The problem is not that it doesn't make things better. The problem is where, how, and when it will be abused. (It's 100% certain that there will be no if, because we all know that the government already gathers as many reins of power to itself as it can grasp.)
This is the concept that most people don't recognize. Most people say\think that its all good to protect the children or catch the terrorists. But what happens if you are in that database and some government entity unlawfully decides that your class of people, whatever it may be, needs to be disenfranchised, persecuted, or even killed off?
People will almost always say that those things can never happen here in the US. It happens in other places in the world but never here. The reason it doesn't happen here, for the most part, is because we have been, and must be, ever vigilant for these kinds of abuses and crush them when they start down that proverbial slippery slope.
Don't open the door to the possibility of it happening and it never will. By allowing this type of scenario to occur we are definitely opening the door.
Plain and simple. If this were at all true then each of these 20 incidences would have been widely touted in the media. They never would have had to give the source of their intelligence or at worst they could have \ would have said that inside information that was actionable was provided to their security forces.
Wish i had points to mod you up. Pretty much dead on on every item. No encryption that is available at this point is unbreakable for the kind of resources the NSA can leverage. Every other item people are listing here use various encryption means and methods that frequently revolve around AES256... which can be broken with brute force.
Tell that to Adobe when your application resides in their cloud and you only have credentials to log into it, nothing to download, and its tied to your IP address. Try selling that.
My takeaway was that they were using non-government email addresses. Not that they were using secret government addresses.
There is no logical reason for using a non-government address. There is also no good reason for using a secret address when it's very easy to setup both spam filtering devices and transport rules \ mail flow settings on the email server that allow \ disallow certain domains.
The ONLY reason for this is attempting to do an end-run around their email regulations and laws so that they won't get busted for whatever they are doing.
...and it takes one law or event like 9/11 to change that. This is the problem with almost all government overreach. It starts out as a benign "think of the children" scenario and turns into something that is monstrous because some law perverts what was originally intended.
What you're missing is that a government body has scanned biometric information from people and that information will never ever be removed from the system. This is how they, in a nutshell, put a barcode on every human.
sub-machine guns are basically handguns that are fully automatic capable and (usually) have additional furniture to accommodate fully automatic operation. All of the various SMGs out there fire handgun ammunition. For example, the Uzi that everyone's seen on tv and movies fires 9mm rounds. Typical handgun ammunition doesn't go much more than 1200 fps. There are some handgun ammo's out there that buck this general rule of thumb, but this still doesn't compare to what rifle ammunition frequently does - and that's reach 2500+ fps.
A true select-fire machine gun uses rifle ammunition.
I stated this above but I'll repeat some of it here...
Data transmitted over the internet is always encapsulated. If you receive data that is not addressed to you you are supposed to discard it (this is how network devices work). If the government reads data that is not addressed to it then it is in violation of the 4th amendment.
The same could be said of anything stored by any service provider.
Every piece of data, no matter how small it is, is kept in some sort of container whether in transit or in storage. Those containers are no different than an envelope travelling through the US Postal Service and are thus protected. Encryption shouldn't really matter at that point where the government is concerned. If they want to look at it then they should have to show cause before a judge and that judge should have to sign off on a narrowly defined warrant that allows them to read the data.
Data transmitted over the internet is always encapsulated. If you receive data that is not addressed to you you are supposed to discard it. If the government reads data that is not addressed to it then it is in violation of the 4th amendment.
The same could be said of anything stored by any service provider.
Every piece of data, no matter how small it is, is kept in some sort of container whether in transit or in storage. Those containers are no different than an envelope travelling through the US Postal Service and are thus protected. Encryption shouldn't really matter at that point where the government is concerned. If they want to look at it then they should have to show cause before a judge and that judge should have to sign off on a narrowly defined warrant that allows them to read the data.
This needs to be explicitly codified into law, since our nanny state government seems to think otherwise.
