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  1. Re:long history of cutting corners on BP Says "Top Kill" Operation Has Failed · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    As an engineer, I take offense when people come up with stuff off the top of their head and assume that teams of professionals haven't considered the same options and rationally analyzed the feasibility.

    ^^ this. Your statement is complete and utter bullshit when related to this situation. No, they have not rationally considered the options and have not rationally analyzed the feasibility. They are doing exactly the same thing they have been doing for the past 30 years at least. The current oil spill is a mirror image of the Ixtoc disaster, the difference is just how deep they are drilling. They couldn't stop the spill in 50 meters of water with the blow out preventer, it did not work then, didn't work now; with the 'sombrero' = 'top hat', with the 'junk shot'= some metal balls they were throwing into the well then, they couldn't stop the leak with pumping the mud='top kill' etc.

    You can take all the offense you like, but this is simply the truth. Engineers are not running BP or Transocean or Halliburton. Engineers matter only to the question: how much more money can we dig out of the earth and not: how do we deal with a disaster we may cause.

  2. Re:Expect repost.... from 1979! on BP Says "Top Kill" Operation Has Failed · · Score: 1

    It has not advanced for plugging oil leaks at all. It was completely, totally stagnant for decades. The proof is very simple: Ixtoc disaster. Every single thing they are doing now directly corresponds to every single thing they have done then. The final solution? 9 months later they drilled the last relief well.

  3. Re:Expect repost.... from 1979! on BP Says "Top Kill" Operation Has Failed · · Score: 1

    Perhaps. They better be tough enough to withstand 150Atm of pressure.

  4. Re:long history of cutting corners on BP Says "Top Kill" Operation Has Failed · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    What I think is that they are lying every second of every day, I don't see a single reason to believe a thing they are saying and the only 'advancement' for the past 30 years since Ixtoc was that they decided to change names of their failed attempts to stop the oil gushing.

    They used to call the cone, that they tried putting over the leaking well a 'Sombrero'. Now they call it 'Top Hat'.

  5. Re:long history of cutting corners on BP Says "Top Kill" Operation Has Failed · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Thank god we have you here to tell us how to do it. In all seriousness, the reason they don't "just simply do

    - you are an ass. For decades the oil drilling companies have come up with nothing at all, my point is that there are probably things better than nothing that can be done.

    You're talking depths of over one mile. Do you know how much pressure there is that deep? I'm willing to bet that you don't

    - you are an ass. 10 meters of water = 1 atm, were I went to school it was explained in the 6th grade, which was at age of 12.

    Do you know how to power "large propellers that would add dynamic push to the static, gravity added push against the leak." a mile under water?

    - you are an ass. People have been powering things under water for a hundred years at least. One possibility is to run a cable from a ship on top, that could power that with nuclear or diesel.

    What the fuck? Do you know how to get these "large legos" into a hole that is

    - you are an ass. I said place enough containers on top of the ocean floor that depending on the leak size, connect them together. What is the best way to connect them together is an engineering question. How many of them should be dropped is a question of total leak magnitude and force.

    (how wide? Surely you must know, you're apparently the fucking expert on this shit.)

    - you are an ass. I precisely said that I am no expert on this shit but that the so called experts have done Absolutely nothing in decades to improve any of their procedures have obviously failed in the past and are failing now.

    while exactly (how many?) BARRELS of oil rush out per minute?

    - you are an ass. BP Specifically would not allow scientists anywhere near the leak so that they could not ever tell anyone how much oil is siphoning out.

    Yes, oil companies should be required to have solutions for stopping leaks such as this, but could everyone please stop putting out their nonsense "engineering solutions" out there.

    - you are an ass. Who are you to tell people what they should and should not be putting out there?

    The situation isn't as simple as you think and people smarter than you are working on this.

    - you are an ass. As far as people working on this being smarter than me, that is totally your own conjecture and is not a fact.

    If you came up with it in 10 seconds then it WON'T FUCKING WORK.

    - you are an ass. Many things can be improved or thought of in 10 seconds, but the implementation with all the necessary calculations take much longer than that and I was quite specific on the fact that I am not providing a calculated solution but a cursory idea that the oil companies don't look at.

    STOP ADDING TO THE NOISE BY SPEWING MORE FUCKING BULLSHIT.

    - you are an ass. Follow your own advice.

    That's exactly the LAST thing we fucking need right now.

    - you are an ass. Who the fuck is 'we'?

    what an ass.

  6. Re:long history of cutting corners on BP Says "Top Kill" Operation Has Failed · · Score: 1

    because it took 9 months to 'fix' the Ixtoc well leak and that only was in 50 meters of water.

  7. Re:Top Kill on BP Says "Top Kill" Operation Has Failed · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would add the following few lists to the above.

