if the Internet allows every schmoe to declare themselves a presidential candidate,
will it help the political process?
Um...the internet doesn't allow every schmoe to declare themselves a presidential candidate...the constitution does. Remember, if you're over 35 and were born in the USA - you, too, can run for president.
but then again, one needs to remember that the american public doesn't technically pick the president. The electoral college does. Lucky for us...they've gone along with the popular vote every time...well, most of the time.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Well for the most part people have spent decades making the job of a sysadmin almost anything that I could do just
running my own debian box from a modem and that unix class I took at the university.
lmfao...[insert part B of my last comment here]
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
A) Please try to add a bit of HTML formatting to your comments, they are pretty difficult to get through as they are now.
B) It always makes me laugh when people make light of what sysads do. Trust me, your comment only serves to ensure readers that you truly have no understanding of what we sysads do.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
It always annoys me when something like this happens. I'm glad to see that the gub'ment has allowed the RBHL to do what it needs to do.
this isn't denying anyone from sending spam...it's just saying "hey, you may wanna take note of these guys"
just the same as the usenet death sentancing that's going on....It's not law, or anyone fscking anyone over. It's just a respected group keeping a database of known evil-doers. Am i the only one who can't believe the gub'ment actually made a correct decision on this one?
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Yes, the first thing i did upon seeing this article was visit the imdb. but you obviously didn't even bother to read the full two sentances of my comment.
oh, and congratulations, you learned how to cut and paste
tomorrow we'll cover editing your own text.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
personally, i don't understand why cardboard boxes have been around for so long. I figure, if you order a washer/dryer combo from a store, the cardboard you purchase it in should be able to unpack the washer/dryer combo for you, set it all up, and do a complimentary load of laundry.
my not-so-serious point is that tarballs and zips are the cardboard boxes of the computer world. They're meant to do one specific task, and they do it well. No one can say the tar command isn't pretty robust. But basically, do you care about the packaging something comes in? I sure as shit don't. I care what's in it. - *nix, generally being more hacker oriented has always had a do it yourself attitude. Personally, i don't want to see a single file that extracts, runs, and does your dishes all at the same time...that's just not what i switched up for.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i think one of the thought processes that believers get snagged on is the idea that, since science doesn't have all the answers yet, God must be the only possible answer...
ironic being that it is widely theorized that god was invented by man to explain that which he could not. For the vast majority i can't tell you what the right answer is...but most rational people (read: Sagan) have ruled out God as an acceptable answer.
as for the inherent order in the universe, or, perhaps the "unmoved mover" theory suggested by most when the concept of the big bang is suggested, these arguments are sort of "can you explain them with your scientific method? no??? well then...it must be god!" - personally, i just think science isn't NEARLY that far yet. The answers to these questions, just like all others, will be answered in time.
one funny thing about the bible is how it doesn't mention dinosaurs, or, for that matter, any creatures that existed millions of years before humans walked the planet. Doesn't it strike you as weird that none of this is explained? What about the fact that, if you play by the bible's rules, the earth is only 6,000 years old?
Basically, according to the bible, if it didn't happen during the time the bible was written, it doesn't exist on the bible's terms. No airplanes, no cars, no dinosaurs. What about austrelophithicus? lucy? - we can say with an incredible amount of certainty that humans did evolve (not from apes) from a common ancestor of apes. Science can't explain the fundamental questions raised about life, etc....but it can sure as shit answer alot more questions than the bible can.
i'm sorry that you don't accept the creation of life from proteins and amino acids. But it's pretty much a fact. What about the gay gene? If humans were created, as they are today, by god about six thousand years ago...then the gene for homosexuality was most obviously placed in humans by god. Kinda weird when you think about the fact that a christian/jewish god tells us homosexuality is wrong. - they've already found a specific governing gene for homosexuality in fruit flies. God has to have created fruit flies...well...he created gay fruit flies too...not a choice. Genetics. - God seems to provide a really jacked up explanation in this instance.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Would you care to suggest what "services" an artist/writer could provide as an alternative to the current model?
