If you're a major Computer geek like myself, you probably found those CS classes pretty darn boring. I'd like to think anybody who is really a serious computer geek to choose a major which is challenging and new.
So, maybe you'd find a lot of highly technical women taking other courses. Just because you're not a CS major doesn't mean you're going to be a programmer/sys admin.
Shouldn't you be teaching academic skills and not worrying about the job market? Of course schools should consider recent technologies---as better teaching tools. But, leave it up to community colleges to teach word processing and Visual Basic, as well as VC++ under NT.
They are out to install blocking software. And granted, you can prove that each kind of blocking software is flawed one way or another. But, can you meet them halfway-- Can you find a blocking solution that works and satisfies, I think, one of the essential requirements: Openly published block lists.
I'd like to see some sort of push for blocking publishers to release their block lists. It would be icing on the cake to see explainations of why certain sites/services were blocked.
The main argument against installing programs such as SurfWatch and all should be that censorship is being put into the control of corporations. And the libraries will now have no control.
Any large retail business's system running Linux is important. Selling coats doesn't mean they're less relevant, neither is a business that sells dirt or sand or cheeseburgers. Their software is relevant, since POS software is a huge, huge market.
And they are not the ONLY example, but probably the only one they thought of.
I have written the same sorts of programs over and over again. I think you'd find it probably doesn't matter company-to-company that you are using the same code again, since you are using the same brain, so to speak.
I haven't asked anyone yet, but perhaps if you talked with your boss about it, you might convince him to let you release the code. In any case, it doesn't hurt to ask. If the project needs to be done, say as polietly as possible, you'd prefer to release it under the GPL. Claim that people who use it must also release the source, so that in fact, you could have other people work for the company...
The majority of companies don't know much about what open source development is. Heck, I had my boss say he was afraid if we wrote a game for Linux, we'd have to release the source or something. You could always point your browser to some page like freshmeat, and show how many people d/l'd your package, or to the credits list in the Linux kernel, and maybe people would think that's interesting. They might think you have initiative, but at worse, were some geeky computer hobbist, but they like the sound of people who work for free.
It's economics, where you sell things at the price people want to buy them at. DVD owners are willing to pay more, therefore DVD makers make more money.
VHS copies are pretty terrible second or third generation.
I do think that prices suck ass. In places like Japan, CD's are priced so high people rent them.
Most of Microsoft Games (the good ones anyway, not the "Return of the Arcade" serieses) are licenced by Microsoft or published through them. I wonder why such a large company can't get its shit together when it comes to actually making a good game.
(Although they do make a good flight game, MS Flight Simulator being this one exception, though my coworker who works on the project says there are so many people working on it, it's any wonder things get done. It would be cheaper for them to outsource it as well.)
I don't know in fact, but it's likely the hardware is made by a seperate entity. Anyway, the hardware is decent, but definitely not ergonomic, it just looks that way.
This isn't about bullies. This is about one company that destroys other companies. MS can't destroy Linux, so they will destroy standards, make agreements with hardware companies, spread disinformation, etc.
The focus should be on a better system, but clearly attention should be made on resisting the spread of FUD.
Microsoft is the borg, I'm sure if they had their way they'd wipe us out. It's all about their embrace and extend that leads Linux users to resist. We fight back not because we resent MS, but if we don't Linux would die out.
As for "roadmap," I've never seen a use for one. There are certain incremental goals, but it is stupid (in software development) to consider them more than say two years in advance. Things change too rapidly, it is more advantageous to promise less than to promise more and, as we might say, "drive off the road" into oblivion.
MS was about ready to drive off into oblivion, but they got back on track and delivered IE and internet apps. If they were following their "road map," they would have lost to Netscape.
I bet 500 comments are going to show up about now.
It isn't worth discussion. It's clearly just marketing bullshit, FUD, etc. You might as well give up trying to argue about it. (Too bad RedHat and others don't respond when MS dishes it out. You'd think they'd have the money or the balls, alas.)
All the indignation on./ isn't going to matter one bit, so I'd suggest using the energy for something useful.
The industry is about making money. It seems to me that they'll lose nothing when censorship in Australia goes into effect.
