There are plenty of reasons that states will in fact, have legal name changes go through for free. The fact that this isn't true in California is absurd.
Well... yeah. But that's not what I'm arguing. I guess if you want to jump in and make a bunch of crazy claims, then follow it up with some tangentially related statement that is correct doesn't actually mean you're contributing anything worthwhile.... If I were to respond to your criticism in the same way you responded to mine, it would finish with a sentence like the following.
There are plenty of reasons to join a conversation. The fact that some people can't spell is irrelevant if they're not part of the conversation.
FAR more often than that that is absolutely correct. People don't sell used stuff for more than they buy it for. This is particularly true of consumables. Your sarcasm implies that you are the type that consider playing the lottery as an investment.
Yeah, you're right. In a general sense, that's true. No one buys used mcdonalds. Of course, if you're going to present the argument in absurd terms and refuse to acknowledge the facts of the matter, you're going to be correct. Nevermind the fact that most people don't buy new stuff as an investment... see, that wasn't my point. My point was simply that it was possible, and my secondary point was that it was much, MUCH, much, much MUCH more possible and likely to do so in a real-life situation.
I mean, yeah, you're right... but only because you're stating facts in such a way that actually contradicts your original statement. How does that sort of doublespeak work for you in real life? I bet you have no friends.
You'll probably find, somewhere in the signup process, that you agree to waive all yadda yadda yadda or that by posting you're giving permission to slashdot to use your work.
Monkeys and other animals are not legal persons, so copyright authorship would not initially vest in them. In all likelihood, a court would apply a combination of the work for hire and independent contractor doctrines, and copyright would initially vest in the owner of the equipment used to take the photographs. The photographer would have the copyright and the legal right to license the photos.
Also, just a note that since 1989, copyright notice is not required - so don't count on a lack of notice to mean there is no valid copyright!
That's very american of you. Nice explanation, I'm sure all the americans appreciate it. I wonder if you've got an equally valid explanation for, say, the UK. That way your post would be relevant.
I wish you hadn't posted AC. And I wish I could mod you up.
This is probably the most insightful thing I've read on/. today. Then again, I've been busy arguing with right-wing fascists about the travesty that is the USA.
the civilized world is not a country. It's a part of the world. The part that is civilized.
On a second look, I notice that I had asked the question less than clearly, and I apologize for this. I gather that the country in which you live is part of the civilized world, and the United States of America is not. So please allow me to rephrase: In which country do you live?
Doesn't make any difference at all to the argument, does it. You're just looking to pick a fight. Rather than changing the subject and disproving my country as part of the civilized world (which I never claimed it to be), try disproving the allegation against your own country.
Typically, like most americans (yes, that's the definition of the word typically), you're more interested in proving others wrong than in proving yourself right. According to most americans, proof that the other party is wrong is proof that your side is right. For example : If you can prove that the democrats are weiners (or immoral, or terrible at governance), then BY DEFAULT, the other option is not. It's a terribly flawed style of argumentation, but it is so pervasive it makes me sick.
Except, like I had commented earlier, it assumes you have the money. Not worrying about charges of that level must be nice, but there are plenty of people who/don't/ have the money to get the legal documentation.
In which case, why are they kvetching about needing a name change? Sounds like a rich-white-man-problem. See, not having enough to eat is a problem. Not having a safe place to live is a problem. Short of being named "Adolph Hitler" or "Seymore Butz", the desire to be addressed by a different name does *not* equate to the right to be addressed by a different name, and is *NOT* a problem.
You want to change your name? Fine. There's paperwork to do that. But don't expect it to be processed for free.
I'm guessing that any claims to copyright will be made over processing done to the photo prior to publication and, perhaps any setup done to the camera before they monkeys started monkeying around. After all, it's hard to get photos that good by pure chance.
Well in that case, I've processed your contribution to slashdot and, by my mere presence, set up the need for the forums (and thus the forums themselves), which is the vehicle through which your thoughts were made reality. As can be seen by the pure number of posts, quality contributions don't happen often, or by chance.
