Oh it doesn't hurt you at all as long as you're a conformist lemming who "has nothing to fear because he's done nothing 'wrong'... "
Anyone who believes that deserves everything they get, but anyone who thinks that the existence of a centralised information system makes them more likely to be convicted unfairly or persecuted is equally deluded.
"slavery is the result of natural progression"
Bad example, Slavery was perfectly natural for thousands of years. Nowadays its viewed as evil, and rightly so, but for most of mankinds post hunter gatherer history it was a fact of life.
Technology has been moving this way for decades. There is even an argument that it's been moving this way for centuries.
And so what? How much is this really going to effect us? Really? As things stand we have all our information stored by banks, hospitals, employers, and social networks. This is a natural progression. Anyone who thinks governments wouldn't do this obviously didn't pay attention at school. They've been doing this since they came into existence.
This isn't going to result in a police state. Whats going on in Zimbabwe leads to a police state, not what we have here. All this is is a centralisation of information.
As for me, I don't care whether they want this info or not. And as for the cybercriminal thing, you believe your bank/hospital/employer is any safer? Seriously?
If this move would damn us, we've already been damned for some time.
No, I meant DOS. You programmed using BASIC but it ran on DOS, therefore the statement writing a product for DOS was correct. Doesn't mean it made sense to anything else though... It was the introduction of an OS that was common between computers was the big breakthrough. That was my point.
Don't you know the new required thought pattern? We aren't supposed to remember how nasty IBM were.
They are meant to be thought of as the poor unfortunate victims of an evil Microsoft, not the over confident and arrogant giant company who's failure to understand the market handed the world of computing to a small company whose owner lived on junk food and didn't wash much.
Being old I remember the time when Microsoft were this great company who liberated the computing world from the Unix wars. A company whose philosophy of getting their product out there cheaply and on everything meant I could finally afford a computer after several years of wanting, but not being able to buy, a Mac.
There was a time when Microsoft were the good guys, where people suddenly found that they could write a product for DOS and it would run on almost any computer. That meant it was possible to become a software house with a lot less effort and money than before.
I rather suspect people just don't realise what it was like before DOS.
Ok it didn't stay that way, or didn't unless you're a big Microsoft fan, but when I were young it was true.
Personally I wish they would get with the Open Source movement. I've been an open source developer for over five years, working with both Linux and Windows, and the lack of high level co-operation between the two camps is, in my opinion, is preventing a huge leap forward in computing.
The 1.10 patch made the game no longer possible to finish by yourself.
Did it? I don't recall that, The one problem I had with the Diablo games was that your character could get so absurdly powerful that you could beat anything.
I used to play as a sorcerer (memory fails, I don't remember the class name). By the time I stopped playing my character was so deadly that other players in the party had to run away before I used my offensive spells, because they'd get creamed too, no matter how well armoured they were.
It got a bit tedious in the end, all I'd ever see was dead things, because nothing got close enough to actually harm me.
I'm considered by most to be highly educated, and I still believe in the American Dream
I always thought the American dream was to live a live free from persecution and starvation. At least that was foremost in the mind of many early American immigrants.
When did it become to be wealthy and influential? After the gold rush I suspect. That version of the dream is all about power, and power attracts religion like shit attracts flies.
Fundies have already formed at least one accredited law school. You don't think a med school is possible at some point?
Possibly, but the graduates would be unable to work at almost any hospital, would be unsuitable for non clinical jobs such as drug research, and couldn't get jobs abroad.
Basically in order for it to work you would need creationist hospitals too. I don't discount the possibility, but to be a proper hospital there are federal regulations to meet.
Also, nothing can shake faith like a preventable death. Not to mention bring out the lawyers.
Science will not naturally prevail if the scientific community doesn't fight for it.
Oh it will, just not in the US. You think China is taking no notice of this move towards a religiously biased education system? They just started their space program...
Its happening everywhere, not just in the US. What we tend to find is that in the US these things make it into the public eye more easily.
It does worry me, this trend back to a less well informed age, but like most trends, it will probably change.