It sounds like a way to sell more software, like imagine a new version of Lotus123, with Australian Approved(tm) CensorMate3000 (tm). "Austrialian Brand CensorMate(tm) keeps you legal: Intelligent word count features track the usage of explicatives and racial slurs. AutoCensor(tm) features turn 'shit' and 'fuck' into Australian Approved words as you type!"
I just hope the laws are enough hassle to those who actually have to work harder to provide "censorship approved" content. Maybe some companies would step up and do something about it.
I can't belive the McDonalds of Pizza would spend so much money on a worthless ad campaign like that.
Am I right in saying Pizza Hut has the worst pizza this side of the planet (har har)? Do you think that spamming the atmosphere with their logo will help "redefine their image"? Is there consensus among the Slashdot crowd that Pizza Hut sells not what anyone who has had real pizza would call pizza?
Instead of find new and cheaper ways to sell machine-made bread with bland sauce and Real(r) cheese, wouldn't the world be a happier place without this corporate slop? I would rather see $2.5e spent sending a real rocket at their headquaters.
I think the geek and coder community needs to make a calendar of all the heros of open source, open standards, the internet, etc. Larry Wall would have to be, Mr. June or July or something.
We could have Larry, Linus, the Samba Team, etc. A new face every month. And a couple good quotes to go along with them...
Why isn't Microsoft using those ten engineers to make their product better? What can ten engineers do to help the company researcing the competition. It seems like a clueless response some managers must have thought up. Those ten engineers will eventually come to the conclusion:
1) Linux is more stable than NT, that's why people who need stable servers use it over NT.
2) Linux is cheaper, and runs on cheaper hardware.
3) You can't stop people from developing it.
4) Every day, people are less and less afraid of it, wheres many people are afraid of Microsoft and their "roadmap." People are more conciencious about how they are being abused by Microsoft.
5) Even though Linux has weaknesses, and is slower on 4-way Xenon Intel processors with 4 gigs of ram, etc., Linux is continuously being improved and will eventually be superior.
6) Other companies have interest in seeing Linux succeed, and technologies such as XFS are being given away to help OS's like Linux. The goodwill is spreading like Christmas cheer, and the grinches at Microsoft are eager to spoil the party.
Despite the nasty FUD which will no doubt increasingly come oozing out of Redmond Campus, think of it this way: They're wasting their time. And now, they're wasting even more of their money.
It's the "play the promises" game again. Microsoft makes some vague statement, and people get all excited. It's things like benchmarks, FUD, and vapor ware which really hurt the Linux community.
Hopefully promising "eventually to consider" open source will stall people from going to Linux, right? Why even mention it if they obviously aren't serious, right?
Maybe your hardware is defective, perhaps substandard, or unstandard. It is hard to blame the kernel people for poor hardware support when companies aren't helpful donating drivers or assisting development.
For a rant, it's pretty poliet and informative. Perhaps there are other people with the same problems, who'd like to come out and share?
For certain classes of languages, you can decide if a program halts or not. It would be easy to write a program, as well, which sees if it takes more than, let's say, one hour, and rejects the input.
I can't build one file from the PCMCIA package (3.0.7). In short it gives me this message when building. Everything else works fine (now running pre7)...
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs/clients' egcc -c -O2 -D__KERNEL__ -I../include -I/usr/src/linux/include -DMODVERSIONS -include../include/linux/modversions.h -DMODULE/usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c:1110: parse error before `config_must_be_included_before_module' /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c:1110: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c:1111: parse error before `config_must_be_included_before_module' /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c:1111: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c:1112: parse error before `config_must_be_included_before_module' /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c:1112: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c:1113: parse error before `config_must_be_included_before_module' /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c:1113: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c:1114: parse error before `config_must_be_included_before_module' /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c:1114: warning: data definition has no type or storage class make[1]: *** [8390.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs/clients' make: *** [all] Error 2
Oh and my serial mouse don't work anymore. (My modem does, )
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If you're a major Computer geek like myself, you probably found those CS classes pretty darn boring. I'd like to think anybody who is really a serious computer geek to choose a major which is challenging and new.
So, maybe you'd find a lot of highly technical women taking other courses. Just because you're not a CS major doesn't mean you're going to be a programmer/sys admin.
