There's a huge difference between expecting your access provider to guarantee their service, and expecting them to guarantee the availability or quality (subjective) of the content transmitted over their service.
I think this was the main point of the thread. The guarantee means NOTHING if the actual service is crap. I can be guaranteed 3Mbit/s but if I only get 56Kbit/s for 23 hours 59 minutes, and the 3Mbit for 1 minute each a day, it's simply not true. Same as paying for HBO "movies 24/7", then discovering 8 to 12 hours are actually commercials, trailers or the movie I just watched 6 hours ago.
I think "go wrong" means when the Taliban murders the civilians named in the documents as cooperating with ISAF, which the Taliban has already promised to do.
I don't get this. What exactly do WE do when we discover spies in our midst ? Give them a hearty handshake and a congratulatory hug ?
They are spies for fucks sake... they know the risks just like anyone else engaged in a war. They aren't doing what they do because of some moral "higher ground"... they are doing it for basal urges like money, personal protection, drugs, whatever the CIA offers them (and then fails to deliver after the info has been passed).
If the US was in any way concerned about their overseas assets, why haven't they airlifted every last one back to the States to protect them ? No, they're not THAT concerned, they want to wait till the Taliban pick off a couple, then they can blame Assange for leaking the documents and causing civilian deaths.
Which soldiers are at risk ? The ones who were there in 2003 ?
Haven't they been relieved yet ? Or are you just abandoning them too, like you did with all the POWs in Vietnam 30 years ago ?
What happened to the "2009 change of strategy" that we keep hearing about ? I'd have thought a good strategy would be perhaps moving people around, and not leaving them in the same places they were in in 2003, and especially in places named in those documents.
Basically, "the security of soldiers" is so much fucking bullshit, to cover up the fact these documents expose the facts that the entire campaign has been a goddamn failure, with all your tech you still can't tell the difference between armed opponents and a school bus full of kids, and the Taliban are now stronger than ever, so much so that Kharzi's idea of buying them out will probably work out cheaper than the trillions the US has pissed up the wall.
My cable promised me about 60 channels... unfortunately they failed to mention that half of the programming is either commercials or trailers for other shows. So essentially I only have 30 channels to choose from at any given point.
If they said "up to 60 channels" it's possibly MORE honest in this case.
If by very little control, you mean oversubscribing the line by a factor of N, then okay, whatever.
The days of people only using the DSL in bursts to checkmail or grab a webpage are gone. In my house, we've got 3 towers and 2 laptops running off a wifi'd 3MB DSL.
At any moment, one or more of us will be streaming video or running torrents etc, so we're usually running at capacity 24/7 - which I have no qualms about whatsoever, as we were sold a 3MB package, not one of those silly "up to 3MB packages" - and for the most part we DO get what we paid for.
I guess my point is, they cannot oversubscribe the lines anymore, because it will mean an instant slowdown for everyone else.
and I've been doing it on/. for a lot longer than you've been around, newb.
US has been fucking around in Afghanistan for almost the same length of time... it doesn't make that right, either.
Playing the Low ID / calling people "newb" has got to be the saddest/. ploy ever. It's funny, you seem to imply that because you have a low ID, your style of post is somehow "more correct" than mine, and yet in your closing sentence, you state that other people don't have to obey my desires. But they should obey yours because of your low ID ?
"I've been here longer, so I'm right, and you're wrong, newb" seems to be the gist of your rebuttal.
I'm not saying you have to obey anything I say... what you do with your posts is entirely up to you, no matter how stupid you look.
All I'm saying is it irritates the fuck out of me (and presumably many others).
... to simple copyright infringement, are illegal IN CERTAIN JURISDICTIONS.
FTFY
Illegal in USA does not mean illegal everywhere, but you'd already know that because you're not one of those idiots who thinks English words like can have one and only one meaning.
How about Aspergers, the medical condition whereby you are a complete cunt to everyone you meet.
Or ADHD, attention deficit whatnot Facebook shiny bewbs what-was-I-saying ? That's always good for discussion, until you lose interest in explaining it to people.
You could try Tourettes, that even allows you to swear at your coworkers and bosses, and be congratulated for being a brave person.
