I asked the same question when I originally saw this auction, and my coworkers spit out the answer almost simultaneously: "He just got married."
Maybe, maybe not, but it was just funny that all of the married guys didn't even have to think about it.
One of the bullets on the features page is "Strong CPU of High Performance". I think I had that card in MTG but it was banned shortly after it was released...
Did you bother to read the linked article? No?
Actually, yes, but thanks for answering for me.
This is from the ZDNet article:
The KDE Project, the group of hackers that created KDE, is now contemplating the creation of some kind of foundation entity -- which some are calling the KDE League -- to spearhead the direction and development of KDE.
So when asked about the truth in this, Kurt replied:
We have stated in the past that KDE will *never* have an elected governing board like GNOME Foundation. Absolutely nothing has happened or will happen to change that
You went on to quote Kurt as saying this, and then claimed that he was telling the truth! The horror! My reply was in response to your statement that "that response seems fairly disingenuous now." How? He said they would never have an elected governing board, and they don't. The only similarity between the KDE League and the GNOME Foundation is that they both contain and acronym and then a word that describes a group of people united for some purpose. That is all. The KDE League is nothing like the GNOME Foundation. One does PR, the other is a steering commitee, huge difference. It's like saying that somebody was dishonest because he said he wasn't going to watch TV and instead made a sandwich.
So, basically what you are saying is that somebody sent an email saying that they wouldn't have an elected governing board and now they DON'T have an elected governing board? Excellent investigative reporting there! Yeah, remember when Linus said they were going to have devfs included in 2.4? Guess what, they do! But man, that promise seems fairly disingenuous now, I don't think I can believe another word he says.
yet now we see the KDE League, a roughly identical operation
Not really, the KDE League exists mainly to spread the word and act as a marketing organization, which KDE never really had. The League is not a steering commitee and has no impact on the coding part of KDE (other than the fact that anyone is still welcome to contribute code). I'm not saying that one is better than the other (although I am a happy KDE user), but I think the comparisons are unjustified. GNOME put together a steering commitee and KDE got some extra marketing power.
You obviously don't know the meaning of an OO database. Oracle is a relational database, end of story. Just because their dopey little GUI says "Create relational structure" does not make it a relational database.
What? Can you explain this to those of us who aren't as smart as you think you are? First of all, Oracle is an object relational database. Second, you first claim that Oracle is relational, and then go on to tell us that the GUI(as if anyone uses the crummy GUI that comes with Oracle) does not necessarily make it a relational database. Hello? Don't you have recess or something now?
Now you're just being picky. The point is that it is fairly easy to wire your house up to have network ports in any given room. So you unplug the power cord and the network cable and go to another room, that's not a huge undertaking, and it is MUCH easier than trying to bring a normal PC from room to room.
Of course, the hackers would have to stay ahead of every little TiVo software update to avoid the same problems our Samba brethren get from every SP Microsoft releases
Not really, if you don't connect TiVo to a modem, it can't call up and auto-upgrade to the new software. Right now, TiVo works fine for me, so if I could connect to a 3rd party source of TV schedules I could just stay with the current version of the software. Of course, you might argue that they could decide to add new features, but if that happened we could all just wait until we got an OK from whoever was doing the schedule conversions...
Sony would be wise to release an addon that allows my Sony remote to run the unit.
My system includes the STR-DE845 (receiver), which comes with a two-way programmable remote. Maybe not the ideal situation, but I could buy one of the wireless remotes and then program my controller to send the same signals. Of course, I already have a Sony DVD player and none of the PS2 games look all that great, so I'll hold off until spring and maybe buy it when FFX comes out...
That's a cute haiku, but Perl vs. Python isn't really worth it. Both languages seek to occupy similar niches, but they do it with such different styles that neither is much of a threat to the other.
I'm unfortunate enough to spend most of my time with Visual Basic, three of my favorites:
"ADO Error: Errors occured"
"Method ~ of object ~ failed"
"Error: Catastrophic Error"
I believe the last is some kind of Windows error, which always makes me laugh. I mean, if an error is bad enough to be considered 'catastrophic', the computer better be so wrecked that it can't even tell me that. At the very least I want to turn on CNN and hear "362 people were killed in a catastrophic explosion in Uganda that is believed to be the result of a Visual Basic error originating in West Chester, Pennsylvania...". Well, OK, maybe I don't want to hear that, but at least it would justify the error message.
