Interesting, but I am willing to be they reinvented their business several times. I doubt they would have stayed in business using tools an techniques from 578.
Why do people keep fighting the Robocopy, I'll never know.
I agree. RoboCopy is a must for anyone administering a windows file server. If you are using a paid solution to backup file servers, you are crazy. Scheduled Tasks + VBScript + RoboCopy = Automated Backup Solution! Sadly however, that seems to be 2 too many "complicated" things for the averages Windows system admin to handle at once.
Agreed. Although the GP is right that caloric restriction and BMI are different, it would be logical that someone who partakes in calorie restriction would not be overweight but likely underweight. TFA says that those underweight were much more likely to die earlier and that would seem to be a contridiction (to the claim that calorie restriction can increase life expectancy). So back to OP's question, which is it? Few extra or few under?
First, let me congratulate you on some wonderfully circular logic.
Yes, he would have paid attention to anyone from that town. There can't be that many of them on myspace.
Opening your mouth too much isn't against the law./.ers should know this.
Now, you state that it should not affect employment unless it relates to your employment. SHE HAD ALREADY GRADUATED!!!! To say that the principal must stop doing anything when it involves an ex-student (and I assume their parents, sibling and good friends too, right?), would be to say that in a town of this size, he can't talk to, say anything about, bring up discussions about, purchase anything from, or do any business with anyone in that town! If he has had any length of tenure at all, he probably has a "business" relationship with the entire town.
I see nothing that he did that would render him any less capable of performing duties as a principal. In fact, I would say he taught the student body quite a lesson with this whole debacle.
So if you read this (as I originally did) with the belief that Campbell participated in the decision to represent the letter as a submission from Moreno, it stands to reason that Campbell should be fired as well.
So if we read it your way, huh? But we don't know that's how it happened. Also, even if it did, this is clearly unethical on the part of the editor, but I am not so sure that passing info to a newspaper constitutes abhorrently unethical behavior. His job has nothing to do with conforming to journalistic ethics, which seems to be where the problems lies (and it was ultimately the editors decision to, and how to publish, not the principal). I clearly understand why the editor was fired; I see no reason why the principal is considered for termination.
Apparently you missed or do not understand the phrases "making false representations", and "stealing a persons identity". People have gotten fired for a lot less. I think his actions qualify for more than a lot less.
http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2009/04/coalinga-newspaper-not-liable-for-running-myspace-rant112.html
From that link:
Moreno learned that Campbell had given the Ode to Pond before it was actually published, and she contacted Pond to ask her not to print it. According to Moreno, Pond said she would not publish it, but then changed her mind and did so.
The principal did not misrepresent or steal anyone's identity. He simply forwarded the info to the editor. Any chance you want to reconsider now?
Slashdot, where in one story the group harangues the though of stopping the ability to link to copyrighted material and in the next cuts down a man for sharing information posted to the internet. He may have just sent a link to her blog. I have yet to see that the principal did anything more than take a publicly available text and pass it onto someone else he knows. No where have I found any indication that he did it with any intention of running these people out of town. Please prove that before we hang the guy. If anything the editor should be the one you go after. She was contacted by the girl and asked not to publish the letter. She did anyways and was fired for it.
It certainly would change it. After she graduated these two no longer had the relationship of Teacher/Admin to Student. They were just like any other two citizens in the community. As an aside, I knew of a teacher that sent a students work to a publishing house without her knowledge. It was published and the student was greatful. I guess it is the outcome that really matters.
Apparently you can read a lot better than I. I didn't see either of those accusations in the actual summary; perhaps you think they happened, or have a better source, but it was never implied that he was the one that faked her identity (it could have been the paper). He may have simply sent the link or text.
And you still didn't really answer. What does his job/trade/profession have to do with this case? Why should anybody's job be affected by a copy/paste that may have had no ill will attached at all? We really need more details to make these calls.
Why should he be fired? She graduated long ago, he is no longer responsible for her. What he did may be wrong, maybe even against the law, but why would you fire him? His job seems to have little to do with the case; would you ask for his job if he was a manager at McDonalds and she was a former employee?
