There was some nasty NFS glitch n RC2, which led to RC3.
- Hubert
been there yesterday: GPL author violated BSD (c)
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Open Source Licensing
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Even if no money is involved, dealing with legal stuff is annoying. I had the experience a few days ago when someone took code from me that's under a BSD license, removed my name & license and put everything under GPL.
yeah, emerge... I can install cygwin on Windows too to get a decent (well) environment, but I prefer a useful default installation, which Gentoo didn't provide for me. NetBSD (and probably every other BSD) does.
I've done the stage 3(?) installation where one doesn't compile anything. What I ended up with a system that had no vi (or similar), no inetd, no finger, no telnet - none of the many tools that make Unix systems just the fine place one wants t live at. And worst of all it came with an editor that broke lines of/etc/fstab without mentioning - lots of fun for novice users trying to find out why their fstab is busted.
Oh, and/etc/rc.d (or was it init.d? Seems everyone's disagreeing there in Linux land!) scripts that you can't run via/bin/sh. Very intuitive!
The BSD of Linux? No, please don't drag it where it doesn't belong. I prefer NetBSD every day to Gentoo!
(As a word on the good side, the "portage" system seems to work quite well; and "emerge vi" gives a real vi, no vim)
POSIX is not a single specification, but consists of quite a number of parts. While some of the basic interfaces can be considered of widespread use, I wouldn't recommend using others like realtime handling or maybe even threads.
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Another view on "BSD Hacks"
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BSD Hacks
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Being a long term NetBSD user, I'm not too thrilled by the mixture of contents in the book. See my
NetBSD blog entry for a few more details.
hundreds _more_?! Wow, sounds pretty impressive. One of these days I think I should make a "g4u testemonials" page... care to drop me a mail which describes what you do with g4u? (see the g4u homepage for my email address:-).
Check out g4u for deploying your render machines - it's a image based disk cloning tool that uses DHCP and FTP and which doesn't care what you run on your clients. (g4u itself is based on NetBSD, but that doesn't matter for the application).
Try giving your query at http://portal.acm.org/, they return quite a bunch of articles, dunno how many of them are relevant. Download of article text may cost, though...
here are a few links from my collection on the topic:
+ vmware + bochs + vax with simh-vax, see
http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/vax/emulator-howto.htm l + xen
(http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/) + LilyVM
(http://lilyvm.sourceforge.net/index.ja.html) + mips64emul
(http://www.mdstud.chalmers.se/~md1gavan/mips64emu l/), + dosbox (http://dosbox.sf.net)
I'm mostly interested with running non-Linux (e.g. NetBSD, Solaris) in a virtual environment for using it in my "Virtual Unix Lab" training environment, see http://www.feyrer.de/vulab/).
NetBSD/x68k is the port of NetBSD for the Japanese personal computer SHARP X68000/X68030 series. It runs on some models of X680x0 with MMU and FPU. NetBSD is a free, secure, and highly portable UNIX/Linux-like Open Source operating system available for many platforms, from 64-bit AlphaServers and desktop systems to handheld and embedded devices. Its clean design and advanced features make it excellent in both production and research environments, and it is user-supported with complete source. Many applications are easily available through The NetBSD Packages Collection.
Check out g4u at www.feyrer.de/g4u/ which we use for deploying pre-configured linux harddisk images to various machines (also works fine for windows, solaris, netbsd,...)
After all the tools were taken from NetBSD (looking at the bottom of that web page), I wonder how hard it would be to adopt this to end up with NetBSD on the disk?:)
I've written some extensive docs in texinfo and moved it rather easily to pdf, html and plain text.
I've tried doing the same for docbook and it plain sucked. While the DocBook format itself is nice, the tools for transforming are too complex (for me?), esp. if you want to customize conversion to HTML or PDF. This definitely goes for DocBook/SGML, and by what I've seen so far DocBook/XML too to some extend.
Thus I'd rather say "texinfo", at least unless someone comes up with a foolproofed suite of tools for DocBook->PDF+HTML.
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There was some nasty NFS glitch n RC2, which led to RC3.
- Hubert
Read the full story at my web page, http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/g4l.html.
- Hubert
yeah, emerge ... I can install cygwin on Windows too to get a decent (well) environment, but I prefer a useful default installation, which Gentoo didn't provide for me. NetBSD (and probably every other BSD) does.
- Hubert
I've done the stage 3(?) installation where one doesn't compile anything. What I ended up with a system that had no vi (or similar), no inetd, no finger, no telnet - none of the many tools that make Unix systems just the fine place one wants t live at. And worst of all it came with an editor that broke lines of /etc/fstab without mentioning - lots of fun for novice users trying to find out why their fstab is busted.
