If Jim calls Bob's dog out of control because it pissed on his shoes, it is not logical for Bob to respond by saying that his dog clearly is not out of control because it has not yet mauled Jim to death.
It is if the only behavior that Bob cannot control is the dog mauling people.
Avoid telling people their logic is bad when yours is worse, like it was in your last post.
And no, I wasn't setting anything up, you're just an imbecile who can't keep his shit together.
You're a transparent little troll...
Lol. Keep digging, it's funny to watch you destroy your own arguments.
Strangely though, I've done what I set out to do quite EFFECTIVELY in this conversation using exactly the same tone and vocabulary that I started with.
Kind of makes you wrong, and a hypocrite all at the same time huh?
You made a statement that was demonstrably false, this one
putting them somewhere they can't get any education
That is a lie, by definition. It does not surprise me that you are trying to pretend otherwise, liars such as yourself do that.
But just so you're proven irrfutably wrong
lie Function:
noun Etymology:
Middle English lige, lie, from Old English lyge; akin to Old High German lug, Old English logan to lie Date:
before 12th century
1 a: an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker to be untrue with intent to deceive b: an untrue or inaccurate statement that may or may not be believed true by the speaker
You're a liar. Irrefutably. TWICE.
It was a complete tangent and might as well be a different post.
A complete tangent that demonstrates your willingness to lie to make your point, thus destroying your credibility, and therefore being relevant to ALL of your points.
You will never amount to anything more than a filthy cunt in life.
At least I won't lie about it like you do, then claim I didn't lie about it like you did, then get proven irrefutably wrong like you did.
But the distinction I was making was when detailing the difference between ignorant people in the China and in the United States, which was the scope I had defined just before detailed the difference.
This is exactly what I mean, perhaps you could try that again in something resembling coherent English.
It's telling that when confronted on the stupidity of your ideas, you back off and pretend you didn't claim what is demonstrated in black and white on my screen.
Sadly, I just wrote what I meant and nothing more. so, up your meds, read up, or up yours, as you like.
It's also telling that after I shut you the fuck up, crushed your moronic points, and made you back off your idiotic assertions, you do exactly what you chastised others for originally and make yourself a hypocrite in the process.
Please show me where I said it was? You're wrong by the way, as an isolated individual IS A SOCIETY, but let's address your straw man.
I said "There is no FUNCTIONAL difference". Do you see now why you're wrong, or do you need to look up "functional"?
The problem lies not with my reading comprehension
Then why has your reading comprehension failed you in two consecutive posts?
SO now that you've been proven to be incapable of reading with any comprehension (twice) can I expect your posts to improve, or will you still be a moron?
Compare the US rescue effort immediately post Katrina with the Chinese one
No, because that has NOTHING to do with my point, which you clearly didn't bother trying to understand. Your entire post is proof you don't know hat you're replying to, and illustrates your ignorance and stupidity.
Washington i.e. somewhere non-black and poor
Lol, clearly you prove you're a dumbass here, and that you've never been to "Washington".
As far as I'm concerned racism is as bad as human rights abuse.
It's a good thing no one gives a fuck what you think then.
Fuck you, you should be embarrassed.
Why because I typed out a moronic rant regarding a post I am too much of an idiot to comprehend?
Oh no, wait, that was you.
Still not embarrassed either.
Why are you respoding to something you didn't read
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I wouldn't be so smug.
I don't care.
I would not be so sure that the USA itself...
That has fuck all to do with my point. Large parts of China are reminiscent of third world countries not because of neglect or failure of policy, but because of SPECIFIC ACTIONS DESIGNED TO MAKE THEM THAT WAY.
Your point is completely irrelevant.
When a man falls through the ice on a lake and drowns, you just have to feel bad for the wife and children he or she left behind
Not to be a dick, but no I don't, and I'm not going to pretend I do like you and others have been doing. YOU might, but we've already established I'm not you.
Mother Nature is some bitch
Which, again HAS FUCK ALL TO DO WITH MY POINT. Chinese government policy MADE THIS TRAGEDY WORSE. That nature is unpredictable has nothing to do with this.
Could you at least TRY to read what you're responding to this time, since you seem to have completely avoided doing so last time.
I'm not saying, "you should all react the way I do."
No, you're saying that the comments are "ignorant, insensitive, and hurtful" among other things, which is no better, and possibly worse. You're also advocating that said people stop sharing such sentiments, so you're advocating censorship as well.
So, you know, it kind of irks to see others 'cope' in this manner.,/blockquote>
Guess what jack, no one cares. What you feel is YOUR responsibility. YOU are the source of your feelings, not the actions of someone else.
Nope, I'm just seeing a lot of jokers sitting in the comfy confines of their rooms making light of a situation
REALLY? How many have you actually witnessed in such situations? Or are you AGAIN making baseless assumptions?