Your personal view is representative of a young, ignorant kid. Farrah was the greatest sex symbol in the US for over a decade. Jackson has the best selling album of all time. They were important figures in American culture and it is natural, and if I may, prudent, to recognize, celebrate and honor their contribution to our history. Even with all of Jackson's crazyness and trouble, he's still far more important, and likable, than your/. post. BTW, would you be so coy when a story breaks about the geek god Steve Jobs?
Yeah, our society is really effed up right now. It took the Supreme Court to finally find that the strip search of a 13 year old by a school administrator was wrong. And if you went up to that school and rightfully kicked the ass of the administrator (or whatever male was closest to the incident, of if your wife kicked the shit out of the female administrator), you would be in jail for a year or more.
Agreed. Also this "OSX is like XP PRO" is just crap. Sure it helps the comparison from their perspective, but it doesn't do justice to the situation. XP Home has just about all a home user needs. There is really no reason for someone not on a domain to own XP pro (geeks excluded). So please, start comparing it to the home version!
WTF do you need the actual data for? You don't know that a SSN is 9 numbers and possibly 2 dashes? Why do you need actual data on a computer that can be stolen?
Is privacy only measurable in a single moment? Does the idea of privacy include time? Does privacy erode when you constantly "don't invade privacy"? Basically, do these cameras (assume they put more than a few up, imagine your entire daily route covered with cameras) with their ability to "track" you and all your movements then actually become a privacy invasion? This is similar to the issue with GPS tracking... both are not traditional privacy issues, but technology is making us rethink the definition of privacy.
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Interesting, but I am willing to be they reinvented their business several times. I doubt they would have stayed in business using tools an techniques from 578.
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But seriously, 2 MILLION to clean up some viruses? I need to move to Manchester and become a consultant!
Why do people keep fighting the Robocopy, I'll never know.
I agree. RoboCopy is a must for anyone administering a windows file server. If you are using a paid solution to backup file servers, you are crazy. Scheduled Tasks + VBScript + RoboCopy = Automated Backup Solution! Sadly however, that seems to be 2 too many "complicated" things for the averages Windows system admin to handle at once.
Here is a great reference, with rsync and xxcopy as well.
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Agreed. Although the GP is right that caloric restriction and BMI are different, it would be logical that someone who partakes in calorie restriction would not be overweight but likely underweight. TFA says that those underweight were much more likely to die earlier and that would seem to be a contridiction (to the claim that calorie restriction can increase life expectancy). So back to OP's question, which is it? Few extra or few under?
First, let me congratulate you on some wonderfully circular logic.
/.ers should know this.
Yes, he would have paid attention to anyone from that town. There can't be that many of them on myspace.
Opening your mouth too much isn't against the law.
Now, you state that it should not affect employment unless it relates to your employment. SHE HAD ALREADY GRADUATED!!!! To say that the principal must stop doing anything when it involves an ex-student (and I assume their parents, sibling and good friends too, right?), would be to say that in a town of this size, he can't talk to, say anything about, bring up discussions about, purchase anything from, or do any business with anyone in that town! If he has had any length of tenure at all, he probably has a "business" relationship with the entire town.
I see nothing that he did that would render him any less capable of performing duties as a principal. In fact, I would say he taught the student body quite a lesson with this whole debacle.
So if you read this (as I originally did) with the belief that Campbell participated in the decision to represent the letter as a submission from Moreno, it stands to reason that Campbell should be fired as well.
So if we read it your way, huh? But we don't know that's how it happened. Also, even if it did, this is clearly unethical on the part of the editor, but I am not so sure that passing info to a newspaper constitutes abhorrently unethical behavior. His job has nothing to do with conforming to journalistic ethics, which seems to be where the problems lies (and it was ultimately the editors decision to, and how to publish, not the principal). I clearly understand why the editor was fired; I see no reason why the principal is considered for termination.