So with my far-fetched but wordy explanation, I demand that slashdot pay me millions of dollars for reproducing MY WORK, even if my work was based on your work... you're not suing, so I'd better.
First the world news scandal, now this. Silly brits.
Of course it wasn't a DMCA takedown notice, the Daily Mail is based in the UK.
Doesn't mean they can't send one, from the states. For example : I am canadian, but I don't like what is being done elsewhere on the web. I can send a DCMA takedown notice, and it will be noticed, especially if the other party is in the states. Not enforceable in Canada... doesn't mean I can't fire one off.
The only NES ROMs I can think of that have more or less exact ports on the Super NES are the games in Super Mario All-Stars (Super Mario Bros, both SMB2s, SMB3) and a few multi-platform block puzzle games (such as Tetris and Dr. Mario). Or by ports did you mean to include sequels?
I am going to take your vast knowledge of NES -> SNES videogame ports and make a completely unsubstantiated claim that it is proof positive that your lack of intelligence in other areas (such as rhetoric!) is a direct cause of video games themselves!
It's proof that a) You're an idiot, able to understand what I've said (by elaborating on my previous comments in a manner that indicates understanding) while simultaneously claiming NOT to understand and b) that you don't have the brain power to hold a though from one conversation thread to another - the civilized world is not a country. It's a part of the world. The part that is civilized.
So tell me, what is it like to be completely independent from responsibility because of choices that your parents have made? I mean, you can't hold an idiot accountable, and you probably wouldn't be so stupid if your mother didn't drink while pregnant. (Yeah, I'm done arguing with idiots. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience).
But hey, next time you post? You'll have a better chance of getting a good answer if you ask someone to explain the big words to you before responding.
Well, you got as far as naming the economists. And then you vaguely suggested that if I went away and read up on the subject I'd probably find something somewhere that supported your point.
You're right! I should have linked you to the theory that I was talking about. Oh wait. I did.
Moron. Probably also republican, since one is a subset of the other...
Actulally, you've offered precious little but ad-hominems for the last three posts, so it's not exactly "moving on" in any widely recognised sense of the word.
Yes, you figured that out on your own? Good for you. Now I shall mock your spelling, and the fact that you didn't realize I was repeating back to you the attacks you were making. I'd suggest you re-read the previous posts, but I've already come to the conclusion (based on stellar evidence and the scientific method!) that you're unable to read, but strangely unable to write. Perhaps you should continue, so I can calculate a confidence value for my results.
About that. How well do you think it's working for you, right now?
Well, about as well as it's been working for you. See my previous comment.
First sensible thing you've said in four posts. Let's leave it there, before things degenerate any further.
You're right. Because I stopped actually arguing for my position when it because clear you weren't listening. I just kept mocking you. See my 2nd (and 3rd) comment in this post.
If software patents cannot be worked around within the United States, the only remaining option is to leave the United States. Have you any tips for United States citizens on qualifying for a job (and hence a work visa) in what you appear to call "the civilized world"?
Heh, couldn't string two thoughts together into a single post? Or did this brilliant response come to you after you'd hit the submit button?
But no, I have no advice for you getting out of the states. I'm happy with you living down there, making car parts and working at mcdonalds and paying a disproportionate amount of tax so that big corporations can get huge tax breaks and exploit everyone not intelligent enough to get an education, some decent skills and leave.
... but if you were able to figure out I was mocking the USA when I spoke of the civilized world, it leads me to believe that you're only acting stupid. That's not an exploitable skill, unless you're carrot-top or dane cook.
The thing I've already purchased is an NES Game Pak. I can make use of it by format-shifting the program on the Game Pak using a cartridge reader. Which cartridge reader do you recommend?
If you're unable to read the other response I've posted to this same question (asked by you, in another thread) then you don't deserve an answer.
So how do I work around it without going into cryogenic stasis for 20 years while the patents expire?
