I take my hat off to the UK Gov. for completely missing the point by several thousand miles.
Yes, images of child abuse (and a hell of a lot of other images on the net) are nasty.
But hiding them from public view is pointless... did they learn nothing from 1930's prohibition in terms of the effectiveness of "banning something". All they will succeed in doing is pushing the problem underground, while at the same time telling the general populace "look at what a good job we are doing".
In the mean time, a new culture of underground sharing of these kinds of images will emerge, "nasty pics" will become the new drug of the masses, and the only ones to profit will be the sick bastards who create and distribute the stuff in the first place. Because everyone knows that the demand for illicit material always comes with a higher price tag. What a wonderful way to encourage entrepreneurship.
In terms of how the ISPs will actually implement this, I wonder what tech they are using ? Grepping the filenames for keywords ? Yes, very effective, because everyone knows that these have filenames like "sick_kiddy_porn1.jpg" <sarcasm>
Is this limited to JPG, GIF and PNG ? Then the pushers will simply wrap them in ZIP or RAR archives, password protected, and no one will be any the wiser right ?
Or I wonder if this is the new "job creation" scheme that Gordon Brown was talking about ? Employing 1000's of do-gooders to manually flag offensive images and add them into a database somewhere of blacklisted items ?
I'm not condoning this kind of crap, but trying to "hide" it from the public is NOT the way to do it. Have we come to such a point where investigative and law enforcement agencys are so hopeless, that we will no longer investigate crime, simply try to hide as much of it from the public view, so the stats look better ?
Oh, I tend to blame kdawson for everything. In the long run, it saves a lot of time, as false positives are minimal.
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Netiquette Nazis, please lower your bayonets. I know I said "in IRL", and yes I DO know it's redundant.
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IRL = In Real Life !
Example, I'd maybe say "She's my daughter in IRL", as I often play MMORPGs online together with my kids. I'd never say "She's my daughter AFK"... She's my daughter when I'm away from the keyboard ? What kind of sense does that statement have ?
AFK = I'm going for a piss, be back in 5 minutes, don't kill that dragon without me etc.
At least, that's the context I've always associated with them.
YMMV.
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Seems like someone got modded into oblivion just recently and has a chip on his shoulder.
AND, I'll probably get +5 insightful for it, because it is !
It would seem that Dictionary.com disagrees with you.
-verb (used with object) 5. to exert power or influence on. 6. to provide with leverage. 7. to invest or arrange (invested funds) using leverage.
Also Merriam-Webster Online
Main Entry: leverage Function: transitive verb Inflected Form(s): leveraged; leveraging Date: 1957 1: to provide (as a corporation) or supplement (as money) with leverage ; also : to enhance as if by supplying with financial leverage 2: to use for gain : exploit <shamelessly leverage the system to their advantage -- Alexander Wolff>
Also Cambridge University Press Online
leverage (BORROWING) verb [T] SPECIALIZED to use borrowed money to buy a company
Yahoo are like encylopedia salesmen. Or possibly drug pushers. Or possibly just horribly deluded that anyone would want their spyware^H^H^H^H^H^H^Htoolbar at all ?
You try to install Yahoo Messenger, "wanna toolbar ? uncheck box to NOT install it"
You sign up for a Yahoo Mail account, "wanna toolbar ? uncheck box to NOT install it"
You join a Yahoo Group, "wanna tollbar ? uncheck box to NOT install it"
Yes, it is largely IE's fault that there are so many non-conforming sites out there
Yes, because MS were responsible for both the whole mess and the whole mess, weren't they ? I remember there was NS4, which sucked balls at a time everyone was getting excited about DHTML, and MSIE4 which did a lot to resolve those problems.
Then along comes w3c, announces that THEY will be the standard bearer (heavily influenced by Mozilla, the makers of the netscape engine)... but it was MS who "broke the web". Okay...
Gold (like any other precious commodity) is worth exactly how much people are willing to pay for it. And the reason they pay so much is precisely because it is precious i.e. there is a limited quantity of it going around.
You start bringing back 50 tons at a time (and making a tidy 1 billion profit), and you'll see that the price of gold drops through the floor and it would quickly become as worthless as oil currently is.
So no it probably ISN'T commercially viable, at least once the gold buyers figure out what your doing.
Perhaps the US could do a facebook search for Mr Bin Laden, and actually FIND the f****r ?
I find it unbelieveable that after all this time, NO ONE knows where he is (or at least no one bribeable with enough USD knows where he is), yet he still manages to put out audio and video tapes, and post to Al Jazeera.
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I take my hat off to the UK Gov. for completely missing the point by several thousand miles.
Yes, images of child abuse (and a hell of a lot of other images on the net) are nasty.
But hiding them from public view is pointless ... did they learn nothing from 1930's prohibition in terms of the effectiveness of "banning something". All they will succeed in doing is pushing the problem underground, while at the same time telling the general populace "look at what a good job we are doing".
In the mean time, a new culture of underground sharing of these kinds of images will emerge, "nasty pics" will become the new drug of the masses, and the only ones to profit will be the sick bastards who create and distribute the stuff in the first place. Because everyone knows that the demand for illicit material always comes with a higher price tag. What a wonderful way to encourage entrepreneurship.
