What, just what will it take (seriously now) to get Darl to come clean with his unfounded accusations and allegations of IP infringement? What will it take on our part to completely unravel this charletan (sic) for what he really is? I have read comments here that state this kind of lobbying is too much of a non-issue or too little of a common mans issue to swing legistlatives opinions -- that is while job #1 (getting re-elected of course) is in full swing.
I seriously doubt this kind of rant from the "tech nerd sector" is going to make a tinkers damn bit of difference to Senator So-and-so this year.
Therefore back to the original question: What is it going to take to shut this son'ov'a bitch up?
I had a question regarding "derivative works" and googled "Xenix". Here's what I found:
Xenix
(Redirected from XENIX)
Xenix was Microsoft's version of UNIX for microprocessors. Microsoft called it Xenix because it could not license the "UNIX" name.
Microsoft purchased a license for UNIX 7th Edition from AT&T in 1979, and announced on August 25, 1980 that it would make it available for the 16-bit microcomputer market. Xenix was not sold directly to end users; Microsoft licensed it to computer manufacturers who then ported it to their systems. The first ports of Xenix were to the Zilog Z8001 16-bit processor.
Altos shipped a version for their computers early in 1982, Tandy Corporation shipped one for their 68000-based systems in January 1983, and Santa Cruz Operation (SCO) released their port to the Intel 8086 processor in September 1983.
Xenix varied from its 7th Edition origins by incoporating elements from BSD, and soon possessed the most widely installed base of any Unix flavor due to the popularity of the inexpensive x86 processor, even though the port created for Tandy computers proved to be more robust.
When Microsoft entered into an agreement with IBM to develop OS/2, it lost interest in promoting Xenix. Microsoft transferred ownership of Xenix to SCO in an agreement that left Microsoft owning 25% of SCO. However, Microsoft continued to use Xenix internally, submitting a patch to support functionality in UNIX to AT&T in 1987, which trickled down to the code base of both Xenix and SCO UNIX. Microsoft is said to have used Xenix on VAX minicomputers extensively within their company as late as 1992.
SCO released a version of Xenix for the Intel 286 processor in 1985, and following their port of Xenix to the 386 processor, a 32-bit chip, renamed it SCO UNIX.
Has anyone though this whole SCO vs. the World may actually me a good thing?
Think about it. SCO, while they seem completely harless (litigationwise), and for the most part are, their contribution to Free Software, Open Source, GNU, GPL, and any other open software community is going to be immeasurable.
Hear me out here: SCO, should this all go to "trial", will lose. Period. Thus the arguments SCO has proposed so far will be on legal record and may set precedence for further legal decisions. In this case "what doesn't kill ya, will make ya stronger" might apply!
Of course, I'm sure I am not the only one who's thought of this, and this might just be restating the completely obvious, but we all rant at SCO. I say "Go SCO... Give us all you have. You will lose and this makes the case for GPL (and alikes) stronger." Freedom for all.
As stated countless times, SCO (management) has apparently lost its collective mind. As is the case with a complete paranoid schizophrenic (sic), the posturing is irrelevant.
The best thing the Open Source community can do is to drop any relations with SCO, walk away, and continue to code good works.
At this point, we've gone from defending O/S to humiliating SCO... not that SCO hasn't done a good job of that themselves. Still, the point is moot. SCO has no case. As in the words of my lovely wife "You're arguing with a seven year old."
I'll give up Unix/Linux when....
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... they pry the keyboard from my cold dead fingers.
SCO, MS, and anyone else who advocates such material breach of business ethics, whether self-inflicted or intent on others, should be hauled out, stipped naked, and caned by a very disgruntled Thai corrections officer in the middle of downtown Redmond.
...when Apple decided to go UNIX, I predicted that the popularity of UNIX will skyrocket, not only in users, but developers.
I used to work in Graphics (prepress) and we had Photoshop and Illustrator on IRIX (SGI's UNIX implementation). It ran like a champ. I _KNOW_ there is a port for these programs and I suspected many more. Porting will be less of a problem from MacOS X to/from Linux than rewriting to XP or the next Windows OS.
Baseline aregument: If its for one, It can be for all.
So I buy a Dell. I reformat the drive and install Linux. yes LINUX. I crack the Win-whatever CD in half, never use it, and I'm happy with a Dell running Linux. Or Be. Or any other non-Microsoft OS. Yes, ANY non Microsoft OS!!!
I'd have a good box. I know Linux. I admin it well. If the hardware breaks, I call Dell. So friggin' what. When I take posession, its MY box. Not Dell's.
If I want a Dell, MS will not refund Win-whatever and I'm cool with that, so what.
It was simply a matter of time in my prediction. Why would AOL -- an Internet Service Provider -- even give a darn about Cable. Answer: its the broadband. Couple that with the future of Digital Cable, AOL/TW could see the final scenario -- your PC will be replaced by a browser on your TV.
