Lost Star Wars Scene In the Wild
Someone managed to get a clip on-line of the lost Star Wars scene from Jedi where Luke is shown crafting his Lightsaber. The full clip will apparently be included on the Blu-ray box set expected to come out in 2011. Hit the link below to see what is circulating. It's not much, but it looks real. Can't wait to see what they include in the 2015 version.
Update: 08/16 22:44 GMT by S : Lucasfilm complained, and YouTube took the video down.
Update: 08/16 22:44 GMT by S : Lucasfilm complained, and YouTube took the video down.
Wake me up when he puts out the one where Han shoots first.
In the 2015 version, the bartender shoots first.
I saw clips from the 3D Star Wars IV at the 2008 SIGGRAPH in Los Angeles. They looked pretty good. They were being "dimensionalized" from the original 1977 by some contractor. All I heard was that George is perfectionist and the state of dimensionalization had not yet met his standards.
Before you pooh-pooh these geeks/nerds for having orgasms about something so trivial, remember they were in an auditorium full of people.
When people are in a crowd situation trying to have fun, they will cheer or boo the most inane things to get the energy going and enhance their shared experience.
"Get out of that cave! Are you polishing your Lightsaber again? You know she's your sister, right?"
The world is made by those who show up for the job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XczClAxhCEM
Given it was introduced by Mark Hamilll and George Lucas, I'm thinking so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTt-R0BxJn0
Luuuke!!! Yeeeahhhhhh! Bloody children.
This "leak" aught to fan the flames of hype for yet another re-issuing of the SAME movies you all already have. So hurray! Let's all celebrate another billion dollars for George Lucas! And watch, as an entire generation of nerds continues to allow itself to be defined by the endless marketing and hype over some mediocre movies that aren't even really science fiction (Star Wars has far more in common with fantasy movies like the lord of the rings than it does actual science fiction like 2001). Pathetic.
Luke Skywalker playing with his light saber on Chat Roulette!
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He won't be satisfied until 3D distance perception turns Chewbacca into the Ewok he always intended?
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I have to admit, it's quite embarrassing to see people in that theater get so excited about this. It's neat, but it's far from being something so profound to Star Wars canon that it make sense for people to go nuts about it. It isn't even actual assembly, it's Luke poking at the hilt with exaggerated sound effects added.
I'd argue that it's as ridiculous as people getting worked up over the winner of American Idol. But then, that's just me.
Thousands of thirty five year old men, waiting days, even months, for just a taste of George Lucas's table scraps.
It looked a little like he was fabricating a self igniting bong.
Really, a whole 15 seconds (and about as many words) for the $75 collector's edition?
I know we grew-up with it, but there's never going to be anything new until we STOP paying for the same old stuff.
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When the theatrical releases were made available on DVD (basically nothing but a rip of the laser discs) I picked them up since my VHS tapes were on death's door. I expect that's the best Han shot first release we'll ever get and as such that's the end of the road for me.
Pasting Hayden Christensen into the end of Return of the Jedi was the last piece of George Lucas scat I could handle. I didn't even see those. I saw a YouTube video of it before it was released and was just like, "Okay, I'm done." (Although, I was basically done at the point I heard Darth Fucking Vader say, "Is Padme all right?" Then the infamous, "NOOOOOOOOOO!" Even thinking about the journey from Anakin to Vader makes my skin crawl now.
There were instructables and makezine and hackaday.
... as it's not the missing Santa Droid scene from the Star Wars Holiday Special!
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... but there was a reason it was left on the cutting room floor. Maybe it added too much of a somber tone, or maybe it was deemed redundant when vader later notes that skywalker had created a lightsaber. The real question ... how long can this franchise hold out when the last episode of any quality was made twenty years ago? Is anyone else bored by this franchise now? And when will it finally, mercifully, be put down?
It looks like they used a puppet for the close up. You see his nose and his chin... looks different from what Hamill looked like (Seriously, just Google RotJ Mark Hamill.. even factoring in the shadows.. doesn't look like his chin, upper lip, and nose). The movement looks stiff... like they tilted the head of damned puppet. They did the ol' Swedish Chef... puppet body, real hands.
"The never-before-seen 56-second clip..."
This sounds like the DLC of movies.
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This clip looks like something from the prequels. Didn't Lucas already ruin the original trilogy enough with the special editions that he feels he ought to add every piece of celluloid collected off of the cutting room floor?
Will whomever repairs the garbage compactor at Lucas's ranch, please be kind enough to put the hack of a film maker and his star wars franchise in it?