i've never been much for digital authorship. So i can't say that i'm a fan of digital books. That being said, the main difference between a musician and an author is that an author can't go on tour duplicating his works in a 2 hour show. Salenger can't travel the globe rewriting Catcher in the Rye for huge audiences. Musicians can...guess what...that's originally what they were payed for;-)
Authors can, however, travel the globe giving readings and such (i always enjoy seeing Terry Brooks). They get paid for that (quite a bit more than i do). Also, the system of buying books has been around SIGNIFIGANTLY longer than buying recorded music. I don't propose to know the specifics of handling authorship as well, but let me say i will always go down to the Tattered Cover and buy books. A) to read, and B) to support the authors who wrote them. But hey, if you're Daniel Steele, i'm not sure you deserve to get paid for the crap you put out;-)
You're paying for the right to listen to it. That's all. That's how IP works - without an explicit contract assigning copyright to you, all you can do
legally is read/listen/use that material - you can't redistribute it.
what about a place like Recycle Records here in Denver? I can go up to them, and sell my CD to them for, say $6. I can also buy CD's that other people have sold to them. The artists aren't making any money off these transactions. If all i'm doing is paying for a "site license" for my music, why am i allowed this particular courtesy?
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
We could go at that all week. You say, "Prove to me that God exists." I say "Prove to me that he does not." Stalemate.
ouch. i just want to point out that, while the rest of your arguments are very interesting and insightful, this one is REALLY poor. And what's more...i've heard it from just about every "believer" i've ever argued the point of god with.
what's wrong with it? The burden of proof lies solely on you "believers." - you can't say that something is fact and then tell people to try to disprove it. I'm sorry, but in a rational world, that's not the way things work.
but then again, that's the best part about the theory of God...it CAN'T be disproven. It's just not possible because of the catchall that "god is omnipotent and omnicient" and better yet, "the lord works in mysterious ways." - so it's really hip because you can't disprove it. If i were to come up with something that damn near disproved the existance of God....people get to use their catchall. how do you explain suffering in the world "the devil...and the lord works in mysterious ways" - how do you explain such and so? "the lord works in mysterious ways." It's great. you literally CAN'T say with %100 certainty that there is no god. But it's still up to the believers to PROVE that he exists. Why hasn't god done that yet? Just come down and smacked all non-believers upside the head? I never got that one.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
just to clarify (i won't flame you since the others did a good job of that)
I hate liberals. I hate conservatives. I hate libertarians and communists. If you belong to a party, or align yourself with a political party...i hate you.
I smoke about a pack a day of Kamel Red Lights. I drink, sometimes heavily, sometimes a glass of wine with a nice meal. I smoke marijuana. Why? Because it makes me feel good. No other reason. I just like the way i feel after a bowl. And while i'm smoking weed...i'm not babysitting your kids, or trying to drive an 18 wheeler, or give your wife oral pleasure for another quarter sack. so shut the fuck up and quit implying that i'm a loser or a criminal.
That meal i just enjoyed a glass of wine with....it's always best if it's a big 16oz ribeye or a T-bone aged to perfection....so juicy and tender you can cut it with a fork.
In conclusion...kiss my ass you whiney little intolerant republican.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Don't you feel at least a little hypocritical putting both of these sentences together in the same post?
Certainly not. Redistributing valid credit card numbers is the same as handing someone a checkbook and saying "have at it." That is theft in the basic sense that that credit card is going to be used to steal money from someone that already has it.
When you talk about ripping a song to mp3 and then redistributing it, you're talking about intellectual property...a concept that is, basically, dumb. Are you paying for that CD, the right to do with it as you wish? Are you paying for the right to listen to that CD? Does the CD actually belong to you in that instance? What if i were to give that CD to a friend? what then? Everything get's convoluded with IP...and it's just crap. Pay the artist for a service, not for an idea.
Your argument stems from the fact that you think IP is a valid way to play the game. I don't - that keeps my post from being the least bit hypocritical. If you honestly think that stealing a credit card and using napster are anywhere NEAR the same thing then please, don't respond to this post....the argument is pointless.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
redistributing credit card numbers == redistribution of stolen goods.
Distribution of WPP is probably illegal in that you're going to get people killed. That's not protected under free speech for much the same reason as inciting a riot or saying that you're going to kill the president isn't protected under your generic first amendment rights.
