I can't fault people for being irrational? Really?
Yes I can. It is irrational to believe that Microsoft has code in there which is manipulating the page rankings based on the philosophy of the content on the page, just as much as it is irrational that Google is doing so.
They simply use different page ranking schemes, and because there are differences, there will be anecdotal evidence about search results that support irrational morons.
Yes, I can blame them for being stupid. Yes, I very well can.
Its just a really really crappy port. Thats all. The only insight we can get from this is that its not so easy to port from/to those other platforms as some people would have us believe.
(22.99 + 16.88 + 10.92 + 7.60) = 58.39% of gamers systems are Vista or Win7 according to the latest (February 2010) Steam Hardware Survey
Only a declining 21.55% of users have both Windows XP and a DX10 or DX11 GPU, which shows us that even though DX10/11 hardware is increasing in popularity, its not increasing as fast as the Vista/7 adoption rate is.
The problem with your 80% vs 40% market share argument isnt the fact that you made the numbers up on the spot, but rather you think that this is primarily a GPU phenomena.
The big hurdle for game developers these days is scaling CPU needs, with 55% of gamers having dual core systems and 25% having quad core systems. Unlike graphics stuff, its not easy to trim back the CPU needs of a game without fundamentally altering it. On the GPU can they throw fewer polygons (LOD was a solved problem a decade ago), use faster shaders, offer lower resolutions, etc.. they just can't do the same with AI code, and messing with physics is a recipe for disaster.
To add to the situation, when searching google for "google is evil" the first few hits are about google's "do no evil" while on bing the first page hit (had videos hits at the top) is titled "Is Google evil?"
I do not presume that Google is being dishonest here.
Wrong. The only reason they did it now is because almost 100% of end users ALREADY HAVE A LICENSE.
Period. It the American Linux users players H.264 that have something to worry about.. but there is just not enough of them to make a stink about their illegal ways.
...but there is no reason for browsers to implement any video codec... so what you said in the first paragraph is stupid.
If your browser is decoding videos, FOSS or not, then your browser is wasting your money...
I hear this argument again and again... "but if they choose H.264 then my FOSS browser..." blah blah blah... FireFox is FOSS, but most FireFox users have been playing H.264 web content for years.. hardware accelerated even... [B]end of fucking story[/B]
Sure.. the zealots will complain because they cant have a "totally free" computer.. you know.. those guys that dream of HURD being usable one day... 99.995% of the rest of the world just don't give a fuck. They paid for an H.264 license and its like spitting in their eye if you refuse to not only support it, but not support it in the best pay possible.. through the codecs they already own, customized for their hardware.
If you insist that KB = 1000 bytes, then get off our lawn. REALLY. You cannot be a nerd. Let me repeat that...
...YOU.....CANNOT......BE....A..........NERD
You might be in the tech industry.. but you arent a fucking nerd if you think KB should equal 1000 bytes. Nerds know why its not just stupid, but also completely unacceptable. You obviously dont know why its completely unacceptable, making you by definition, NOT A NERD. That makes you a GEEK.
Now I shall raise the fucking stakes: You dont need to know the exact size of anything unless you are a nerd. Thats right.. THIS DOESNT EVEN MATTER TO NON-NERDS. You dont care if it says KB or KiB, and in fact if KB meant 31414 bytes it would not matter to you, because your kind only works in like quantities.. your kinddoesnt perform unit conversions on these values.
There. I've said my piece. All you geeks can go fuck yourselves. NERDS4EVER!!!!!
Bullshit have you looked at the price of drives arround the 320-500GB mark (which seems to be what you mostly see in off the shelf PCs at the moment), it's less than $50
Cheapest 320GB laptop drive on newegg is over $50, besides which you still missed the point. Normal people dont buy hard drives, they buy systems.
Let me repeat that for you. Normal people do not buy hard drives. Normal people buy systems.
OK one more time. Normal people do not buy hard drives. Normal people buy systems.
Systems are not configured and then a price decided upon. Thats not how it works. A price is decided upon and then the system is configured. This is because the market will bare a certain price, and thats what is targeted. The box with the SSD and the box with the HDD will have the same price range, but offer different features. The SSD box will offer performance, the HDD box will offer capacity.
If you dont believe that this is true, then explain why so many notebooks and netbooks are sold with SSD's in them, right now.
