I did mention they need Cyrillic and other character types to print on those printers, didn't I?
Yes, we used RAW, we used ZPL - only standard ASCII characters can be printed that way, not Unicode character sets or other types of fonts except for the default.
well, yes, I wrote 'raw' into it as well as ZPL and it works, but as I said the problem is writing out characters that are not in normal ASCII, in this case Cyrillic. The characters are not printed.
And this is the problem with allowing big business to violate the environment.
- AFAIC it was not just big business that violated the environment.
It was big government that did it.
What do you think is the real cause for all of this? Government created moral hazard is the reason for it.
10 million dollar liability cap and all the subsidies over the years.
US government is a system that has nothing to do with 'general welfare' described in the Constitution. The system bought the consumers with personal welfare and so the consumers stopped caring about what the government really is. I say consumers, not citizens, because citizens are people who are AWARE of politics and policy and economics and more, as these things are all around and have a huge impact on the society in total.
Government that is buying people with various forms of personal welfare (welfare, Fed printing reserve notes, UI, SS, Medicare/Medicaide ponzi schemes) and these people do not have the moral grounds and reasons to go after government for also violating other principles: going to wars without declaring them, propping up corporations and turning them into monopolies, destroying competition and capital investment, destroying currency itself.
Destroying economy through moral hazards of regulations and cheap money and insurance and taxes, etc.
Destroying ability of people to participate in free market economy by taking away their income.
Causing massive class disparity between rich and poor, as those with government protection become richer while those without become poorer since they can't compete against government laws and taxes and printing of money.
-- 10 MILLION dollars liability cap on deep water drilling? While prohibiting shallow water drilling? (out of sight out of mind?) While subsidizing the oil/coal/etc. preferred corporations?
That's what is creating the disaster.
Government has set up the corporate structure of no personal responsibility in the first place - limited responsibility for corporations.
Who goes to jail for anything today? SMALL TIME CROOKS go to jail.
BIG TIME CROOKS never go to jail (Madoff is in jail for his personal protection).
"the link and logic?" - silly person. You haven't backed up your positions with any data, so you are living in the la-la land. I, on the other hand, am an atheist and only care about data and facts. You ain't my brother, and that's a fact.
you are trolling and unsuccessfully. Am I interested in Linux? I do not write the kernel code. I use Fedora 11, Debian and Open BSD on the servers for business and I switched most of the office to Ubuntu machines as well.
I am not interested in OSX and any Apple products.
How about governments STOP subsidies to companies, including energy (oil/coal/anything), collect proper royalties and at the same time they STOP regulating them also and they STOP providing any moral hazards by insuring them against liability through government regulations?
10 Million dollars liability cap on oil + billions in subsidies and unpaid royalties. Do you know what 10 Million is to them?
It's like 1 dollar for you, maybe less - now that is wonderful insurance and moral hazard. Who cares if you don't follow the best industry standards in terms of quality control and other practices? You are constantly stimulated by the government and will be bailed out in case anything for you goes wrong. You will be protected from lawsuits and from REALLY paying for the costs of cleaning up after yourself and from REAL liability by government.
What the economy and society needs is less government in everything. That way there will be less moral hazard and less risky behavior in everything - from banks gambling to oil companies gambling to military gambling to people gambling, etc. It's all about moral hazard and perceived notion that risk is going to be taken care of by the government.
It's hard not only for governments. A retail operation was trying to switch to Ubuntu boxes and one of the problems became Zebra LP 2824 thermal printer drivers, which are all for windows and none are for unix/linux. Of-course CUPS support these printers to an extent, but not completely and the worst part is printing in Cyrillic - it doesn't work. Barcodes do print and English prints though. Is this a show stopper for Linux on desktop? It well could be in this case.
I find it hard to believe that someone posting on Slashdot has not at least spent some time evaluating OS X, even if they ultimately decided it was not for them.
- hmmm. I've worked with computers since about 91 and professionally since 95 and I only really touched the old apple machines a few times. So yeah, there are people here who didn't evaluate OSX (and not intending to)
I see there is no point continuing to reply to your other post, you live in la-la land, where facts and data do not matter and erroneous personal opinions pass for facts instead.