You don't get to tell others how to cope. PERIOD. There IS NO QUALIFIER for that, and every single time you try to avoid admitting that, you display your arrogance.
The fact that when challenged, you resort to childish sarcasm rather than intelligent discussion says volumes about the validity of your thoughts on the subject.
If you think that's the only difference...
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Then your opinion isn't worth listening to.
The only difference is that in China there are more people who are willing to see their government as something distinct from themselves;
Really? That's the ONLY difference?
Why did you people mod this incoherent tripe insightful?
That's twice you've deflected with sarcasm
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...ahhh, yes, for those posters, death is just impending!
Seeing as everyone dies, yes, it is.
So, would you care to actually respond to my point, or should I take your second nonsensical response as an admission that you know you were being an arrogant asshole?
Ahh, well, forgive me for being so inconsiderate of the need for people who have no personal connection to the tragedy to cope in such a manner. It's clearly affecting them *so* strongly, and I must be wrong to have assumed otherwise.
Nicely deflected. Sarcasm aside, who the fuck are you to
a) tell people how to react to a tragedy? What makes you the arbiter of appropriate reaction?
b) make assumptions about the motivations of the people you're judging?
Your reaction isn't appropriate for everyone, yet you seem to think it is. Assuming that you know the motivation of the people you're judging is just outright arrogance.
You deal with this how you like. Meanwhile, others get to do the same. At least they should, but you don't seem to want to let them.
What I see is needless suffering that is the direct result of a government that deliberately hamstrung development, relegating many parts of the country to little better than third world level conditions.
What I see is a disaster, made worse by conditions that said government was directly responsible for.
You ought to be embarrassed to think that way.
Who the fuck are you, Orwell? What makes you think you have the right to anyone what to think about anything, especially given your obliviousness to the conditions that were a direct contributor to the death toll?
No, I'm not embarrassed that I'm not wallowing in needless sentimentality. People die, it's tragic. That it's made worse by a government whose job it is to prevent such tragedies deserves discussion.
People will continue to die in natural disasters. That is unavoidable. People will continue to die under the Chinese regime. That is TOTALLY avoidable.
I'm not embarrassed about focusing on things that can actually be influenced by my actions. I;m not the least bit embarrassed about putting my emotion into action that is useful.
But, I think it's pretty clear that the funny guys here aren't doing it to cope, yes?
Why does what you think matter? It's not a coping mechanism for YOU, it's for them. Additionally, you are making an assumption with no evidence. You know what they say about assumptions, they make you look like a fucking idiot.
I think the problem arose when you said it was harm to society
I don't. I think the problem arose when someone with shitty reading comprehension responded to a post that was clear as day, but still beyond their meager cognitive abilities.
The mere fact that they are screwing up another person is justification in and of itself. The fact that you resorted to society as your justfication seemed to indicate that you think society is of primary importance, not the other person they are screwing up.
THEY ARE THE SAME. THE OTHER PERSON = SOCIETY, THERE IS NO FUNCTIONAL DIFFERENCE, AND IT IS SOCIETY THAT PUNISHES THEM.
What it "seemed" like to you is a fucntion of your lack of reading skill, not the clarity of my post.
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No, they CLAIM that's how many people they have in jail, and when it's convenient, people like you believe them.
Yet strangely, when they CLAIM they don't engage in human rights abuses, your response is...what?
It better be "I believe that too" or your point just went right out the window.
It is if the only behavior that Bob cannot control is the dog mauling people.
Avoid telling people their logic is bad when yours is worse, like it was in your last post.
What's flamebait about asking people who believe in god and his actions to talk to their god about addressing their grievance?
Are you afraid to answer the question you pathetic cunt?
FUCK YOU AND YOUR FLAMEBAIT MOD YOU COCKSUCKING MORMON PIECE OF SHIT.
Don't like it? Take it up with these guys.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/
I'm sure they'll laugh at you just like I am right now.
Awesome! You lied AGAIN!
See, that definition makes my claim TRUE, which where I am at, is an absolute defense for Libel.
How does it feel to be proven a liar (again)?
I see, now it's MY fault you're a hypocrite.
And no, I wasn't setting anything up, you're just an imbecile who can't keep his shit together.
Lol. Keep digging, it's funny to watch you destroy your own arguments.
Strangely though, I've done what I set out to do quite EFFECTIVELY in this conversation using exactly the same tone and vocabulary that I started with.
Kind of makes you wrong, and a hypocrite all at the same time huh?
You made a statement that was demonstrably false, this one
That is a lie, by definition. It does not surprise me that you are trying to pretend otherwise, liars such as yourself do that.
But just so you're proven irrfutably wrong
You're a liar. Irrefutably. TWICE.
A complete tangent that demonstrates your willingness to lie to make your point, thus destroying your credibility, and therefore being relevant to ALL of your points.
At least I won't lie about it like you do, then claim I didn't lie about it like you did, then get proven irrefutably wrong like you did.
