I'd rather people who start businesses stay in their area of expertise (business). Why would you want to take a productive person away from producing?
- well, people who produce are the ones disproportionately hurt by the decisions made in politics, so obviously they should be seeking ways to minimize the damage.
You want people who never worked in private sector to be in government, I think people who never worked in private sectors shouldn't even be allowed to vote, never mind working in government.
- oh? Because the young are so much more knowledgeable and have so much more experience than somebody who is say twice their age.
If you genuinely believe the young can never have anything to offer as elected political representatives then I think that's more a sad reflection of your own ignorance and lack of worthfulness to the world of politics than an illustration of the real world.
- oh? I didn't say they have nothing to offer, but I would rather people in government who started/created their own businesses in the first place and don't go to government jobs to work there forever before working in private sector.
I think that's the worst part and it's obviously going to be a bigger problem with the younger people.
No, young shouldn't be privileged by the system (and they can't be, because it's the old who run it, and they won't give privileges to somebody who is not themselves, that's just a fact.)
But you are correct on something - the entire idea of 'social contract' is completely screwed up. There is no such thing. The past generations voted in some assholes who put the country into a perpetual debt position by signing up for various pyramid schemes, so called 'social contracts'. Well, the young didn't sign any contracts. They shouldn't be forced to pay for those failing schemes.
Well, I was born in USSR but I haven't lived in it since the 93 I think. Where I am now... certainly not living in the former Soviet block. So that's a stupid non-starter argument.
No, it was a jab at the young. Of-course it was. Young people don't have understanding of issues.
Older people also may not have understanding of issues, but the older people had the opportunity to learn, to gain some wisdom, to have experience, to learn from history and from their own lives.
Of-course professionals politicians are mostly useless, young or old. A big difference may be that the young may act upon their naivete and ignorance while the old may act upon pure self interest.
I don't trust the young or the old much, but I know that the young are pretty much ignorant and with the old it's a toss up.
In too many instances it's true. What's worse is that many of the professional politicians go into politics and are not necessarily rich, but they become rich while in the government.
Gingrich, Pelosi, Boehner, etc., too many of them become rich basically by setting up some special deals for people/companies who then make them rich. Making millions while working for the government, and not because they are paid anything like that, but because they are paid off like that.
This is again, Boeing. Biggest bombs and robot killer helicopters.
Great economy you are having there. Glad to see you care about your environment and air and all that 'welfare'. Too bad the outcome of all this wonderful 'care' is a war economy. But ask yourselves this: once they have enough robots to kill people all around the world, why do they need you at all? You don't produce anything else and all the weapons they need they will have automated. I guess your purpose is to burn oil and their's is to make sure they get more power and weapons so you can burn more oil.
Yeah, people who never had a real job or a had to pay real taxes. That's why Europe is all screwed up - you can't have kids running the show either, they'll just vote for more toys and less work every time, they don't care where the stuff comes from.
Daddy, would you buy me that thing? No, I don't have enough money. Daddy, why don't you buy more money and buy me that toy?
They should also look into this 'fire' thing. It's time to put to rest the age old myth that fire burns. It's not fire that burns, it's some material that burns, and 'burns' really means that some material is undergoing oxidization and temperature increase.
- bullshit. This is no rogue employee, this is a systematic thing that I have seen happening in a number of companies as a contractor. This is normal operating procedure for large vendors like Oracle and MS and others, their official policy is like US official policy on negotiations between Israel and Palestine, but their real policy is like the real deal that US always pursues in that case. No difference.
And remember - YOU are the one who started with the insults. Not me. So, you might want to re-think your criticisms of my giving back as good is I get, lard-head.
in other words, freetards like RMS, and, evidently, you. Sad, really........... I guess it's time for you to stop being a hypocrite
you are full of shit and that's the record.
BUT - you claimed to have witnessed these incidents personally, and you failed to report them, making you complicit
- I didn't start with insults, but I am going to finish with them - you are a MORON. You are a functional idiot.
The companies I worked for had this going on at the HIGHEST levels, so you can go complain about CEO and his top circle to himself, but that just would prove you to be a total retard.