Looks like they reused footage already filmed, got a new voice over from James Earl Jones, and filmed a double for Hamill with his face obscured.
How about in 2017 for the 40 year release, they re-release 1-3 and scrap with content that doesn't suck....maybe some miniatures and furry costumes and ditch all that nonsense CGI ...and can somene shoot Jar-Jar first?
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I remember seeing the saber construction in the ROTJ novelization as a kid thinking it was a cool bit, but in the flow of the film it makes no sense. I can see why it was cut, or more likely why it was newly created. If this had been in the film you would have the "big moment" of Vader informing his welcoming party the Emperor is coming to check on the Death Star 2 construction. Big fanfare music. Then Vader goes downstairs "Luke... Luke... Join the Dark Side...." ending the scene on a much weaker note. After all, Vader says almost nothing but "Join the dark side" during the final act, so this is redundant. Then we see Luke setting a plan in motion that undermines the tension when hologram Luke offers the droids as a gift, now that we have foreknowledge that he built a saber (as presumably gave it to the droids). I wonder if this is an actual deleted scene or something new to build hype and sell Blu-Rays. After all, Vader in a hallway that could have been built on a shoestring. I've seen bigger shots done for SW fan films. A possible outtake of him on an elevator, followed by an alternate take of him in his meditation chamber. Wipe to a very cloaked Luke, where we only see a hint of his face. Since we barely see his face and he never changes expression it could be Hamill's face digitally painted over a stand-in. The cave is nothing but shadow. The entrance, exterior, and C3PO could all be a digital composite. My gut tells me this is more 2010 than 1982.
As I won't be purchasing this until that happens.
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http://www.starwarsuncut.com/ - fan remake of episode IV, shot by shot.
amusing, awesome and scary all at once, well 15 seconds at a time.
NERDS!!!
Kind of true here. They're running a little thin on marketable materials if the scene addition is a short little 15-30 second clip that adds nothing to the plot. There are probably a few more deleted scenes that will be released in the next ten years.
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For me, it's a complete turnoff. I went to see the digitized releases of IV, V, and V in the theaters in the late '90s. It took away from the movies. Then they keep changing things within the scenes. Han shot first. Live with it. After I, II, and III came out, they removed the original ghost of Vader at the end of Return of the Jedi and replaced him with the Canadian actor that played Anakin Skywalker in II and III. WHY?
As Mel Brooks pointed out 23 years ago, it's all along the lines of "Moichandizing! Moichandizing!". They know that they have a franchise that they can milk for years to come. Some sci-fi geeks take things a little too far, and where there is this amount of submission, you can bet that the pocket books are open. Don't get me started about my small collection of pewter TNG starships.
This is a continuation of the light saber construction scene. It shows where Luke just can't get his scratch built version to work, says "fuck it!" and orders one off the shelf from Dell.
Hmmmm... what website are you on?
You'd think by ROTJ Lucas would have thought with all the impending fandom to keep a good ten or more short clips like this to keep the money rolling in with each successive edition of Star Wars.
Anyone reminded of that Simpsons episode where company making the dolls Lisa likes introduce a tiny hat alongside a 'new' doll, and people in their droves rush to buy the same old thing with just a trivial scrap added in?
It's pretty sad that after the prequels people can still get so excited over 15 or so seconds of Luke handling his lightsabre. It's baffling and kind of sad that there's all this cheering and enthusiatic shouting over a mundane snippet like this.
I think it's safe to say we all got the gist of the plot from the original scenes in the movie. This really doesn't do anything for the overall plot. While it's a nice thought to have a scene about building a lightsaber, having Luke put a screwdriver inside his lightsaber and then turning it on doesn't really seem to count as building a lightsaber...more like beta testing it. Now a montage with him gathering bits and pieces for the lightsaber and assembling, that would be more interesting...although I don't think I'd put out another $30-$50 bucks just for that.
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Thanks guys. I always thought I was a geek before I read the comments here - all for 56 seconds of "extra" content for a 27-year-old film.
I'd now like to hand my geek-card in to someone who has a greater need for it.
This clip was in yesterday's Slashdot story about Star Wars Bluray.
Been there. Done that.
Seen the clip and saved it to dh0:
Oh and here's your rickroll - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHCCU8kl864
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Star Wars totally won over Blade Runner on derivative editions. To balance things, they should save Han Solo reputation and show that what really happened is that Rick Deckard shoot first.
