I don't think the really old modems contained hardware compression nor did the old tape drives (IIRC that is, I was really young then (plus I used a Commadore64 when all my freinds had ultra fast 386's with massive storage units, so I wasn't famalair with x86 hardware at the time)).
Most analog modems and tape drives now days have some form of hardware compression.
Also "back in the day" downloading a 1 meg text file over a 2400 baud modem could take awhile. Also storing a 1 meg text file on a 360K (340K?) floppy disk posed some problems. Pkzip helped A LOT.
On a side note, when I first started working on PC's for the fun of it, I always carried around a DOS boot disk and I always made sure PKzip was on it. I have no idea why I carried around a DOS boot disk EVERYWHERE I went. I guess "just in case" a PC has to be restored, in hidesight though, I don't think there was many PC's at baseball games or on hiking trips. But just in case a PC crashed in middle of no where without power, I had PKzip in my "toolkit" and knew it would come in useful.
By far PKzip is one of most stable programs out there, and it is extremely fast, it can scream on a 486 w/4 megs of ram. It is a well put together program.
This really makes me sad, I never hear of Phil Katz before this article, but I always wondered what the PK stood for in PKzip. Phil Katz made a dam good program, I am still wondering how such a gifted person could leave life so early.
Or another idea, make a distro that is easily configurable and flexiable. Say pre-config the distro for a certain machine/user, burn it to disk and then boot from that.
For example, config a distro for my grandma's computer with all hardware pre-setup and all Internet settings/programs configed for them. Take it over there, boot from the cd-rom, save everything (email/web browser cache) to zip drive. They want to boot the system? Stick in the disk, click 'connect' on KPPP, click 'KMail' and now they are on the Information Superhighway, how easy is that?
Basically make it real simple like the iOpen-er or iMac, so that anyone can be sending their first email in 5 minutes or less. But every burn would have to be pre-configed for each system/isp, would could really get time intense. Plus if it got screwed up even in the littest way (opps forgot/etc/some_obsecure_config_file.cfg) it would really mess them up. Plus I don't ever want my grandma to use the words "core" and "dump" in the same sentance.
What would be really cool would be to have a "Linux demo" that is bootable from cd-rom then mounts a ram disk as the / directory (for machine spefic config files (like for/etc/ppp/ppp.options) and then have the option to "flush" any files that have changed to either a zip drive or a floppy disk (the latter being more restirctive).
The idea behind this, would be to allow users to be able to "test" Linux without having a newbie tearing up his/her hard drive cause of it. Hell, now that I think about it, just disable all IDE/SCSI/FS support in the kernel or remove commands like fdisk from the cd-rom all together. So they couldn't trash their hard drive without first getting a "real" distro, by that time though they should have be intrested enough to take the time to do it Right.
You could actucally make a generic kernel that had module support for everything you could possiable think of. It would work like this, it would boot from CD-ROM, look for a floppy or zip drive, if there was config files on either of these media's it would use those when booting, else it would boot into the `default` setup.
This might be a really good idea for maybe a lugi, I can see it now `Luci Linux Demo Disk`
Pop the CD-ROM in (if the bios supports bootable cd-rom) or the boot floppy, it loads, someone from the lugi configs X, ppp and a couple other things for them really quick and off they go.
But then again this might have an ill effect, they might get a "false" or distrorted view of what exactly Linux is. And the second negative effect might be the user clicks on the `Netscape` icon and everything goes to hell...:)
No crap, have a sixteen volume "paper back" of all the slashdot post on the hell-whatever serious. Have 2000 pages of exciting reading, like:
"HOT GRITS IN YOUR PANTS"
and others like
"Mmmm portman... droool"
I think a rain forest can die for this:)
I do like Joh Katz's writing, but I am glad they aren't going to put in ALL of the slash posts. Nice to get a "filtered" version of the serious in paper book format.
something are better read online, other not. For example, a article on the bleeding edge of some new software, is going to change a lot and has to be updated a lot, this is better online. Dynamic content and things like slashdot, better online. Really, if you could get a slashdot newspaper, would you? (err, bad example, a slashdot newspaper is a dam good idea (fuck, there just goes my point)) Things like this are better online.
Other things are better in books, stories that don't change, like Old English Lit, the Bible, the dictornary, things like that. Who would want to read a 600 page "tale of 2 cities" online, not me, screw that. Or a good O'reilly book, curl up on the couch and read about the wonders of Perl/C++/Unix without all the dam eye strain and back problems.
After sitting at a computer screen for 16 fscking hours a day, it is nice to sit back with an O'Rielly book on a comfortable couch, smoke a few cigs and not getting emails/phones calls while reading.
Good fscking idea, lets overload the laggy network we have now with something that is better pushed though a DVD/vhs media. Oh and watching a low res movie that is flicking, good idea! That will get my $5... sigh
The above was sacarism, that or I am just bitter from the amount of bandwidth I have here... sigh
For the student, geeks and computer sciences that have to actucally work with the source code/software it is 100 times easier if the code is freely (as in speech) avaiable.