It only requires creativity to come up with a reason you have standing. You will clearly have to show that you have such standing and what its actual negative impact is, but its not hard with the shenanigans that the overlords are pulling lately to show that.
Go back to Civics class. DOJ is executive branch. Its headed by the Attorney General of the United States. This position is appointed by the President.
Thus, Obama is Holder's boss and can [to my knowledge] fire him at will.
So what happens to the entire company when your un-vetted solution to whatever business need you have brings down the main database server because of security holes? Or enables your email server to be hijacked via malware. End users such as you never consider that there is a complexity in the picture that you have no idea about because its not your job to worry about it. It's IT's job to worry about it.
I grant that you may have issues with your IT department at the company you work for. Its not unheard of for IT people to be too dismissive of end-user wants and needs. But, be that as it may, ultimately there is a reason for being told no. Sometimes its some whacked geek on a power trip, but sometimes you work with professionals who know what they are about and tell you no for legitimate reasons.
Of course as an end user those things are annoying, so there are plenty of jailbreak patches that remove the pin lock requirement (or rather, cache your pin so that it's only required after a reboot).
This is a good example of why IT departments take the attitude of "not on my network, ever." Information security is not something to be blown off because you are annoyed with the security mechanisms. It may be tedious but the alternative is losing data that could result in lawsuits and fines that could bankrupt the business. Would you rather have a job and be a little annoyed by pushing 4 buttons on your phone to use it, or be unemployed?
Your assertion that the GOP is the cause of our issues is a fallacy. In fact, its blatantly disingenuous.
Our issues have nothing to do with the GOP specifically. They have to do with ALL of the politicians being in someone's pocket, or having a private agenda motivating their "service." The GOP functions by screwing the little guy so that business can prosper and make the business owners richer. The Dems function by screwing everyone by passing programs that are mathematically impossible to support. Both sides continuously pass the buck on fixing the issues. Both sides play partisan politics. Both sides are screwing the populace. Both sides are destroying our childrens' future. And "We The People" go right along with the whole mess by focusing the blame on one side or the other based on our own biases, playing the same partisan politics, when its clearly BOTH sides that are at fault.
In the end, this partisan stance that you and most other people take is the problem. It continuously stratifies the nation when we should be standing together to rid ourselves of the corrupt. Instead of playing one side or another, try playing the side that says whether this is right or wrong for the country as a whole, practice some critical thinking, practice some logic and determine that the programs the government has in place can't possibly, in any realistic mathematical sense, continue without intervention and some very hard decisions about our future.
Copyright infringement is not a criminal offense UNLESS it's done on a commercial scale. The government should not be involved in policing this illegal activity except when it is investigating commercial copyright infringement via the FBI. The definition of commercial copyright infringement is infringing for the purposes of personal gain, typically in a monetary fashion.
Therefore, the government should not be involved in individual copyright infringement at any level outside the judiciary, where civil matters are resolved.
also, its long been proven that stricter copyright, patent, and even trademark law leads to less innovation and fewer advances in technology and science.
Its pretty clear that the public interest is that technologies and sciences advance at a fairly rapid rate since they are the core of an expanding economy, along with sound banking, solid technical education, and good trade practices. The US fails on all fronts.
The state can't even balance its checkbook. The state can't even create a budget. The state can't even invest the capital it does have in firms that stay solvent for more than a year.
How in the world will it control capital without more risk than we face now?
As individuals you and I have a lot to lose if we mismanage our funds but the government answers for their folly how? The money that the state controls is used by people who have nothing to lose if its mismanaged. Most of them believe they can just print more without having economic repercussions. Economics 101 teaches us otherwise.
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The problem is not that it doesn't make things better. The problem is where, how, and when it will be abused. (It's 100% certain that there will be no if, because we all know that the government already gathers as many reins of power to itself as it can grasp.)
This is the concept that most people don't recognize. Most people say\think that its all good to protect the children or catch the terrorists. But what happens if you are in that database and some government entity unlawfully decides that your class of people, whatever it may be, needs to be disenfranchised, persecuted, or even killed off?