There's plenty of "medical" conditions for people who are allergic to work.
Why are you convinced that schooling is the only way that someone can obtain an education?
Because the parents can't even teach them basic discipline and the difference between right and wrong for fear of their kids suing them ? Because there's a reason they are called teacher, guru, sensei, master ? Wisdom, and the passing of that wisdom from one generation to the next has always been respected as a sensible thing to do, as are the people who do it.
Or perhaps they'll go on a Huckleberry Finn kind of adventure, and learn about life from a large Black man, oh lordy I gone stole a pie. Ironically enough, if they ever end up in the penal system, they will learn quite a few things from large black men, but possibly wish they hadn't.
Knowing what I know now, I can see all kinds of ways that I could have put that time to better use
Had you spent your time in Information Technology 101 class better, you'd have know you don't need to sign or initial posts on message boards when your name is clearly displayed at the top.
But hey, we'll let it slide... no matter how much it irritates the fuck out of us.
No, you'll only notice the difference years later when your kidneys and glands start to fuck up through lack of essential minerals like Potassium and Magnesium.
Well said Sir, this was exactly the point I was trying to get across.
But of course, you'll always get the Liberal handwringers who don't want to discipline the little darlings, mustn't have physical contact, we must think of the children. Assholes.
If they'd thought a little more about the children, they'd realise that kids moral boundary system is related to how much their parents let them get away with, and the disciplinary system applied while they are in their formative years.
They learn the same way any mammal does, in an almost Pavlovian fashion.
Traditional value system building. Can I do X ? I don't know. Try doing X and see what happens. Mother tells me in a loud voice "NO". I cannot do X. X is bad.
1990+ value system building. Can I do X ? I don't know. Try doing X and see what happens. Mother tells me fuck all, because Mother is not even here. And even if she was here, she never shouts or smacks me because she's scared I'd sue her for mental or physical abuse. X might be bad, X might be good, I don't give a fuck because no one told me it was wrong or gave me any negative feedback when I did it.
I had a smack around the ear when I was a kid, once when I'd seriously fucked up... and surprisingly enough I didn't fuck up any further before becoming a normal adult human male with no hearing difficulties whatsoever !
As you said so succinctly, the parent is exactly what is wrong with todays world. I only hope to god, he or she is not actually a real parent. Some people should not be let into the gene pool, even at the shallow end.
The difference being the original Beatles songs were toneless crap... and all the editing was done in people's heads pretending that they'd all been masterpieces like John Lennon's 70's stuff.
Billy: Miss, miss, Johnny stole my toy. Teacher : Johnny, give Billy his toy, and 12 identical toys as damages. Billy : Can't I just have a clip around the ear and I'll learn my lesson ? Teacher : Oh lord no, we can't DISCIPLE children in school. You and your crazy ideas.
You see, 30 years ago, the clip around the ear worked more often than not, and we had a generation that grew up with at least some moral values. Now the only way to scare someone against doing bad things is not just bankrupt them once, but bankrupt them 12 times over muhahahaaaaaa...
Seriously, does it matter how much the award was ? After months of time and thousands in taxpayers money for judges, the court, all the ancilliary staff etc. wasted, the appeals court (after spending roughly the same amount of money again) will reduce the judgement to 27 dollars and 63 cents anyway.
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And without songbirds, we'd be overrun with dirty great spiders.
Seems to work for the Yanks.
Honor ?
Color ?
Who stole all the fucking 'u's ? Not to mention the rape that is committed to the letter 'h'
Onor ?
Erb ?
And what on earth do Canadians think they are doing ?
The word is Caramel, not Carmel.
You were saying ?
There's a huge difference between expecting your access provider to guarantee their service, and expecting them to guarantee the availability or quality (subjective) of the content transmitted over their service.
I think this was the main point of the thread. The guarantee means NOTHING if the actual service is crap. I can be guaranteed 3Mbit/s but if I only get 56Kbit/s for 23 hours 59 minutes, and the 3Mbit for 1 minute each a day, it's simply not true. Same as paying for HBO "movies 24/7", then discovering 8 to 12 hours are actually commercials, trailers or the movie I just watched 6 hours ago.