Yes, the coin clipping in wikipedia is not fully explained. As during the various times in history it was the mint itself, that used this practice and used cheaper metals in coins.
My point was to show that coin clipping is counterfeiting and people were punished for it severely (when caught) and there is no difference how you clip the coin - whether you put less expensive metals into them or you just print more paper.
In the earlier times it was clipping coins and it was not just the subjects of the nation doing it, the mint itself was involved into this, replacing some precious metal in the coin with some substitute.
They were literally diluting the value of coins, causing inflation as coins were worth less and less.
Same thing here, except instead of clipping they print.
- the number of logical fallacies you have displayed in these threads leads me to believe you are not very good at providing factual argumentation, you do not back up your conclusions with any actual evidence, but you like to jump to them.
Money only has value to the extent that people are prepared to accept particular amounts.
- you didn't pay attention to the data, did you? US dollar has been losing value steadily, and since the Fed was created in 1913 it lost 98% of it (more than that now.) Pay attention to the data, otherwise you'll look foolish.
"Counterfeit" money is some instrument which you claim to have particular features but which does not have those features.
- counterfeit. Money that's not genuine. Imitation of money.
US dollars that are passed around by the Fed have such exact features. Every new dollar printed is worth less than any dollar in existence, so every new dollar is NOT like any previous dollar. It is not genuine.
A dollar from 1950 is not the same as dollar from 1918. It is also different from dollar in 2011. The difference between them is staggering. With 2011 dollars you can buy 1/20th of what you could buy for the same amount in 1912 when we talk about commodities: wheat, cotton, rice, pork, coffee etc., and yes, gold. If you are interested to see what real money looks like, here are some pictures. for $20.67 you could have about 2.41 troy oz of gold.
There are many reasons why gold is real money and why in most languages the world for money is actually 'gold' or some form of it. You can't change the facts, you see.
Money which is not backed by a gold standard is not "counterfeit".
- money that is not backed by ANYTHING is counterfeit. For example Chinese currency is 'backed' by their reserves of US dollars/debt. Their problem is that US dollars/debt is backed by nothing, so they chose a wrong backing, but their money is not counterfeit in itself. Of-course if they continue on path of printing as much as they get of the US dollars flowing into their vaults, then it's not really any better than being backed by nothing. In case of Chinese, they are a producer nation and as such they immediately suffer the consequence of higher prices for the levels of inflation they are responsible for. It looks like they may have a revolt on their hands if they don't stop printing and causing massive price hikes. They will have to stop printing and will have to re-evaluate their currency in amount of gold they have. This is going to happen sometime soon.
Use of emotive language doesn't prove anything.
- I don't see where is 'emotive language' used by me at all, but I wonder when is it that you are going to present any proof of anything at all in any of your comments?
What backing does gold have? You've just changed the problem from one of the government being able to print more money - responsibly or irresponsibly - to inflation created by the mining of gold or deflation created by a growing economy lacking gold.
- deflation is a good thing for an economy, as people gain purchasing power. It's only bad for governments, as they have to give their debts back, and they don't like to do that in real money while they do like to live beyond their means.
I provided a link on top, where you can go to learn at least something from this thread, something about gold and its value. Of-course you are ready to dismiss it, after all, it's only history of the evolution of human economy. What you do not realize is that the fiat system without backing by a recognizable, unchangeable, accessible, moderately
Really? Somehow this never stops all those guys, who are... you know... rich because they take government money. It also doesn't stop government from stealing from everybody for example through inflation and ever increasing spending of borrowed/printed/taxed money.
Actually to think of it - how often do people REALLY end up paying for this behavior? (of-course they have to steal very big, otherwise if they steal just a few bucks, they'll end up in jail for the next couple of decades).
I can think only of one person: Madoff. And he went to jail because he robbed too many people who already were very rich, so he is probably safer in jail.
To say that the high level civil service in the UK is run by idiots is essentially to say that the top UK universities are full of idiots.