Apparently you missed or do not understand the phrases "making false representations", and "stealing a persons identity". People have gotten fired for a lot less. I think his actions qualify for more than a lot less.
http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2009/04/coalinga-newspaper-not-liable-for-running-myspace-rant112.html
From that link:
Moreno learned that Campbell had given the Ode to Pond before it was actually published, and she contacted Pond to ask her not to print it. According to Moreno, Pond said she would not publish it, but then changed her mind and did so.
The principal did not misrepresent or steal anyone's identity. He simply forwarded the info to the editor. Any chance you want to reconsider now?
Slashdot, where in one story the group harangues the though of stopping the ability to link to copyrighted material and in the next cuts down a man for sharing information posted to the internet. He may have just sent a link to her blog. I have yet to see that the principal did anything more than take a publicly available text and pass it onto someone else he knows. No where have I found any indication that he did it with any intention of running these people out of town. Please prove that before we hang the guy. If anything the editor should be the one you go after. She was contacted by the girl and asked not to publish the letter. She did anyways and was fired for it.
Until you realize that she wasn't a minor! DOH!
It certainly would change it. After she graduated these two no longer had the relationship of Teacher/Admin to Student. They were just like any other two citizens in the community.
As an aside, I knew of a teacher that sent a students work to a publishing house without her knowledge. It was published and the student was greatful. I guess it is the outcome that really matters.
Apparently you can read a lot better than I. I didn't see either of those accusations in the actual summary; perhaps you think they happened, or have a better source, but it was never implied that he was the one that faked her identity (it could have been the paper). He may have simply sent the link or text.
And you still didn't really answer. What does his job/trade/profession have to do with this case? Why should anybody's job be affected by a copy/paste that may have had no ill will attached at all? We really need more details to make these calls.
Why should he be fired? She graduated long ago, he is no longer responsible for her. What he did may be wrong, maybe even against the law, but why would you fire him? His job seems to have little to do with the case; would you ask for his job if he was a manager at McDonalds and she was a former employee?
Abraham Lincoln said: "If I had six hours to chop down a tree, I'd spend the first four hours sharpening the axe".
That is SO pre-Wal-Mart. Now I would just drive down the street and buy a new axe.
Your personal view is representative of a young, ignorant kid. Farrah was the greatest sex symbol in the US for over a decade. Jackson has the best selling album of all time. They were important figures in American culture and it is natural, and if I may, prudent, to recognize, celebrate and honor their contribution to our history. Even with all of Jackson's crazyness and trouble, he's still far more important, and likable, than your /. post. BTW, would you be so coy when a story breaks about the geek god Steve Jobs?
Yeah, our society is really effed up right now. It took the Supreme Court to finally find that the strip search of a 13 year old by a school administrator was wrong. And if you went up to that school and rightfully kicked the ass of the administrator (or whatever male was closest to the incident, of if your wife kicked the shit out of the female administrator), you would be in jail for a year or more.
Well, unlike your argument/hypothetical situation, a 13 year old can hold (their) water.
Agreed. Also this "OSX is like XP PRO" is just crap. Sure it helps the comparison from their perspective, but it doesn't do justice to the situation. XP Home has just about all a home user needs. There is really no reason for someone not on a domain to own XP pro (geeks excluded). So please, start comparing it to the home version!
WTF do you need the actual data for? You don't know that a SSN is 9 numbers and possibly 2 dashes? Why do you need actual data on a computer that can be stolen?
Out of curiosity, what do you think AD does that provides anything close to what the author is asking?
It's CIO.com, nothing they talk about has anything to do with IT!
It already is, goto a public library and access the WWW.
If the medium used to gain information has changed radically, couldn't the means of delivery also change?
Meh, it still delivered as the second line was redundant anyway.
Is privacy only measurable in a single moment? Does the idea of privacy include time? Does privacy erode when you constantly "don't invade privacy"? Basically, do these cameras (assume they put more than a few up, imagine your entire daily route covered with cameras) with their ability to "track" you and all your movements then actually become a privacy invasion? This is similar to the issue with GPS tracking... both are not traditional privacy issues, but technology is making us rethink the definition of privacy.