I like all of their stuff (yes, I even liked Load/ReLoad/S&M). I used to hate St. Anger with a passion, but I was converted after watching 'Some Kind of Monster'. While I still have a hard time getting into the songs individually, I can appreciate the album as a whole given what the band went through during that phase.
Maybe we'll get lucky and Metallica's next release will be their return to form, a la Megadeth's 'United Abominations'.
Your second paragraph is what I was trying to say.
Most don't seem to understand that Jesus' teachings are perfectly in line with modern day ideals: Don't judge others, leave that to God (the basis for my 'I don't believe you are evil and worthy of Hell' statement, since I refuse to judge how God feels about someone); love your neighbor as yourself (isn't this the basis of modern day liberalism?); condemnation of hypocrisy from those who call themselves Holy (how many filthy rich televangelists do you know, or greedy/hateful Christians?); take care of the poor and hungry; care for the children of the world; meet hostility and anger with peace and goodwill; and be willing to sacrifice for another, even 'giving him the tunic off your back'.
These have become lost through time, as you've stated. Centuries of piling dogma on top of simple concepts has done this, as religious leaders came to realize that they could control the population with their teachings, even going so far as killing in Jesus' name. Jesus would not have went for that at all. Why else would he forgive all of those who hurt him? He was very much a bleeding-heart liberal, at least for his time.:P
For those of you who are atheists or non-Christians, it's fine to disagree with me and tell me that there's pretty much no chance my God could exist, and you're free to exercise that right. However, grouping me in with 'fundamentalists' who preach hatred from peace bothers me, especially since I've debated those same people. I refuse to provide cover for them. I don't hurt anyone with my faith and I keep it personal. I've never forced it on anyone, so why hate me for it?
If anything, hate the dogma and the pain that people have caused in the name of God, but remember those who would call for the same type of justice you would.
And not meaning to be redundant (or anecdotal), this is my experience as well. Most of the Christians I know feel the same way as the parent. Christianity suffers from the same problem evolution does from their opponents: ignorance and hatred. Only an ignorant person would claim that evolution doesn't happen. Likewise, I think only an ignorant person could claim that Christianity has no redeeming qualities, and that Christians have done nothing for the world.
I just think it's sad that there is so much hypocrisy from dogmatic Christians. Jesus said, "Love thy neighbor," and somehow that got turned into, "KILL EVERYONE THAT DOES NOT BELIEVE LIKE YOU!" His call to take care of the poor and the children of the world has become, "Rape the poor for every cent they have and leave them to the wolves." They believe that Jesus fulfilled the Old Testament law, yet they still cling desperately to it to milk all the parts they can get away with.
Ironically that comes from the so called 'fundamentalists' who, instead of believing in the fundamentals of their faith, make use of the centuries of dogma piled up onto their belief system. Maybe a return to the fundamentals for Christians is what they truly need: Love and care for each other. Not just your fellow Christians, but everyone and everything.
Side note: That reminds me of one of the things that was spoken about in my church when this war in the middle east began: "You have to remember that God not only loves you all, but the people of Afghanistan, Iraq, and all over, regardless of their country or religion. You should want to seek a quick end to this conflict. It's not good for us to praise the slaughter of any human."
It is very disconcerting to be a science-loving geeky type, yet be told that I'm inherently irrational, that my opinions can be ignored simply because I believe there is more to the world beyond chemical processes. I don't think it makes me a better person, but I do think that I have the right to be rational AND have my own personal faith.
So yeah, I'd like to join the parent and say, "I apologize for the extremists. I apologize for the hatred and bigotry. I'm sorry that they've used my faith as a tool for their own political purposes. I'm sorry that atheists and non-Christians have been labeled as evil and worthy of Hell. I don't agree with it, I don't support it, and I don't like it. I refuse to defend it, and I've called some of my own friends out on it before. Don't lump the rest of us in with these guys."
So please remember... the next time you're on your anti-religious rant that there are many of us who aren't ignorant idiots. It really gets to me and sometimes makes me wonder if I'm even welcome, despite the other 99.9999999999% common ground. Seriously, there's a lot there! I'll prove it: "lolmicrosoft" "lolvotingmachines" "lolriaa":D
When you make yourself out to be the bad guy (suing grandmothers, preteens, dead people, etc) you really open yourself up to this sort of thing. Nobody likes it when the good guy gets his face bashed in, but everyone cheers when the bad guy gets blindsided... doubly so when the situation is as ironic as this.
So yeah, this story is going to show up a lot of hypocrisy, because that is what it's about!
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What is this about semitic nazis?
I read that as 'Customers do make great cushions, after all.' I think I've worked in support for far too long...
Rectal probe anyone?
How does I knowed am sick w/o one?
Suddenly, impeachment looks like a really, really bad idea.
You can assume a rock exists until it gets renamed a dwarf rockate or somesuch.