/etc/rc.d (or was it init.d? Seems everyone's disagreeing there in Linux land!) scripts that you can't run via /bin/sh. Very intuitive!
Oh, and
The BSD of Linux? No, please don't drag it where it doesn't belong. I prefer NetBSD every day to Gentoo!
(As a word on the good side, the "portage" system seems to work quite well; and "emerge vi" gives a real vi, no vim)
- Hubert
Ship me 1-2 of those G5s, and I'll port g4u to Mac.
- Hubert (author of g4u)
POSIX is not a single specification, but consists of quite a number of parts. While some of the basic interfaces can be considered of widespread use, I wouldn't recommend using others like realtime handling or maybe even threads.
- Hubert
- Hubert
... to NetBSD.
Bread from the bakery,
meat from the butcher,
and multiplatform operating systems from The NetBSD Foundation.
- Hubert
BTW, if you have a spare dual opteron with heaps of RAM, I'd love to make it my new g4u development machine. Anyone? :-)
- Hubert
hundreds _more_?! Wow, sounds pretty impressive. :-).
One of these days I think I should make a "g4u testemonials" page... care to drop me a mail which describes what you do with g4u? (see the g4u homepage for my email address
- Hubert
Check out g4u for deploying your render machines - it's a image based disk cloning tool that uses DHCP and FTP and which doesn't care what you run on your clients. (g4u itself is based on NetBSD, but that doesn't matter for the application).
I've used g4u to setup a ~50 node video rendering cluster, see my webpage on the Regensburg Marathon Cluster.
Enjoy!
- Hubert
Try giving your query at http://portal.acm.org/, they return quite a bunch of articles, dunno how many of them are relevant. Download of article text may cost, though...
- Hubert
here are a few links from my collection on the topic:
m l u l/),
+ vmware
+ bochs
+ vax with simh-vax, see
http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/vax/emulator-howto.ht
+ xen
(http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/)
+ LilyVM
(http://lilyvm.sourceforge.net/index.ja.html)
+ mips64emul
(http://www.mdstud.chalmers.se/~md1gavan/mips64em
+ dosbox (http://dosbox.sf.net)
I'm mostly interested with running non-Linux (e.g. NetBSD, Solaris) in a virtual environment for using it in my "Virtual Unix Lab" training environment, see http://www.feyrer.de/vulab/).
- Hubert
We're still sorting the >400 submissions out. Sorry for the delay, we hope to get to the final state of the logo finding soon.
- Hubert
NetBSD - we just don't make a hype out of it.
NetBSD - secure OF COURSE!
- Hubert
Of course there's a port of NetBSD to the X68000 platform.
NetBSD/x68k is the port of NetBSD for the Japanese personal computer SHARP X68000/X68030 series. It runs on some models of X680x0 with MMU and FPU. NetBSD is a free, secure, and highly portable UNIX/Linux-like Open Source operating system available for many platforms, from 64-bit AlphaServers and desktop systems to handheld and embedded devices. Its clean design and advanced features make it excellent in both production and research environments, and it is user-supported with complete source. Many applications are easily available through The NetBSD Packages Collection.
So you say that nmap (maintainers) is as bad as SCO? Wow.
- Hubert
So with a restriction like "may no longer be distributes with ", is it still "free software"?
I wouldn't say so.
- Hubert
Check out g4u at www.feyrer.de/g4u/ which we use for deploying pre-configured linux harddisk images to various machines (also works fine for windows, solaris, netbsd, ...)
- Hubert
cost me my last job, in addition to building up a coworker to back me up in case of emergency.
No sh*t!
- Hubert
After all the tools were taken from NetBSD (looking at the bottom of that web page), I wonder how hard it would be to adopt this to end up with NetBSD on the disk? :)
- Hubert
It would be nice to have the source for this, so that users of other Open Source operating system can make use of their cards too...
- Hubert
Check out the Networked Computer Science Technical Reference Library.
- Hubert
Here's a
list of 3rd Party Software that can be installed on OpenBSD via pkgsrc.
- Hubert
I've written some extensive docs in texinfo and moved it rather easily to pdf, html and plain text.
I've tried doing the same for docbook and it plain sucked. While the DocBook format itself is nice, the tools for transforming are too complex (for me?), esp. if you want to customize conversion to HTML or PDF. This definitely goes for DocBook/SGML, and by what I've seen so far DocBook/XML too to some extend.
Thus I'd rather say "texinfo", at least unless someone comes up with a foolproofed suite of tools for DocBook->PDF+HTML.
My $0.02.
- Hubert