Re:How long before KDE/(QT 2.2) will be out?
on
Qt Going GPL
·
· Score: 1
I guess we might be up to the next Debian release before a "completely un-QPL-dependent" KDE is released - anybody know more about timescales?
Yeah, the end of this month. KDE2 is based on Qt 2.2, which is officially released under the GPL now. KDE2 was written with the beta versions, so it's ready to go.
PS: thanks for the patronizing "duhs", you're contributing to my already low opinion of Debian users.
I could just as easily say the same thing about you and non-Debian users for making such a ridiculous statment, as if this guy represents Debian users everywhere. Of course, then I'd be guilty of the same thing and this conversation could go on forever...
The reason I found it interesting, and then submitted it, is one of the points the author makes early in the article:
Does anyone else see the irony of a project headed by a guy who's in it for the money, backed by companies who are in it for the money, getting the official Glorious October Revolution seal of approval, while a volunteer effort driven by sheer love of the project does not? Yes, there are people from distributions who work on KDE, but they have not set up little companies for themselves to capitalize on it.
OK, so it is biased, I did say that in the submission, but it's an excellent point that I think a lot of/.ers needed to see. Time after time KDE takes a beating here because it's not 'as free', like Qt is some giant corporation that is just trying to fool us into using their Trojan horse product that will eventually take over all of our computers (OK, so that's going a bit far, but you get the point). Anyway, the quote above is a point I've tried to make several times but I think Dennis Powell did it very well.
Since Hemos's wedding and move to boston, and Nate's move to california to continue work on Everything 2, that leaves CowboyNeal and I all by ourselves.
Who cares? We all know that the rest of you guys are dragging Pater down anyway. I want a show where he goes from town to town and appraises the 1337-ness of people's computers. "Most people would give this computer a high 1337 l3v3l because of the Matrix theme and the fact that all 17 windows are terminal emulators, however you'll notice that this luser is running KDE. 1@m3r."
I suppose Rob could tag along if he had to, maybe afterward he could do his own live-action anime-style reenactment of the exchange, "Vi! Eyiiiiiiiiiii!"
btw, I am a HUGE comic book, fan and I loved the Sixth Sense.
You're a huge comic book? Whoa, which one?
And who is fan?
Anyway, why is the seller selling?
I asked the same question when I originally saw this auction, and my coworkers spit out the answer almost simultaneously: "He just got married." Maybe, maybe not, but it was just funny that all of the married guys didn't even have to think about it.
One of the bullets on the features page is "Strong CPU of High Performance". I think I had that card in MTG but it was banned shortly after it was released...
...as soon as it can transform into a Civic.
I guess they'll have to change the name of the show to Geeks In Space (Really).
Actually, yes, but thanks for answering for me. This is from the ZDNet article: So when asked about the truth in this, Kurt replied: You went on to quote Kurt as saying this, and then claimed that he was telling the truth! The horror! My reply was in response to your statement that "that response seems fairly disingenuous now." How? He said they would never have an elected governing board, and they don't. The only similarity between the KDE League and the GNOME Foundation is that they both contain and acronym and then a word that describes a group of people united for some purpose. That is all. The KDE League is nothing like the GNOME Foundation. One does PR, the other is a steering commitee, huge difference. It's like saying that somebody was dishonest because he said he wasn't going to watch TV and instead made a sandwich.
So, basically what you are saying is that somebody sent an email saying that they wouldn't have an elected governing board and now they DON'T have an elected governing board? Excellent investigative reporting there! Yeah, remember when Linus said they were going to have devfs included in 2.4? Guess what, they do! But man, that promise seems fairly disingenuous now, I don't think I can believe another word he says.
yet now we see the KDE League, a roughly identical operation
Not really, the KDE League exists mainly to spread the word and act as a marketing organization, which KDE never really had. The League is not a steering commitee and has no impact on the coding part of KDE (other than the fact that anyone is still welcome to contribute code). I'm not saying that one is better than the other (although I am a happy KDE user), but I think the comparisons are unjustified. GNOME put together a steering commitee and KDE got some extra marketing power.