The bigges issue with napster is fair use. I think it's fair use to distribute copyrighted material for non-commercial purposes. Why does a larger scale make bootlegging any diferent? Maybe you feel differently...but that's the only argument you can bring up.
oh..and BTW - as has already been mentioned. Nap hasn't been shut down. I'm gonna go get me some more mp3's of CD's i already own;-)
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
good. that means napster will become legal sometime soon;-). Marijuana is being decriminalized in more and more states. The way i see it. It's only a matter of time before Marijuana becomes yet another regulated drug (read: Alcohol).
As far as the court of public opinion is concerned. By the end of this year, there will be ~70million people using Nap. This, to me, seems like public opinion is going the opposite way of big business. This is assuming nap doesn't get shut down by Big Brother (no people...not THAT Big Brother).
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
First off. your conclusions are derived from an unsound basis. You cannot assume A, when A is not factual. You are basically saying that the bible is truth if God exists. Well, that's what we're trying to debate. This would be similar to me writing a document that was handed down to me by Margaret, Lowell, or Steve (read my above comments)...and telling you that, because Margaret, Lowell, and Steve DO exist, my document proves that they exist. Right about now you should be thinking the same thing i'm thinking about the Bible, "WHAT?!?!!?"
The Bible was written by committee, not by God.
The cannon (the books of the bible) was chosen by echumenical(sp?) council from a large collection of writings, most of which are still held in the Vatican, this was circa 1300s. (Both old/new testament : the torah notwithstanding). Different people who were commisioned to write the bible, most of whom were commanded by Alexander the Great, for the library in Alexandria. Search the history of Alex the Great and Alexandria for more nfo. (also: check Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John). Additionally, note the differences in the stories of Jesus's life between Mathew and Mark, and then Mathew and Luke.
As far as the bible being commanded by god, you referenced the KJNV. King James I (I of England, VI of Scotland) did his own editing. Check out how the KJNV is written mostly in iambic pentameter (the style of the day). The latin and greek versions from which this was translated were not written in this poetic style. Before the invention of the printing press the books of the bible were hand copied. Each hand copy was an eddition/editing - and each editing altered the bible's content slightly. Note that the bible has been translated an insane number of times. Hebrew to Greek, Greek to Latin, Latin to Latin, Latin to English and Greek to English (the original versions were written in greek by hebrew authors).
If this is the word of god...why has it been changed so much by the languages of men?
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i wouldn't say these shows are an entirely bogus waste of time.
most people that say they're not realistic enough have no insight. That's what is most interesting about them....shows like Survivor give us insight into human nature.
The only show i really watch, however, is the original...say it with me now...Real World. It's probably the most realistic you'll get. I just find it odd that no one is giving any credit to shows like the Real World and Road Rules (RW is now in something like it's 8th season). God forbid any baby-boomers actually watch it.
It's interesting, thought, too see what makes us all different and what makes us all the same. oh well...there are approximately 3 networks that aren't filled with mind numming crap. And CBS isn't one of 'em.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Kansas
voters now support the teaching of evolution in their public schools, as evidenced by recent election results.
FUCK! i figured if one state, out of all our glorious fifty, could hold on their illusions about life on this planet...it was going to be Kansas!
damn this rationality! That state is going to burn in hell with all their new fangled scientific idears! Next they'll probably remove all board members who belong to the flat earth society! (yeah right...like the earth is ROUND?!?!) that's when the whores and the crack move in!
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i think the biggest draw to old school video games is that they're really fun when you're drunk.
have you ever tried to play Gran Tourismo 2 after a 6 pack of Coors? It's not happenin' - although when you wake up in the mornin' is IS pretty fun to see the cars you bought the night before ("boy did i trick out that volkswagen")
Additionally, there was more of a feeling of fraternity (you too ladies) with games "back in the day" - even up to a few years ago. Now when i play computer games like half-life and its various mods...i can't go 30 seconds without someone complaining that someone else is cheating. Whatever happened to the days when, if someone beat you, you said "damn...that guy's good!"??
shit - i gotta go...the space invaders are coming...and they're black and white!
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Slashdot Mirror
ugh!
but at what cost to the linux community? i don't think anyone's realizing the full consequences of the "dumbing down" of linux.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
if the Internet allows every schmoe to declare themselves a presidential candidate, will it help the political process?
Um...the internet doesn't allow every schmoe to declare themselves a presidential candidate...the constitution does. Remember, if you're over 35 and were born in the USA - you, too, can run for president.
but then again, one needs to remember that the american public doesn't technically pick the president. The electoral college does. Lucky for us...they've gone along with the popular vote every time...well, most of the time.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
make that "liar"
:(
i'm tired - and yes...i'm still at work
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
fuck that man!
