Well what it could do, at least for some people, is call motives in to question
- OK, so let's say Assange is found guilty of some crime and in fact let's even say that his motives ARE questionable.
Here is the answer to all of that: his motives don't matter, we must still get all the information that wikileaks provides, it's our information, it needs to be opened.
JA seems really attracted to standing in the limelight
- factually incorrect.
The guy was VERY much invisible for the longest time, he only started showing up on the radar very lately, this coincided with him being linked to releasing the documents that US government does not want to see released. He is hiding in plain sight, that's why he is more visible now, otherwise he could have been dead by now.
Now they are not going to kill him physically, just imprison him.
Why are you painting everybody with the same brush?
On the Reiser case I was very much expecting him to be the culprit, I have multiple comments here on that issue, however I have a little more insider knowledge of the family problems that were experienced there, my wife's sister was Nina's good friend.
However in this case, I have very very high doubts about Assange being guilty of rape, but I don't exclude it 100%, it's just there is very high possibility he was set up by US government, and it's no joke, they know how to handle people they hate and to turn opinion to their advantage, I am surprised the charge isn't 'Child Porn' + 'Child Rape', I guess they didn't go as far as hiring a child and raping it, and setting up Assange for doing that, but I am not sure WHY they didn't do it, I fully expect a government to do that with no moral problems whatsoever.
What does that mean, "pay talent what talent deserves"?
I have a real talent for jerking off, it took years to master, I should get paid for that wonderful talent. So who is interested in paying?
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Your argument is absurd. In real world we don't pay people simply because they have talent. People get paid because someone is making money.
A talented basketball player makes money for the investors.
A talented software developer makes money for a company.
A talented thief controls High Frequency Trade transaction house.
Another talented thief controls money flow from many people to a small subset.
A talented plastic surgeon gets paid for his work and discretion.
etc.
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The REAL talent in this case is the UNION, it gets a LOT of people paid for doing very very little, sure some do more, but most do very little, that's what a union does, that's what it is all about. Used to be that a union was really built by people dying on floors of factories, that's not what today's unions are about, especially GOVERNMENT unions!
If your mother is so talented yet she feels that she is financially unappreciated, she has a choice of working in a private school, isn't that so? In fact if her talents are in high DEMAND then she can tutor people for much MORE money than she'd be making in a school, and eventually with that money that she could save, she could open her own private school, why not?
It's not that I am questioning talent of your mother, I have no idea, but the entire point is that you can have the best talents but nobody cares, and nor SHOULD they! Can she apply her talents so that people would want to give her more money, that's the question.
Your solution is a radar when cops don't even bother to try and catch the culprits in a place with NO traffic lights even?
Sure, right, I believe there is a form for this on the Internet, the kind that gives you a bunch of checkboxes to fill in and then at the end gives you the result why your solution is not 'practical, politically/economically viable, etc.'.
By the way, seems to me what would happen to ANY radar/camera in a place like this is that it will be stolen in moments or destroyed some other way.
I was going to moderate in this discussion. Forget it.
- so why didn't you?
How is there enough competition?
- well obviously there is probably 5 times as much competition as in land lines.
Now if there are companies that are trying, as you are implying 'to stifle' competition, that's a valid argument, that can be looked at, but clearly setting up your own wireless network is much cheaper and simpler than laying down cable, even with spectrum license costs. AT&T monopoly was created by government involvement in the first place, government basically nationalized the land lines and gave control to one company, that's not the case for the wireless.
What should be happening is of-course a sane approach to radio spectrum sharing.
There is much more competition in wireless than in wired land lines, which are common carriers.
In wireless there is enough competition, the barriers of entry are much lower, anybody with some money can buy/rent a few pieces of land and install their own cell towers.
So if a company builds network infrastructure by itself without any help from any government, shouldn't it be able to sell a service with a contract that explicitly discriminates against anything they wish?
A contract is a contract in that case, and with no government money involvement, who is to tell a company like that what exactly they should be selling.