You obviously don't know the meaning of an OO database. Oracle is a relational database, end of story. Just because their dopey little GUI says "Create relational structure" does not make it a relational database.
What? Can you explain this to those of us who aren't as smart as you think you are? First of all, Oracle is an object relational database. Second, you first claim that Oracle is relational, and then go on to tell us that the GUI(as if anyone uses the crummy GUI that comes with Oracle) does not necessarily make it a relational database. Hello? Don't you have recess or something now?
Now you're just being picky. The point is that it is fairly easy to wire your house up to have network ports in any given room. So you unplug the power cord and the network cable and go to another room, that's not a huge undertaking, and it is MUCH easier than trying to bring a normal PC from room to room.
Of course, the hackers would have to stay ahead of every little TiVo software update to avoid the same problems our Samba brethren get from every SP Microsoft releases
Not really, if you don't connect TiVo to a modem, it can't call up and auto-upgrade to the new software. Right now, TiVo works fine for me, so if I could connect to a 3rd party source of TV schedules I could just stay with the current version of the software. Of course, you might argue that they could decide to add new features, but if that happened we could all just wait until we got an OK from whoever was doing the schedule conversions...
Sony would be wise to release an addon that allows my Sony remote to run the unit.
My system includes the STR-DE845 (receiver), which comes with a two-way programmable remote. Maybe not the ideal situation, but I could buy one of the wireless remotes and then program my controller to send the same signals. Of course, I already have a Sony DVD player and none of the PS2 games look all that great, so I'll hold off until spring and maybe buy it when FFX comes out...
clotheslining yourself while rolling around the lab sucks
Yeah, but getting co-workers is kinda fun...
what happens to these broadband adapters if IPV6 is released and widely adopted by broadband providers?
Yeah, what if it rained beer?
Yeah, that 75 cent difference is astronomical. That guy was way off base...
Dude, a toothpick used in the right way could cause death, that doesn't mean we're going to outlaw them.
Wasn't that display just a 2 color display? We'd be more advanced than them!
Not really, that was a long time ago...
That's a cute haiku, but Perl vs. Python isn't really worth it. Both languages seek to occupy similar niches, but they do it with such different styles that neither is much of a threat to the other.
That's why they're idiots.
I'm unfortunate enough to spend most of my time with Visual Basic, three of my favorites:
"ADO Error: Errors occured"
"Method ~ of object ~ failed"
"Error: Catastrophic Error"
I believe the last is some kind of Windows error, which always makes me laugh. I mean, if an error is bad enough to be considered 'catastrophic', the computer better be so wrecked that it can't even tell me that. At the very least I want to turn on CNN and hear "362 people were killed in a catastrophic explosion in Uganda that is believed to be the result of a Visual Basic error originating in West Chester, Pennsylvania...". Well, OK, maybe I don't want to hear that, but at least it would justify the error message.
I guess we might be up to the next Debian release before a "completely un-QPL-dependent" KDE is released - anybody know more about timescales?
Yeah, the end of this month. KDE2 is based on Qt 2.2, which is officially released under the GPL now. KDE2 was written with the beta versions, so it's ready to go.
Why does *every* OSS need to be GPL? I thought OSS was about *freedom*, freedom of choice.
Stop confusing the Open Source movement with the Free Software movement, there is a difference.
PS: thanks for the patronizing "duhs", you're contributing to my already low opinion of Debian users.
I could just as easily say the same thing about you and non-Debian users for making such a ridiculous statment, as if this guy represents Debian users everywhere. Of course, then I'd be guilty of the same thing and this conversation could go on forever...
AFAIK there's no VB implementation for Red Hat.
Don't worry, it's on the way.
Since Hemos's wedding and move to boston, and Nate's move to california to continue work on Everything 2, that leaves CowboyNeal and I all by ourselves.
Who cares? We all know that the rest of you guys are dragging Pater down anyway. I want a show where he goes from town to town and appraises the 1337-ness of people's computers. "Most people would give this computer a high 1337 l3v3l because of the Matrix theme and the fact that all 17 windows are terminal emulators, however you'll notice that this luser is running KDE. 1@m3r."
I suppose Rob could tag along if he had to, maybe afterward he could do his own live-action anime-style reenactment of the exchange, "Vi! Eyiiiiiiiiiii!"