What a stupid question. Why not ask "How do I get around this annoying law-of-physics" or "How do I become badass like keanu reeves?". You're not capable of doing either, because you don't realistically have the power to do any of that. It's out of your reach, and complaining and whining isn't going to help. Neither is voting in right-wing, crazy-ass, uninformed politicians. Which you americans seem to do every 8-12 years...
Um.. plenty of people conduct business in a made up name. Authors, actors, people in marketing rely on having an easy to remember and easy to pronounce name for their business.
Oh. So having a name for a business is the same thing as a personal name change. I stand corrected.
God, some people are so american. Then again, corporations in the USA have the same legal rights as people, as strange as that may sound. Not that it makes *any* sense, but there you have it.
Not really. It is just as unlikely that someone who has model trains as a hobby will make money from the trains as it is that someone with a MMO as a hobby will make money from the MMO. 99 out of 100 hobbies are only an investment in entertainment. Often entertainment through long boring tasks.
You're telling me that there isn't an active secondary market for model trains? Or are you saying that people who engage in the secondary model train markets don't make any money?
Or are you telling me that your completely unsubstantiated and easily disproved opinion is right, even when it's wrong. If that's the case, I understand what you're trying to do. If it isn't... I honestly can't understand why you're clinging to an idea that is so easily disproved. Brain damage? Ideological differences? American passport? Fox news?
But how do you copy your old NES cartridges onto your PSP? Should one buy an NES and solder in the "CopyNES" expansion board?
I'm confused - are you trying to ask me how I'm running my games on my PSP (easy answer : CFW) or how I've acquired my roms (again easy : I bought a cart reader years ago)?
I thought it was clear that I meant the latter: where one would buy a reader for NES cartridges.
Oh. To be honest, I wouldn't know. There are only 2 or 3 NES games I play regularly... and they've all been ported to the SNES, and I play them off those roms.
Still, if you *need* NES roms, why not just download them? Assuming you've purchased the cartridge, there isn't anything illegal about that. At least, not in the civilized world...
Making commercial law more uniform was a core aspect of the 3 radical overhauls of US national legal identity: the Revolution, the Constitution, and the Civil War.
You do realize that the driving push for the settlement of america was a radical overhaul in commercial law as related to personal legal identity?
You know that the main reason for the introduction of the printing press was a radical overhaul of commercial law?
You know that the war in iraq (both of them) were fundamentally based on commercial law?
When I do want a touch of it, I turn to my PSP and emulate some old-school NES/SNES action.
I understand about Super NES; some people were lucky enough to buy a Retrode cart reader when it was available. But how do you copy your old NES cartridges onto your PSP? Should one buy an NES and solder in the "CopyNES" expansion board?
It must be terrible to live in a country with such draconian laws against regular use of things you've already purchased. I'd hate to live somewhere that had laws that meant I didn't really own things that I had purchased.
Like it or not, Indiana and Michigan and Alaska and Texas are not different countries
I am aware that Indiana and Michigan and Alaska and Texas are not different countries. But as I understand it, if I do no willful business in Texas, the district courts of Texas lack personal jurisdiction, and I can have the suit moved to a different venue whose juries don't always find in favor of a patent holder.
Well, I am not a lawyer, but as I understand it, you're wrong. Well, mostly. It's a lot more complicated than you're making it out to be... so, I guess you're technically right - but in practice, absolutely wrong.
Good point. Which publishers sell emulated NES games over PSN?
Sorry, sell? You mean, you're asking me who I've purchased the games from?... If I remember correctly, I got them at canadian tire. I'm confused - are you trying to ask me how I'm running my games on my PSP (easy answer : CFW) or how I've acquired my roms (again easy : I bought a cart reader years ago)?
Or are you subtly asking me why I'm doing illegal things with hardware I've purchased (hint: It's not illegal)?
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There are plenty of reasons that states will in fact, have legal name changes go through for free. The fact that this isn't true in California is absurd.
Well ... yeah. But that's not what I'm arguing. I guess if you want to jump in and make a bunch of crazy claims, then follow it up with some tangentially related statement that is correct doesn't actually mean you're contributing anything worthwhile.... If I were to respond to your criticism in the same way you responded to mine, it would finish with a sentence like the following.