Shouldn't you be teaching academic skills and not worrying about the job market? Of course schools should consider recent technologies---as better teaching tools. But, leave it up to community colleges to teach word processing and Visual Basic, as well as VC++ under NT.
They are out to install blocking software. And granted, you can prove that each kind of blocking software is flawed one way or another. But, can you meet them halfway-- Can you find a blocking solution that works and satisfies, I think, one of the essential requirements: Openly published block lists.
I'd like to see some sort of push for blocking publishers to release their block lists. It would be icing on the cake to see explainations of why certain sites/services were blocked.
The main argument against installing programs such as SurfWatch and all should be that censorship is being put into the control of corporations. And the libraries will now have no control.
If worst comes to worst, I think RedHat could buy Uruguay and the patent office themselves.
Buy, say a punchcard, so you can get 60 songs for $30 dollars or maybe some songs would be worth more, but in increments of 50 cents.
It would be easy to manage that way. Also, have the web site mention exactly how much percent their cut is.
Any large retail business's system running Linux is important. Selling coats doesn't mean they're less relevant, neither is a business that sells dirt or sand or cheeseburgers. Their software is relevant, since POS software is a huge, huge market.
And they are not the ONLY example, but probably the only one they thought of.
I have written the same sorts of programs over and over again. I think you'd find it probably doesn't matter company-to-company that you are using the same code again, since you are using the same brain, so to speak.
I haven't asked anyone yet, but perhaps if you talked with your boss about it, you might convince him to let you release the code. In any case, it doesn't hurt to ask. If the project needs to be done, say as polietly as possible, you'd prefer to release it under the GPL. Claim that people who use it must also release the source, so that in fact, you could have other people work for the company...
The majority of companies don't know much about what open source development is. Heck, I had my boss say he was afraid if we wrote a game for Linux, we'd have to release the source or something. You could always point your browser to some page like freshmeat, and show how many people d/l'd your package, or to the credits list in the Linux kernel, and maybe people would think that's interesting. They might think you have initiative, but at worse, were some geeky computer hobbist, but they like the sound of people who work for free.
It's economics, where you sell things at the price people want to buy them at. DVD owners are willing to pay more, therefore DVD makers make more money.
VHS copies are pretty terrible second or third generation.
I do think that prices suck ass. In places like Japan, CD's are priced so high people rent them.
Most of Microsoft Games (the good ones anyway, not the "Return of the Arcade" serieses) are licenced by Microsoft or published through them. I wonder why such a large company can't get its shit together when it comes to actually making a good game.
(Although they do make a good flight game, MS Flight Simulator being this one exception, though my coworker who works on the project says there are so many people working on it, it's any wonder things get done. It would be cheaper for them to outsource it as well.)
I don't know in fact, but it's likely the hardware is made by a seperate entity. Anyway, the hardware is decent, but definitely not ergonomic, it just looks that way.
This isn't about bullies. This is about one company that destroys other companies. MS can't destroy Linux, so they will destroy standards, make agreements with hardware companies, spread disinformation, etc.
The focus should be on a better system, but clearly attention should be made on resisting the spread of FUD.
Microsoft is the borg, I'm sure if they had their way they'd wipe us out. It's all about their embrace and extend that leads Linux users to resist. We fight back not because we resent MS, but if we don't Linux would die out.
As for "roadmap," I've never seen a use for one. There are certain incremental goals, but it is stupid (in software development) to consider them more than say two years in advance. Things change too rapidly, it is more advantageous to promise less than to promise more and, as we might say, "drive off the road" into oblivion.
MS was about ready to drive off into oblivion, but they got back on track and delivered IE and internet apps. If they were following their "road map," they would have lost to Netscape.
I bet 500 comments are going to show up about now.
./ isn't going to matter one bit, so I'd suggest using the energy for something useful.
It isn't worth discussion. It's clearly just marketing bullshit, FUD, etc. You might as well give up trying to argue about it. (Too bad RedHat and others don't respond when MS dishes it out. You'd think they'd have the money or the balls, alas.)
All the indignation on
The industry is about making money. It seems to me that they'll lose nothing when censorship in Australia goes into effect.