This is exactly what I mean, perhaps you could try that again in something resembling coherent English.
Funny, I would think that a post that says "the only difference is" about TWO DIFFERENT THINGS would at least be somewhat incoherent.
And I'd be right, while you are not.
In the future, don't confuse "I agree" with "coherent". You won't look so stupid next time.
Read that until you get it.
WOW! You FINALLY got it!
I don't want to discuss, you're full of shit and I want to tell you so. What you think on the subject doesn't mean a damned thing to me.
It's also telling that after I shut you the fuck up, crushed your moronic points, and made you back off your idiotic assertions, you do exactly what you chastised others for originally and make yourself a hypocrite in the process.
Please show me where I said it was? You're wrong by the way, as an isolated individual IS A SOCIETY, but let's address your straw man.
I said "There is no FUNCTIONAL difference". Do you see now why you're wrong, or do you need to look up "functional"?
Then why has your reading comprehension failed you in two consecutive posts?
SO now that you've been proven to be incapable of reading with any comprehension (twice) can I expect your posts to improve, or will you still be a moron?
No, because that has NOTHING to do with my point, which you clearly didn't bother trying to understand. Your entire post is proof you don't know hat you're replying to, and illustrates your ignorance and stupidity.
Lol, clearly you prove you're a dumbass here, and that you've never been to "Washington".
It's a good thing no one gives a fuck what you think then.
Why because I typed out a moronic rant regarding a post I am too much of an idiot to comprehend?
Oh no, wait, that was you.
Still not embarrassed either.
I don't care.
That has fuck all to do with my point. Large parts of China are reminiscent of third world countries not because of neglect or failure of policy, but because of SPECIFIC ACTIONS DESIGNED TO MAKE THEM THAT WAY.
Your point is completely irrelevant.
Not to be a dick, but no I don't, and I'm not going to pretend I do like you and others have been doing. YOU might, but we've already established I'm not you.
Which, again HAS FUCK ALL TO DO WITH MY POINT. Chinese government policy MADE THIS TRAGEDY WORSE. That nature is unpredictable has nothing to do with this.
Could you at least TRY to read what you're responding to this time, since you seem to have completely avoided doing so last time.
What's flamebait about asking people who beleive in god and his actions to talk to their god about addressing their grievance?
Fuck you and your flamebait mod you cocksucker
Doesn't look like it, but he did find the meaning of "irregardless", which as it turns out, is a real word.
Yeah, I can't believe after he claimed a word wasn't a real word, that he continued o argue the point after finding out he was wrong.
Oh wait, that was you.
Why not just pray to god about it? Isn't that why you people have a god?
Um, yes it is. In that case the computer is not free.
Um, yes it is, in that case the internet service is not free.
Um, yes it is, in that case the food is not free.
I can see why you call yourself an idiot though.
AHHAAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAH...
You might want to see someone about those hallucinations you're having. Thanks for the laugh though.
No, you're saying that the comments are "ignorant, insensitive, and hurtful" among other things, which is no better, and possibly worse. You're also advocating that said people stop sharing such sentiments, so you're advocating censorship as well.
Really? That's the ONLY difference?
Why did you people mod this incoherent tripe insightful?
Seeing as everyone dies, yes, it is.
So, would you care to actually respond to my point, or should I take your second nonsensical response as an admission that you know you were being an arrogant asshole?
Nicely deflected. Sarcasm aside, who the fuck are you to
a) tell people how to react to a tragedy? What makes you the arbiter of appropriate reaction?
b) make assumptions about the motivations of the people you're judging?
Your reaction isn't appropriate for everyone, yet you seem to think it is. Assuming that you know the motivation of the people you're judging is just outright arrogance.
You deal with this how you like. Meanwhile, others get to do the same. At least they should, but you don't seem to want to let them.
What I see is a disaster, made worse by conditions that said government was directly responsible for.
Who the fuck are you, Orwell? What makes you think you have the right to anyone what to think about anything, especially given your obliviousness to the conditions that were a direct contributor to the death toll?
No, I'm not embarrassed that I'm not wallowing in needless sentimentality. People die, it's tragic. That it's made worse by a government whose job it is to prevent such tragedies deserves discussion.
People will continue to die in natural disasters. That is unavoidable. People will continue to die under the Chinese regime. That is TOTALLY avoidable.
I'm not embarrassed about focusing on things that can actually be influenced by my actions. I;m not the least bit embarrassed about putting my emotion into action that is useful.
I don't. I think the problem arose when someone with shitty reading comprehension responded to a post that was clear as day, but still beyond their meager cognitive abilities.
THEY ARE THE SAME. THE OTHER PERSON = SOCIETY, THERE IS NO FUNCTIONAL DIFFERENCE, AND IT IS SOCIETY THAT PUNISHES THEM.
What it "seemed" like to you is a fucntion of your lack of reading skill, not the clarity of my post.