You are arguing for the geeks who will buy a hard drive and know how to install it. Geeks do not matter. Geeks are not the market. The geek market is irrelevant. You are not normal. You do not define the market. You are a unique and ugly basement dweller that does not define the market. Your opinion of what is and is not a good deal is irrelevant.
As far as normal people having office.. umm.. no.. normal people do not have office. Normal people have Word. They do not need a spread sheet or a database.. in fact.. they dont know what that shit is, and if they had them, wouldnt know how to use them.
Stop arguing like your grandmother thinks like you. She doesn't. Nor do your parents, or their friends, or their co-workers.
Are the people who only use their computers as glorified word processors and internet terminals (and the corporate buyers who buy for them) really going to pay extra for a SSD?
But its not extra cost... its just smaller. Thats the point.
My 4 year old read that the average user was only writing 2.4GB/day and said that someone who picked a theory and then tried to find supporting anecdotal evidence, but could only come up with extreme examples such as 9.2GB/day, is a rotting melon head.
How long do HDD's last under extreme usage? You seem to think that they last at least 5 years, but I know for a fact that an 8% yearly failure rate is a good approximation. The chance of a modern HDD surviving 5 years in a heavy load environment is 0.92^5,.. only 65%.
Do you do online banking more than twice a month? I pick twice a month presuming that you do manually initiated online bill paying.
For people that ebank twice a month, I don't think booting from a CD is going to be a pain in the ass at all. If you online bank more than that, then by definition you are under increased exposer and thus dealing with more inconveniences for the same level of protection is a given.
I have a linux partition specifically for online banking (I'm a once-per-month guy.) Now that this article mentioned it.. a Live CD would be an even better choice.
I learned a long time ago that the portability grail is bullshit.
Yes, Java does offer the ability to run apps unmodified on many platforms and configurations, but it does so at a cost. While getting the same level of targeting in a language like C is more difficult, you can do much more with C. You arent constrained by Java's idea of a GUI. You arent constrained by Java's notion of endianness. You aren't constrained by Java's notion of floating point formats. This goes on, but i'll spare you.
In most cases, a programmer needs to support exactly 1 universe. In most of the remaining cases, there are no more than 3 similar universes to support. For most people, [pick a language] plus platform specifics is perfectly fine. For most of the rest, [pick a language] plus a ported toolkit and some preprocessor tests is fine. Java doesn't offer the first group much of anything, and is simply a tradeoff for the second group.
C# isnt Java. Who the hell cares? Really. Most programmers hate both.
I'll take language choice over "portability" any day of the week.
Now, 5 years data retention is probably still okay for most use where you dont keep devices more than 5 years. But 5000 P/E cycles seems very low for a PC or even smartphones. I would think that wear leveling algorithm can only do so much....
Even on the smallest drives..
5000 write cycles * 40 gigabytes = 200 TB of writable lifetime, At 5 years that 40 TB per year, 3.33 TB per month, 109 GB per day. Lets assume that the wear leveling algorithms actually suck complete fucking nuts, such that the actual limit is only 50 GB per day for 5 years.
Now check your own usage over time. Seriously. Do it. Stop making stupid assumptions. On windows the program you can run Resource Monitor, so no excuses if you are a windows boy. Do it.
It takes a special kind of user to be burning through 50 GB per day, every day, for 5 years. This very same special kind of user burns through traditional HDD's very quickly as well. Quite simply, if you do not frequently have to delete things to make room for new things, you are nowhere close to 50 GB per day. Check your own usage. Seriously. Do it. Stop making stupid assumptions.
I really hate people so bad at math that they dont even bother to do the simple stuff. A fucking 4 year old could have told you that you were wrong.
While SSDs are getting cheaper and cheaper, computers are needing more and more storage space.
Not really.. we blew by the 130GB barrier (you should know what that was, or get off the lawn) 8 years ago, yet most people still only need 40GB or so.
Most people do not need lots of space. They have the OS, a few productivity apps, a web browser, a media player, their MP3 collection, and photos from their camera. Thats it. Easily fits in 40GB. Most people are not ripping DVD's, or using torrents, or packing 100 games onto their drive, a collecting massive amounts of porn.
All this talk about storage costs... if you only cared about storage costs, you'd be running tapes, not platters.
OK, I have 1.5 TB's of storage space. Why am I going to buy another? Thats right.. I'm not..
I am guessing that your porn collection grows so fast that you are always shopping around for another terabyte or two? Thats not how the real world operates.