In terms of how the ISPs will actually implement this, I wonder what tech they are using ? Grepping the filenames for keywords ? Yes, very effective, because everyone knows that these have filenames like "sick_kiddy_porn1.jpg" <sarcasm>
Is this limited to JPG, GIF and PNG ? Then the pushers will simply wrap them in ZIP or RAR archives, password protected, and no one will be any the wiser right ?
Or I wonder if this is the new "job creation" scheme that Gordon Brown was talking about ? Employing 1000's of do-gooders to manually flag offensive images and add them into a database somewhere of blacklisted items ?
I'm not condoning this kind of crap, but trying to "hide" it from the public is NOT the way to do it. Have we come to such a point where investigative and law enforcement agencys are so hopeless, that we will no longer investigate crime, simply try to hide as much of it from the public view, so the stats look better ?
Oh, I tend to blame kdawson for everything. In the long run, it saves a lot of time, as false positives are minimal.
Netiquette Nazis, please lower your bayonets. I know I said "in IRL", and yes I DO know it's redundant.
IRL = In Real Life !
Example, I'd maybe say "She's my daughter in IRL", as I often play MMORPGs online together with my kids. I'd never say "She's my daughter AFK" ... She's my daughter when I'm away from the keyboard ? What kind of sense does that statement have ?
AFK = I'm going for a piss, be back in 5 minutes, don't kill that dragon without me etc.
At least, that's the context I've always associated with them.
YMMV.
Seems like someone got modded into oblivion just recently and has a chip on his shoulder.
AND, I'll probably get +5 insightful for it, because it is !
In Soviet Russia, old jokes rehash you !
Now STFU until you grow a sense of humour, or at least a sense of irony.
I'm not sure if that indicates superior marketing skills, or just the general idiocy of the population ?
HAI
CAN HAZ PROXY ?
KTHXBAI
(Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.) ... um no, it's called LOLCODE, get with the program, you stupid filter !!!
It would seem that Dictionary.com disagrees with you.
-verb (used with object)
5. to exert power or influence on.
6. to provide with leverage.
7. to invest or arrange (invested funds) using leverage.
Also Merriam-Webster Online
Main Entry: leverage
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): leveraged; leveraging
Date: 1957
1: to provide (as a corporation) or supplement (as money) with leverage ; also : to enhance as if by supplying with financial leverage
2: to use for gain : exploit <shamelessly leverage the system to their advantage -- Alexander Wolff>
Also Cambridge University Press Online
leverage (BORROWING)
verb [T] SPECIALIZED
to use borrowed money to buy a company
But I guess they're ALL ASSHOLES TOO EH ?????
Yahoo are like encylopedia salesmen. Or possibly drug pushers. Or possibly just horribly deluded that anyone would want their spyware^H^H^H^H^H^H^Htoolbar at all ?
You try to install Yahoo Messenger, "wanna toolbar ? uncheck box to NOT install it"
You sign up for a Yahoo Mail account, "wanna toolbar ? uncheck box to NOT install it"
You join a Yahoo Group, "wanna tollbar ? uncheck box to NOT install it"
Ad nauseum.
Aww come ON !!!
We need to be able to mod to +10 Funny ... had me in stitches this one.
Thankfully, users aren't buying it.
Well they don't need to, it comes bundled free with their O/S.
The whole <frames> mess and the whole <layer> mess !!
Damnit, why doesn't "Plain Old Text" respect my < and > ???
Yes, it is largely IE's fault that there are so many non-conforming sites out there
Yes, because MS were responsible for both the whole mess and the whole mess, weren't they ? I remember there was NS4, which sucked balls at a time everyone was getting excited about DHTML, and MSIE4 which did a lot to resolve those problems.
Then along comes w3c, announces that THEY will be the standard bearer (heavily influenced by Mozilla, the makers of the netscape engine) ... but it was MS who "broke the web". Okay ...
(There goes my Excellent Karma) :-(
Helping advise == Had a business lunch together.
Gold (like any other precious commodity) is worth exactly how much people are willing to pay for it. And the reason they pay so much is precisely because it is precious i.e. there is a limited quantity of it going around.
You start bringing back 50 tons at a time (and making a tidy 1 billion profit), and you'll see that the price of gold drops through the floor and it would quickly become as worthless as oil currently is.
So no it probably ISN'T commercially viable, at least once the gold buyers figure out what your doing.
Finally, I get to say it :-)
Whoooooosh
Your wife put starch in your collar again ?
That's a mighty red neck you've got there.
Surely now that the two satellites have collided and fallen into Siberia, there are two LESS pieces of junk floating around in the atmosphere ?
Wouldn't that make the risk of collision with the Hubble LESS likely ?
How many times do YOU have to be told that the American DMCA laws do NOT apply in Sweden ?
Try searching Google for "[latest movie] torrent".
So we will sue Google next yes for "facilitating in copyright infringement" ?
Nonsense ... that's like me selling hamburgers outside a brothel, because I know there's a regular stream of customers.
Perhaps the US could do a facebook search for Mr Bin Laden, and actually FIND the f****r ?
I find it unbelieveable that after all this time, NO ONE knows where he is (or at least no one bribeable with enough USD knows where he is), yet he still manages to put out audio and video tapes, and post to Al Jazeera.
No, it's more like telling Jews NOT to nuke the Gaza Zoo in case there's any Muslim antelopes in there.
I've found that if you just hold yourself back, and DON'T reply to any thread regarding Apple, the fanbois won't mod you into karma hell.