You lose at every turn, you don't even need to understand it, but you are such a complete waste of my time.
So you are a chick. No surprise, with personal attacks all over the place, clearly a chick SOP.
As to specific cases - clearly I am not going to be provoked on the web to put myself into a situation where I actually start naming names, times, locations. But I do have a resume on line and obviously the cases are linked to the places where I have worked.
Again: this is none of your business. Oracle, MS and others, including HP, IBM, etc. ALL are participating bribing the officials.
As to an UNRELATED TO ME case of Microsoft giving out bribes, that's just TOO EASY,
Well, now with this study, now you can be certain - these 'friends' are just assholes:)
What you do is, next time they call you from the airport, tell them you are coming, but don't. When they call you later all worked up, say: oh, I forgot. Will be right there.
Don't show up again.
That solves both of your problems.
The 'friend' and money problem and whatever else, I forgot.
So, now you want us all to believe that no government ever bought anything from Oracle or Microsoft? You're such an idiot. Keep back-pedaling... it's fun to watch you drowning in your own BS.
- you are a fucking idiot of amazing degree. I have never worked for government. I worked for telcos, banks and insurance. I am talking about private companies, where Oracle and MS and some others as well come with 'gifts' to top management so that their products are selected not on merit but based on those gifts. You are a moron of unbelievable proportions. Also no logic. Are you a chick?
You'r so full of sj*t - you forgot to check the "post anonymously: when you wrote this
- you are a total ass. I never check 'AC' on purpose, only when my account reaches the limit and I have to post as AC or switch to my second account. So go fuck yourself, you ain't helping anybody here, that's for sure.
So, either you're a crook yourself - after all, you claim to have seen criminal activity and not reported it - or you're just a lying freetard. Our you're both.
- you are an IDIOT as well. Bribes are given left, right and center, not in the form of money even, but as gifts and expensive trips and tickets. It's done INSIDE PRIVATE COMPANIES, you moron.
This is not a government issue, there is nothing CRIMINAL about it, but there is the problem of ETHICS, which you clearly don't understand or know about. Again, go fuck yourself, you are not helping anybody here, you fucking moron.
Thus you now have to apply the burning tire to your head or have somebody apply it to you. As to who is a 'troll' here, you should really think about that.
That is just so funny to listen to time and again, while all the commodities together and even equities are basically now moving in reverse correlation with the currencies. Too funny.
If you don't hire people because you don't want to pay minimum wage you should be jailed for your protection. People not being hired for less than minimum wage should toss a tire around your head and burn you alive.
Don't tell me somebody else has minimum wage, I know that the countries the world over are screwed up.
Your words: if you don't hire people because you don't want to pay mnimum wage, tire should be tossed around your head and you should burn alive.
So tell me, are YOU creating any jobs that are unprofitable? Because if you PERSONALLY aren't creating the jobs that are unprofitable, then you should have your own prescription applied to you.
No, minimum wage only outlaws some people from working.
NOBODY can FORCE me to hire someone, who is not producing more than minimum wage worth of value after all of the expenses for a higher than minimum wage salary.
If you hire a person, that person has to produce enough value to offset the cost of hiring, all of the associated expenses and he has to produce some profit.
So if somebody produces 6 dollars worth of revenue and he costs say 5 dollars, then the 1 dollar is profit. If the minimum wage is 7.25, then by hiring that person at that wage instead of generating 1 dollar worth of profit you generate 1.25 loss.
It makes no sense to hire somebody (unless you are a government), who costs your business money and generates a loss (well, there are instances where it may be a strategic hiring, something special, used to create a tax deduction or something).
But basically by setting minimum wage you outprice some people from the market.
If the entire world set a minimum wage of say 10 dollars per hour, then the result would be massive unemployment everywhere, as those people who were making under that amount and who are not producing enough revenue to cover and make some profit would all be fired.
Nobody can FORCE a company to hire somebody and nobody can force a company to hire somebody to make a loss. That's just weird misunderstanding of how economy works and why people start businesses.
In your world the total unemployment would be on the order of 30% total throughout the entire world.