In the real world, we don't try to find someone retailing laptops with terabytes of disk space. In the real world, that SSD looks damn attractive in that stock laptop. Fast? yeah.. very fast.. Big enough? yeah.. big enough.. Wont turn into a worthless platter the moment I drop the laptop? yeah.. the G forces these things withstand is VERY impressive.. The laptop costs about the same as that other laptop with that mechanic drive? yeah.. prices are similar.
How about an unbiased sample? An extensive sample, even?
Google, being a very big consumer of HD's, has published such data.
3% die in the first 3 months, another 4% die by the end of the 1st year.
8% more die in year 2.
Maybe you have missed the fact that these monster capacity drives actually suck in the reliability department? yeah.. 3 out of 100 convert themselves into worthless crap within 90 days.
What makes you think that this bill is universal health care?
You continually confuse health insurance with health care, which is why so many of your statements are so demonstrably wrong. This bill does not mandate universal health care.. it mandates that everyone must get health insurance, with tax credits and funds available for those than can show that they are financially unable to afford insurance.
Our health insurance system is not like your universal health care system.
In a universal care system, the government can mandate that only tests X, Y and Z may be performed for symptoms A and B, or that test X is only done once per year with as long as no symptoms are present.
In an insurance system, there is no such mandate, that in fact an individual benefits from also having tests P, Q, and R performed if they do not create more out of pocket costs for themselves, that its in the best interests of the doctor to provide P, Q, and R on demand. He makes more money AND he has reduced his liability.
Can you legally have a testicle exam performed on you every 30 days with your universal health care? Didn't think so. Guess what.. we can.
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I can't fault people for being irrational? Really?
Yes I can. It is irrational to believe that Microsoft has code in there which is manipulating the page rankings based on the philosophy of the content on the page, just as much as it is irrational that Google is doing so.
They simply use different page ranking schemes, and because there are differences, there will be anecdotal evidence about search results that support irrational morons.
Yes, I can blame them for being stupid. Yes, I very well can.
Its just a really really crappy port. Thats all. The only insight we can get from this is that its not so easy to port from/to those other platforms as some people would have us believe.
(22.99 + 16.88 + 10.92 + 7.60) = 58.39% of gamers systems are Vista or Win7 according to the latest (February 2010) Steam Hardware Survey
Only a declining 21.55% of users have both Windows XP and a DX10 or DX11 GPU, which shows us that even though DX10/11 hardware is increasing in popularity, its not increasing as fast as the Vista/7 adoption rate is.
The problem with your 80% vs 40% market share argument isnt the fact that you made the numbers up on the spot, but rather you think that this is primarily a GPU phenomena.
The big hurdle for game developers these days is scaling CPU needs, with 55% of gamers having dual core systems and 25% having quad core systems. Unlike graphics stuff, its not easy to trim back the CPU needs of a game without fundamentally altering it. On the GPU can they throw fewer polygons (LOD was a solved problem a decade ago), use faster shaders, offer lower resolutions, etc.. they just can't do the same with AI code, and messing with physics is a recipe for disaster.
To add to the situation, when searching google for "google is evil" the first few hits are about google's "do no evil" while on bing the first page hit (had videos hits at the top) is titled "Is Google evil?"
I do not presume that Google is being dishonest here.
You presume that it must be for dishonest reasons.
You are essentially trying to claim that when you perform that search, that there is some code that does...
if ( RESULT[0].MakesWindowsLookBad() ) { insert(RESULT, 0, PageThatMakesOSXLookBad) }
This is completely laughable. Really.
A rational person asks the question "Why does it rank that page higher" and "Are any of the solutions preferable to the current ranking system?"
Wrong. The only reason they did it now is because almost 100% of end users ALREADY HAVE A LICENSE.
Period. It the American Linux users players H.264 that have something to worry about.. but there is just not enough of them to make a stink about their illegal ways.
...but there is no reason for browsers to implement any video codec... so what you said in the first paragraph is stupid.
If your browser is decoding videos, FOSS or not, then your browser is wasting your money...
I hear this argument again and again... "but if they choose H.264 then my FOSS browser..." blah blah blah... FireFox is FOSS, but most FireFox users have been playing H.264 web content for years.. hardware accelerated even... [B]end of fucking story[/B]
Sure.. the zealots will complain because they cant have a "totally free" computer.. you know.. those guys that dream of HURD being usable one day... 99.995% of the rest of the world just don't give a fuck. They paid for an H.264 license and its like spitting in their eye if you refuse to not only support it, but not support it in the best pay possible.. through the codecs they already own, customized for their hardware.