After all, The US was all but ready to disregard Darwinism and much of science in education just before Sputnik flew over and freaked everyone the fuck out.
We simply need to wait for the event that will prove the error in ignoring a progressive, scientific approach to education. I just hope it won't be too harsh.
My personal opinion is that it will come in the form of drastic economic and research decline as the older (and currently poorer) nations start to evolve to fill the gaps a US withdrawal from the field will create.
This sort of thing goes on all the time, The US went into the ascendancy with its scientific thinking when Germany and Europe went into decline in the late 18th early 19th century. Now that trend is reversing, with the more interesting work tending to occur in Europe.
Not that it's end game time for the US, it's still pretty strong academically. It's just that this strength is somewhat elitist, with the level of achievement required for success now being so high that people who would formally have moved to the US to advance their careers are choosing to stay at home or go elsewhere.
ok cooling then, my bad. But, and this is a big but, when that cooling of the surface is over an area of hundreds of square kilo meters, the local habitat would be altered.
Ok, for you and me it's no biggie, granted, but for the flora and fauna it could well be.
For one thing this might be deadly for many species of lizard. It's not as if they can cope with a constant temperature reduction, they've usually evolved to fit the local environment.
Still, this might be trivial, I admit, but two years to make sure its done correctly is not very long when you consider we've been pouring oil and cola pollution into the atmosphere for over a century.
Two years more of that will be bad, but if you think solar power will stop fossil fuel usage in the next fifty years, well, you'll be wrong, sorry.
well cooler then, it's still a temperature change.
I don't know much about the topic, All I know is that things that are rushed in for 'good' reasons without adequate research usually go wrong.
For example, our local council instituted recycling, and altered the rubbish collection schedule immediately so it's normal rubbish collected one week, recyclables the next.
The trouble is it turns out the firm responsible for the recycling can't handle all the sorts of things on the recycling list, so plastic lined cartons, plastic milk and drink bottles, carrier bags and glass can't be put in the recycling bin.
This means that a project started for the right reasons is now a big problem that they can't alter because they signed cheap long term contracts. Needless to say the two week collection cycle hasn't been changed.
A little research would have helped a lot I'd say, and this is just a tiny example.
Absolutelly. lets not rush into a new energy source before finding out whether it'll screw us over in the long run.
I can see the 'oil is evil' crowd getting annoyed at the delay, but we need to know what the effects of solar technology will be. For one thing the air around large solar plants may be significantly heated, raising the local temperature and damaging the environment immediatelly surrounding the plants.
A small effect perhaps, but so was smoke, once....
Whatever, this is a good move. I may be wrong about the local heating, there may be other dangers, or none at all. I'd prefer the facts came from a properly conducted study then the mouth of a solar power evangelist with passion but no facts supported by evidence.
Large clouds of nano tube mesh netting launched into orbit that would catch the smaller bits. Larger bits would need specially designed retrieval craft.
I'd say its more likely that the space junk detection bit will be more useful in the short term, since it'll need a whole lot more then this to stop another one like the Tunguska impactor.
What we need is a way of finding and clearing out the near earth orbitting man made crap so we can reliably place constellations of satellites in orbit, and open up commercial travel.
I want to see active asteroid mining taking place, and for that we need clear skies. Hundreds of ships going up and down a day will mean its absolutely required.
I rather like notepad++, and use it constantly. I haven't noticed anything about this. Mind you, I have been wrapped up in coding and haven't been following the China thing.
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Oh it doesn't hurt you at all as long as you're a conformist lemming who "has nothing to fear because he's done nothing 'wrong' ... "
Anyone who believes that deserves everything they get, but anyone who thinks that the existence of a centralised information system makes them more likely to be convicted unfairly or persecuted is equally deluded.
"slavery is the result of natural progression"
Bad example, Slavery was perfectly natural for thousands of years. Nowadays its viewed as evil, and rightly so, but for most of mankinds post hunter gatherer history it was a fact of life.
