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Firefox vs. SP2's IE?
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Who cares about load times? I mean, while it's definately good to use a fast browser, I didn't know the difference between the current browsers was great enough to be teh main issue. No matter how fast IE is on desktop Windows, I wouldn't use it. What's at stake isn't the second you wait; rather, it's the life of your computer. There are exploits left and right, malware and spyware. They pretty much all come in through IE. That is the reason for not using IE.
Before I switched to FireFox, I was using CrazyBrowser (a very nice tabbeed browser, using embedded IE with other features). This was back before the spyware craze of recent times, though. I don't remember what version of FF I switched- 0.6 perhaps? This was a time when I didn't have any spyware removal tools. Hell, I didn't have any spyware. About the only thing I needed was a pop-up blocker, something Crazy Browser did well. A minor annoyance. Now a days, IE means not minor annoyances but medium to major security issues. Though I didn't use IE at home, where I had a Mac. Maybe the reason I didn't have problems at work running IE on a Win2k PC was the kinds of sites I went to, usually not the kinds of sites that have spyware even today.
One exception: I use and used IE on Windows CE 3.0 and 4.x. It's a nice browser, and with ftxBrowser you get tabs and lots of other nice features. Unlike the desktop version of 'doze, you don't run into the cornacopia of nasty spywares.
The only thing I ever use vanilla Moz for is for the rad JavaScript debugger. But if it's a tool you need, it's worth having Moz Suite installed- it's quite nice.
Ok, I'll bite. What is the point you're trying to make?
Not that Apple doesn't make some nice stuff, but do you really want to see a Apple-designed cell phone? Phones would become almost status-symbols.
Phones already are status symbols. They've been for a long time, since the first consumer cell phones were sold. And iPods are status symbols too. I fail to "imagine" the upheval. You talk about the iPod's image. It is the iPod's image that makes it the status symbol that it is. Unless they screwed it up, I don't see why an iTMS phone would be much different, except that it was a phone, obviously.
Why would anyone have to listen to music on a built-in speaker? See, there are these new fangled things called headphones. You can even use the headphone jack to hook your mp3/music player up to a real live stereo! Even one with speakers as big as your closet! Or house! It doesn't matter what that music player is- an mp3/wma CD player, an iPod, some lame 128 MB flash-based MP3 player, a PDA (even crappy Palm OS devices can do it these days!), or... a phone! A number of cell phones already play MP3s. People use them as PDAs too!
I dont know how this would be possible.Any ringback/call waiting tune is set by the GSM service provider and not by the phone.Technically how can i hear something from the otherside before the otherside picks the call up i.e before i am connected to the otherside ?
What's hard to understand about this? Are you aware that this is already being done? If not, consider yourself informed: ringbacks already exist, though they're not big in the US. If you are aware of this, what gives you the idea that having an iTunes purchased song as your ring back would be any different than any other MIDI, mp3 or sound effect that you'd have as a ringback?
One day, remind me to tell you the story of computers. They transfer data. Sometimes, they just transfer data between the RAM to the CPU over the bus, but now a days, they are often transfering data also between different computers- say a cell provider's servers and a cell phone. A user can buy a song in iTMS-mobile, have the $1 charged to their phone bill, listen to it and go into a little menu where they say "make this my ringback." How it gets to become the ringback could happen in a number of ways. The most likely senario is that the 20 second sound sample- say, the chorus of the song- is accessed by the cell provider's server, no doubt via connecting to some iTMS server. It could grab that 20 seconds of song and set it as the ringback, however those whacky GSM service providers go around doing that.
The user could probably even have a GUI form on the phone that gives them the illusion that they're "recording" the section they want for their ring back, or perhaps just setting the whole thing. But in the end, it just communicates with the cell provider- who already obviously an agreement with Apple/Mot if they're providing this service already- the hash # for the song in question and the markers for where to begin the sample and where to end it. Simple as that.
I'll leave the other very possible- but not too likely- method as an exercise for the reader. A hint: it has again with computers communicating. Uploading, even.