No we didn't.
We didn't do anything except remove the bugs the French introduced.
I like all of their stuff (yes, I even liked Load/ReLoad/S&M). I used to hate St. Anger with a passion, but I was converted after watching 'Some Kind of Monster'. While I still have a hard time getting into the songs individually, I can appreciate the album as a whole given what the band went through during that phase.
Maybe we'll get lucky and Metallica's next release will be their return to form, a la Megadeth's 'United Abominations'.
He then asked what the reporter's name was, but then stated in no uncertain terms that, quote:
"It doesn't matter what your name is!"
No. With my luck, I'd be right in its path and be incinerated.
I'd rather glow a delightful lime color prior to death. That'd be pretty awesome.
Your second paragraph is what I was trying to say.
Most don't seem to understand that Jesus' teachings are perfectly in line with modern day ideals: Don't judge others, leave that to God (the basis for my 'I don't believe you are evil and worthy of Hell' statement, since I refuse to judge how God feels about someone); love your neighbor as yourself (isn't this the basis of modern day liberalism?); condemnation of hypocrisy from those who call themselves Holy (how many filthy rich televangelists do you know, or greedy/hateful Christians?); take care of the poor and hungry; care for the children of the world; meet hostility and anger with peace and goodwill; and be willing to sacrifice for another, even 'giving him the tunic off your back'.
These have become lost through time, as you've stated. Centuries of piling dogma on top of simple concepts has done this, as religious leaders came to realize that they could control the population with their teachings, even going so far as killing in Jesus' name. Jesus would not have went for that at all. Why else would he forgive all of those who hurt him? He was very much a bleeding-heart liberal, at least for his time.:P
For those of you who are atheists or non-Christians, it's fine to disagree with me and tell me that there's pretty much no chance my God could exist, and you're free to exercise that right. However, grouping me in with 'fundamentalists' who preach hatred from peace bothers me, especially since I've debated those same people. I refuse to provide cover for them. I don't hurt anyone with my faith and I keep it personal. I've never forced it on anyone, so why hate me for it?
If anything, hate the dogma and the pain that people have caused in the name of God, but remember those who would call for the same type of justice you would.
And not meaning to be redundant (or anecdotal), this is my experience as well. Most of the Christians I know feel the same way as the parent. Christianity suffers from the same problem evolution does from their opponents: ignorance and hatred. Only an ignorant person would claim that evolution doesn't happen. Likewise, I think only an ignorant person could claim that Christianity has no redeeming qualities, and that Christians have done nothing for the world.
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I just think it's sad that there is so much hypocrisy from dogmatic Christians. Jesus said, "Love thy neighbor," and somehow that got turned into, "KILL EVERYONE THAT DOES NOT BELIEVE LIKE YOU!" His call to take care of the poor and the children of the world has become, "Rape the poor for every cent they have and leave them to the wolves." They believe that Jesus fulfilled the Old Testament law, yet they still cling desperately to it to milk all the parts they can get away with.
Ironically that comes from the so called 'fundamentalists' who, instead of believing in the fundamentals of their faith, make use of the centuries of dogma piled up onto their belief system. Maybe a return to the fundamentals for Christians is what they truly need: Love and care for each other. Not just your fellow Christians, but everyone and everything.
Side note: That reminds me of one of the things that was spoken about in my church when this war in the middle east began: "You have to remember that God not only loves you all, but the people of Afghanistan, Iraq, and all over, regardless of their country or religion. You should want to seek a quick end to this conflict. It's not good for us to praise the slaughter of any human."
It is very disconcerting to be a science-loving geeky type, yet be told that I'm inherently irrational, that my opinions can be ignored simply because I believe there is more to the world beyond chemical processes. I don't think it makes me a better person, but I do think that I have the right to be rational AND have my own personal faith.
So yeah, I'd like to join the parent and say, "I apologize for the extremists. I apologize for the hatred and bigotry. I'm sorry that they've used my faith as a tool for their own political purposes. I'm sorry that atheists and non-Christians have been labeled as evil and worthy of Hell. I don't agree with it, I don't support it, and I don't like it. I refuse to defend it, and I've called some of my own friends out on it before. Don't lump the rest of us in with these guys."
So please remember... the next time you're on your anti-religious rant that there are many of us who aren't ignorant idiots. It really gets to me and sometimes makes me wonder if I'm even welcome, despite the other 99.9999999999% common ground. Seriously, there's a lot there! I'll prove it: "lolmicrosoft" "lolvotingmachines" "lolriaa"
When you make yourself out to be the bad guy (suing grandmothers, preteens, dead people, etc) you really open yourself up to this sort of thing. Nobody likes it when the good guy gets his face bashed in, but everyone cheers when the bad guy gets blindsided... doubly so when the situation is as ironic as this. So yeah, this story is going to show up a lot of hypocrisy, because that is what it's about!