Here's how it works. AOL saw that Cable was going to be the medium of the (near) future. TV as well as digital content can be transmitted via a rather old, but still viable media. They bought (on of) the largest cable operators in America, a major browser, and sat on the hopes that Linux would come of age. When it did (and it has) they would be able to embed it into the Digital Cable box.
Since most Internet users only use Email and Web services, AOL saw that the consumer was essentially buying much more technology than they needed. Couple that with having an Internet service that is solely non-user intervention required. AOL/TW would administer, update, enhance the cable box when necessary without the end user ever knowing or having to care. Truly a service in every way.
Think of it. If you were a simple Internet user pay to have your total Internet experience handled for you? If I were not inclined to mess with upgrades, dependencies, tech support, system crashes, I would want this. I'm not though;-)
Whats this going to do for Red Hat??? I have no idea. I imagine, given AOLs rep, they will keep it going "business-as-usual" and it will do just fine. I have no inclination AOL will scrap RH or Linux NOR try to hinder any of its present availability (licensing, downloadability, development). I really don't know. Wheres the crystal ball...
Good and bad. Its a big step. God be with them.....
While you may have destroyed three buildings and wounded one, while you have taken thousands of innocent lives, while you may have caused this cowardly act of terror, while you have no other purpose than to soil this earth with your steps and fill the air with your stench, I'm extremely happy to inform you that...
YOU MISSED.
In the Harbor, there still stands a great lady. Green coated and quite proud. She is Liberty and that, you infestation, is one thing you missed. And missed you did.
She will be there when you get caught. She will be at your Judgement and She will be there upon your punishment.
Remember what you missed. You will see Her again. Bet on it.
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That seems only good thru Sept 2003. NMap them now.
What, just what will it take (seriously now) to get Darl to come clean with his unfounded accusations and allegations of IP infringement? What will it take on our part to completely unravel this charletan (sic) for what he really is? I have read comments here that state this kind of lobbying is too much of a non-issue or too little of a common mans issue to swing legistlatives opinions -- that is while job #1 (getting re-elected of course) is in full swing.
I seriously doubt this kind of rant from the "tech nerd sector" is going to make a tinkers damn bit of difference to Senator So-and-so this year.
Therefore back to the original question: What is it going to take to shut this son'ov'a bitch up?
I had a question regarding "derivative works" and googled "Xenix". Here's what I found:
Xenix
(Redirected from XENIX)
Xenix was Microsoft's version of UNIX for microprocessors. Microsoft called it Xenix because it could not license the "UNIX" name.
Microsoft purchased a license for UNIX 7th Edition from AT&T in 1979, and announced on August 25, 1980 that it would make it available for the 16-bit microcomputer market. Xenix was not sold directly to end users; Microsoft licensed it to computer manufacturers who then ported it to their systems. The first ports of Xenix were to the Zilog Z8001 16-bit processor.
Altos shipped a version for their computers early in 1982, Tandy Corporation shipped one for their 68000-based systems in January 1983, and Santa Cruz Operation (SCO) released their port to the Intel 8086 processor in September 1983.
Xenix varied from its 7th Edition origins by incoporating elements from BSD, and soon possessed the most widely installed base of any Unix flavor due to the popularity of the inexpensive x86 processor, even though the port created for Tandy computers proved to be more robust.
When Microsoft entered into an agreement with IBM to develop OS/2, it lost interest in promoting Xenix. Microsoft transferred ownership of Xenix to SCO in an agreement that left Microsoft owning 25% of SCO. However, Microsoft continued to use Xenix internally, submitting a patch to support functionality in UNIX to AT&T in 1987, which trickled down to the code base of both Xenix and SCO UNIX. Microsoft is said to have used Xenix on VAX minicomputers extensively within their company as late as 1992.
SCO released a version of Xenix for the Intel 286 processor in 1985, and following their port of Xenix to the 386 processor, a 32-bit chip, renamed it SCO UNIX.
What if......
Fact: Linux comprised mainly of stolen source code from SCO.
Fact: Linux users are known to be software, music, and movie pirates.
Fact: DeCSS, a highly illegal piece of software under the DMCA, runs on Linux to facilitate criminal activity.
Fact: 9/11 would not have happened without Linux since Linux is the OS of choice for terrorists worldwide.
Prove those FACT:'s then (SCO).
Who says it was an Open Source developer? Could'a been Bin Laden for all we know... ...ask me about my lobotomy
$3B (Thats "3 BILLION DOLLARS", SCO. Not Negotiable.)
Have a nice day.
Has anyone though this whole SCO vs. the World may actually me a good thing?
Think about it. SCO, while they seem completely harless (litigationwise), and for the most part are, their contribution to Free Software, Open Source, GNU, GPL, and any other open software community is going to be immeasurable.
Hear me out here: SCO, should this all go to "trial", will lose. Period. Thus the arguments SCO has proposed so far will be on legal record and may set precedence for further legal decisions. In this case "what doesn't kill ya, will make ya stronger" might apply!