Problem is that cell fones are typically loss leaders for SOMEBODY, and we all know the iTMS is barely profitable, so I just don't see where the money would be coming from here.
From the same place that Apple gets their money from the iTMS: sales of the iPod. But in this senario, it's not sales of the iPod it's sales of this iPod phone. Whether Apple or Mot is actually doing the hardware-making, Apple will make money on it one way or another- whether they sell it and get that profit, or Mot sells it as has Mot pay.
The Zaurus SL-3000 has a 4GB hard drive. Available in Japan only, of course.
It's not like the HD in the Zaurus really does anything you couldn't do before. I mean, there are plenty of PDAs you can buy today where you can get bluetooth, wifi and a hard drive- bigger than 4 GB even. You can't do this on the Zaurus, not even the SL-C3000- not unless you want to get weird and add one of those big, ugly serial bluetooth dongles. *shudder*
I had a 10 GB hard drive in my Jornada 720 2 years ago. Before that, I had a 2 GB HD- and that 2 GBer only cost $70! Cheap as all get out. I still had wireless even. No bluetooth, but I had no need for it then and still don't. I even had that 2 GB drive in my Newton MP2100. First HD in a PDA, indeed.
I wouldn't quite say only available in Japan... You can order one and get it shipped to you anywhere in the world very easily, no more work than any other online store.
There are already two cell phones with 4 GB hard drives. I can't recall which models they were, but they are totally Japan-only deals. Check on engadget, that's where I've seen the stories.
.net is still inferior to Java. JIT is really pointless IMHO if you aren't bothering to make it cross-platform. And Mono doesn't count because you have to alter your code in a lot of cases to get it to compile in Mono.
What does that statement mean? The first sentence makes sense, though I'd disagree with it. At least.NET gives me access to the language I want to code on- one that is completely open and free, rather than restricting me to one piece of rubbish. And no, pointing me to that Java languages page does not suffice- no languages on that list have the same capabilities as.NET languages do, especially as far as two-way communication.
What do you think a JIT is? A JIT has nothing to do with being cross-platform. Having a JIT'd language doesn't make the language non cross-platform. Sure, the VM isn't cross-platform, but guess what? VMs generally aren't. That's why most intelligent languages (e.g. Smalltalk, Lisp, etc) make the VM tiny- 500 KB of binary or so- and do the rest in the target language. I can't help it that Sun can't tell the diference between a class library and a VM.
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A .Net CPU
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Though Java didn't do it first. This Java chip this wasn't first done with Java- there have been Pascal p-code chips, Forth chips and even BASIC chips for longer than Java existed. The rest of Java is just Smalltalk crammed into an inferior syntax so that LCD (lowest common denominator) programmer converts could grok it, coming from C++.
So will Java follow Smalltalk + Forth everywhere without any of it's own original ideas?
This isn't much different than a SPOT CPU. The same setup is running in the SPOT watches. This is a spin-off of that technology, allowing hobbyists and others that would want to play with a.NET CPU to do so. I'm not sure waht kind of relationship this company has with microsoft, but you bet it's something close to have been able to have a product two months after it's founding. But that is what is going on, from what I've read.
First, at least according to that article, the Star7's CPU was just SPARC- no Java/Oak co-processer/CPU layer. Perhaps there's a reference to that somewhere else, or just a mistake on your part. However, Sun has backed Java-chips in the past, until they were found not to make much sense. Even so, Sun wasn't the first to have the idea- as far as I know, the Western Digital Microengine was the first to implement a bytecode instruction set, the Pascal p-code, as real hardware. Another idea that Sun certainly didn't think up, though people tend to give them more credit than is due to such "innovations."
It's an embedded chip which has a CLR on top of it. Nice idea, sorry that Sun thought of it earlier ( The Green Project) - Sun seems to be consistently missing the BUS here. They came up with "Network is the computer" and now MS is selling ".NET ":)
First, this Green Project doesn't seem to have any sort of Oak/Java co-processor/cpu-layer, at least not referenced in that page- it's just SPARC. Even so, Sun has backed the idea of a Java-chip. Java-chip or not, Sun wasn't the first to have such an idea. There was the Western Digital Microengine, though, which implemented Pascal p-code on hardware. Far before the abortion known as Java ever came to be.