There are plenty of reasons to join a conversation. The fact that some people can't spell is irrelevant if they're not part of the conversation.
FAR more often than that that is absolutely correct. People don't sell used stuff for more than they buy it for. This is particularly true of consumables. Your sarcasm implies that you are the type that consider playing the lottery as an investment.
Yeah, you're right. In a general sense, that's true. No one buys used mcdonalds. Of course, if you're going to present the argument in absurd terms and refuse to acknowledge the facts of the matter, you're going to be correct. Nevermind the fact that most people don't buy new stuff as an investment ... see, that wasn't my point. My point was simply that it was possible, and my secondary point was that it was much, MUCH, much, much MUCH more possible and likely to do so in a real-life situation.
I mean, yeah, you're right... but only because you're stating facts in such a way that actually contradicts your original statement. How does that sort of doublespeak work for you in real life? I bet you have no friends.
You personal attacks are ironic given that the used train market is not going to generally be selling used trains for MORE than what they cost new
Yeah, you're right. No one is going to buy something old for more than it was purchased new.
Apparently you have battled too much with the monsters and stared too long into the abyss.
2nd most insightful post today!
You'll probably find, somewhere in the signup process, that you agree to waive all yadda yadda yadda or that by posting you're giving permission to slashdot to use your work.
Oh, and it's "News of the World". Silly you.
Damnit! Foiled by the non-enforceable EULA again.
Monkeys and other animals are not legal persons, so copyright authorship would not initially vest in them. In all likelihood, a court would apply a combination of the work for hire and independent contractor doctrines, and copyright would initially vest in the owner of the equipment used to take the photographs. The photographer would have the copyright and the legal right to license the photos. Also, just a note that since 1989, copyright notice is not required - so don't count on a lack of notice to mean there is no valid copyright!
That's very american of you. Nice explanation, I'm sure all the americans appreciate it. I wonder if you've got an equally valid explanation for, say, the UK. That way your post would be relevant.
I wish you hadn't posted AC. And I wish I could mod you up.
/. today. Then again, I've been busy arguing with right-wing fascists about the travesty that is the USA.
This is probably the most insightful thing I've read on
the civilized world is not a country. It's a part of the world. The part that is civilized.
On a second look, I notice that I had asked the question less than clearly, and I apologize for this. I gather that the country in which you live is part of the civilized world, and the United States of America is not. So please allow me to rephrase: In which country do you live?
Doesn't make any difference at all to the argument, does it. You're just looking to pick a fight. Rather than changing the subject and disproving my country as part of the civilized world (which I never claimed it to be), try disproving the allegation against your own country.
Typically, like most americans (yes, that's the definition of the word typically), you're more interested in proving others wrong than in proving yourself right. According to most americans, proof that the other party is wrong is proof that your side is right. For example : If you can prove that the democrats are weiners (or immoral, or terrible at governance), then BY DEFAULT, the other option is not. It's a terribly flawed style of argumentation, but it is so pervasive it makes me sick.
Except, like I had commented earlier, it assumes you have the money. Not worrying about charges of that level must be nice, but there are plenty of people who /don't/ have the money to get the legal documentation.
In which case, why are they kvetching about needing a name change? Sounds like a rich-white-man-problem. See, not having enough to eat is a problem. Not having a safe place to live is a problem. Short of being named "Adolph Hitler" or "Seymore Butz", the desire to be addressed by a different name does *not* equate to the right to be addressed by a different name, and is *NOT* a problem.
You want to change your name? Fine. There's paperwork to do that. But don't expect it to be processed for free.
[citation needed]
The OP is clearly american, and americans are under the belief that their words and actions are law and always right.
[citation needed]
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I'm guessing that any claims to copyright will be made over processing done to the photo prior to publication and, perhaps any setup done to the camera before they monkeys started monkeying around. After all, it's hard to get photos that good by pure chance.