Technology has been moving this way for decades. There is even an argument that it's been moving this way for centuries.
And so what? How much is this really going to effect us? Really? As things stand we have all our information stored by banks, hospitals, employers, and social networks. This is a natural progression.
Anyone who thinks governments wouldn't do this obviously didn't pay attention at school. They've been doing this since they came into existence.
This isn't going to result in a police state. Whats going on in Zimbabwe leads to a police state, not what we have here. All this is is a centralisation of information.
As for me, I don't care whether they want this info or not. And as for the cybercriminal thing, you believe your bank/hospital/employer is any safer? Seriously?
If this move would damn us, we've already been damned for some time.
Next up, world doesn't end when this happens.
Your insanely witty and funny sig has made me think you are very smart.
well then what we will most likely see is support for blocking these packets becoming a standard feature of bittorrent clients
yes, yes, but, and this a very important but, it *wasn't* installed on millions of computers now was it..
Unix was superior to DOS too, didn't stop DOS from winning...
No, I meant DOS. You programmed using BASIC but it ran on DOS, therefore the statement writing a product for DOS was correct. Doesn't mean it made sense to anything else though...
It was the introduction of an OS that was common between computers was the big breakthrough. That was my point.
Ah BASIC, I had such fun with that language.
Don't you know the new required thought pattern? We aren't supposed to remember how nasty IBM were.
They are meant to be thought of as the poor unfortunate victims of an evil Microsoft, not the over confident and arrogant giant company who's failure to understand the market handed the world of computing to a small company whose owner lived on junk food and didn't wash much.
Being old I remember the time when Microsoft were this great company who liberated the computing world from the Unix wars. A company whose philosophy of getting their product out there cheaply and on everything meant I could finally afford a computer after several years of wanting, but not being able to buy, a Mac.
There was a time when Microsoft were the good guys, where people suddenly found that they could write a product for DOS and it would run on almost any computer. That meant it was possible to become a software house with a lot less effort and money than before.
I rather suspect people just don't realise what it was like before DOS.
Ok it didn't stay that way, or didn't unless you're a big Microsoft fan, but when I were young it was true.
Personally I wish they would get with the Open Source movement. I've been an open source developer for over five years, working with both Linux and Windows, and the lack of high level co-operation between the two camps is, in my opinion, is preventing a huge leap forward in computing.
I meant my character in Diablo, but the point remains the characters could get far too powerful. I had no problem playing diablo II through on my own.
The 1.10 patch made the game no longer possible to finish by yourself.
Did it? I don't recall that, The one problem I had with the Diablo games was that your character could get so absurdly powerful that you could beat anything.
I used to play as a sorcerer (memory fails, I don't remember the class name). By the time I stopped playing my character was so deadly that other players in the party had to run away before I used my offensive spells, because they'd get creamed too, no matter how well armoured they were.
It got a bit tedious in the end, all I'd ever see was dead things, because nothing got close enough to actually harm me.
I'm considered by most to be highly educated, and I still believe in the American Dream
I always thought the American dream was to live a live free from persecution and starvation. At least that was foremost in the mind of many early American immigrants.
When did it become to be wealthy and influential? After the gold rush I suspect. That version of the dream is all about power, and power attracts religion like shit attracts flies.
Fundies have already formed at least one accredited law school. You don't think a med school is possible at some point?
Possibly, but the graduates would be unable to work at almost any hospital, would be unsuitable for non clinical jobs such as drug research, and couldn't get jobs abroad.
Basically in order for it to work you would need creationist hospitals too. I don't discount the possibility, but to be a proper hospital there are federal regulations to meet.
Also, nothing can shake faith like a preventable death. Not to mention bring out the lawyers.
Science will not naturally prevail if the scientific community doesn't fight for it.
Oh it will, just not in the US. You think China is taking no notice of this move towards a religiously biased education system? They just started their space program...
Its happening everywhere, not just in the US. What we tend to find is that in the US these things make it into the public eye more easily.
It does worry me, this trend back to a less well informed age, but like most trends, it will probably change.