Management by itself seems like a why-bother issue to me. What I'd like is to have integration between this little ingredient database- including dry spices, perishables, frozen stuff, canned goods and everthing else- and a recipesdatabase, whether it's my personal list of recipes or something like the awesome allrecipes.com and webtender.com. I'd love to be able to go onto allrecipes and click a button labelled "give me a 5-course meal with what i have!" and have it generate those 5 courses based on my taste (derived from my ratings of other recipes on allrecipes.com, perhaps), and ratings other folks have given it, all using the materials i have already. Or perhaps, leave me only buying fresh rosemary and chicken breasts, etc. Having all this data is next to worthless for me... But *using* this data would be great.
I'd reccomend getting Card Export II. Not that I've ever used it- my Sony Clie NX70V has no problems like this. The Clie comes with this capability out of the box, and it works quite well. I don't ever bother to sync- I just put files on it using the USB Storage driver that comes with the Clie. I don't install using HotSync, I just copy a PRC to the \PALM\Launcher folder, or MP3s to the correct folder, etc etc.
Holy crap, no Alan Kay?! I mean, half of the people on that list wouldn't exist if it weren't for Alan Kay and the work he and the group he was with at Xerox PARC did.
No, the B5 characters didn't go around yelling "yeeeehaw" a lot. But they weren't a spaaaaaaace weeeeesterrrrrrn. Maybe next time around, JMS can correct that eh?
Further, he tends to drop very subtle hints about things that will feature in the plot much, much later (3 - 5 years wasn't unheard of with B5).
No joke. We just started watching Season 1 again- we watched seasons 1-5 as they came out on DVD. I'm amazed at how many little hints and foreshadows that JMS drops, even in the first few episodes. Indeed, some of these things don't pan out for years- but they really do set the stage mentally.
LegendotR wasn't that bad either- though it would've needed to improve a fair bit to keep from being cancelled at the end of the first season. I watched all of the episodes. One of the big factors that added to the suckiness was that TNT screwed the order up royally... Over at midwinter.net they've got info on the order they were supposed to be done in, but even watched in that order it's goofy, since they modified the plot, etc etc. But it could've been decent... No B5, but better than most.
Nope, B5 is the best. Firefly was great, and it had a *ton* of promise. As a first season, it was way above average. It kicked many an ass.
But with B5, we have seen it all, not just part of the first season. Maybe if FF had lived, maybe in 5 years after 5 seasons of Firefly, I'd be agreeing with you... But it was hardly more than a mini-series in practice.
Mmm... B5. We just started watching Season 1 again now that snow has fallen. B5 has a very... powerful quality when you watch it, in order, first to last. Something I've not seen in any other TV show, including Firefly.
My first response to this is- go buy a Mac. They don't get as hot. Though I've heard that the G4s get a lot hotter- is this true? The only Mac laptop I've had is an iBook G3/500, which never got very warm at all. But then again, nor did my old Dell P75. But this "newer" 400 MHz Micron sure does- sucks in the summer. Sweaty legs. Nasty.
While there were a lot of similar models throughout time, I got you beat: I used to carry around a Tandy TRS-80 Model 4P. The "P" stands for Portable! Mine weighs 30+ pounds (still have it in the basement). I found it at goodwill for something like $4.50, and at the time it seemed like a good idea, but 16 year old nerds always think getting more computer junk is a good idea. A friend and I used to take turns taking it to our classes- mind you, this is in 1996, and this machine has been long obsoleted- and use it for taking notes. For some reason, the teachers were stuck between telling us to shut the damn thing off and thinking it a great use of "technology in the classroom." Every key you'd hit would cause a *beep.* Oh, those were the days...
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Who cares about load times? I mean, while it's definately good to use a fast browser, I didn't know the difference between the current browsers was great enough to be teh main issue. No matter how fast IE is on desktop Windows, I wouldn't use it. What's at stake isn't the second you wait; rather, it's the life of your computer. There are exploits left and right, malware and spyware. They pretty much all come in through IE. That is the reason for not using IE.
