Would you mind telling me anything important about the "object?" Like maybe what the fuck it's for? Is it fission or fusion? Production or research? Why does it cost so much? God damn.
The people in charge of them have no respect for the voting public and vice versa. Continuing to struggle on as though these groups should be part of the same literary ecosystem is ridiculous. Whichever side you believe introduced a deleterious political bias to the genre, it's clear that they should really just be two different genres now. Let each clown in this circus go and make their own award ceremony with blackjack and hookers, and anyone left fighting over the Hugos can be safely ignored, as they were just there for the fight.
Putting a plaque on the moon made sense. We needed to show we'd made it that far.
Why do we need "the sum of human knowledge" up there, though? I mean, if aliens stop by to have a look when we're not around, they're probably not going to look at the moon first. It's orbiting something much more interesting.
If our country is automated enough that most people don't have to work, that 90% will accomplish nothing except fucking things up that the robots have to come fix when they leave.
Regarding menial labor, why do we need to worry about who will do that junk? Nobody needs to! The only reason unskilled labor is cheaper than robots who could do their job better this very minute is that there is an endless supply of people desperate to feed themselves at the cost of their health, sanity, and dignity. Even without UBI in place, that tipping point is fast approaching in many industries. What are you going to do with all those poor souls when nobody wants them for burger-flipping?
As for law enforcement... What are you smoking? There are legions of people thirsty for pretty authority who like to convince themselves they are driven to protect others. I eagerly await the day when we can safely stop allowing humans to enforce the law.
If UBI feels anything like being on disability, nobody wants it.
I am constantly on the brink of insolvency because, although the money will always be there, allowing me to use it on some frivolous bullshit, it stops if I do something sensible, like try to save some of it to get something that might actually improve my life or cushion against setbacks. So too for taking a job, during those periods when I feel I'd be able to handle it. If I went to work for the two or three months at a time I'd be able to manage it, my disability payments wouldn't restart for another six months, assuming that they don't decide I'm ineligible due to having worked. Making the size of "contribution to society" that I know I'm capable of would therefore leave me starving and homeless, rather than just stuck in a terrible house and scrambling to stretch my resources every month.
To make matters worse, disability payments aren't enough to cover market rent anywhere at all. You have to get section 8. No problem, right? You automatically qualify if you're disabled.
The waiting list is several years long, assuming it's even actually open. Good luck. Also, 100% of new programs are unit-based rather than voucher-based, meaning you basically can't move, ever, like you might want to do if you manage to find some kind of work you're actually capable of. You are tied permanently to the place you already live, just as peasants were in the feudal era.
Overall, living off SSI is degrading, frightening, and awful. It is the opposite of what the studies say UBI is like.
And I believe the studies. It is clear to me that as more jobs are replaced by automation, the People in Charge want the people "they're" feeding with "their" money to live like I do, rather than feeling secure and empowered. If anything like UBI is instituted in the United States, it will be carefully calibrated to provide as little and have as many rules as will be tolerated.
In twenty years, they will literally own you. The only way to stop this is revolution.
Like, it's not exactly click fraud, because you're not clicking, so the advertisers aren't paying for that. But an ad you're paid to watch is one they know you're explicitly not interested in, so I thought they didn't like that, either?
They have failed to curb violent extremism online because if it's online, it's almost entirely fake. If anyone disagrees with me, I'll melt them in a vat of acid and post cum tributes of their cleaned skeleton.
He recognizes that the value of social media is entirely created by the people who use it. Twitter, for example, has created basically nothing, or at the very least their contribution is negligible next to that of their user base. They just declared that they were a place to talk, and people showed up. The practical concern that creating a place to talk that can reach the entire world costs a pretty substantial amount of money still places Twitter's meaningful contribution to its own value very, very low compared to that of the users. The users create the content, and this guy believes that such creation should entitle them to a reward more substantial than gold star stickers. They should be able to make decisions about and profit from the platform they've made relevant.
I mean, I'd REALLY like a sex bot, it'd massively improve my life. But I cried when Spirit kicked the bucket. So, machine empathy is already pretty well covered. >_>
Too late to cash in on the final blow to the concept of employment and position themselves such that they can continue to create scarcity and become the arbiters of who will be fed and housed for the rest of human civilization.
I'm in a place that has such a robot. It's a safe bet it knows the way to go. It's an even safer bet that if it fails somehow, things are really bad, to the point I'd probably already be in serious trouble without the robot. I'm probably not going to be able to get out on my own. If I can't carry the robot, I'll stay with it; even if it has no connectivity, the metal thing is easier to find than I am, except to a dog.
Also, I like robots. I don't want anything bad to happen to it.
In other words, his model disproved itself, and this discussion is a waste of time that is simply waiting to be picked up by religious garbage collectors.
This is pretty much completely the opposite of the sort of thing he usually claims to be in favor of. I was thinking about probably not registering to vote so I could vote for him. What the shit?
Most Americans will happily allow everyone around them, including themselves, to starve rather than have their tax money (which they are no longer meaningfully producing) to be used to give people free shit. This nation will devolve into civil war before functional socialist support is created. The best we'll ever have is broken corporate welfare like Obamacare to placate the few people who actually admit to wanting social programs.
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Would you mind telling me anything important about the "object?" Like maybe what the fuck it's for? Is it fission or fusion? Production or research? Why does it cost so much? God damn.
The people in charge of them have no respect for the voting public and vice versa. Continuing to struggle on as though these groups should be part of the same literary ecosystem is ridiculous. Whichever side you believe introduced a deleterious political bias to the genre, it's clear that they should really just be two different genres now. Let each clown in this circus go and make their own award ceremony with blackjack and hookers, and anyone left fighting over the Hugos can be safely ignored, as they were just there for the fight.
