If history teaches anything is that all governments eventually become unbearable and then they are replaced by a violent event of some sort. This has happened enough time for us to draw the correct conclusion, which is that people cannot set up a good government that will remain good forever.
I bet on eons of history being more right than you are.
Yes, but have you ever heard of any government just giving up its powers? That is completely unheard of, that's the trillion dollar reason why there were so many revolutions all over the world, civil wars, so called 'terrorists' etc., understand, they all were fighting the machine one way or another.
Lately the masses have been brainwashed so much, they completely don't understand this, but think back through some of the revolutions and civil wars... you know, many kings had their heads chopped off...
What do you propose, exactly, as the goal to be achieved by wanton acts of violence?
- satisfaction.
As for having no government... I can't really grasp what that would mean. Government is the entity with the power to make others bend to its will. I have a hard time seeing a group of people of any appreciable size where such an entity does not arise
I answered a question that was asked in the parent comment, you are all ACs, you all look the same to me.
1. Intentions of Iran are NOT clear, no matter what the government illegitimate leader is saying. Go ahead, list the Iranian intentions that are clear.
2. USA selectively supports/funds/arms militant groups, including those seeking destruction of various countries, including Israel. It's called arms trade.
Well, the comment that you replied to didn't imply that this particular case of arrest was really done because of CIA involvement, it only implied that if this was a butchered CIA job, that you shouldn't be surprised too much that they could have done such a poor job doing it.
It doesn't matter where you are, there is a government there, some are worse than others, but all of them have evolved into similar structures with the relationship between a citizen and government of a country is very abusive, and the government is the one doing the abuse.
Name a country, any country, there are people there abused their governments, it is what it is. Feels like terrorism against governments is the only meaningful life pursuit at this point.
Do you honestly believe that if Saddam left the Iraqi government US wouldn't have invaded? After all, it's making a killing there. Get it? A killing.
Literally killing millions AND figuratively making trillions first in military and now mostly in private contracts.
Is anybody left in the world not understanding why US starts wars? For profit of its military industrial complex. AFAIC, I'd rather have ideologies and ideologues leading countries than sell outs who are after a buck.
So if you are so set against Iran seeking the destruction of Israel (which is none of my business, what do I care if Israel is destroyed?) then why didn't US attack Iran in the first place after the 9/11? Bush and Romney and Cheney were already lying through the teeth about Iraq's role in 9/11 and about those WMDs, why couldn't they have gone after a 'more legitimate' target?
Because again, it's about the money.
AFAIC the intentions of USA are MUCH MORE CLEAR than intentions of Iran.
Intentions of USA is to start as many wars as it possibly can to make as much money in all of these contracts as possible. Iranian government only hates Israel because Israel is USA's ally.
Israel has positioned itself in the Middle East as USA's right hand and Middle East is seeking to cut that hand off. Whatever.
USA bombed Yugoslavia, they bombed the country into a stone age. The Vietnam war, Korea, and all other conflicts USA has started and provoked and made money in shows how dangerous and rogue and evil it really is.
You want to talk about 'axis of evil'? USA is the center of it.
Do you think CIA has magic powers? It consists of people and it is a government bureaucracy, it is mostly shuffling papers around, it's glamorous as in movies. And yes, the same problems that are found in most government organizations and large corporations are present there - various power struggles, inefficiencies, idiots, everything.
I wouldn't put it past CIA to make any sort of mistake at all, actually it's a surprise when they do anything right.
Java is their TRADEMARK. So why do you lie? Actually I don't think you are lying, you are just ignorant on what is happening and on what Java is (which is at this point a Free Source application). There are free implementations of Java platform and there are thousands if not tens of thousands of Free applications created in Java.
Oracle vs Google is a patent war and it is also a copyright war, you are not involved until you create your own platform that is supposedly for Java but does not work with actual Java.
If you call something Java it better be Java and behave like Java, that's the trademark part of the lawsuit.
Well, if by Hitler you mean Bush, then he said the exact same thing: "Saddam's regime must be toppled", and by the way, the US started a war with Iraq on false pretenses AND it lied to its own STUPID citizens, who can't put 2 and 2 together and more than half of who believed Iraq to be inolved in 9/11.