Search YouTube for Star Wars revisited. A fan by the name of adywan has created his own Special Editions of the original trilogy ...including The Imperial March into the Battle of Yavin IV, as well as there actually being thirty Rebel ships to count (and a bucketload more in the dogfighting department) are included. Episode IV is available in its entirity in 13 parts.
As a teaser, here is the beginning of the battle (YouTube video) showing the DVD version and adywan's version. Notice the engines are now red instead of pink, the increase in ship numbers as mentioned above, and how the gas giant of Yavin is now viewable in cockpit scenes. The annoying discrepancy with the screen countdown (where '7 minutes' to the Rebel base was shown as 18 seconds, counting in 1/24ths of a second) has also been corrected.
Shiny. Let's be bad guys...
The ROTJ lightsaber scene isn't the only new piece of footage going into the BluRay disc set. It's just the one he showed at Celebration V.
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
Where would this have been in the actual movie? Seems like it would have to be right at the start so really not a very interesting way to start things.
Interesting that they added the blade special effect. Either this was cut very late or they added the special effects for the cutscene.
Just like in E.T. where they digitally replaced the cops' guns with walkie-talkies, they're going to replace the light-sabers with "touch-sticks". Oh, that and lots of overlays of Jar-Jar walking along side the characters talking to them.
He is building weapons while hiding out in a cave, wearing robe-like clothing, fighting to uphold his religion against "the evil empire."
Don't get me started about my small collection of pewter TNG starships. :)
I'll only be impressed if they're life-size.
It's been known as "New Hope" since the re-release of 1981.
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I can just watch them on "Spike TV" every three weeks.
As long as there are people who will yell "YEAHHHHH !!", cheer over nothing, and flock to pay money for this stuff, George Lucas will continue to do it. He's proven who he is over the years. I am embarrassed for him and everyone involved. ...and a little for myself, for even bothering to comment on it. I am honestly shocked that people are still that enthralled with Star Wars. I grew out of it when I was a kid, and lost all interest after Episode 1 came out.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
Furthermore, it's actually a fairly dramatic, brief scene with good imagery, so you know some one else made it (Lucas doesn't have that talent any more).
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The ROTJ lightsaber scene isn't the only new piece of footage going into the BluRay disc set. It's just the one he showed at Celebration V.
See?
This clip never made it into the films because it serves no purpose and would drag the pacing of the movie down (even more so then the jarring re-edited dance number). Where would the clip be put in? As all good Star Wars fans know, the camera always starts in space on with the bad guys (at least in the original trilogy, apparently the director of I, II and III didn't get that note). So this scene would need to be sandwiched between Darth Vader threatening his commander to step up Death Star construction and the droids approaching Jabba's palace. But all that would do is ruin Luke and his Green lightsabers big reveal. If his face is shown even partly here, there is no reason he should be shrouded in his hood and cape when he enters the palace. There was the big reveal of Luke in IV where he steps in close on his farm, then in V we see him ride in close to the camera and pull off his scarf and in VI when he pulls off the hood to talk with Jabba. Besides, three years of planning went into rescuing Han. With all that happened in that rescue it would seem to me that he shouldn't be building his lightsaber an hour before he has to go threaten an interstellar mob boss.
And what's with Vader's terrible dialogue. "Luke, Join me, it's the only way". The only way for what? Yes yes, probably the only way to rule the galaxy as father and son, but it's the beginning of a movie, the script needs to provide a little back story.
On the other hand, the toy collectors will be happy because you can now make Lightsaber Building Luke and Waiting For Luke Outside the Cave C-3P0.
Yes, there's been a movie named that out since 1981, and that's made it very hard to get the actual movie "Star Wars" any more.
Han shot first, Jabba looked different, various other scenes were later "improved", etc.
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But you're missing the part where suckers who buy the blu-ray disc are given free silicone skins because the blu-ray drops calls when they hold it in their sweaty palms.
I need trepanation like I need a hole in the head.
for a guy who seems to be all about technology, why are his movies always way late to the next-gen format?
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Thank goodness. I'm not the only who hated this.
Obi-Wan: These aren't the scenes you're looking for.
Stormtrooper: These aren't the scenes we're looking for.
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Stormtrooper: You can go about your business.
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I hope they include the sand storm scene, I believe there was also supposed to be more footage about whichever character it was that was supposed to be Luke's friend back home (Wedge???).
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Due to a copyright claim by Lucasfilm. Must've been the real thing then :).
It's a nice little scene, and I'd liked to have seen it in Jedi.
For that matter, I don't know if I could sit through the original Jedi again. The Ewoks GRATED on me the first time through, and repeated viewings just made it worse.