I think "go wrong" means when the Taliban murders the civilians named in the documents as cooperating with ISAF, which the Taliban has already promised to do.
I don't get this. What exactly do WE do when we discover spies in our midst ? Give them a hearty handshake and a congratulatory hug ?
They are spies for fucks sake ... they know the risks just like anyone else engaged in a war. They aren't doing what they do because of some moral "higher ground" ... they are doing it for basal urges like money, personal protection, drugs, whatever the CIA offers them (and then fails to deliver after the info has been passed).
If the US was in any way concerned about their overseas assets, why haven't they airlifted every last one back to the States to protect them ? No, they're not THAT concerned, they want to wait till the Taliban pick off a couple, then they can blame Assange for leaking the documents and causing civilian deaths.
Typical US bullshit, same as it's always been.
bork bork borked ?
I'm sorry but I don't understand your logic ?
Which soldiers are at risk ? The ones who were there in 2003 ?
Haven't they been relieved yet ? Or are you just abandoning them too, like you did with all the POWs in Vietnam 30 years ago ?
What happened to the "2009 change of strategy" that we keep hearing about ? I'd have thought a good strategy would be perhaps moving people around, and not leaving them in the same places they were in in 2003, and especially in places named in those documents.
Basically, "the security of soldiers" is so much fucking bullshit, to cover up the fact these documents expose the facts that the entire campaign has been a goddamn failure, with all your tech you still can't tell the difference between armed opponents and a school bus full of kids, and the Taliban are now stronger than ever, so much so that Kharzi's idea of buying them out will probably work out cheaper than the trillions the US has pissed up the wall.
My cable promised me about 60 channels ... unfortunately they failed to mention that half of the programming is either commercials or trailers for other shows. So essentially I only have 30 channels to choose from at any given point.
If they said "up to 60 channels" it's possibly MORE honest in this case.
If by very little control, you mean oversubscribing the line by a factor of N, then okay, whatever.
The days of people only using the DSL in bursts to checkmail or grab a webpage are gone. In my house, we've got 3 towers and 2 laptops running off a wifi'd 3MB DSL.
At any moment, one or more of us will be streaming video or running torrents etc, so we're usually running at capacity 24/7 - which I have no qualms about whatsoever, as we were sold a 3MB package, not one of those silly "up to 3MB packages" - and for the most part we DO get what we paid for.
I guess my point is, they cannot oversubscribe the lines anymore, because it will mean an instant slowdown for everyone else.
Drunk driving deaths (11,773) accounted for 32% of the total amount of United States car accident deaths (37,261) in 2008.
That means the other 68% of car accidents were caused by people who were perfectly sober. Think about that for a second.
Even if we made the drunk driving limit a strict 0.0 blood alcohol level, we'd only remove a third of fatalities.
Perhaps we need to tighten up on the number of idiots who patently cannot drive properly, even when sober.
Yes, and American Idol is the most popular TV show ... your point was ?
and I've been doing it on /. for a lot longer than you've been around, newb.
US has been fucking around in Afghanistan for almost the same length of time ... it doesn't make that right, either.
Playing the Low ID / calling people "newb" has got to be the saddest /. ploy ever. It's funny, you seem to imply that because you have a low ID, your style of post is somehow "more correct" than mine, and yet in your closing sentence, you state that other people don't have to obey my desires. But they should obey yours because of your low ID ?
"I've been here longer, so I'm right, and you're wrong, newb" seems to be the gist of your rebuttal.
I'm not saying you have to obey anything I say ... what you do with your posts is entirely up to you, no matter how stupid you look.
All I'm saying is it irritates the fuck out of me (and presumably many others).
... to simple copyright infringement, are illegal IN CERTAIN JURISDICTIONS.
FTFY
Illegal in USA does not mean illegal everywhere, but you'd already know that because you're not one of those idiots who thinks English words like can have one and only one meaning.
Raping and pillaging is just a side effect of being a pirate, it is in no way part of the definition.
I think the term you are looking for is "perks of the job".
The next week, we were banned from drinking from the water fountains and water colors were put in place.