That's the entire statement.
In response to a comment, that states that nobody has any obligation (and indeed would be an idiot), to hire people so that the company would make a LOSS on hiring them, your response was: tire should be put around your head and you should be burnt alive.
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Thus the question is absolutely legitimate: how many jobs have YOU created that are a loss generator? If you are not creating those jobs, then YOU should have a tire on your head burning you alive by YOUR OWN WORDS.
So come on, fess up.
EITHER: you are hiring all the people around you and making a loss. OR: you should be burnt with a tire around your head.
How many jobs have you created? You are claiming people should be burned with tires on their heads if they don't create unprofitable 'jobs' (whatever that means), so how many jobs have you created, because you need to undergo your owned prescribed treatment if you are not creating any.
That's just so fucking stupid. The entire premise that there WAS 'supply side economics' is stupid.
The supply consists of cheap foreign labor (cheap, due to continuous money printing - it's cheap if the money costs nothing to you).
So it's stupid, because there are 7 billion people on this planet and they have needs that are definitely NOT satisfied.
Food, clean water, medicine, good clothing, good housing, cars or other types of transport, all sorts of entertainment, vacations... hell, nice dining sets. You think everybody has everything? You think all people who want them, have the washing machines? Dishwashers? Laptops?
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I'd rather people who start businesses stay in their area of expertise (business). Why would you want to take a productive person away from producing?
- well, people who produce are the ones disproportionately hurt by the decisions made in politics, so obviously they should be seeking ways to minimize the damage.
You want people who never worked in private sector to be in government, I think people who never worked in private sectors shouldn't even be allowed to vote, never mind working in government.
A war economy is different from a normal economy where weapons are just small part of it, so you can't peg this Terminator bullshit on me.
That's just complete tosh.
- oh? Because the young are so much more knowledgeable and have so much more experience than somebody who is say twice their age.
If you genuinely believe the young can never have anything to offer as elected political representatives then I think that's more a sad reflection of your own ignorance and lack of worthfulness to the world of politics than an illustration of the real world.
- oh? I didn't say they have nothing to offer, but I would rather people in government who started/created their own businesses in the first place and don't go to government jobs to work there forever before working in private sector.
I think that's the worst part and it's obviously going to be a bigger problem with the younger people.
No, young shouldn't be privileged by the system (and they can't be, because it's the old who run it, and they won't give privileges to somebody who is not themselves, that's just a fact.)
But you are correct on something - the entire idea of 'social contract' is completely screwed up. There is no such thing. The past generations voted in some assholes who put the country into a perpetual debt position by signing up for various pyramid schemes, so called 'social contracts'. Well, the young didn't sign any contracts. They shouldn't be forced to pay for those failing schemes.
Well, I was born in USSR but I haven't lived in it since the 93 I think. Where I am now... certainly not living in the former Soviet block. So that's a stupid non-starter argument.
No, it was a jab at the young. Of-course it was. Young people don't have understanding of issues.
Older people also may not have understanding of issues, but the older people had the opportunity to learn, to gain some wisdom, to have experience, to learn from history and from their own lives.
Of-course professionals politicians are mostly useless, young or old. A big difference may be that the young may act upon their naivete and ignorance while the old may act upon pure self interest.
I don't trust the young or the old much, but I know that the young are pretty much ignorant and with the old it's a toss up.
In too many instances it's true. What's worse is that many of the professional politicians go into politics and are not necessarily rich, but they become rich while in the government.
Gingrich, Pelosi, Boehner, etc., too many of them become rich basically by setting up some special deals for people/companies who then make them rich. Making millions while working for the government, and not because they are paid anything like that, but because they are paid off like that.
So I watched that video, what can I say, I liked that trailer.
This video explains about the robot helicopter and what it's really for in the first 22 seconds.
At 1:20 they explain that this helicopter started as a commercial aircraft, but later was adopted for 'special operations'.
As I said, it's a war based economy/
This is again, Boeing. Biggest bombs and robot killer helicopters.