Here is my point:
...YOU.....CANNOT......BE....A..........NERD
.. your kind doesnt perform unit conversions on these values.
This is SLASHDOT, NEWS FOR NERDS.
If you insist that KB = 1000 bytes, then get off our lawn. REALLY. You cannot be a nerd. Let me repeat that...
You might be in the tech industry.. but you arent a fucking nerd if you think KB should equal 1000 bytes. Nerds know why its not just stupid, but also completely unacceptable. You obviously dont know why its completely unacceptable, making you by definition, NOT A NERD. That makes you a GEEK.
Now I shall raise the fucking stakes: You dont need to know the exact size of anything unless you are a nerd. Thats right.. THIS DOESNT EVEN MATTER TO NON-NERDS. You dont care if it says KB or KiB, and in fact if KB meant 31414 bytes it would not matter to you, because your kind only works in like quantities
There. I've said my piece. All you geeks can go fuck yourselves. NERDS4EVER!!!!!
Bullshit have you looked at the price of drives arround the 320-500GB mark (which seems to be what you mostly see in off the shelf PCs at the moment), it's less than $50
Cheapest 320GB laptop drive on newegg is over $50, besides which you still missed the point. Normal people dont buy hard drives, they buy systems.
Let me repeat that for you. Normal people do not buy hard drives. Normal people buy systems.
OK one more time. Normal people do not buy hard drives. Normal people buy systems.
Systems are not configured and then a price decided upon. Thats not how it works. A price is decided upon and then the system is configured. This is because the market will bare a certain price, and thats what is targeted. The box with the SSD and the box with the HDD will have the same price range, but offer different features. The SSD box will offer performance, the HDD box will offer capacity.
If you dont believe that this is true, then explain why so many notebooks and netbooks are sold with SSD's in them, right now.
You are arguing for the geeks who will buy a hard drive and know how to install it. Geeks do not matter. Geeks are not the market. The geek market is irrelevant. You are not normal. You do not define the market. You are a unique and ugly basement dweller that does not define the market. Your opinion of what is and is not a good deal is irrelevant.
As far as normal people having office.. umm.. no.. normal people do not have office. Normal people have Word. They do not need a spread sheet or a database.. in fact.. they dont know what that shit is, and if they had them, wouldnt know how to use them.
Stop arguing like your grandmother thinks like you. She doesn't. Nor do your parents, or their friends, or their co-workers.
Are the people who only use their computers as glorified word processors and internet terminals (and the corporate buyers who buy for them) really going to pay extra for a SSD?
But its not extra cost... its just smaller. Thats the point.
My 4 year old read that the average user was only writing 2.4GB/day and said that someone who picked a theory and then tried to find supporting anecdotal evidence, but could only come up with extreme examples such as 9.2GB/day, is a rotting melon head.
.. only 65%.
How long do HDD's last under extreme usage? You seem to think that they last at least 5 years, but I know for a fact that an 8% yearly failure rate is a good approximation. The chance of a modern HDD surviving 5 years in a heavy load environment is 0.92^5,
Welcome to the real world, dopey.
Do you do online banking more than twice a month? I pick twice a month presuming that you do manually initiated online bill paying.
For people that ebank twice a month, I don't think booting from a CD is going to be a pain in the ass at all. If you online bank more than that, then by definition you are under increased exposer and thus dealing with more inconveniences for the same level of protection is a given.
I have a linux partition specifically for online banking (I'm a once-per-month guy.) Now that this article mentioned it.. a Live CD would be an even better choice.
he just wanted you to help build his barn
I learned a long time ago that the portability grail is bullshit.
Yes, Java does offer the ability to run apps unmodified on many platforms and configurations, but it does so at a cost. While getting the same level of targeting in a language like C is more difficult, you can do much more with C. You arent constrained by Java's idea of a GUI. You arent constrained by Java's notion of endianness. You aren't constrained by Java's notion of floating point formats. This goes on, but i'll spare you.
In most cases, a programmer needs to support exactly 1 universe. In most of the remaining cases, there are no more than 3 similar universes to support. For most people, [pick a language] plus platform specifics is perfectly fine. For most of the rest, [pick a language] plus a ported toolkit and some preprocessor tests is fine. Java doesn't offer the first group much of anything, and is simply a tradeoff for the second group.