People will almost always say that those things can never happen here in the US. It happens in other places in the world but never here. The reason it doesn't happen here, for the most part, is because we have been, and must be, ever vigilant for these kinds of abuses and crush them when they start down that proverbial slippery slope.
Don't open the door to the possibility of it happening and it never will. By allowing this type of scenario to occur we are definitely opening the door.
Plain and simple. If this were at all true then each of these 20 incidences would have been widely touted in the media. They never would have had to give the source of their intelligence or at worst they could have \ would have said that inside information that was actionable was provided to their security forces.
Wish i had points to mod you up. Pretty much dead on on every item. No encryption that is available at this point is unbreakable for the kind of resources the NSA can leverage. Every other item people are listing here use various encryption means and methods that frequently revolve around AES256... which can be broken with brute force.
Tell that to Adobe when your application resides in their cloud and you only have credentials to log into it, nothing to download, and its tied to your IP address. Try selling that.
Wasn't there something about indefinite detention in some bill or other they recently passed? I forget. Thought i heard something about that.
My takeaway was that they were using non-government email addresses. Not that they were using secret government addresses.
There is no logical reason for using a non-government address. There is also no good reason for using a secret address when it's very easy to setup both spam filtering devices and transport rules \ mail flow settings on the email server that allow \ disallow certain domains. The ONLY reason for this is attempting to do an end-run around their email regulations and laws so that they won't get busted for whatever they are doing.
...and it takes one law or event like 9/11 to change that. This is the problem with almost all government overreach. It starts out as a benign "think of the children" scenario and turns into something that is monstrous because some law perverts what was originally intended.
What you're missing is that a government body has scanned biometric information from people and that information will never ever be removed from the system. This is how they, in a nutshell, put a barcode on every human.
sub-machine guns are basically handguns that are fully automatic capable and (usually) have additional furniture to accommodate fully automatic operation. All of the various SMGs out there fire handgun ammunition. For example, the Uzi that everyone's seen on tv and movies fires 9mm rounds. Typical handgun ammunition doesn't go much more than 1200 fps. There are some handgun ammo's out there that buck this general rule of thumb, but this still doesn't compare to what rifle ammunition frequently does - and that's reach 2500+ fps. A true select-fire machine gun uses rifle ammunition.
I stated this above but I'll repeat some of it here...
Data transmitted over the internet is always encapsulated. If you receive data that is not addressed to you you are supposed to discard it (this is how network devices work). If the government reads data that is not addressed to it then it is in violation of the 4th amendment.
The same could be said of anything stored by any service provider.
Every piece of data, no matter how small it is, is kept in some sort of container whether in transit or in storage. Those containers are no different than an envelope travelling through the US Postal Service and are thus protected. Encryption shouldn't really matter at that point where the government is concerned. If they want to look at it then they should have to show cause before a judge and that judge should have to sign off on a narrowly defined warrant that allows them to read the data.
Data transmitted over the internet is always encapsulated. If you receive data that is not addressed to you you are supposed to discard it. If the government reads data that is not addressed to it then it is in violation of the 4th amendment.
The same could be said of anything stored by any service provider.
Every piece of data, no matter how small it is, is kept in some sort of container whether in transit or in storage. Those containers are no different than an envelope travelling through the US Postal Service and are thus protected. Encryption shouldn't really matter at that point where the government is concerned. If they want to look at it then they should have to show cause before a judge and that judge should have to sign off on a narrowly defined warrant that allows them to read the data.
This needs to be explicitly codified into law, since our nanny state government seems to think otherwise.
Two years could be a much better sentence than allowing them access to your ... data.
I don't know what you mean by encrypted. I never encrypted anything on my computer\laptop\tablet\phone, your honor.
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In this case, mandate works best because this is something that the developer SHOULD be doing anyways. Not documenting your code is inexcusable.