Do you NOT consider the military to be a parasite? Obviously if there is a legitimate reason to have SOME military: protecting borders from foreign invasion, then it is a useful service. However as I said, when government gets TOO big it becomes TOO MUCH of a parasite. The elective wars that government is running are all manifestations of the government parasitic nature.
Sure, the people will be employed and they will receive their nominal paychecks.
Unfortunately these people will STILL be a burden on the society.
1. People employed by government work on government projects, which are designed specifically to reduce unemployment but not to improve economy.
2. Improving economy means creating jobs that actually produce valuable THINGS that people WANT especially things that can be EXPORTED.
3. USA is running a trade deficit, which is the actual reason the economy is shit. Some argue that the reason economy is bad is because the rich are not taxed enough, which is complete nonsense. Federal Income Taxes are only there to pay for Federal Government Expenses. However Federal Government has NO PROBLEM PAYING for expenses FOR NOW. They print t-bills and bonds and they print dollars. T-bills and bonds become their debt and printing cash simply increases inflation. However Federal Government is NOT firing people. It is NOT cutting expenses. It is still SPENDING at an increased rate, for example the number of troops in Afghanistan went up under Obama, not down and the Federal Government is paying for this. Of-course Federal Government cannot repay the DEBT, but nobody asked it to repay the debt YET. Once that becomes a problem, I expect the Fed simply to print more USD and to create hyper-inflation to buy back all of those debt obligations. So it is nonsense to say that cutting income taxes lead to the economic collapse, because nobody felt the effects of the Federal Government not paying its expenses YET. In 2008 when the housing bubble burst, even then the Federal Government continued to pay for its expenses, in fact at that time even more t-bills were printed as foreign banks thought that US government is a more credible debtor than the private banks.
4. The reason why US economy is dead is the same why the USD will collapse after the Fed is revealed to be bankrupt and will print USD out of existence. The reason is loss of Production Capacity and the resulting Trade Deficit.
5. Production Capacity and Trade Deficit CANNOT BE ADDRESSED BY GOVERNMENT JOBS!!!
So this is an absurd statement saying that just employing people by the government to do useless work (useless in terms of reducing the trade deficit) will be beneficial for the US economy. USSR has done this and it fell apart, it had plenty of such public projects where millions of people were 'employed' working for nominal fiat currency, enough for them to eat basically, when in reality they would have been better of if they were allowed to work for themselves and not taxed on their income, so they could save and then create their own businesses.
Government is a destructive force, which produces nothing of any value, a parasite on a society, and it shows especially clearly when the economy starts to collapse.
Taxes are money, money is only good if it buys something. Rural areas produce Food and Energy (and other things, like cotton for clothing for example), those are actual THINGS that people WANT. Not money, which is paper.
When things go to shit, it's not going to be those with the largest amounts of cash that will survive, it will be those who can make their own food and energy and clothing and shelter themselves, who will survive.
When society creates too much government, it has nowhere to go but down. The economy will have nowhere to go but down.
It's because there are too many people, who become leeches on society, they are unproductive, they don't do anything useful and they start coming up with justifications for their own existence and leeching, they don't do anything useful anymore, they are just parasites.
Government is a parasite of society - produces nothing, takes away everything it possibly can.
don't you feel that you are living in an increasingly a police state, where the cops' and generally the government actions are always above the law and justified and the citizens actions are more and more criminalized?
You know, I see some folks gloating that this will hurt image of Java.
It will hurt image of Java, especially if Google loses.
But do you understand what is happening here? The patents that are claimed to be violated are on such obvious things as using offsets, mixing interpreted and inlined compiled code, assigning properties that are security restrictions onto pieces of code, copying memory to do forking of code fast, things like that.
It's insane, this really is crazy, the patents are killing the field.
Does ANYBODY LIKE ORACLE?
I fucking HATE Oracle. Their database is relatively OK, but their management is SCO-like, and in my vocabulary it means: they are pieces of bull excrement.