Before I switched to FireFox, I was using CrazyBrowser (a very nice tabbeed browser, using embedded IE with other features). This was back before the spyware craze of recent times, though. I don't remember what version of FF I switched- 0.6 perhaps? This was a time when I didn't have any spyware removal tools. Hell, I didn't have any spyware. About the only thing I needed was a pop-up blocker, something Crazy Browser did well. A minor annoyance. Now a days, IE means not minor annoyances but medium to major security issues. Though I didn't use IE at home, where I had a Mac. Maybe the reason I didn't have problems at work running IE on a Win2k PC was the kinds of sites I went to, usually not the kinds of sites that have spyware even today.
One exception: I use and used IE on Windows CE 3.0 and 4.x. It's a nice browser, and with ftxBrowser you get tabs and lots of other nice features. Unlike the desktop version of 'doze, you don't run into the cornacopia of nasty spywares.
The only thing I ever use vanilla Moz for is for the rad JavaScript debugger. But if it's a tool you need, it's worth having Moz Suite installed- it's quite nice.
Who cares if there's a seperate search and url box? Unless you're on a 320x240 screen or something.
In FireFox, I just hit Ctrl-K, type my search commands, and hit enter. No arrowing required.
Smaller? Don't be a pussy. It takes a real man to wear an earing that's 1m by 1.5m. GRR!!
Who the fuck cares?
Lame.
(or: different strokes for different folks.)
Ok, I'll bite. What is the point you're trying to make?
... a phone! A number of cell phones already play MP3s. People use them as PDAs too!
Not that Apple doesn't make some nice stuff, but do you really want to see a Apple-designed cell phone? Phones would become almost status-symbols.
Phones already are status symbols. They've been for a long time, since the first consumer cell phones were sold. And iPods are status symbols too. I fail to "imagine" the upheval. You talk about the iPod's image. It is the iPod's image that makes it the status symbol that it is. Unless they screwed it up, I don't see why an iTMS phone would be much different, except that it was a phone, obviously.
Why would anyone have to listen to music on a built-in speaker? See, there are these new fangled things called headphones. You can even use the headphone jack to hook your mp3/music player up to a real live stereo! Even one with speakers as big as your closet! Or house! It doesn't matter what that music player is- an mp3/wma CD player, an iPod, some lame 128 MB flash-based MP3 player, a PDA (even crappy Palm OS devices can do it these days!), or
I dont know how this would be possible.Any ringback/call waiting tune is set by the GSM service provider and not by the phone.Technically how can i hear something from the otherside before the otherside picks the call up i.e before i am connected to the otherside ?
What's hard to understand about this? Are you aware that this is already being done? If not, consider yourself informed: ringbacks already exist, though they're not big in the US. If you are aware of this, what gives you the idea that having an iTunes purchased song as your ring back would be any different than any other MIDI, mp3 or sound effect that you'd have as a ringback?
One day, remind me to tell you the story of computers. They transfer data. Sometimes, they just transfer data between the RAM to the CPU over the bus, but now a days, they are often transfering data also between different computers- say a cell provider's servers and a cell phone. A user can buy a song in iTMS-mobile, have the $1 charged to their phone bill, listen to it and go into a little menu where they say "make this my ringback." How it gets to become the ringback could happen in a number of ways. The most likely senario is that the 20 second sound sample- say, the chorus of the song- is accessed by the cell provider's server, no doubt via connecting to some iTMS server. It could grab that 20 seconds of song and set it as the ringback, however those whacky GSM service providers go around doing that.
The user could probably even have a GUI form on the phone that gives them the illusion that they're "recording" the section they want for their ring back, or perhaps just setting the whole thing. But in the end, it just communicates with the cell provider- who already obviously an agreement with Apple/Mot if they're providing this service already- the hash # for the song in question and the markers for where to begin the sample and where to end it. Simple as that.
I'll leave the other very possible- but not too likely- method as an exercise for the reader. A hint: it has again with computers communicating. Uploading, even.