- I don't know about everything that you said there, but i mean this statement.... so what? It as well could be true, I don't see an immediate obvious reason why that wouldn't be true.
Good for you. Also bad for you that there are those who'll do it, because they'll do it and the money will be spent and economy will be shit. You'll be with your principles in a destroyed economy.
I am not saying you are doing something wrong - I am saying that many people are doing something wrong and it ends up costing everybody.
Sorry, what? Are you saying that, if it weren't for the Federal Reserve and Social Security, the last decade of irresponsible spending and investment would not have resulted in the 2008 "crisis"?
- exactly.
Yes, that's what I am saying. If it weren't for Fed printing money, there wouldn't have been the 1920 and 1929 and 1970s and end of 1990s and current crises. These are ALL due to monetary policy, which can be described in one single word: counterfeiting.
Counterfeit money - money that has no backing of either production or resource of any kind. Money that's printed to cover any costs - be it military or unemployment or pensions or welfare or subsidies and bail outs to large government preferred institutions, like banks and insurance companies and even certain car manufacturers.
If there was no Fed, USA would have never lost its extensive railroad system, it never would have had the ridiculous suburban sprawl resulting from the gov't subsidies during FDR. Some of that money came out of airline taxes, some were borrowed, some were printed.
If there was no Fed, USA would have still had CAPITAL SAVINGS, and there would have been jobs in USA because government would have been significantly smaller.
US government started growing at ever increasing rates since the Fed was established.
SS on the other hand was a crutch, implemented during the 1930s depression as a response to the Fed's 'stimulus' then, and it resulted in government growing even bigger, because from the very beginning it was not set up as a fund - in fact gov't argued in front of many courts (and only won in front of the Supreme court) at the time that SS taxes (payroll part) and SS payments were unconnected to each other. That payroll taxes were 'general' and 'unearmarked'. The reason for that was simple - it's really unconstitutional to take money from one person and directly give it to another, be it a fund or whatever. So payroll taxes paid into SS fund for a specific employee would have been unconstitutional. The gov't argued that those taxes were only implemented together with SS payments by coincidence. There was never a fund, that's what this is about - an SS Trustee explaining that SS has no funds and it's a ponzi scheme.
The reason for SS to exist was of-course gov't counterfeiting currency and sending prices up (another failure of a quazi-gov't agency: Fed's 'mandate' was to keep prices stable, which free market before Fed did splendidly, as US Dollar went up in value by a factor of 2 over 19 century and fell by 98% over the 20th, since the establishment of the Fed.) But the reason why people were in dire conditions was destruction of value of currency and also the fact that income tax ate too much of their earnings. But mostly it was currency destruction. If there was no Fed and no printing and if there was no income tax (which also was implemented in 1913, which is not a coincidence), the US would have not lost its capital investments and people would have been much better off and wouldn't have had any use for gov't SS and Medicare/aide etc. Of-course gov't printing money is another reason why medical insurance and care and education costs have risen so much - gov't guarantees them by providing loans and those institutions can then take everything they see given out by gov't. ---
SS could be run as an investment policy, but it isn't, nor does it need to be. As long as the government behaves responsibly, it doesn't need to have everyone's pension money available - just as banks don't have the total value of all deposits in available cash.
- the fractional reserve is also a scam. FDIC proves it's a scam. There was a reason banks were bankrupt prior to FDIC by bank runs - that's because people don't trust fractional reserve and with a good reason.
Fractional reserve and Madoff's scam and SS and Federal res
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and I wasn't aware that a 'retail operation' had anything to do with German officials.
Why are half the people in this thread unable to understand the very first sentence in the comment?
It's hard not only for governments. A retail operation was trying to switch to Ubuntu boxes
It's hard not only for governments. A retail operation was trying to switch to Ubuntu boxes
Are we reading yet?
I did mention they need Cyrillic and other character types to print on those printers, didn't I?
Yes, we used RAW, we used ZPL - only standard ASCII characters can be printed that way, not Unicode character sets or other types of fonts except for the default.
Did I say anything about Windows being BETTER?
