for instance, if you have a routine scan of your brain waves, chances are it's going over modem to a place in Tennessee to be evaluated, and not over the internet.
Well, it will be sent over the phone/modem for now. Until some bean-counter realizes that it is cheaper to use the 'net...
This is why Windows should not be used in 24/7 industrial work.
I worked in a factory that used completely unpatched XP (sp1) for everything. Time clocks, CNC control, Quality control records and monitoring... Whenever I had a bad day in production with out of spec parts, I'd just unplug the ethernet cable a little bit, so they wouldn't receive any of my readings (but I could see them). About half an hour later, someone from QA would come by, examine my gauges, and tell me to make SURE I was measuring things properly. At that point, I'd stop measuring, because any parts that were bad would now be QAs fault for not stopping production to fix the gauges. And because I was no longer measuring parts, I could work 2-3x faster, and finish my quota early and go relax in the breakroom.
Why does a box running a CNC machine need internet access?
After I was caught playing solitaire on a CNC lathe (working one summer in a factory), the engineers thought it would be a good idea to network all the windows controlled CNC machines so they could do remote monitoring and updates. They were mechanical engineers, not IT guys... and They didn't bother with any security, and so I could browse their 'mshome' workgroup with read/write access. I always wondered what sorts of havok I could have caused...
I don't know too many power plants, electrical generation facilities, or oil/gas operations that are 100% automated and don't have any people around.
yes, but are there qualified people available to do the adjustments on site? What about those un-manned off shore oil rigs? I bet the engineers were pushing HARD for remote access there..
Imagine if I could go online and check my power consumption against that of my neighbours? Or see the average power usage in a neighbourhood before buying a house in the area? Or being able to do that for any utility?... These should be connected online!
Not to mention the cost savings that come with remote management... I'm happy with anything that keeps the cost of living down.
If you hook up a device to the internet without any firewall protection, you deserve what you get.
We should be glad that people release these 'bugs' openly - I'm sure that this information would have made Mr. Finisterre a lot of money, if he approached the right (wrong?) person. Imagine what would happen with no firewall AND no public notification?
Keeping critical systems offline sounds smart, until you realize that
a) What is critical to you may not be critical to me b) Keeping them offline might make sense for security, but it makes servicing them more difficult, and so more people need to be hired, and so it is more expensive (which is bad, apparently) c) Sometimes, critical systems need to be online, and widespread. For example, if banking wasn't networked, then ATMs wouldn't work. If you had your license suspended, it would take hours to get that information to all the other cops, and you could keep driving without penalty. Also, work-from-home wouldn't 'work', and corporate VPNs would be pointless.
Critical systems *should* be connected to the 'net, so we can have access to them. But, they should also be better protected, and backed up offline.
That's a logical fallacy: affirmation of the consequent. He could get flamed for many reasons, so we can't conclusively say that his posts are flamebait because they drew flames.
"Reading their comments, you just know this is the guy at your local watering hole wearing the nascar hat backwards and having a great time with some light beer. (with some luck, I've just offended a few more people:))) {it's humor people}"
I can't believe how many people get offended with the truth. It is funny, really.
I know, I was saying next gen and then connecting it to the language (and systems) of the article. I happen to think that next-gen is up and coming, current gen is current.
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for instance, if you have a routine scan of your brain waves, chances are it's going over modem to a place in Tennessee to be evaluated, and not over the internet.
Well, it will be sent over the phone/modem for now. Until some bean-counter realizes that it is cheaper to use the 'net...
This is why Windows should not be used in 24/7 industrial work.
I worked in a factory that used completely unpatched XP (sp1) for everything. Time clocks, CNC control, Quality control records and monitoring... Whenever I had a bad day in production with out of spec parts, I'd just unplug the ethernet cable a little bit, so they wouldn't receive any of my readings (but I could see them). About half an hour later, someone from QA would come by, examine my gauges, and tell me to make SURE I was measuring things properly. At that point, I'd stop measuring, because any parts that were bad would now be QAs fault for not stopping production to fix the gauges. And because I was no longer measuring parts, I could work 2-3x faster, and finish my quota early and go relax in the breakroom.
Why does a box running a CNC machine need internet access?