;-)
you made the life of a sysad sound WAY easier than it is
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Well for the most part people have spent decades making the job of a sysadmin almost anything that I could do just running my own debian box from a modem and that unix class I took at the university.
lmfao...[insert part B of my last comment here]
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
two semi-related points here.
A) Please try to add a bit of HTML formatting to your comments, they are pretty difficult to get through as they are now.
B) It always makes me laugh when people make light of what sysads do. Trust me, your comment only serves to ensure readers that you truly have no understanding of what we sysads do.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
It always annoys me when something like this happens. I'm glad to see that the gub'ment has allowed the RBHL to do what it needs to do.
this isn't denying anyone from sending spam...it's just saying "hey, you may wanna take note of these guys"
just the same as the usenet death sentancing that's going on....It's not law, or anyone fscking anyone over. It's just a respected group keeping a database of known evil-doers. Am i the only one who can't believe the gub'ment actually made a correct decision on this one?
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
you knew someone was gonna say it
it's a computer...
AND a 6 foot electric bong.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
this means we're so close
perhaps, 12 or 13 years from now...when i have a kid..i'll be able to give him the first ever release of Netscape 6....
beta.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Yes, the first thing i did upon seeing this article was visit the imdb. but you obviously didn't even bother to read the full two sentances of my comment.
oh, and congratulations, you learned how to cut and paste
tomorrow we'll cover editing your own text.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
slow news day eh?
personally, i don't understand why cardboard boxes have been around for so long. I figure, if you order a washer/dryer combo from a store, the cardboard you purchase it in should be able to unpack the washer/dryer combo for you, set it all up, and do a complimentary load of laundry.
my not-so-serious point is that tarballs and zips are the cardboard boxes of the computer world. They're meant to do one specific task, and they do it well. No one can say the tar command isn't pretty robust. But basically, do you care about the packaging something comes in? I sure as shit don't. I care what's in it. - *nix, generally being more hacker oriented has always had a do it yourself attitude. Personally, i don't want to see a single file that extracts, runs, and does your dishes all at the same time...that's just not what i switched up for.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
I do believe in a young earth.
holy shit. most people don't go NEARLY as far as you just went. i'll cede the argument on that point.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
name two other works that guiness was a major character in. These must not include any star-wars or movies/plays you found out about today.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i think one of the thought processes that believers get snagged on is the idea that, since science doesn't have all the answers yet, God must be the only possible answer...
ironic being that it is widely theorized that god was invented by man to explain that which he could not. For the vast majority i can't tell you what the right answer is...but most rational people (read: Sagan) have ruled out God as an acceptable answer.
as for the inherent order in the universe, or, perhaps the "unmoved mover" theory suggested by most when the concept of the big bang is suggested, these arguments are sort of "can you explain them with your scientific method? no??? well then...it must be god!" - personally, i just think science isn't NEARLY that far yet. The answers to these questions, just like all others, will be answered in time.
one funny thing about the bible is how it doesn't mention dinosaurs, or, for that matter, any creatures that existed millions of years before humans walked the planet. Doesn't it strike you as weird that none of this is explained? What about the fact that, if you play by the bible's rules, the earth is only 6,000 years old?
Basically, according to the bible, if it didn't happen during the time the bible was written, it doesn't exist on the bible's terms. No airplanes, no cars, no dinosaurs. What about austrelophithicus? lucy? - we can say with an incredible amount of certainty that humans did evolve (not from apes) from a common ancestor of apes. Science can't explain the fundamental questions raised about life, etc....but it can sure as shit answer alot more questions than the bible can.
i'm sorry that you don't accept the creation of life from proteins and amino acids. But it's pretty much a fact. What about the gay gene? If humans were created, as they are today, by god about six thousand years ago...then the gene for homosexuality was most obviously placed in humans by god. Kinda weird when you think about the fact that a christian/jewish god tells us homosexuality is wrong. - they've already found a specific governing gene for homosexuality in fruit flies. God has to have created fruit flies...well...he created gay fruit flies too...not a choice. Genetics. - God seems to provide a really jacked up explanation in this instance.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Would you care to suggest what "services" an artist/writer could provide as an alternative to the current model?