  8. Top Kill on BP Says "Top Kill" Operation Has Failed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have another idea for an operation with a name 'Top Kill'.

    Here are the details.

  9. Re:Expect repost.... from 1979! on BP Says "Top Kill" Operation Has Failed · · Score: 1

    9 months? That's for a well that started only 50 meters below the ocean. Here the depth is 1500 meters. I takes more than one try to drill the relief well into the right place - to puncture the current shaft. I think it may take years to do this right.

  10. Re:long history of cutting corners on BP Says "Top Kill" Operation Has Failed · · Score: 0

    Fifth amendment not to testify? Well, isn't the next step to start a criminal investigation against all of these people, including all of the top management in all of the companies involved?

    On the issue of the spill, the Ixtoc spill in 1979 happened about 160km into the gulf and at about 50 meters of water and they did EXACTLY the same thing as they were doing this time, so obviously it did not work then, it's not working now and it will not work. The only thing they know how to do is drill, not to stop the consequences of failed drilling. So their 'bottom kill', or drilling a relief well (likely more than one) and then inserting mud and cement from the bottom of the current well is the only way that BP/Transocean/Halliburton know how to do.

    This Oil spill needs to be stopped now, it took 9 months to fix it in the Ixtoc disaster in 50 meters of water, it will take YEARS to do this here. By the time they stop the spill, the Gulf of Mexico will be gone. It will be totally annihilated and not only gulf of Mexico (I read someone write this as Guelph of a Mexican, I thought it was funny).

    Nuke it. Calculate the necessary force to collapse the shaft, put the nuke where it should be (probably somewhat under the ocean floor to one side of the well shaft). I would also drop a bunch of shipping containers filled with rocks on top of this place just in case first, then nuke it.

    In fact I think the drilling must be all stopped until there is a procedure to stop a leak like this within a week rather than taking months or years.

    As an idea for the future development: how about preparing giant metal containers that can interlock together and can be filled with rocks, that could be dropped or lowered to the bottom of the ocean together or one by one and then a mechanism to interlock them so that they could be set on top of a leak like this and then connected together and pushed down maybe with ability to dig into the ocean floor to anchor themselves, like a Lego system that would put a heavy metal floor on top of the ocean floor and would just press down against a leak like this altogether, possibly aided by large propellers that would add dynamic push to the static, gravity added push against the leak.

    Of-course this is just of top of the head and maybe stupid, but I don't see this guys coming up with ANYTHING NEW at all for decades now. The same shit they tried 30 years ago for Ixtoc and what they always try is the same shit that did not work 30 years ago, is not working today and probably just cannot work at all.

  11. Re:Makes sense on What Scientists Really Think About Religion · · Score: 1

    Ethical and moral but not literal?

    I NEED you to explain to me how the following passage can be translated from this 'figurative' to 'literal' while still staying 'moral' or 'ethical':

    Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT
          However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.

    Exodus 21:2-6 NLT:
    If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever.

    Exodus 21:7-11 NLT:
    When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.

    Exodus 21:20-21 NAB:
    When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.

    Ephesians 6:5 NLT:
    Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.

    1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT:
            Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them.

    Luke 12:47-48 NLT:
      The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given."

    can anybody claim that religious texts do not try to control the poor people by creating mentality of slavery in them? Is any of the above good or ethical or moral?

    ---
    I am an atheist for my reasons, which are that I must have some evidence for me to believe in such extraordinary claims as religions present. However even if I weren't an atheist for those reasons, I would still be against religions based on the information about what religions do to people: try and turn them into slaves, justify slavery and slave owners.

    Fuck religions.
    Fuck Judaism.
    Fuck Christianity.
    Fuck Mahommedanism (Islam).
    Fuck Buddhism (I don't give a shit if Buddhism is any 'better', to me all religions are a poison for the mind).
    Fuck Hinduism.
    Fuck Paganism.
    Fuck them all, etc.etc.

  12. Re:But what was the point? on What Scientists Really Think About Religion · · Score: 1

    Could this simple message, only casually hidden, have helped people you've known in your life?

    - I don't subscribe to your definition of the word 'help'.

    If lying to people = helping them, then I want nothing to do with it.

  13. Re:Okay, who broke the Sun? on The Sun's Odd Behavior · · Score: 1

    I guess Mr. Burns got his hands on something bigger than just a giant umbrella.

  14. Re:Security? on How Viruses Evolve Into All-Purpose Malware · · Score: 1

    Police? They'll not provide you with any security at all. By the time the cops get involved there is already a body on the ground.

    Military providing security? Like how? After US military has invaded Iraq, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of civilians Iraqis were killed. Is THAT security?

  15. This video is not available in your country. on Iron Baby · · Score: 1

    In Germany here is what shows when you try to watch the video: This video is not available in your country.

    I don't think too many proxies would be to happy to have to pump youtube videos through.