Of course, I'm sure I am not the only one who's thought of this, and this might just be restating the completely obvious, but we all rant at SCO. I say "Go SCO... Give us all you have. You will lose and this makes the case for GPL (and alikes) stronger." Freedom for all.
God, I can't wait for this to end on a good note.
# man woman
No manual entry for woman
Curious....
... but liars can figure.
As stated countless times, SCO (management) has apparently lost its collective mind. As is the case with a complete paranoid schizophrenic (sic), the posturing is irrelevant.
The best thing the Open Source community can do is to drop any relations with SCO, walk away, and continue to code good works.
At this point, we've gone from defending O/S to humiliating SCO... not that SCO hasn't done a good job of that themselves. Still, the point is moot. SCO has no case. As in the words of my lovely wife "You're arguing with a seven year old."
Copy that.
Quoth SCO:
"Bwaaaaa haaaaaa haaaaaaaaa, waaaa haaaa haaaa haaa haaa (sniff sniff, cry cry). Ooooooooooooowaaaaa hahahaha haaaa, waaaaa haaaaaaaaaa (tremendous sound of blowing nose, sniff, sniff, sob)."
Ok, its not a "direct" quote, but its close enough.
God help 'ya SCO. Maybe one day, your guys will grow up, who knows...
NOT!
I'll pay you when you show your goddamn code. Hows that deal SCO.
Right. Where do I send the check...
... they pry the keyboard from my cold dead fingers.
SCO, MS, and anyone else who advocates such material breach of business ethics, whether self-inflicted or intent on others, should be hauled out, stipped naked, and caned by a very disgruntled Thai corrections officer in the middle of downtown Redmond.
...when Apple decided to go UNIX, I predicted that the popularity of UNIX will skyrocket, not only in users, but developers.
I used to work in Graphics (prepress) and we had Photoshop and Illustrator on IRIX (SGI's UNIX implementation). It ran like a champ. I _KNOW_ there is a port for these programs and I suspected many more. Porting will be less of a problem from MacOS X to/from Linux than rewriting to XP or the next Windows OS.
Baseline aregument: If its for one, It can be for all.
I'd love to see someone do a study on how much it would cost for a 100 node cluster -- including time and training costs, The *real TCO.
About time someone had an aticle on Linux outpacing MacOS X.
...as many times as it takes to sell advertisement.
God I hate the press.
you did read the part where I said I was cool with that, yes?
So I buy a Dell. I reformat the drive and install Linux. yes LINUX. I crack the Win-whatever CD in half, never use it, and I'm happy with a Dell running Linux. Or Be. Or any other non-Microsoft OS. Yes, ANY non Microsoft OS!!!
I'd have a good box. I know Linux. I admin it well. If the hardware breaks, I call Dell. So friggin' what. When I take posession, its MY box. Not Dell's.
If I want a Dell, MS will not refund Win-whatever and I'm cool with that, so what.
Dude, I'm running Linux on a Dell. Kiss my ass.
It was simply a matter of time in my prediction. Why would AOL -- an Internet Service Provider -- even give a darn about Cable. Answer: its the broadband. Couple that with the future of Digital Cable, AOL/TW could see the final scenario -- your PC will be replaced by a browser on your TV.
;-)
Here's how it works. AOL saw that Cable was going to be the medium of the (near) future. TV as well as digital content can be transmitted via a rather old, but still viable media. They bought (on of) the largest cable operators in America, a major browser, and sat on the hopes that Linux would come of age. When it did (and it has) they would be able to embed it into the Digital Cable box.
Since most Internet users only use Email and Web services, AOL saw that the consumer was essentially buying much more technology than they needed. Couple that with having an Internet service that is solely non-user intervention required. AOL/TW would administer, update, enhance the cable box when necessary without the end user ever knowing or having to care. Truly a service in every way.
Think of it. If you were a simple Internet user pay to have your total Internet experience handled for you? If I were not inclined to mess with upgrades, dependencies, tech support, system crashes, I would want this. I'm not though
Whats this going to do for Red Hat??? I have no idea. I imagine, given AOLs rep, they will keep it going "business-as-usual" and it will do just fine. I have no inclination AOL will scrap RH or Linux NOR try to hinder any of its present availability (licensing, downloadability, development). I really don't know. Wheres the crystal ball...
Good and bad. Its a big step. God be with them.....
what the fuck do the french have to do with this?!?
And you're right. I'm American. And I Am arrogant. Got it?
While you may have destroyed three buildings and wounded one, while you have taken thousands of innocent lives, while you may have caused this cowardly act of terror, while you have no other purpose than to soil this earth with your steps and fill the air with your stench, I'm extremely happy to inform you that...
YOU MISSED.
In the Harbor, there still stands a great lady. Green coated and quite proud. She is Liberty and that, you infestation, is one thing you missed. And missed you did.
She will be there when you get caught. She will be at your Judgement and She will be there upon your punishment.
Remember what you missed. You will see Her again. Bet on it.