Government of Iran says that it wants to destroy the REGIME that is in Jerusalem.
It absolutely does not say it wants to drop nuclear bombs on Israel, that's what YOUR USA Regime is telling you to get you to rally up for yet another war in the Middle East.
blah blah blah, US has invaded Iraq and over a MILLION civilians have died, also countless in Afghanistan.
If Iran bombed Israel also a million could die.
But of-course, in your mind it's not the actual outcome, but the intentions.
If intentions are better, then the outcome is justified even if it is exactly the same.
Well IRL people don't CARE about your intentions, they CARE about the actual real outcome.
US is a much much bigger threat to life on this planet than all Muslims combined.
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Oh, and the 'good Christians' of the USA are not going to touch the Jews, they are hoping for the Armageddon and that the god will do this for them instead.
But remember, it's the intentions that are important, right?
Oil is blood, both literally and figuratively speaking.
BP feeds on blood. BP (then Anglo Persian Oil Company) has caused the UK and US to overthrow the democratic government of Iran just to get a little better contract on extracting the oil there.
Then later BP caused a major disaster in the Gulf of Mexico.
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If history teaches anything is that all governments eventually become unbearable and then they are replaced by a violent event of some sort. This has happened enough time for us to draw the correct conclusion, which is that people cannot set up a good government that will remain good forever.
I bet on eons of history being more right than you are.
Thanks, I'll be waiting for them here.
Yes, but have you ever heard of any government just giving up its powers? That is completely unheard of, that's the trillion dollar reason why there were so many revolutions all over the world, civil wars, so called 'terrorists' etc., understand, they all were fighting the machine one way or another.
Lately the masses have been brainwashed so much, they completely don't understand this, but think back through some of the revolutions and civil wars... you know, many kings had their heads chopped off...
What do you propose, exactly, as the goal to be achieved by wanton acts of violence?
- satisfaction.
As for having no government... I can't really grasp what that would mean. Government is the entity with the power to make others bend to its will. I have a hard time seeing a group of people of any appreciable size where such an entity does not arise
- clearly, that's why life is a struggle.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
AFAIC fighting governments in any way is fighting against oppression for freedom.
I answered a question that was asked in the parent comment, you are all ACs, you all look the same to me.
1. Intentions of Iran are NOT clear, no matter what the government illegitimate leader is saying. Go ahead, list the Iranian intentions that are clear.
2. USA selectively supports/funds/arms militant groups, including those seeking destruction of various countries, including Israel. It's called arms trade.
I am not an American and never lived in the US though I have visited a few places there, just saying.
Well, the comment that you replied to didn't imply that this particular case of arrest was really done because of CIA involvement, it only implied that if this was a butchered CIA job, that you shouldn't be surprised too much that they could have done such a poor job doing it.
It doesn't matter where you are, there is a government there, some are worse than others, but all of them have evolved into similar structures with the relationship between a citizen and government of a country is very abusive, and the government is the one doing the abuse.
Name a country, any country, there are people there abused their governments, it is what it is. Feels like terrorism against governments is the only meaningful life pursuit at this point.
Do you honestly believe that if Saddam left the Iraqi government US wouldn't have invaded? After all, it's making a killing there. Get it? A killing.
Literally killing millions AND figuratively making trillions first in military and now mostly in private contracts.
Is anybody left in the world not understanding why US starts wars? For profit of its military industrial complex. AFAIC, I'd rather have ideologies and ideologues leading countries than sell outs who are after a buck.
So if you are so set against Iran seeking the destruction of Israel (which is none of my business, what do I care if Israel is destroyed?) then why didn't US attack Iran in the first place after the 9/11? Bush and Romney and Cheney were already lying through the teeth about Iraq's role in 9/11 and about those WMDs, why couldn't they have gone after a 'more legitimate' target?
Because again, it's about the money.
AFAIC the intentions of USA are MUCH MORE CLEAR than intentions of Iran.