It only requires creativity to come up with a reason you have standing. You will clearly have to show that you have such standing and what its actual negative impact is, but its not hard with the shenanigans that the overlords are pulling lately to show that.
Most states have their governor make such appointments.
Go back to Civics class. DOJ is executive branch. Its headed by the Attorney General of the United States. This position is appointed by the President.
Thus, Obama is Holder's boss and can [to my knowledge] fire him at will.
So what happens to the entire company when your un-vetted solution to whatever business need you have brings down the main database server because of security holes? Or enables your email server to be hijacked via malware. End users such as you never consider that there is a complexity in the picture that you have no idea about because its not your job to worry about it. It's IT's job to worry about it.
I grant that you may have issues with your IT department at the company you work for. Its not unheard of for IT people to be too dismissive of end-user wants and needs. But, be that as it may, ultimately there is a reason for being told no. Sometimes its some whacked geek on a power trip, but sometimes you work with professionals who know what they are about and tell you no for legitimate reasons.
Of course as an end user those things are annoying, so there are plenty of jailbreak patches that remove the pin lock requirement (or rather, cache your pin so that it's only required after a reboot).
This is a good example of why IT departments take the attitude of "not on my network, ever." Information security is not something to be blown off because you are annoyed with the security mechanisms. It may be tedious but the alternative is losing data that could result in lawsuits and fines that could bankrupt the business. Would you rather have a job and be a little annoyed by pushing 4 buttons on your phone to use it, or be unemployed?
Your assertion that the GOP is the cause of our issues is a fallacy. In fact, its blatantly disingenuous.
Our issues have nothing to do with the GOP specifically. They have to do with ALL of the politicians being in someone's pocket, or having a private agenda motivating their "service." The GOP functions by screwing the little guy so that business can prosper and make the business owners richer. The Dems function by screwing everyone by passing programs that are mathematically impossible to support. Both sides continuously pass the buck on fixing the issues. Both sides play partisan politics. Both sides are screwing the populace. Both sides are destroying our childrens' future. And "We The People" go right along with the whole mess by focusing the blame on one side or the other based on our own biases, playing the same partisan politics, when its clearly BOTH sides that are at fault.
In the end, this partisan stance that you and most other people take is the problem. It continuously stratifies the nation when we should be standing together to rid ourselves of the corrupt. Instead of playing one side or another, try playing the side that says whether this is right or wrong for the country as a whole, practice some critical thinking, practice some logic and determine that the programs the government has in place can't possibly, in any realistic mathematical sense, continue without intervention and some very hard decisions about our future.
Copyright infringement is not a criminal offense UNLESS it's done on a commercial scale. The government should not be involved in policing this illegal activity except when it is investigating commercial copyright infringement via the FBI. The definition of commercial copyright infringement is infringing for the purposes of personal gain, typically in a monetary fashion.
Therefore, the government should not be involved in individual copyright infringement at any level outside the judiciary, where civil matters are resolved.
also, its long been proven that stricter copyright, patent, and even trademark law leads to less innovation and fewer advances in technology and science.
Its pretty clear that the public interest is that technologies and sciences advance at a fairly rapid rate since they are the core of an expanding economy, along with sound banking, solid technical education, and good trade practices. The US fails on all fronts.
speaking of Fuck - Why the FUCK does it cost $1800 to start the paperwork for this. It should be a token filing fee of like $25. Citation needed?
Ask the Egyptians. I believe the fall of their government this year was presaged by the 99% standing in a square in their capital city for weeks.
The state can't even balance its checkbook. The state can't even create a budget. The state can't even invest the capital it does have in firms that stay solvent for more than a year.
How in the world will it control capital without more risk than we face now?
As individuals you and I have a lot to lose if we mismanage our funds but the government answers for their folly how? The money that the state controls is used by people who have nothing to lose if its mismanaged. Most of them believe they can just print more without having economic repercussions. Economics 101 teaches us otherwise.