Well in that case, I've processed your contribution to slashdot and, by my mere presence, set up the need for the forums (and thus the forums themselves), which is the vehicle through which your thoughts were made reality. As can be seen by the pure number of posts, quality contributions don't happen often, or by chance.
So with my far-fetched but wordy explanation, I demand that slashdot pay me millions of dollars for reproducing MY WORK, even if my work was based on your work... you're not suing, so I'd better.
First the world news scandal, now this. Silly brits.
[citation needed]
Pffft. Who needs citations. The OP is clearly american, and americans are under the belief that their words and actions are law and always right.
Of course it wasn't a DMCA takedown notice, the Daily Mail is based in the UK.
Doesn't mean they can't send one, from the states. For example : I am canadian, but I don't like what is being done elsewhere on the web. I can send a DCMA takedown notice, and it will be noticed, especially if the other party is in the states. Not enforceable in Canada ... doesn't mean I can't fire one off.
The only NES ROMs I can think of that have more or less exact ports on the Super NES are the games in Super Mario All-Stars (Super Mario Bros, both SMB2s, SMB3) and a few multi-platform block puzzle games (such as Tetris and Dr. Mario). Or by ports did you mean to include sequels?
I am going to take your vast knowledge of NES -> SNES videogame ports and make a completely unsubstantiated claim that it is proof positive that your lack of intelligence in other areas (such as rhetoric!) is a direct cause of video games themselves!
It's proof that a) You're an idiot, able to understand what I've said (by elaborating on my previous comments in a manner that indicates understanding) while simultaneously claiming NOT to understand and b) that you don't have the brain power to hold a though from one conversation thread to another - the civilized world is not a country. It's a part of the world. The part that is civilized.
So tell me, what is it like to be completely independent from responsibility because of choices that your parents have made? I mean, you can't hold an idiot accountable, and you probably wouldn't be so stupid if your mother didn't drink while pregnant. (Yeah, I'm done arguing with idiots. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience).
But hey, next time you post? You'll have a better chance of getting a good answer if you ask someone to explain the big words to you before responding.
Well, you got as far as naming the economists. And then you vaguely suggested that if I went away and read up on the subject I'd probably find something somewhere that supported your point.
You're right! I should have linked you to the theory that I was talking about. Oh wait. I did.
Moron. Probably also republican, since one is a subset of the other...
Actulally, you've offered precious little but ad-hominems for the last three posts, so it's not exactly "moving on" in any widely recognised sense of the word.
Yes, you figured that out on your own? Good for you. Now I shall mock your spelling, and the fact that you didn't realize I was repeating back to you the attacks you were making. I'd suggest you re-read the previous posts, but I've already come to the conclusion (based on stellar evidence and the scientific method!) that you're unable to read, but strangely unable to write. Perhaps you should continue, so I can calculate a confidence value for my results.
About that. How well do you think it's working for you, right now?
Well, about as well as it's been working for you. See my previous comment.
First sensible thing you've said in four posts. Let's leave it there, before things degenerate any further.
You're right. Because I stopped actually arguing for my position when it because clear you weren't listening. I just kept mocking you. See my 2nd (and 3rd) comment in this post.
If software patents cannot be worked around within the United States, the only remaining option is to leave the United States. Have you any tips for United States citizens on qualifying for a job (and hence a work visa) in what you appear to call "the civilized world"?
Heh, couldn't string two thoughts together into a single post? Or did this brilliant response come to you after you'd hit the submit button?
But no, I have no advice for you getting out of the states. I'm happy with you living down there, making car parts and working at mcdonalds and paying a disproportionate amount of tax so that big corporations can get huge tax breaks and exploit everyone not intelligent enough to get an education, some decent skills and leave.
... but if you were able to figure out I was mocking the USA when I spoke of the civilized world, it leads me to believe that you're only acting stupid. That's not an exploitable skill, unless you're carrot-top or dane cook.
The thing I've already purchased is an NES Game Pak. I can make use of it by format-shifting the program on the Game Pak using a cartridge reader. Which cartridge reader do you recommend?