I HATE Oracle with passion, I was contracting for BellTV for a bunch of years, we had Oracle salesmen in sheep closing, pretending to be developers/analysts/designers, whatever, they were marketing/sales people, they were pushing Oracle solutions for everything, they HATE competition from anything, try to spread FUD on all others.
But this is also NOT about Oracle, just like it is NOT about Java.
This is about the entire concept of patents.
Patents need to be stopped. Patents need to be killed. All patents, on all things. Economies are dying now for the sake of saving patents. Innovation is killed for the sake of saving patents.
I just returned from an embassy, I needed to do a simple thing, don't want to get into details, but the amount of paperwork, translation of documents that really didn't have anything to do with the question at hand, notarization of all documents, various signatures, etc., and then payments, payments, payments, payments, all of this means that there is an entire ARMY of people who are not actually producing anything and whose only reason there it seems to make things more difficult than they should be while charging for it.
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Well what it could do, at least for some people, is call motives in to question
- OK, so let's say Assange is found guilty of some crime and in fact let's even say that his motives ARE questionable.
Here is the answer to all of that: his motives don't matter, we must still get all the information that wikileaks provides, it's our information, it needs to be opened.
JA seems really attracted to standing in the limelight
- factually incorrect.
The guy was VERY much invisible for the longest time, he only started showing up on the radar very lately, this coincided with him being linked to releasing the documents that US government does not want to see released. He is hiding in plain sight, that's why he is more visible now, otherwise he could have been dead by now.
Now they are not going to kill him physically, just imprison him.
As I said, if she thinks she can make MORE money because she is so talented, why doesn't she move to a private school?
Why doesn't she open her own school?
We do not pay people who are talented.
We pay people who make money in some way.
You don't even NEED large payoffs, you just need to intimidate someone and THAT is much easier done than some may think.
Have you or your relatives ever under-reported your income for any of the previous years?
Have you ever been involved in any even slightly illegal activity?
Also would you be scared if you or your relatives or friends were threatened by a government agency if you didn't do what they told you to do?
Just saying, you don't even need money. It's even better if there is no money involved, only some threats that are not perceived as idle.
Why are you painting everybody with the same brush?
On the Reiser case I was very much expecting him to be the culprit, I have multiple comments here on that issue, however I have a little more insider knowledge of the family problems that were experienced there, my wife's sister was Nina's good friend.
However in this case, I have very very high doubts about Assange being guilty of rape, but I don't exclude it 100%, it's just there is very high possibility he was set up by US government, and it's no joke, they know how to handle people they hate and to turn opinion to their advantage, I am surprised the charge isn't 'Child Porn' + 'Child Rape', I guess they didn't go as far as hiring a child and raping it, and setting up Assange for doing that, but I am not sure WHY they didn't do it, I fully expect a government to do that with no moral problems whatsoever.
What does that mean, "pay talent what talent deserves"?
I have a real talent for jerking off, it took years to master, I should get paid for that wonderful talent. So who is interested in paying?
--
Your argument is absurd. In real world we don't pay people simply because they have talent. People get paid because someone is making money.
A talented basketball player makes money for the investors.
A talented software developer makes money for a company.
A talented thief controls High Frequency Trade transaction house.
Another talented thief controls money flow from many people to a small subset.
A talented plastic surgeon gets paid for his work and discretion.
etc.
--
The REAL talent in this case is the UNION, it gets a LOT of people paid for doing very very little, sure some do more, but most do very little, that's what a union does, that's what it is all about. Used to be that a union was really built by people dying on floors of factories, that's not what today's unions are about, especially GOVERNMENT unions!
If your mother is so talented yet she feels that she is financially unappreciated, she has a choice of working in a private school, isn't that so? In fact if her talents are in high DEMAND then she can tutor people for much MORE money than she'd be making in a school, and eventually with that money that she could save, she could open her own private school, why not?
It's not that I am questioning talent of your mother, I have no idea, but the entire point is that you can have the best talents but nobody cares, and nor SHOULD they! Can she apply her talents so that people would want to give her more money, that's the question.