After I was caught playing solitaire on a CNC lathe (working one summer in a factory), the engineers thought it would be a good idea to network all the windows controlled CNC machines so they could do remote monitoring and updates. They were mechanical engineers, not IT guys ... and They didn't bother with any security, and so I could browse their 'mshome' workgroup with read/write access. I always wondered what sorts of havok I could have caused ...
he has a very American-sounding name.
... where do you think most americans came from?
...
... besides mexico
I don't know too many power plants, electrical generation facilities, or oil/gas operations that are 100% automated and don't have any people around.
yes, but are there qualified people available to do the adjustments on site? What about those un-manned off shore oil rigs? I bet the engineers were pushing HARD for remote access there..
That movie had the "Mac guy" so I totally trust it.
that movie had bruce willis, so I totally trust it.
oh, and I love macs.
Imagine if I could go online and check my power consumption against that of my neighbours? Or see the average power usage in a neighbourhood before buying a house in the area? Or being able to do that for any utility? ... These should be connected online!
Not to mention the cost savings that come with remote management... I'm happy with anything that keeps the cost of living down.
If you hook up a device to the internet without any firewall protection, you deserve what you get.
We should be glad that people release these 'bugs' openly - I'm sure that this information would have made Mr. Finisterre a lot of money, if he approached the right (wrong?) person. Imagine what would happen with no firewall AND no public notification?
Keeping critical systems offline sounds smart, until you realize that
a) What is critical to you may not be critical to me
b) Keeping them offline might make sense for security, but it makes servicing them more difficult, and so more people need to be hired, and so it is more expensive (which is bad, apparently)
c) Sometimes, critical systems need to be online, and widespread. For example, if banking wasn't networked, then ATMs wouldn't work. If you had your license suspended, it would take hours to get that information to all the other cops, and you could keep driving without penalty. Also, work-from-home wouldn't 'work', and corporate VPNs would be pointless.
Critical systems *should* be connected to the 'net, so we can have access to them. But, they should also be better protected, and backed up offline.
I wasn't aware that PC gaming needed saving.
At least, not any more than console gaming needed saving...
That's a logical fallacy: affirmation of the consequent. He could get flamed for many reasons, so we can't conclusively say that his posts are flamebait because they drew flames.
...
But we can say that it is very VERY likely
very good point. I'm sure slashdot does alright financially, and to make money ... you usually have to deal with uninformed people...
Dude, he repeats him self. Repeatedly! That should be proof enough for anyone (that he is right).
OMG people don't think I'm as smart as *I* Think I am... and they don't think that my comments are funny/smart/intellegent!!!
the system must be broken!!!
I agree. The disagree mails remind me of how fortunate I am, that idiots like that don't bother me more often.
"Reading their comments, you just know this is the guy at your local watering hole wearing the nascar hat backwards and having a great time with some light beer. (with some luck, I've just offended a few more people :))) {it's humor people}"
I can't believe how many people get offended with the truth. It is funny, really.
And ... if you keep posting long enough, and loud enough, then people will listen.
And believe.
Or add you to their foe list, and never have to read your uninformed dribble ever again.
Clearly, he knows what he is talking about. I mean, he said so THREE TIMES. Come on, would ANYONE repeat themselves THREE times if they weren't right?
... Three times! What an argument! I can't believe that you would even TRY to contest his absolute knowledge, he is clearly correct. clearly!
Really
No doubt about it.
Three times sure.
really.
But does it run linux? And, Imagine all the djangos in a beowulf cluster...
awww, who am I kidding. This is slashdot, I can't sound smart without referencing wikipedia. *siiigh*
Seriously tho, Django is so much better than some of the other options (read:java!)
I know, I was saying next gen and then connecting it to the language (and systems) of the article. I happen to think that next-gen is up and coming, current gen is current.
no no, TFA is all about 'what is up and coming' on the next gen (ps3/x360) and near future (pc) ... for SOFTWARE. *siiigh*
Widespread use of non-standard inputs. You know, like a little wand we could wave around... or a light sabre ... Only, this time, with decent graphics.
Hey, great sound makes a great game - like almost anything nobuo uematsu has added music to..
When we can't learn about the copyright laws because they aren't distributable ... then when will they expect us to comply?
that is only a problem if you insist on buying pants that are too small...