C# isnt Java. Who the hell cares? Really. Most programmers hate both.
I'll take language choice over "portability" any day of the week.
While I can easily afford the price tag, that thing just wont fit in my mothers basement.
Now, 5 years data retention is probably still okay for most use where you dont keep devices more than 5 years. But 5000 P/E cycles seems very low for a PC or even smartphones. I would think that wear leveling algorithm can only do so much....
Even on the smallest drives..
5000 write cycles * 40 gigabytes = 200 TB of writable lifetime, At 5 years that 40 TB per year, 3.33 TB per month, 109 GB per day. Lets assume that the wear leveling algorithms actually suck complete fucking nuts, such that the actual limit is only 50 GB per day for 5 years.
Now check your own usage over time. Seriously. Do it. Stop making stupid assumptions. On windows the program you can run Resource Monitor, so no excuses if you are a windows boy. Do it.
It takes a special kind of user to be burning through 50 GB per day, every day, for 5 years. This very same special kind of user burns through traditional HDD's very quickly as well. Quite simply, if you do not frequently have to delete things to make room for new things, you are nowhere close to 50 GB per day. Check your own usage. Seriously. Do it. Stop making stupid assumptions.
I really hate people so bad at math that they dont even bother to do the simple stuff. A fucking 4 year old could have told you that you were wrong.
I think it was more like DOS 3
Translation:
Stop talking about Apple! I don't care that Opera Mini is faster than anything from Apple! Apple rules! I loves Apple! STFU!!!
Most people do not install games, at all.
While SSDs are getting cheaper and cheaper, computers are needing more and more storage space.
Not really.. we blew by the 130GB barrier (you should know what that was, or get off the lawn) 8 years ago, yet most people still only need 40GB or so.
Most people do not need lots of space. They have the OS, a few productivity apps, a web browser, a media player, their MP3 collection, and photos from their camera. Thats it. Easily fits in 40GB. Most people are not ripping DVD's, or using torrents, or packing 100 games onto their drive, a collecting massive amounts of porn.
All this talk about storage costs... if you only cared about storage costs, you'd be running tapes, not platters.
OK, I have 1.5 TB's of storage space. Why am I going to buy another? Thats right.. I'm not..
I am guessing that your porn collection grows so fast that you are always shopping around for another terabyte or two? Thats not how the real world operates.
In the real world, we don't try to find someone retailing laptops with terabytes of disk space. In the real world, that SSD looks damn attractive in that stock laptop. Fast? yeah.. very fast.. Big enough? yeah.. big enough.. Wont turn into a worthless platter the moment I drop the laptop? yeah.. the G forces these things withstand is VERY impressive.. The laptop costs about the same as that other laptop with that mechanic drive? yeah.. prices are similar.
Welcome to the real world, rapid porn collector.
How about an unbiased sample? An extensive sample, even?
Google, being a very big consumer of HD's, has published such data.
3% die in the first 3 months, another 4% die by the end of the 1st year.
8% more die in year 2.
Maybe you have missed the fact that these monster capacity drives actually suck in the reliability department? yeah.. 3 out of 100 convert themselves into worthless crap within 90 days.
What makes you think that this bill is universal health care?
You continually confuse health insurance with health care, which is why so many of your statements are so demonstrably wrong. This bill does not mandate universal health care.. it mandates that everyone must get health insurance, with tax credits and funds available for those than can show that they are financially unable to afford insurance.
Our health insurance system is not like your universal health care system.
In a universal care system, the government can mandate that only tests X, Y and Z may be performed for symptoms A and B, or that test X is only done once per year with as long as no symptoms are present.
In an insurance system, there is no such mandate, that in fact an individual benefits from also having tests P, Q, and R performed if they do not create more out of pocket costs for themselves, that its in the best interests of the doctor to provide P, Q, and R on demand. He makes more money AND he has reduced his liability.
Can you legally have a testicle exam performed on you every 30 days with your universal health care? Didn't think so. Guess what.. we can.
Yes, and there is often significantly less noise from USB than from the onboard or PCI board audio.
With USB, the signal is digital by the time it gets near the case full of variable magnetic fields.
..and if you have actually used it on Windows, you know that its really bad.
Unresponsive, with a non-conforming UI, and the installer carries a payload of other apple software.