Great economy you are having there. Glad to see you care about your environment and air and all that 'welfare'. Too bad the outcome of all this wonderful 'care' is a war economy. But ask yourselves this: once they have enough robots to kill people all around the world, why do they need you at all? You don't produce anything else and all the weapons they need they will have automated. I guess your purpose is to burn oil and their's is to make sure they get more power and weapons so you can burn more oil.
Yeah, people who never had a real job or a had to pay real taxes. That's why Europe is all screwed up - you can't have kids running the show either, they'll just vote for more toys and less work every time, they don't care where the stuff comes from.
Daddy, would you buy me that thing?
No, I don't have enough money.
Daddy, why don't you buy more money and buy me that toy?
They should also look into this 'fire' thing. It's time to put to rest the age old myth that fire burns. It's not fire that burns, it's some material that burns, and 'burns' really means that some material is undergoing oxidization and temperature increase.
rogue employee who violates company policy,
- bullshit. This is no rogue employee, this is a systematic thing that I have seen happening in a number of companies as a contractor. This is normal operating procedure for large vendors like Oracle and MS and others, their official policy is like US official policy on negotiations between Israel and Palestine, but their real policy is like the real deal that US always pursues in that case. No difference.
And remember - YOU are the one who started with the insults. Not me. So, you might want to re-think your criticisms of my giving back as good is I get, lard-head.
BULLSHIT.
Quote:
in other words, freetards like RMS, and, evidently, you. Sad, really. ..... .....
I guess it's time for you to stop being a hypocrite
you are full of shit and that's the record.
BUT - you claimed to have witnessed these incidents personally, and you failed to report them, making you complicit
- I didn't start with insults, but I am going to finish with them - you are a MORON. You are a functional idiot.
The companies I worked for had this going on at the HIGHEST levels, so you can go complain about CEO and his top circle to himself, but that just would prove you to be a total retard.
You lose at every turn, you don't even need to understand it, but you are such a complete waste of my time.
So you are a chick. No surprise, with personal attacks all over the place, clearly a chick SOP.
As to specific cases - clearly I am not going to be provoked on the web to put myself into a situation where I actually start naming names, times, locations. But I do have a resume on line and obviously the cases are linked to the places where I have worked.
Again: this is none of your business. Oracle, MS and others, including HP, IBM, etc. ALL are participating bribing the officials.
As to an UNRELATED TO ME case of Microsoft giving out bribes, that's just TOO EASY,
LMGIFY
and nothing gets done in Russia with buttering the way
As to Oracle, why let's see more.
So you can yell till you are blue in the face. All you are good for is some 'smelly socks' jokes.
Well, now with this study, now you can be certain - these 'friends' are just assholes :)
What you do is, next time they call you from the airport, tell them you are coming, but don't. When they call you later all worked up, say: oh, I forgot. Will be right there.
Don't show up again.
That solves both of your problems.
The 'friend' and money problem and whatever else, I forgot.
I see I touched a nerve. Well, this is a boys' club, honey.
So, now you want us all to believe that no government ever bought anything from Oracle or Microsoft? You're such an idiot. Keep back-pedaling ... it's fun to watch you drowning in your own BS.
- you are a fucking idiot of amazing degree. I have never worked for government. I worked for telcos, banks and insurance. I am talking about private companies, where Oracle and MS and some others as well come with 'gifts' to top management so that their products are selected not on merit but based on those gifts. You are a moron of unbelievable proportions. Also no logic. Are you a chick?
You'r so full of sj*t - you forgot to check the "post anonymously: when you wrote this
- you are a total ass. I never check 'AC' on purpose, only when my account reaches the limit and I have to post as AC or switch to my second account. So go fuck yourself, you ain't helping anybody here, that's for sure.
So, either you're a crook yourself - after all, you claim to have seen criminal activity and not reported it - or you're just a lying freetard. Our you're both.
- you are an IDIOT as well. Bribes are given left, right and center, not in the form of money even, but as gifts and expensive trips and tickets. It's done INSIDE PRIVATE COMPANIES, you moron.
This is not a government issue, there is nothing CRIMINAL about it, but there is the problem of ETHICS, which you clearly don't understand or know about. Again, go fuck yourself, you are not helping anybody here, you fucking moron.