I have this fantasy where Lucas somehow loses control over the films, and all six of them are recut and the FX completely redone under the supervision of someone with taste. The original three would grow in running time, (except perhaps Jedi, which needed about half the Ewok scenes cut) and the three prequels would shrink to two films. Space battles would get simpler, ground battles would be completely redone with better points of view and better camera work (with the exception of the arena scene, which stood on it's own). The first film would have less slobber and less cuteness. Jake Lloyd's part would be a walk-on, and Hayden Christensen's screen time would be cut by about a third. Principle actors would be called back to rework some of that terrible dialog, and to come up with a less moronic reason for Amidala's passing.
But it's just a fantasy.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
I think he should be more concerned that using his OTHER hand might cut the bloodline of Skywalker short...
Any mirrors?
NERDS!!!
The sad part is that you think this is an insult here =)
It's like yelling "GAY!!!" at a rainbow parade =p
NERDDDDD PRIDE!!!
*ahem*
If Luke Skywalker had built his own lightsaber in our galaxy, he would get a cease and desist.
I didn't get to see it... and as an old Star Wars fan, who first saw it in the Paramount Theater in Mason City, IA, during it's first run, PAID FOR 26 CONSECUTIVE SHOWINGS during it's run there, bought the FIRST VHS tapes out and wore them out, spent thousands of hours building the plastic models you charged so much for, went and saw all of the first trilogy in the theaters many times, vhs, and even, even!!! despite my misgivings, went and paid to see the "prequels" at least twice each in the theater just so nobody could say I didn't know what was going on.... etc, etc, after this and the last article here about Lucas, all I have to say is
FUCK YOU AND YOUR GREEDY BULLSHIT, GEORGE. OH, AND FUCK YOU FOR YOUR "SPECIAL EDITION" TOO. Han shoots first, because he's HAN SOLO, the smuggler, all around scoundrel, and independent human being. I LIKED HIM THE WAY HE WAS. TAKE YOUR POLITICALLY CORRECT BANTHA POODOO AND YOURSELF AND CRUSH THEM IN A WASTE DISPOSAL UNIT ALONG WITH YOUR SITH LAWYERS THEN FEED THE RESULTING GOO TO THE SARLACC.
I think we can certainly dispel any doubts about whether or not Lucas's Sith Army of lawyers monitors the web.
It's kind of funny, you know - Star Wars was all about fighting oppression in the form of an evil empire. Then Lucas joins one.... or creates one, that line is pretty blurry...
Also - and this is rather ironic, really - Google stands up to China's EvIL EmPiRE (TM), but can't stand up to the Lucas/Hollywood Empire.
In any case, it doesn't matter. It was up long enough that many people would have ripped the video from Youtube, converted it, and it'll be all over the web in many forms in hours, if it isn't already (haven't checked yet, had to comment on it first *g*)
Let's see Lucas's Empire put a C&D on THAT.
The more web servers you attempt to influence, Lucas, the more copies will slip thru your fingers...
Long live the Rebellion!
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Darn. I was hoping this was a LOST Star Wars scene... that is, Hurley's 1977 remake (before George Lucas' original) of The Empire Strikes Back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9Dk4H8lHa8
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I saw this clip over the weekend before it was pulled from YouTube. As others have mentioned, it doesn't advance the plot, and it's established later on that Luke built his own lightsaber to replace the one he lost in Episode V, but I, for one, am looking forward to it being inserted into Episode VI. The tone of the scene is more in line with Episode V--something that could only help Episode VI.
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I don't believe that the new scenes are completely original.
The shots of Vader and C-3PO have been confirmed when fans have talked to the actors, and there are several pictures from the '80s of those sets.
However, the shots of Mark Hamill as Luke Skywalker building the lightsaber is dubious.
Mark Hamill has previous to Celebration V been asked many times by fans about the scene, and each time, mr Hamill has denied ever doing that scene.
The only part of the last part of that scene that could be original would be C-3PO, but Anthony Daniels has said (to me, in person) that he was the only actor in that shot. According to him, the idea for the scene came very very late in the production. It was in fact, the last scene ever shot and they did not get the time to shoot the part with Luke in it.
The time of the revelation of this new scene coincides perfectly with an announcement of a new collectible lightsaber replica from eFX. I can definitely see the marketing reasons for announcing the "deleted" scene ...
"We mustn't be caught by surprise by our own advancing technology" -- Aldous Huxley
Wait, I thought the only reason the DeathStar II blew up was because Luke and Vader threw the Emperor into the reactor core! Did I make that up?
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