I said that this printer is not working under Linux for printing out Cyrillic in this case, for a store chain it just maybe a show stopper.
well, yes, I wrote 'raw' into it as well as ZPL and it works, but as I said the problem is writing out characters that are not in normal ASCII, in this case Cyrillic. The characters are not printed.
And this is the problem with allowing big business to violate the environment.
- AFAIC it was not just big business that violated the environment.
It was big government that did it.
What do you think is the real cause for all of this? Government created moral hazard is the reason for it.
10 million dollar liability cap and all the subsidies over the years.
US government is a system that has nothing to do with 'general welfare' described in the Constitution. The system bought the consumers with personal welfare and so the consumers stopped caring about what the government really is. I say consumers, not citizens, because citizens are people who are AWARE of politics and policy and economics and more, as these things are all around and have a huge impact on the society in total.
Government that is buying people with various forms of personal welfare (welfare, Fed printing reserve notes, UI, SS, Medicare/Medicaide ponzi schemes) and these people do not have the moral grounds and reasons to go after government for also violating other principles: going to wars without declaring them, propping up corporations and turning them into monopolies, destroying competition and capital investment, destroying currency itself.
Destroying economy through moral hazards of regulations and cheap money and insurance and taxes, etc.
Destroying ability of people to participate in free market economy by taking away their income.
Causing massive class disparity between rich and poor, as those with government protection become richer while those without become poorer since they can't compete against government laws and taxes and printing of money.
--
10 MILLION dollars liability cap on deep water drilling?
While prohibiting shallow water drilling? (out of sight out of mind?)
While subsidizing the oil/coal/etc. preferred corporations?
That's what is creating the disaster.
Government has set up the corporate structure of no personal responsibility in the first place - limited responsibility for corporations.
Who goes to jail for anything today? SMALL TIME CROOKS go to jail.
BIG TIME CROOKS never go to jail (Madoff is in jail for his personal protection).
"the link and logic?" - silly person. You haven't backed up your positions with any data, so you are living in the la-la land. I, on the other hand, am an atheist and only care about data and facts. You ain't my brother, and that's a fact.
you are trolling and unsuccessfully. Am I interested in Linux? I do not write the kernel code. I use Fedora 11, Debian and Open BSD on the servers for business and I switched most of the office to Ubuntu machines as well.
I am not interested in OSX and any Apple products.
I have an idea.
How about governments STOP subsidies to companies, including energy (oil/coal/anything), collect proper royalties and at the same time they STOP regulating them also and they STOP providing any moral hazards by insuring them against liability through government regulations?
10 Million dollars liability cap on oil + billions in subsidies and unpaid royalties. Do you know what 10 Million is to them?
It's like 1 dollar for you, maybe less - now that is wonderful insurance and moral hazard. Who cares if you don't follow the best industry standards in terms of quality control and other practices? You are constantly stimulated by the government and will be bailed out in case anything for you goes wrong. You will be protected from lawsuits and from REALLY paying for the costs of cleaning up after yourself and from REAL liability by government.
What the economy and society needs is less government in everything. That way there will be less moral hazard and less risky behavior in everything - from banks gambling to oil companies gambling to military gambling to people gambling, etc. It's all about moral hazard and perceived notion that risk is going to be taken care of by the government.
It's hard not only for governments. A retail operation was trying to switch to Ubuntu boxes and one of the problems became Zebra LP 2824 thermal printer drivers, which are all for windows and none are for unix/linux. Of-course CUPS support these printers to an extent, but not completely and the worst part is printing in Cyrillic - it doesn't work. Barcodes do print and English prints though. Is this a show stopper for Linux on desktop? It well could be in this case.
I find it hard to believe that someone posting on Slashdot has not at least spent some time evaluating OS X, even if they ultimately decided it was not for them.
- hmmm. I've worked with computers since about 91 and professionally since 95 and I only really touched the old apple machines a few times. So yeah, there are people here who didn't evaluate OSX (and not intending to)
I see there is no point continuing to reply to your other post, you live in la-la land, where facts and data do not matter and erroneous personal opinions pass for facts instead.