Thus you now have to apply the burning tire to your head or have somebody apply it to you. As to who is a 'troll' here, you should really think about that.
That is just so funny to listen to time and again, while all the commodities together and even equities are basically now moving in reverse correlation with the currencies. Too funny.
This is my thread, bitch.
Your statements mean exactly nothing. I provide opinion.
You provide shit that belongs in kindergarten. (and all the other nonsense that comes out of your mouth).
You are not even a target, you aren't even playing the same game here.
Again, how many jobs have you created.
Your precise statement was this (full comment, nothing taken out, and the context is in this thread):
If you don't hire people because you don't want to pay minimum wage you should be jailed for your protection. People not being hired for less than minimum wage should toss a tire around your head and burn you alive.
Don't tell me somebody else has minimum wage, I know that the countries the world over are screwed up.
Your words: if you don't hire people because you don't want to pay mnimum wage, tire should be tossed around your head and you should burn alive.
So tell me, are YOU creating any jobs that are unprofitable? Because if you PERSONALLY aren't creating the jobs that are unprofitable, then you should have your own prescription applied to you.
Why? Because that quote, that statement was a response to this statement I made.:
No, minimum wage only outlaws some people from working.
NOBODY can FORCE me to hire someone, who is not producing more than minimum wage worth of value after all of the expenses for a higher than minimum wage salary.
If you hire a person, that person has to produce enough value to offset the cost of hiring, all of the associated expenses and he has to produce some profit.
So if somebody produces 6 dollars worth of revenue and he costs say 5 dollars, then the 1 dollar is profit. If the minimum wage is 7.25, then by hiring that person at that wage instead of generating 1 dollar worth of profit you generate 1.25 loss.
It makes no sense to hire somebody (unless you are a government), who costs your business money and generates a loss (well, there are instances where it may be a strategic hiring, something special, used to create a tax deduction or something).
But basically by setting minimum wage you outprice some people from the market.
If the entire world set a minimum wage of say 10 dollars per hour, then the result would be massive unemployment everywhere, as those people who were making under that amount and who are not producing enough revenue to cover and make some profit would all be fired.
Nobody can FORCE a company to hire somebody and nobody can force a company to hire somebody to make a loss. That's just weird misunderstanding of how economy works and why people start businesses.
In your world the total unemployment would be on the order of 30% total throughout the entire world.
That's the entire statement.
In response to a comment, that states that nobody has any obligation (and indeed would be an idiot), to hire people so that the company would make a LOSS on hiring them, your response was: tire should be put around your head and you should be burnt alive.
-
Thus the question is absolutely legitimate: how many jobs have YOU created that are a loss generator? If you are not creating those jobs, then YOU should have a tire on your head burning you alive by YOUR OWN WORDS.
So come on, fess up.
EITHER: you are hiring all the people around you and making a loss.
OR: you should be burnt with a tire around your head.
OR: you are full of shit.
How many jobs have you created? You are claiming people should be burned with tires on their heads if they don't create unprofitable 'jobs' (whatever that means), so how many jobs have you created, because you need to undergo your owned prescribed treatment if you are not creating any.
silly moron
liar, or a crook
whiney lying freetard
crook
just some fat loser
- that's about as useful a conversation as can be had with you.
That's just so fucking stupid. The entire premise that there WAS 'supply side economics' is stupid.
The supply consists of cheap foreign labor (cheap, due to continuous money printing - it's cheap if the money costs nothing to you).
So it's stupid, because there are 7 billion people on this planet and they have needs that are definitely NOT satisfied.
Food, clean water, medicine, good clothing, good housing, cars or other types of transport, all sorts of entertainment, vacations... hell, nice dining sets. You think everybody has everything? You think all people who want them, have the washing machines? Dishwashers? Laptops?
this is so fucking stupid.
SEC team members have deeply embedded relationships at many levels within the international space community, industry, academia and NASA.
right. Deep connections to all those people, who can help with extracting a few bucks from the Fed. Why not? Everybody else is doing it.
says the guy basically riding a bomb down. Do you have a cowboy hat?