Anything which would leave us in need of a backup that secure would also make said back up completely inaccessible.
Putting a plaque on the moon made sense. We needed to show we'd made it that far.
Why do we need "the sum of human knowledge" up there, though? I mean, if aliens stop by to have a look when we're not around, they're probably not going to look at the moon first. It's orbiting something much more interesting.
If our country is automated enough that most people don't have to work, that 90% will accomplish nothing except fucking things up that the robots have to come fix when they leave.
If employers are unwilling to provide favorable conditions for whatever-it-is, it must not be particularly important to do.
and now I just posted that twice because it looked like it was broken the first time
wtf is going on with this website today
>pretty authority
Someday, we will throw off the yoke of our oppressors, and Slashdot will allow us to edit our comments.
>pretty authority
Someday, we will throw off the shackles of our oppressors, and Slashdot will finally allow you to edit your comments.
Regarding menial labor, why do we need to worry about who will do that junk? Nobody needs to! The only reason unskilled labor is cheaper than robots who could do their job better this very minute is that there is an endless supply of people desperate to feed themselves at the cost of their health, sanity, and dignity. Even without UBI in place, that tipping point is fast approaching in many industries. What are you going to do with all those poor souls when nobody wants them for burger-flipping?
As for law enforcement... What are you smoking? There are legions of people thirsty for pretty authority who like to convince themselves they are driven to protect others. I eagerly await the day when we can safely stop allowing humans to enforce the law.
Oh, what the hell, I DID put one in that time! Fuck the mobile site!
it's fucking 2016, why do I still have to explicitly use the markup for something as simple as a goddamn carriage return
If UBI feels anything like being on disability, nobody wants it. I am constantly on the brink of insolvency because, although the money will always be there, allowing me to use it on some frivolous bullshit, it stops if I do something sensible, like try to save some of it to get something that might actually improve my life or cushion against setbacks. So too for taking a job, during those periods when I feel I'd be able to handle it. If I went to work for the two or three months at a time I'd be able to manage it, my disability payments wouldn't restart for another six months, assuming that they don't decide I'm ineligible due to having worked. Making the size of "contribution to society" that I know I'm capable of would therefore leave me starving and homeless, rather than just stuck in a terrible house and scrambling to stretch my resources every month. To make matters worse, disability payments aren't enough to cover market rent anywhere at all. You have to get section 8. No problem, right? You automatically qualify if you're disabled. The waiting list is several years long, assuming it's even actually open. Good luck. Also, 100% of new programs are unit-based rather than voucher-based, meaning you basically can't move, ever, like you might want to do if you manage to find some kind of work you're actually capable of. You are tied permanently to the place you already live, just as peasants were in the feudal era. Overall, living off SSI is degrading, frightening, and awful. It is the opposite of what the studies say UBI is like. And I believe the studies. It is clear to me that as more jobs are replaced by automation, the People in Charge want the people "they're" feeding with "their" money to live like I do, rather than feeling secure and empowered. If anything like UBI is instituted in the United States, it will be carefully calibrated to provide as little and have as many rules as will be tolerated. In twenty years, they will literally own you. The only way to stop this is revolution.
Like, it's not exactly click fraud, because you're not clicking, so the advertisers aren't paying for that. But an ad you're paid to watch is one they know you're explicitly not interested in, so I thought they didn't like that, either?
gdi, need to cancel a mod point
That would make their position sound pretty sensible.
They have failed to curb violent extremism online because if it's online, it's almost entirely fake. If anyone disagrees with me, I'll melt them in a vat of acid and post cum tributes of their cleaned skeleton.
He recognizes that the value of social media is entirely created by the people who use it. Twitter, for example, has created basically nothing, or at the very least their contribution is negligible next to that of their user base. They just declared that they were a place to talk, and people showed up. The practical concern that creating a place to talk that can reach the entire world costs a pretty substantial amount of money still places Twitter's meaningful contribution to its own value very, very low compared to that of the users. The users create the content, and this guy believes that such creation should entitle them to a reward more substantial than gold star stickers. They should be able to make decisions about and profit from the platform they've made relevant.
I mean, I'd REALLY like a sex bot, it'd massively improve my life. But I cried when Spirit kicked the bucket. So, machine empathy is already pretty well covered. >_>
Too late to cash in on the final blow to the concept of employment and position themselves such that they can continue to create scarcity and become the arbiters of who will be fed and housed for the rest of human civilization.
Yeah, Dogecoin is obviously the best.
I'm in a place that has such a robot. It's a safe bet it knows the way to go. It's an even safer bet that if it fails somehow, things are really bad, to the point I'd probably already be in serious trouble without the robot. I'm probably not going to be able to get out on my own. If I can't carry the robot, I'll stay with it; even if it has no connectivity, the metal thing is easier to find than I am, except to a dog.
Also, I like robots. I don't want anything bad to happen to it.
In other words, his model disproved itself, and this discussion is a waste of time that is simply waiting to be picked up by religious garbage collectors.
This is pretty much completely the opposite of the sort of thing he usually claims to be in favor of. I was thinking about probably not registering to vote so I could vote for him. What the shit?
Most Americans will happily allow everyone around them, including themselves, to starve rather than have their tax money (which they are no longer meaningfully producing) to be used to give people free shit. This nation will devolve into civil war before functional socialist support is created. The best we'll ever have is broken corporate welfare like Obamacare to placate the few people who actually admit to wanting social programs.