It does not work in real world, Watson.
You can never have everything perfect for YOU in anything. I like DELL keyboards.
whatever YOUR definition of a 'good keyboard' is apparently is not selling, so competition does suffice.
Also you can buy a freaking separate keyboard.
nothing requires legislation.
There is plenty competition out there in the computer market to have whatever you want and prices reflect the differences.
Yes, the coin clipping in wikipedia is not fully explained. As during the various times in history it was the mint itself, that used this practice and used cheaper metals in coins.
My point was to show that coin clipping is counterfeiting and people were punished for it severely (when caught) and there is no difference how you clip the coin - whether you put less expensive metals into them or you just print more paper.
Actually I use the proper terminology.
In the earlier times it was clipping coins and it was not just the subjects of the nation doing it, the mint itself was involved into this, replacing some precious metal in the coin with some substitute.
They were literally diluting the value of coins, causing inflation as coins were worth less and less.
Same thing here, except instead of clipping they print.
Well, I think those who need to know, they know already.
the rest they are diseased.
that person looks very productive.
I like the juggling monkey, what does that do?
Oh god, you're insane.
- the number of logical fallacies you have displayed in these threads leads me to believe you are not very good at providing factual argumentation, you do not back up your conclusions with any actual evidence, but you like to jump to them.
Money only has value to the extent that people are prepared to accept particular amounts.
- you didn't pay attention to the data, did you? US dollar has been losing value steadily, and since the Fed was created in 1913 it lost 98% of it (more than that now.) Pay attention to the data, otherwise you'll look foolish.
"Counterfeit" money is some instrument which you claim to have particular features but which does not have those features.
- counterfeit. Money that's not genuine. Imitation of money.
US dollars that are passed around by the Fed have such exact features. Every new dollar printed is worth less than any dollar in existence, so every new dollar is NOT like any previous dollar. It is not genuine.
A dollar from 1950 is not the same as dollar from 1918. It is also different from dollar in 2011. The difference between them is staggering. With 2011 dollars you can buy 1/20th of what you could buy for the same amount in 1912 when we talk about commodities: wheat, cotton, rice, pork, coffee etc., and yes, gold. If you are interested to see what real money looks like, here are some pictures. for $20.67 you could have about 2.41 troy oz of gold.
There are many reasons why gold is real money and why in most languages the world for money is actually 'gold' or some form of it. You can't change the facts, you see.
Money which is not backed by a gold standard is not "counterfeit".
- money that is not backed by ANYTHING is counterfeit. For example Chinese currency is 'backed' by their reserves of US dollars/debt. Their problem is that US dollars/debt is backed by nothing, so they chose a wrong backing, but their money is not counterfeit in itself. Of-course if they continue on path of printing as much as they get of the US dollars flowing into their vaults, then it's not really any better than being backed by nothing. In case of Chinese, they are a producer nation and as such they immediately suffer the consequence of higher prices for the levels of inflation they are responsible for. It looks like they may have a revolt on their hands if they don't stop printing and causing massive price hikes. They will have to stop printing and will have to re-evaluate their currency in amount of gold they have. This is going to happen sometime soon.
Use of emotive language doesn't prove anything.
- I don't see where is 'emotive language' used by me at all, but I wonder when is it that you are going to present any proof of anything at all in any of your comments?
What backing does gold have? You've just changed the problem from one of the government being able to print more money - responsibly or irresponsibly - to inflation created by the mining of gold or deflation created by a growing economy lacking gold.
- deflation is a good thing for an economy, as people gain purchasing power. It's only bad for governments, as they have to give their debts back, and they don't like to do that in real money while they do like to live beyond their means.
I provided a link on top, where you can go to learn at least something from this thread, something about gold and its value. Of-course you are ready to dismiss it, after all, it's only history of the evolution of human economy. What you do not realize is that the fiat system without backing by a recognizable, unchangeable, accessible, moderately
Really? Somehow this never stops all those guys, who are ... you know... rich because they take government money. It also doesn't stop government from stealing from everybody for example through inflation and ever increasing spending of borrowed/printed/taxed money.