It sounds like a way to sell more software, like imagine a new version of Lotus123, with Australian Approved(tm) CensorMate3000 (tm). "Austrialian Brand CensorMate(tm) keeps you legal: Intelligent word count features track the usage of explicatives and racial slurs. AutoCensor(tm) features turn 'shit' and 'fuck' into Australian Approved words as you type!"
I just hope the laws are enough hassle to those who actually have to work harder to provide "censorship approved" content. Maybe some companies would step up and do something about it.
I can't belive the McDonalds of Pizza would spend so much money on a worthless ad campaign like that.
Am I right in saying Pizza Hut has the worst pizza this side of the planet (har har)? Do you think that spamming the atmosphere with their logo will help "redefine their image"? Is there consensus among the Slashdot crowd that Pizza Hut sells not what anyone who has had real pizza would call pizza?
Instead of find new and cheaper ways to sell machine-made bread with bland sauce and Real(r) cheese, wouldn't the world be a happier place without this corporate slop? I would rather see $2.5e spent sending a real rocket at their headquaters.
All you need to do is put your laptop in the living room and hook it up to the stereo system. You could do the same in your car as well.
I think the geek and coder community needs to make a calendar of all the heros of open source, open standards, the internet, etc. Larry Wall would have to be, Mr. June or July or something.
We could have Larry, Linus, the Samba Team, etc. A new face every month. And a couple good quotes to go along with them...
Why isn't Microsoft using those ten engineers to make their product better? What can ten engineers do to help the company researcing the competition. It seems like a clueless response some managers must have thought up. Those ten engineers will eventually come to the conclusion:
1) Linux is more stable than NT, that's why people who need stable servers use it over NT.
2) Linux is cheaper, and runs on cheaper hardware.
3) You can't stop people from developing it.
4) Every day, people are less and less afraid of it, wheres many people are afraid of Microsoft and their "roadmap." People are more conciencious about how they are being abused by Microsoft.
5) Even though Linux has weaknesses, and is slower on 4-way Xenon Intel processors with 4 gigs of ram, etc., Linux is continuously being improved and will eventually be superior.
6) Other companies have interest in seeing Linux succeed, and technologies such as XFS are being given away to help OS's like Linux. The goodwill is spreading like Christmas cheer, and the grinches at Microsoft are eager to spoil the party.
Despite the nasty FUD which will no doubt increasingly come oozing out of Redmond Campus, think of it this way: They're wasting their time. And now, they're wasting even more of their money.
Good luck.
It's the "play the promises" game again. Microsoft makes some vague statement, and people get all excited. It's things like benchmarks, FUD, and vapor ware which really hurt the Linux community.
Hopefully promising "eventually to consider" open source will stall people from going to Linux, right? Why even mention it if they obviously aren't serious, right?
Maybe your hardware is defective, perhaps substandard, or unstandard. It is hard to blame the kernel people for poor hardware support when companies aren't helpful donating drivers or assisting development.
For a rant, it's pretty poliet and informative. Perhaps there are other people with the same problems, who'd like to come out and share?
For certain classes of languages, you can decide if a program halts or not. It would be easy to write a program, as well, which sees if it takes more than, let's say, one hour, and rejects the input.
I can't build one file from the PCMCIA package (3.0.7). In short it gives me this message when building. Everything else works fine (now running pre7)...
../include/linux/modversions.h -DMODULE /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs/clients'
egcc -c -O2 -D__KERNEL__ -I../include -I/usr/src/linux/include -DMODVERSIONS -include
/usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c:1110: parse error before `config_must_be_included_before_module'
/usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c:1110: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
/usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c:1111: parse error before `config_must_be_included_before_module'
/usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c:1111: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
/usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c:1112: parse error before `config_must_be_included_before_module'
/usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c:1112: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
/usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c:1113: parse error before `config_must_be_included_before_module'
/usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c:1113: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
/usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c:1114: parse error before `config_must_be_included_before_module'
/usr/src/linux/drivers/net/8390.c:1114: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
make[1]: *** [8390.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs/clients'
make: *** [all] Error 2
Oh and my serial mouse don't work anymore. (My modem does, )