And drinking paint made you better ?
They got attacked by someone holding a dictionary ?
I mean seriously, even for a country that is obsessed with me, me, me, trying to remove "u" from the alphabet is going a bit far.
Yes, it's always bothered me too, why they refer to "chemicals in the water" ?
Shouldn't that be "chemicals in the other chemicals with a way more scary sounding chemical name".
How about Aspergers, the medical condition whereby you are a complete cunt to everyone you meet.
Or ADHD, attention deficit whatnot Facebook shiny bewbs what-was-I-saying ? That's always good for discussion, until you lose interest in explaining it to people.
You could try Tourettes, that even allows you to swear at your coworkers and bosses, and be congratulated for being a brave person.
There's plenty of "medical" conditions for people who are allergic to work.
Why are you convinced that schooling is the only way that someone can obtain an education?
Because the parents can't even teach them basic discipline and the difference between right and wrong for fear of their kids suing them ? Because there's a reason they are called teacher, guru, sensei, master ? Wisdom, and the passing of that wisdom from one generation to the next has always been respected as a sensible thing to do, as are the people who do it.
Or perhaps they'll go on a Huckleberry Finn kind of adventure, and learn about life from a large Black man, oh lordy I gone stole a pie. Ironically enough, if they ever end up in the penal system, they will learn quite a few things from large black men, but possibly wish they hadn't.
Knowing what I know now, I can see all kinds of ways that I could have put that time to better use
Had you spent your time in Information Technology 101 class better, you'd have know you don't need to sign or initial posts on message boards when your name is clearly displayed at the top.
But hey, we'll let it slide ... no matter how much it irritates the fuck out of us.
No, you'll only notice the difference years later when your kidneys and glands start to fuck up through lack of essential minerals like Potassium and Magnesium.
It's a Space Station.
Maybe Billy is into SM ?
Look, I messed it up, alright ? Can you forgive me ?
Well said Sir, this was exactly the point I was trying to get across.
But of course, you'll always get the Liberal handwringers who don't want to discipline the little darlings, mustn't have physical contact, we must think of the children. Assholes.
If they'd thought a little more about the children, they'd realise that kids moral boundary system is related to how much their parents let them get away with, and the disciplinary system applied while they are in their formative years.
They learn the same way any mammal does, in an almost Pavlovian fashion.
Traditional value system building.
Can I do X ? I don't know. Try doing X and see what happens. Mother tells me in a loud voice "NO". I cannot do X. X is bad.
1990+ value system building.
Can I do X ? I don't know. Try doing X and see what happens. Mother tells me fuck all, because Mother is not even here. And even if she was here, she never shouts or smacks me because she's scared I'd sue her for mental or physical abuse. X might be bad, X might be good, I don't give a fuck because no one told me it was wrong or gave me any negative feedback when I did it.
I had a smack around the ear when I was a kid, once when I'd seriously fucked up ... and surprisingly enough I didn't fuck up any further before becoming a normal adult human male with no hearing difficulties whatsoever !
As you said so succinctly, the parent is exactly what is wrong with todays world. I only hope to god, he or she is not actually a real parent. Some people should not be let into the gene pool, even at the shallow end.
The difference being the original Beatles songs were toneless crap ... and all the editing was done in people's heads pretending that they'd all been masterpieces like John Lennon's 70's stuff.
Billy: Miss, miss, Johnny stole my toy.
Teacher : Johnny, give Billy his toy, and 12 identical toys as damages.
Billy : Can't I just have a clip around the ear and I'll learn my lesson ?
Teacher : Oh lord no, we can't DISCIPLE children in school. You and your crazy ideas.
You see, 30 years ago, the clip around the ear worked more often than not, and we had a generation that grew up with at least some moral values. Now the only way to scare someone against doing bad things is not just bankrupt them once, but bankrupt them 12 times over muhahahaaaaaa ...
Seriously, does it matter how much the award was ? After months of time and thousands in taxpayers money for judges, the court, all the ancilliary staff etc. wasted, the appeals court (after spending roughly the same amount of money again) will reduce the judgement to 27 dollars and 63 cents anyway.