After all, The US was all but ready to disregard Darwinism and much of science in education just before Sputnik flew over and freaked everyone the fuck out.
We simply need to wait for the event that will prove the error in ignoring a progressive, scientific approach to education. I just hope it won't be too harsh.
My personal opinion is that it will come in the form of drastic economic and research decline as the older (and currently poorer) nations start to evolve to fill the gaps a US withdrawal from the field will create.
This sort of thing goes on all the time, The US went into the ascendancy with its scientific thinking when Germany and Europe went into decline in the late 18th early 19th century. Now that trend is reversing, with the more interesting work tending to occur in Europe.
Not that it's end game time for the US, it's still pretty strong academically. It's just that this strength is somewhat elitist, with the level of achievement required for success now being so high that people who would formally have moved to the US to advance their careers are choosing to stay at home or go elsewhere.
I've never seen a square anything in space in my life.
Governor Tarkin?
ok cooling then, my bad. But, and this is a big but, when that cooling of the surface is over an area of hundreds of square kilo meters, the local habitat would be altered.
Ok, for you and me it's no biggie, granted, but for the flora and fauna it could well be.
For one thing this might be deadly for many species of lizard. It's not as if they can cope with a constant temperature reduction, they've usually evolved to fit the local environment.
Still, this might be trivial, I admit, but two years to make sure its done correctly is not very long when you consider we've been pouring oil and cola pollution into the atmosphere for over a century.
Two years more of that will be bad, but if you think solar power will stop fossil fuel usage in the next fifty years, well, you'll be wrong, sorry.
well cooler then, it's still a temperature change.
I don't know much about the topic, All I know is that things that are rushed in for 'good' reasons without adequate research usually go wrong.
For example, our local council instituted recycling, and altered the rubbish collection schedule immediately so it's normal rubbish collected one week, recyclables the next.
The trouble is it turns out the firm responsible for the recycling can't handle all the sorts of things on the recycling list, so plastic lined cartons, plastic milk and drink bottles, carrier bags and glass can't be put in the recycling bin.
This means that a project started for the right reasons is now a big problem that they can't alter because they signed cheap long term contracts. Needless to say the two week collection cycle hasn't been changed.
A little research would have helped a lot I'd say, and this is just a tiny example.
grammar corrections are for essays and homework, not internet forums where typing is often fast. Get used to that or get another hobby.
Absolutelly. lets not rush into a new energy source before finding out whether it'll screw us over in the long run.
I can see the 'oil is evil' crowd getting annoyed at the delay, but we need to know what the effects of solar technology will be. For one thing the air around large solar plants may be significantly heated, raising the local temperature and damaging the environment immediatelly surrounding the plants.
A small effect perhaps, but so was smoke, once....
Whatever, this is a good move. I may be wrong about the local heating, there may be other dangers, or none at all. I'd prefer the facts came from a properly conducted study then the mouth of a solar power evangelist with passion but no facts supported by evidence.
The bigger question is: How do we clean it up?
Large clouds of nano tube mesh netting launched into orbit that would catch the smaller bits. Larger bits would need specially designed retrieval craft.
I'd say its more likely that the space junk detection bit will be more useful in the short term, since it'll need a whole lot more then this to stop another one like the Tunguska impactor.
What we need is a way of finding and clearing out the near earth orbitting man made crap so we can reliably place constellations of satellites in orbit, and open up commercial travel.
I want to see active asteroid mining taking place, and for that we need clear skies. Hundreds of ships going up and down a day will mean its absolutely required.
what worries is is how are they going to get tests to compare its performance with the V-1?
I live near London you see...
One can become accustomed to pain, whereas an itch can drive you insane.
It should be a rule to keep one's politics separate from such projects.
In Open Source? One might as well ask Stallman to run Vista.
This puzzles me.
I rather like notepad++, and use it constantly. I haven't noticed anything about this.
Mind you, I have been wrapped up in coding and haven't been following the China thing.
that's it, you're banned from the internet..