Intentions of USA is to start as many wars as it possibly can to make as much money in all of these contracts as possible. Iranian government only hates Israel because Israel is USA's ally.
Israel has positioned itself in the Middle East as USA's right hand and Middle East is seeking to cut that hand off. Whatever.
USA bombed Yugoslavia, they bombed the country into a stone age. The Vietnam war, Korea, and all other conflicts USA has started and provoked and made money in shows how dangerous and rogue and evil it really is.
You want to talk about 'axis of evil'? USA is the center of it.
and your name is?
Excellent, I see I have a fucking FAN. Would you carry my water bottle?
Meant to say that it is not glamorous, as in movies of-course.
You want glamor, you don't work for CIA, you work for Glamour magazine, and I am not even sure it's that glamorous there either.
Do you think CIA has magic powers? It consists of people and it is a government bureaucracy, it is mostly shuffling papers around, it's glamorous as in movies. And yes, the same problems that are found in most government organizations and large corporations are present there - various power struggles, inefficiencies, idiots, everything.
I wouldn't put it past CIA to make any sort of mistake at all, actually it's a surprise when they do anything right.
Pffft. Please, you can be accused of rape of anybody whether you have ever seen them or not, be it a female, a male, a donkey or Obama.
Whether you talk to them prior to the accusation or not is irrelevant, in fact why would they want to talk to you if you are being set up?
Amazingly, they fucked up so badly that they couldn't get things to stick for even a day. How did that happen?
- do you know how much time it takes to procure the GOOD scotch tape through Congress nowadays?
I am here to judge.
Apparently you are not the only one who want's 'his balls'. There are a few interested parties, I believe most want it on a platter.
Java is their TRADEMARK. So why do you lie? Actually I don't think you are lying, you are just ignorant on what is happening and on what Java is (which is at this point a Free Source application). There are free implementations of Java platform and there are thousands if not tens of thousands of Free applications created in Java.
Oracle vs Google is a patent war and it is also a copyright war, you are not involved until you create your own platform that is supposedly for Java but does not work with actual Java.
If you call something Java it better be Java and behave like Java, that's the trademark part of the lawsuit.
Well, if by Hitler you mean Bush, then he said the exact same thing: "Saddam's regime must be toppled", and by the way, the US started a war with Iraq on false pretenses AND it lied to its own STUPID citizens, who can't put 2 and 2 together and more than half of who believed Iraq to be inolved in 9/11.
Also you just Godwined yourself.
for now.
Government of Iran says that it wants to destroy the REGIME that is in Jerusalem.
It absolutely does not say it wants to drop nuclear bombs on Israel, that's what YOUR USA Regime is telling you to get you to rally up for yet another war in the Middle East.
not the above comment is 'Flamebait' but USA as a country is a Flamebait.
And then YOU should CHECK what Iran said about Israel: The regime in Jerusalem must be wiped out of the time. (that was the literal translation)
So WHAT is the difference between USA and Iran?
The difference is: Iran talks big and USA invades a working country FOR NOW GODDAMN REASON and OVER AND MILLION people DIE.
So you know what, there are no words harsh enough to describe the hatred, there is no need for words. Things need to be done.
blah blah blah, US has invaded Iraq and over a MILLION civilians have died, also countless in Afghanistan.
If Iran bombed Israel also a million could die.
But of-course, in your mind it's not the actual outcome, but the intentions.
If intentions are better, then the outcome is justified even if it is exactly the same.
Well IRL people don't CARE about your intentions, they CARE about the actual real outcome.
US is a much much bigger threat to life on this planet than all Muslims combined.
--
Oh, and the 'good Christians' of the USA are not going to touch the Jews, they are hoping for the Armageddon and that the god will do this for them instead.
But remember, it's the intentions that are important, right?
Oil is blood, both literally and figuratively speaking.
BP feeds on blood. BP (then Anglo Persian Oil Company) has caused the UK and US to overthrow the democratic government of Iran just to get a little better contract on extracting the oil there.
Then later BP caused a major disaster in the Gulf of Mexico.
I think BP is actually a vampire.