    This whole 'you cannot watch it in this country or in that country' is ridiculous.

  16. choose an interesting problem to look at on How To Get a Game-Obsessed Teenager Into Coding? · · Score: 1

    Maybe the way to do this is to choose a problem that can be seen as interesting and then to go through coding up a solution for it together, concentrating on the algorithm of-course.

    The problem surely is finding an interesting topic. When I taught myself coding I didn't have anything better than doing it to create computer games, the kinds of games that people played on Atari or Commodore or Sinclair or Spectrum computers about 25 years ago (goddamn, that was long ago).

    I didn't have anybody to pose a more worthwhile problem for me to solve, so it progressed for me from simple games (which I wrote on paper, since I didn't have a computer), then I got my hands on a great Assembler book and became interested in doing the same thing but better, with my own graphics libraries, low level interrupts etc. Then I wrote tools to manipulate files, to cut them, to sew them back together etc. Then I wrote my graphics editors, text editors, calculators, language tutors even a rudimentary spreadsheet to keep track of the spending in the family, we even used it.

    I think you need to choose a subject, be it an engineering problem, a physics problem a math problem, something about learning languages or writing tools, I don't know what kind would be interesting for a child that old, then build a solution together.

  17. Re:And the moral is: on Sudden Demand For Logicians On Wall Street · · Score: 1

    To me it really does not matter because of what I hold (guess what), to others and generally to the economy it is a death trap.

  18. Re:And the moral is: on Sudden Demand For Logicians On Wall Street · · Score: 1

    Taxation is not the ultimate power, printing money is.

    The reasons for is that it is not possible for a state (US for example) to pay for all of its programs with just the tax money, but more importantly, a government that keeps raising taxes will not stay in power for too long. By printing money the effect is the same as through taxes, only more insidious, because it implies constant taxation, double, triple, quadriple, etc. The tax upon a tax upon a tax. That's what printing of money is.

  19. Re:Well at least... on Sudden Demand For Logicians On Wall Street · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, you are wrong and it's not funny because your ideas are the same that lead to economic collapse that is being observed currently.

    Reagan era 'deregulation' that just 'happened' to coincide with the fall of the USSR and beginning of globalization and movement of the jobs to cheaper places. Jobs are moved by Monopolies, show me one monopoly that does not rely on government(s) to become/continue being a monopoly.

    Government creates monopolies and destroys economy by creating them and pushing the idea of consumption over idea of production by artificially lowering interest rates on money, which they can do because they print money and give it to the preferred monopoly corporations in the first place.

    I VALUE PRODUCTION. Gold is a store of value when other currencies fail and governments are the reasons that currencies fail. Once the USD and other currencies are out, gold will be reused again, just like every time before to restart economy of production.

  20. Re:Trying to grip the issues involved... on UK Home Office Set To Scrap National ID Cards · · Score: 1

    I Finland everyone has a national identification number. ...
    I don't have a problem with having a number assigned to me. ...

    I Gattaca this motion.

  21. Re:in other news, cementing the BP CEO has started on Gulf Oil Leak Plugged? · · Score: 1

    BP has done nothing to limit the damage to the coast lines, it was the weather that has done something about it for sometime, until the wind couldn't help any longer. They didn't put any booms correctly, ones that they put were done in a way that prevented nothing. They didn't erect barriers. AFAIC they have done nothing to prevent damage and this so called top kill procedure will most likely fail.

    It will most likely fail like it failed in the Gulf in 1979 in 50 Meters of water only.

    They tried a dome over the well there, they tried the top kill, they tried the 'junk shot', all of those things failed and only a relief well solved it after 9 months of drilling.

    Oh, and they 'only' spilled 3,000,000 barrels of oil into the ocean that time.

  22. Re:in other news, cementing the BP CEO has started on Gulf Oil Leak Plugged? · · Score: 1

    snake's foreskin? Why, is he a mohel? Was the snake Jewish?

  23. wow on UK Home Office Set To Scrap National ID Cards · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A government that actually gives up some power over people. I am speechless.

  24. Great news on A Genetically Engineered Fly That Can Smell Light · · Score: 3, Funny

    Finally, we have been able to achieve what we always needed: flies that can compete with human art critics.

    On the other hand these flies are not as advanced as Arizona lawmakers, who apparently can feel if one is an illegal alien by 'looking at brands of shoes' (incidentally, will this not force the cops to hire a disproportional number of gays into service?)

  25. Re:And the moral is: on Sudden Demand For Logicians On Wall Street · · Score: 1

    one more thing to add to my seemingly lengthy reply: you obviously do not have your own position on this, you want to direct me to a movie that you watched, that's wonderful. How about you state your case for why I need to see that movie (which I might or might not have seen, I am not going to tell you), and why is it, if you have an actual position that you understood logically, you can't phrase it yourself?