Relevant, if Belgium is a non-country then there is no story.
You have a charisma of a damp rag, and appearance of a low grade bank clerk. And the question that I want to ask is: WHO ARE YOU? I've never heard of you, nobody in Europe had ever heard of you! I would like to ask you, president, who voted for you? And what mechanism?... Oh, I know democracy is not popular with you. And what mechanism people of Europe have to remove you? Is this European democracy? Well I sense, I sense though, that you are competent and capable and dangerous. And I don't doubt that it is your intention to be the quiet assassin of European democracy and of European nation states. You appear to have a loathing for very concept of existing of nation states, perhaps that's because you come from Belgium, which of-course is pretty much a non-country. But since you took over we've seen Greece reduced to nothing more than a protectorate. Sir, you have no legitimacy in this job at all, and I can say with confidence that I can speak on behalf of the majority of the British people in saying: we don't know you, we don't want you and the sooner you are put out to grass, the better!
Of-course I like the way AutoTune The News did this better.
Your solution is a radar when cops don't even bother to try and catch the culprits in a place with NO traffic lights even?
Sure, right, I believe there is a form for this on the Internet, the kind that gives you a bunch of checkboxes to fill in and then at the end gives you the result why your solution is not 'practical, politically/economically viable, etc.'.
By the way, seems to me what would happen to ANY radar/camera in a place like this is that it will be stolen in moments or destroyed some other way.
I believe that all copies of this book must be immediately destroyed because this was the wish of the original authors.
1) Oracle is suing Java over Android.
- I am suing my knees, they fucking hurt.
I was going to moderate in this discussion. Forget it.
- so why didn't you?
How is there enough competition?
- well obviously there is probably 5 times as much competition as in land lines.
Now if there are companies that are trying, as you are implying 'to stifle' competition, that's a valid argument, that can be looked at, but clearly setting up your own wireless network is much cheaper and simpler than laying down cable, even with spectrum license costs. AT&T monopoly was created by government involvement in the first place, government basically nationalized the land lines and gave control to one company, that's not the case for the wireless.
What should be happening is of-course a sane approach to radio spectrum sharing.
How about wireless?
There is much more competition in wireless than in wired land lines, which are common carriers.
In wireless there is enough competition, the barriers of entry are much lower, anybody with some money can buy/rent a few pieces of land and install their own cell towers.
So if a company builds network infrastructure by itself without any help from any government, shouldn't it be able to sell a service with a contract that explicitly discriminates against anything they wish?
A contract is a contract in that case, and with no government money involvement, who is to tell a company like that what exactly they should be selling.
didn't he say already to go ahead and do your part to solve this problem by committing suicide?
Pacman would probably make a WAKA WAKA WAKA WAKA kind of a president. Not much different from the usual candidates.
Absolutely.
Do you NOT consider the military to be a parasite? Obviously if there is a legitimate reason to have SOME military: protecting borders from foreign invasion, then it is a useful service. However as I said, when government gets TOO big it becomes TOO MUCH of a parasite. The elective wars that government is running are all manifestations of the government parasitic nature.
Sure, the people will be employed and they will receive their nominal paychecks.
Unfortunately these people will STILL be a burden on the society.
1. People employed by government work on government projects, which are designed specifically to reduce unemployment but not to improve economy.
2. Improving economy means creating jobs that actually produce valuable THINGS that people WANT especially things that can be EXPORTED.