Actually to think of it - how often do people REALLY end up paying for this behavior? (of-course they have to steal very big, otherwise if they steal just a few bucks, they'll end up in jail for the next couple of decades).
I can think only of one person: Madoff. And he went to jail because he robbed too many people who already were very rich, so he is probably safer in jail.
Maybe you are right. It doesn't seem that it's the likely outcome, but maybe you are right.
To say that the high level civil service in the UK is run by idiots is essentially to say that the top UK universities are full of idiots.
- I don't know about everything that you said there, but i mean this statement.... so what? It as well could be true, I don't see an immediate obvious reason why that wouldn't be true.
Good for you. Also bad for you that there are those who'll do it, because they'll do it and the money will be spent and economy will be shit. You'll be with your principles in a destroyed economy.
I am not saying you are doing something wrong - I am saying that many people are doing something wrong and it ends up costing everybody.
Sorry, what? Are you saying that, if it weren't for the Federal Reserve and Social Security, the last decade of irresponsible spending and investment would not have resulted in the 2008 "crisis"?
- exactly.
Yes, that's what I am saying. If it weren't for Fed printing money, there wouldn't have been the 1920 and 1929 and 1970s and end of 1990s and current crises. These are ALL due to monetary policy, which can be described in one single word: counterfeiting.
Counterfeit money - money that has no backing of either production or resource of any kind. Money that's printed to cover any costs - be it military or unemployment or pensions or welfare or subsidies and bail outs to large government preferred institutions, like banks and insurance companies and even certain car manufacturers.
If there was no Fed, USA would have never lost its extensive railroad system, it never would have had the ridiculous suburban sprawl resulting from the gov't subsidies during FDR. Some of that money came out of airline taxes, some were borrowed, some were printed.
If there was no Fed, USA would have still had CAPITAL SAVINGS, and there would have been jobs in USA because government would have been significantly smaller.
US government started growing at ever increasing rates since the Fed was established.
SS on the other hand was a crutch, implemented during the 1930s depression as a response to the Fed's 'stimulus' then, and it resulted in government growing even bigger, because from the very beginning it was not set up as a fund - in fact gov't argued in front of many courts (and only won in front of the Supreme court) at the time that SS taxes (payroll part) and SS payments were unconnected to each other. That payroll taxes were 'general' and 'unearmarked'. The reason for that was simple - it's really unconstitutional to take money from one person and directly give it to another, be it a fund or whatever. So payroll taxes paid into SS fund for a specific employee would have been unconstitutional. The gov't argued that those taxes were only implemented together with SS payments by coincidence. There was never a fund, that's what this is about - an SS Trustee explaining that SS has no funds and it's a ponzi scheme.
The reason for SS to exist was of-course gov't counterfeiting currency and sending prices up (another failure of a quazi-gov't agency: Fed's 'mandate' was to keep prices stable, which free market before Fed did splendidly, as US Dollar went up in value by a factor of 2 over 19 century and fell by 98% over the 20th, since the establishment of the Fed.) But the reason why people were in dire conditions was destruction of value of currency and also the fact that income tax ate too much of their earnings. But mostly it was currency destruction.
If there was no Fed and no printing and if there was no income tax (which also was implemented in 1913, which is not a coincidence), the US would have not lost its capital investments and people would have been much better off and wouldn't have had any use for gov't SS and Medicare/aide etc. Of-course gov't printing money is another reason why medical insurance and care and education costs have risen so much - gov't guarantees them by providing loans and those institutions can then take everything they see given out by gov't.
---
SS could be run as an investment policy, but it isn't, nor does it need to be. As long as the government behaves responsibly, it doesn't need to have everyone's pension money available - just as banks don't have the total value of all deposits in available cash.
- the fractional reserve is also a scam. FDIC proves it's a scam. There was a reason banks were bankrupt prior to FDIC by bank runs - that's because people don't trust fractional reserve and with a good reason.
Fractional reserve and Madoff's scam and SS and Federal res