If you're unable to read the other response I've posted to this same question (asked by you, in another thread) then you don't deserve an answer.
So how do I work around it without going into cryogenic stasis for 20 years while the patents expire?
What a stupid question. Why not ask "How do I get around this annoying law-of-physics" or "How do I become badass like keanu reeves?". You're not capable of doing either, because you don't realistically have the power to do any of that. It's out of your reach, and complaining and whining isn't going to help. Neither is voting in right-wing, crazy-ass, uninformed politicians. Which you americans seem to do every 8-12 years...
Um.. plenty of people conduct business in a made up name. Authors, actors, people in marketing rely on having an easy to remember and easy to pronounce name for their business.
Oh. So having a name for a business is the same thing as a personal name change. I stand corrected.
God, some people are so american. Then again, corporations in the USA have the same legal rights as people, as strange as that may sound. Not that it makes *any* sense, but there you have it.
Not really. It is just as unlikely that someone who has model trains as a hobby will make money from the trains as it is that someone with a MMO as a hobby will make money from the MMO. 99 out of 100 hobbies are only an investment in entertainment. Often entertainment through long boring tasks.
You're telling me that there isn't an active secondary market for model trains? Or are you saying that people who engage in the secondary model train markets don't make any money?
Or are you telling me that your completely unsubstantiated and easily disproved opinion is right, even when it's wrong. If that's the case, I understand what you're trying to do. If it isn't... I honestly can't understand why you're clinging to an idea that is so easily disproved. Brain damage? Ideological differences? American passport? Fox news?
But how do you copy your old NES cartridges onto your PSP? Should one buy an NES and solder in the "CopyNES" expansion board?
I'm confused - are you trying to ask me how I'm running my games on my PSP (easy answer : CFW) or how I've acquired my roms (again easy : I bought a cart reader years ago)?
I thought it was clear that I meant the latter: where one would buy a reader for NES cartridges.
Oh. To be honest, I wouldn't know. There are only 2 or 3 NES games I play regularly ... and they've all been ported to the SNES, and I play them off those roms.
Still, if you *need* NES roms, why not just download them? Assuming you've purchased the cartridge, there isn't anything illegal about that. At least, not in the civilized world...
Making commercial law more uniform was a core aspect of the 3 radical overhauls of US national legal identity: the Revolution, the Constitution, and the Civil War.
You do realize that the driving push for the settlement of america was a radical overhaul in commercial law as related to personal legal identity?
... oversimplifying much?
You know that the main reason for the introduction of the printing press was a radical overhaul of commercial law?
You know that the war in iraq (both of them) were fundamentally based on commercial law?
gawd
When I do want a touch of it, I turn to my PSP and emulate some old-school NES/SNES action.
I understand about Super NES; some people were lucky enough to buy a Retrode cart reader when it was available. But how do you copy your old NES cartridges onto your PSP? Should one buy an NES and solder in the "CopyNES" expansion board?
It must be terrible to live in a country with such draconian laws against regular use of things you've already purchased. I'd hate to live somewhere that had laws that meant I didn't really own things that I had purchased.
Like it or not, Indiana and Michigan and Alaska and Texas are not different countries
I am aware that Indiana and Michigan and Alaska and Texas are not different countries. But as I understand it, if I do no willful business in Texas, the district courts of Texas lack personal jurisdiction, and I can have the suit moved to a different venue whose juries don't always find in favor of a patent holder.
Well, I am not a lawyer, but as I understand it, you're wrong. Well, mostly. It's a lot more complicated than you're making it out to be... so, I guess you're technically right - but in practice, absolutely wrong.
You download the games instead
Good point. Which publishers sell emulated NES games over PSN?
Sorry, sell? You mean, you're asking me who I've purchased the games from? ... If I remember correctly, I got them at canadian tire. I'm confused - are you trying to ask me how I'm running my games on my PSP (easy answer : CFW) or how I've acquired my roms (again easy : I bought a cart reader years ago)?
Or are you subtly asking me why I'm doing illegal things with hardware I've purchased (hint: It's not illegal)?