;-)
;-)
i've never been much for digital authorship. So i can't say that i'm a fan of digital books. That being said, the main difference between a musician and an author is that an author can't go on tour duplicating his works in a 2 hour show. Salenger can't travel the globe rewriting Catcher in the Rye for huge audiences. Musicians can...guess what...that's originally what they were payed for
Authors can, however, travel the globe giving readings and such (i always enjoy seeing Terry Brooks). They get paid for that (quite a bit more than i do). Also, the system of buying books has been around SIGNIFIGANTLY longer than buying recorded music. I don't propose to know the specifics of handling authorship as well, but let me say i will always go down to the Tattered Cover and buy books. A) to read, and B) to support the authors who wrote them. But hey, if you're Daniel Steele, i'm not sure you deserve to get paid for the crap you put out
You're paying for the right to listen to it. That's all. That's how IP works - without an explicit contract assigning copyright to you, all you can do legally is read/listen/use that material - you can't redistribute it.
what about a place like Recycle Records here in Denver? I can go up to them, and sell my CD to them for, say $6. I can also buy CD's that other people have sold to them. The artists aren't making any money off these transactions. If all i'm doing is paying for a "site license" for my music, why am i allowed this particular courtesy?
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
We could go at that all week. You say, "Prove to me that God exists." I say "Prove to me that he does not." Stalemate.
ouch. i just want to point out that, while the rest of your arguments are very interesting and insightful, this one is REALLY poor. And what's more...i've heard it from just about every "believer" i've ever argued the point of god with.
what's wrong with it? The burden of proof lies solely on you "believers." - you can't say that something is fact and then tell people to try to disprove it. I'm sorry, but in a rational world, that's not the way things work.
but then again, that's the best part about the theory of God...it CAN'T be disproven. It's just not possible because of the catchall that "god is omnipotent and omnicient" and better yet, "the lord works in mysterious ways." - so it's really hip because you can't disprove it. If i were to come up with something that damn near disproved the existance of God....people get to use their catchall. how do you explain suffering in the world "the devil...and the lord works in mysterious ways" - how do you explain such and so? "the lord works in mysterious ways." It's great. you literally CAN'T say with %100 certainty that there is no god. But it's still up to the believers to PROVE that he exists. Why hasn't god done that yet? Just come down and smacked all non-believers upside the head? I never got that one.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
just to clarify (i won't flame you since the others did a good job of that)
I hate liberals. I hate conservatives. I hate libertarians and communists. If you belong to a party, or align yourself with a political party...i hate you.
I smoke about a pack a day of Kamel Red Lights. I drink, sometimes heavily, sometimes a glass of wine with a nice meal. I smoke marijuana. Why? Because it makes me feel good. No other reason. I just like the way i feel after a bowl. And while i'm smoking weed...i'm not babysitting your kids, or trying to drive an 18 wheeler, or give your wife oral pleasure for another quarter sack. so shut the fuck up and quit implying that i'm a loser or a criminal.
That meal i just enjoyed a glass of wine with....it's always best if it's a big 16oz ribeye or a T-bone aged to perfection....so juicy and tender you can cut it with a fork.
In conclusion...kiss my ass you whiney little intolerant republican.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Don't you feel at least a little hypocritical putting both of these sentences together in the same post?
Certainly not. Redistributing valid credit card numbers is the same as handing someone a checkbook and saying "have at it." That is theft in the basic sense that that credit card is going to be used to steal money from someone that already has it.
When you talk about ripping a song to mp3 and then redistributing it, you're talking about intellectual property...a concept that is, basically, dumb. Are you paying for that CD, the right to do with it as you wish? Are you paying for the right to listen to that CD? Does the CD actually belong to you in that instance? What if i were to give that CD to a friend? what then? Everything get's convoluded with IP...and it's just crap. Pay the artist for a service, not for an idea.
Your argument stems from the fact that you think IP is a valid way to play the game. I don't - that keeps my post from being the least bit hypocritical. If you honestly think that stealing a credit card and using napster are anywhere NEAR the same thing then please, don't respond to this post....the argument is pointless.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
redistributing credit card numbers == redistribution of stolen goods.
;-)
Distribution of WPP is probably illegal in that you're going to get people killed. That's not protected under free speech for much the same reason as inciting a riot or saying that you're going to kill the president isn't protected under your generic first amendment rights.