Problem is that cell fones are typically loss leaders for SOMEBODY, and we all know the iTMS is barely profitable, so I just don't see where the money would be coming from here.
From the same place that Apple gets their money from the iTMS: sales of the iPod. But in this senario, it's not sales of the iPod it's sales of this iPod phone. Whether Apple or Mot is actually doing the hardware-making, Apple will make money on it one way or another- whether they sell it and get that profit, or Mot sells it as has Mot pay.
The Zaurus SL-3000 has a 4GB hard drive. Available in Japan only, of course.
It's not like the HD in the Zaurus really does anything you couldn't do before. I mean, there are plenty of PDAs you can buy today where you can get bluetooth, wifi and a hard drive- bigger than 4 GB even. You can't do this on the Zaurus, not even the SL-C3000- not unless you want to get weird and add one of those big, ugly serial bluetooth dongles. *shudder*
I had a 10 GB hard drive in my Jornada 720 2 years ago. Before that, I had a 2 GB HD- and that 2 GBer only cost $70! Cheap as all get out. I still had wireless even. No bluetooth, but I had no need for it then and still don't. I even had that 2 GB drive in my Newton MP2100. First HD in a PDA, indeed.
I wouldn't quite say only available in Japan... You can order one and get it shipped to you anywhere in the world very easily, no more work than any other online store.
There are already two cell phones with 4 GB hard drives. I can't recall which models they were, but they are totally Japan-only deals. Check on engadget, that's where I've seen the stories.
.net is still inferior to Java. JIT is really pointless IMHO if you aren't bothering to make it cross-platform. And Mono doesn't count because you have to alter your code in a lot of cases to get it to compile in Mono.
.NET gives me access to the language I want to code on- one that is completely open and free, rather than restricting me to one piece of rubbish. And no, pointing me to that Java languages page does not suffice- no languages on that list have the same capabilities as .NET languages do, especially as far as two-way communication.
What does that statement mean? The first sentence makes sense, though I'd disagree with it. At least
What do you think a JIT is? A JIT has nothing to do with being cross-platform. Having a JIT'd language doesn't make the language non cross-platform. Sure, the VM isn't cross-platform, but guess what? VMs generally aren't. That's why most intelligent languages (e.g. Smalltalk, Lisp, etc) make the VM tiny- 500 KB of binary or so- and do the rest in the target language. I can't help it that Sun can't tell the diference between a class library and a VM.
Though Java didn't do it first. This Java chip this wasn't first done with Java- there have been Pascal p-code chips, Forth chips and even BASIC chips for longer than Java existed. The rest of Java is just Smalltalk crammed into an inferior syntax so that LCD (lowest common denominator) programmer converts could grok it, coming from C++.
So will Java follow Smalltalk + Forth everywhere without any of it's own original ideas?
Why would anyone expect this to be in a general use PC?
.NET is? Sure, it's the CLR and some other stuff. But you don't call it a JVM Chip, you'd call it a Java Chip. Same thing.
Also, what do you think
This isn't much different than a SPOT CPU. The same setup is running in the SPOT watches. This is a spin-off of that technology, allowing hobbyists and others that would want to play with a .NET CPU to do so. I'm not sure waht kind of relationship this company has with microsoft, but you bet it's something close to have been able to have a product two months after it's founding. But that is what is going on, from what I've read.
First, at least according to that article, the Star7's CPU was just SPARC- no Java/Oak co-processer/CPU layer. Perhaps there's a reference to that somewhere else, or just a mistake on your part. However, Sun has backed Java-chips in the past, until they were found not to make much sense. Even so, Sun wasn't the first to have the idea- as far as I know, the Western Digital Microengine was the first to implement a bytecode instruction set, the Pascal p-code, as real hardware. Another idea that Sun certainly didn't think up, though people tend to give them more credit than is due to such "innovations."