3. USA is running a trade deficit, which is the actual reason the economy is shit. Some argue that the reason economy is bad is because the rich are not taxed enough, which is complete nonsense. Federal Income Taxes are only there to pay for Federal Government Expenses. However Federal Government has NO PROBLEM PAYING for expenses FOR NOW. They print t-bills and bonds and they print dollars. T-bills and bonds become their debt and printing cash simply increases inflation. However Federal Government is NOT firing people. It is NOT cutting expenses. It is still SPENDING at an increased rate, for example the number of troops in Afghanistan went up under Obama, not down and the Federal Government is paying for this. Of-course Federal Government cannot repay the DEBT, but nobody asked it to repay the debt YET. Once that becomes a problem, I expect the Fed simply to print more USD and to create hyper-inflation to buy back all of those debt obligations. So it is nonsense to say that cutting income taxes lead to the economic collapse, because nobody felt the effects of the Federal Government not paying its expenses YET. In 2008 when the housing bubble burst, even then the Federal Government continued to pay for its expenses, in fact at that time even more t-bills were printed as foreign banks thought that US government is a more credible debtor than the private banks.
4. The reason why US economy is dead is the same why the USD will collapse after the Fed is revealed to be bankrupt and will print USD out of existence. The reason is loss of Production Capacity and the resulting Trade Deficit.
5. Production Capacity and Trade Deficit CANNOT BE ADDRESSED BY GOVERNMENT JOBS!!!
So this is an absurd statement saying that just employing people by the government to do useless work (useless in terms of reducing the trade deficit) will be beneficial for the US economy. USSR has done this and it fell apart, it had plenty of such public projects where millions of people were 'employed' working for nominal fiat currency, enough for them to eat basically, when in reality they would have been better of if they were allowed to work for themselves and not taxed on their income, so they could save and then create their own businesses.
Government is a destructive force, which produces nothing of any value, a parasite on a society, and it shows especially clearly when the economy starts to collapse.
oh, if only 'tax revenue' meant something.
Taxes are money, money is only good if it buys something. Rural areas produce Food and Energy (and other things, like cotton for clothing for example), those are actual THINGS that people WANT. Not money, which is paper.
When things go to shit, it's not going to be those with the largest amounts of cash that will survive, it will be those who can make their own food and energy and clothing and shelter themselves, who will survive.
Services such as police, fire department and land management are a local issue, not a federal one.
When society creates too much government, it has nowhere to go but down. The economy will have nowhere to go but down.
It's because there are too many people, who become leeches on society, they are unproductive, they don't do anything useful and they start coming up with justifications for their own existence and leeching, they don't do anything useful anymore, they are just parasites.
Government is a parasite of society - produces nothing, takes away everything it possibly can.
I have disappeared already
don't you feel that you are living in an increasingly a police state, where the cops' and generally the government actions are always above the law and justified and the citizens actions are more and more criminalized?
You know, I see some folks gloating that this will hurt image of Java.
It will hurt image of Java, especially if Google loses.
But do you understand what is happening here? The patents that are claimed to be violated are on such obvious things as using offsets, mixing interpreted and inlined compiled code, assigning properties that are security restrictions onto pieces of code, copying memory to do forking of code fast, things like that.
It's insane, this really is crazy, the patents are killing the field.
Does ANYBODY LIKE ORACLE?
I fucking HATE Oracle. Their database is relatively OK, but their management is SCO-like, and in my vocabulary it means: they are pieces of bull excrement.
I HATE Oracle with passion, I was contracting for BellTV for a bunch of years, we had Oracle salesmen in sheep closing, pretending to be developers/analysts/designers, whatever, they were marketing/sales people, they were pushing Oracle solutions for everything, they HATE competition from anything, try to spread FUD on all others.
But this is also NOT about Oracle, just like it is NOT about Java.
This is about the entire concept of patents.
Patents need to be stopped. Patents need to be killed. All patents, on all things. Economies are dying now for the sake of saving patents. Innovation is killed for the sake of saving patents.
Anybody for patents is my enemy.
I just returned from an embassy, I needed to do a simple thing, don't want to get into details, but the amount of paperwork, translation of documents that really didn't have anything to do with the question at hand, notarization of all documents, various signatures, etc., and then payments, payments, payments, payments, all of this means that there is an entire ARMY of people who are not actually producing anything and whose only reason there it seems to make things more difficult than they should be while charging for it.
That's all I see governments as - leeches.
it's really more of a hot ragout, so there you go, the fancy words we actually use.