The bigges issue with napster is fair use. I think it's fair use to distribute copyrighted material for non-commercial purposes. Why does a larger scale make bootlegging any diferent? Maybe you feel differently...but that's the only argument you can bring up.
oh..and BTW - as has already been mentioned. Nap hasn't been shut down. I'm gonna go get me some more mp3's of CD's i already own
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
it's comparable to smoking pot.
;-). Marijuana is being decriminalized in more and more states. The way i see it. It's only a matter of time before Marijuana becomes yet another regulated drug (read: Alcohol).
good. that means napster will become legal sometime soon
As far as the court of public opinion is concerned. By the end of this year, there will be ~70million people using Nap. This, to me, seems like public opinion is going the opposite way of big business. This is assuming nap doesn't get shut down by Big Brother (no people...not THAT Big Brother).
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
First off. your conclusions are derived from an unsound basis. You cannot assume A, when A is not factual. You are basically saying that the bible is truth if God exists. Well, that's what we're trying to debate. This would be similar to me writing a document that was handed down to me by Margaret, Lowell, or Steve (read my above comments)...and telling you that, because Margaret, Lowell, and Steve DO exist, my document proves that they exist. Right about now you should be thinking the same thing i'm thinking about the Bible, "WHAT?!?!!?"
The Bible was written by committee, not by God.
The cannon (the books of the bible) was chosen by echumenical(sp?) council from a large collection of writings, most of which are still held in the Vatican, this was circa 1300s. (Both old/new testament : the torah notwithstanding). Different people who were commisioned to write the bible, most of whom were commanded by Alexander the Great, for the library in Alexandria. Search the history of Alex the Great and Alexandria for more nfo. (also: check Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John). Additionally, note the differences in the stories of Jesus's life between Mathew and Mark, and then Mathew and Luke.
As far as the bible being commanded by god, you referenced the KJNV. King James I (I of England, VI of Scotland) did his own editing. Check out how the KJNV is written mostly in iambic pentameter (the style of the day). The latin and greek versions from which this was translated were not written in this poetic style. Before the invention of the printing press the books of the bible were hand copied. Each hand copy was an eddition/editing - and each editing altered the bible's content slightly. Note that the bible has been translated an insane number of times. Hebrew to Greek, Greek to Latin, Latin to Latin, Latin to English and Greek to English (the original versions were written in greek by hebrew authors).
If this is the word of god...why has it been changed so much by the languages of men?
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i wouldn't say these shows are an entirely bogus waste of time.
most people that say they're not realistic enough have no insight. That's what is most interesting about them....shows like Survivor give us insight into human nature.
The only show i really watch, however, is the original...say it with me now...Real World. It's probably the most realistic you'll get. I just find it odd that no one is giving any credit to shows like the Real World and Road Rules (RW is now in something like it's 8th season). God forbid any baby-boomers actually watch it.
It's interesting, thought, too see what makes us all different and what makes us all the same. oh well...there are approximately 3 networks that aren't filled with mind numming crap. And CBS isn't one of 'em.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
ironic that the bible is infallible if it was written by man. If man is fallible...so are his creations.
;-)
i'm just eager to die so we can see which religion was right
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Kansas voters now support the teaching of evolution in their public schools, as evidenced by recent election results.
FUCK! i figured if one state, out of all our glorious fifty, could hold on their illusions about life on this planet...it was going to be Kansas!
damn this rationality! That state is going to burn in hell with all their new fangled scientific idears! Next they'll probably remove all board members who belong to the flat earth society! (yeah right...like the earth is ROUND?!?!) that's when the whores and the crack move in!
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i think the biggest draw to old school video games is that they're really fun when you're drunk.
have you ever tried to play Gran Tourismo 2 after a 6 pack of Coors? It's not happenin' - although when you wake up in the mornin' is IS pretty fun to see the cars you bought the night before ("boy did i trick out that volkswagen")
Additionally, there was more of a feeling of fraternity (you too ladies) with games "back in the day" - even up to a few years ago. Now when i play computer games like half-life and its various mods...i can't go 30 seconds without someone complaining that someone else is cheating. Whatever happened to the days when, if someone beat you, you said "damn...that guy's good!"??
shit - i gotta go...the space invaders are coming...and they're black and white!
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network