It's an embedded chip which has a CLR on top of it. Nice idea, sorry that Sun thought of it earlier ( The Green Project) - Sun seems to be consistently missing the BUS here. They came up with "Network is the computer" and now MS is selling ".NET " :)
First, this Green Project doesn't seem to have any sort of Oak/Java co-processor/cpu-layer, at least not referenced in that page- it's just SPARC. Even so, Sun has backed the idea of a Java-chip. Java-chip or not, Sun wasn't the first to have such an idea. There was the Western Digital Microengine, though, which implemented Pascal p-code on hardware. Far before the abortion known as Java ever came to be.
Indeed, it'd be nice to have this for spices.
Management by itself seems like a why-bother issue to me. What I'd like is to have integration between this little ingredient database- including dry spices, perishables, frozen stuff, canned goods and everthing else- and a recipesdatabase, whether it's my personal list of recipes or something like the awesome allrecipes.com and webtender.com. I'd love to be able to go onto allrecipes and click a button labelled "give me a 5-course meal with what i have!" and have it generate those 5 courses based on my taste (derived from my ratings of other recipes on allrecipes.com, perhaps), and ratings other folks have given it, all using the materials i have already. Or perhaps, leave me only buying fresh rosemary and chicken breasts, etc. Having all this data is next to worthless for me... But *using* this data would be great.
I'd reccomend getting Card Export II. Not that I've ever used it- my Sony Clie NX70V has no problems like this. The Clie comes with this capability out of the box, and it works quite well. I don't ever bother to sync- I just put files on it using the USB Storage driver that comes with the Clie. I don't install using HotSync, I just copy a PRC to the \PALM\Launcher folder, or MP3s to the correct folder, etc etc.
Holy crap, no Alan Kay?! I mean, half of the people on that list wouldn't exist if it weren't for Alan Kay and the work he and the group he was with at Xerox PARC did.
No, the B5 characters didn't go around yelling "yeeeehaw" a lot. But they weren't a spaaaaaaace weeeeesterrrrrrn. Maybe next time around, JMS can correct that eh?
Further, he tends to drop very subtle hints about things that will feature in the plot much, much later (3 - 5 years wasn't unheard of with B5).
No joke. We just started watching Season 1 again- we watched seasons 1-5 as they came out on DVD. I'm amazed at how many little hints and foreshadows that JMS drops, even in the first few episodes. Indeed, some of these things don't pan out for years- but they really do set the stage mentally.
LegendotR wasn't that bad either- though it would've needed to improve a fair bit to keep from being cancelled at the end of the first season. I watched all of the episodes. One of the big factors that added to the suckiness was that TNT screwed the order up royally... Over at midwinter.net they've got info on the order they were supposed to be done in, but even watched in that order it's goofy, since they modified the plot, etc etc. But it could've been decent... No B5, but better than most.
Nope, B5 is the best. Firefly was great, and it had a *ton* of promise. As a first season, it was way above average. It kicked many an ass.
... powerful quality when you watch it, in order, first to last. Something I've not seen in any other TV show, including Firefly.
But with B5, we have seen it all, not just part of the first season. Maybe if FF had lived, maybe in 5 years after 5 seasons of Firefly, I'd be agreeing with you... But it was hardly more than a mini-series in practice.
Mmm... B5. We just started watching Season 1 again now that snow has fallen. B5 has a very
My first response to this is- go buy a Mac. They don't get as hot. Though I've heard that the G4s get a lot hotter- is this true? The only Mac laptop I've had is an iBook G3/500, which never got very warm at all. But then again, nor did my old Dell P75. But this "newer" 400 MHz Micron sure does- sucks in the summer. Sweaty legs. Nasty.
While there were a lot of similar models throughout time, I got you beat: I used to carry around a Tandy TRS-80 Model 4P. The "P" stands for Portable! Mine weighs 30+ pounds (still have it in the basement). I found it at goodwill for something like $4.50, and at the time it seemed like a good idea, but 16 year old nerds always think getting more computer junk is a good idea. A friend and I used to take turns taking it to our classes- mind you, this is in 1996, and this machine has been long obsoleted- and use it for taking notes. For some reason, the teachers were stuck between telling us to shut the damn thing off and thinking it a great use of "technology in the classroom." Every key you'd hit would cause a *beep.* Oh, those were the days...