I am sorry, but I don't see ANY reason that software should be closed. What vaule does closed software have? less than nothing
Just because closed software has the ability to make immoral and unethical money though slezzy business practices, doesn't mean it is right. Business can make money though open source software and services, but the companies will have to work 100 times as hard, and compete based on product/service rather than lawyers/marketing.
Ohh you can see the rant building up in his eyes, lets get out of here, it is about to go off
Sorry, "most" everything in Java is an Object. Java really tries to push (even enforce) OOP practices on anything that it is justified (I don't even think Sun could justify an int being an object).
Java IMHO is a hardcore OO language.
Some launages *cough*perl*cough* you can do OOP(ing) in, but it isn't required or enforced, where other launages *cough*java*cough* stictly enforce it even when sometimes it doesn't make sense to newbie programmers like myself. Like a "Hello World" program, that the only thing it does it print "Hello World", my understand is you HAVE to make an object to do this and their is no way around it (maybe I just haven't gotten to the chapter on "How to break Java of enforcing OOP on simply 'one liner' programs)
You comment on that "is compiled to bytecode and executed by a VM is just an implementation issue", this is true, but my point here was that it was a concept and to really understand computers, one must understand the "why" and "how" it is implementation, and not just know "why" and "how" to use it (javac blah...; java blah).
There is a differance between knowing why and how Sun impletnated Java this way, and just merely knowing how to use it to `Big_Bobs_java_applet_to_annoy_people_that_vist_yo ur_crappy_web_site.jar`
I know there are native java compiles, but that wasn't my point:)
I do agree with you that a decent programer should be able to quickly pick up another programming launage from knowing the concepts of a former/current launage they where/are working with.
My point was simple, I don't know why I used so many words, just confused everyone. The point being
"USING a computer, and UNDERSTANDING a computer are two completly diffearnt things."
Patrick Volkerding of Slackware fame preferes Boxes to Breifs. Do you agree with this, or have negative feels towards this?
Do you think this issuse has any impact on the Open Source Movement, and do more OSS developers prefer one to the other? What is the trend with commerical developers, and how is the Boxers or Breifs issuse related to software development?
What does OSS/GPL software need/want most(as in terms of talent) more than anything?
And do you think people are "getting" into the OSS/GPL movement now that is becoming profitable (greed)instead of getting into it for the right reasons? Could you refresh exactly on what the "right reasons" are for getting into to the OSS/GPL movement, from your point of view. (and don't cut&paste from your web site:)
IMHO it is just C++ "cleaned up", more OOP concepts (everything is now an object,even if you don't want/need it to be!:) and stuffed everything though into bytecode instead of native instuctions.
Nothing is NEW about Java, all these concepts have been used in one form or another. It is just a New "package" it was put into. Just "mixed and matched" concepts from the CS/programming "bin of ideas already used and known to work"
If you have a firm grasped on the basic CS concepts, you should be able to pick it up in a couple weeks (months at most).
It depends on what you want to learn, but you want to learn about computer or learn how to get a job in the market place?
For example, if you learn binary (which most colleges teach), this does NOT go out of sytle. If you learned binary operators (add/substact in binary for example) 30 years ago, this CONCEPT will still be usefull today. College teaches CONCEPTS.
Training programs/certifactions and the like do NOT teach concepts, they teach USAGE. How to USE the concepts, not how to understand the concepts.
If you want to learn an operating system about concepts, start with an Open Source Unix, and do everything in `vi` and do it by the book, till you understand it, then start programming it and looking at it's souce code (posix docs help). If you want to use an operating system so that you can get $10 an hour at "Bob and Tim's Big Ass Computer and icecream store", get Microsoft/Apple OS and you get your job.
Good Concepts will stay with you forever, Good Marketable jobs skills with stay with you from anywhere from 2 weeks to 20 years, take your chances.
Seriously though, this doesn't sound like a college for your average techno kid, it sounds something that would take one from a software programmer, to a elite computer hacker. The best or the best, the elite or the elite.
I guarnette anyone that goes though this and pulls more than a 3.8 GPA is not going to care about a $125K per year lose.
There is more things in life that money, their is passion, anger, creativity and exploring and simulating the HIGHER and more advantanced brain funcations, the part of the brain that is above greed and basic human desires. The part of the brain that thinks "Is there a God?" That is the part of the brain that is going to be simulated by this type of schooling, hardcore, every day exercise, exploration and stimulation of this part of the human mind.
If you want to stimulate your greed and basic human desires (read: seven deadly sins) then stay with your $125K job, I wish you happiness. But for the people that are bright enough and motivated enough I think this is a blessing
J(ust)MHO (I shouldn't really be saying anything, not even having a BA. I am probably just bitter because I can't afford college (People with $125K/year jobs bashing a college because it is free gets to me (I wish I could find a free undergrad college!)))
I got one of those, bought a new laptop also, full stack P3. I got it on monday, plugged it in and NOTHING worked. I called tech support and they said
"Sir, the unit must be in direct sunlight for it to work"
"Excuse me?"
"Sir, you must take the unit outside with you, it needs to be exposed to direct sun light for it to harvest enough engry for it to power you laptop"
"uh, ok"
At this point I had no idea what he was talking about, but at the risk of sounding dumb I replied
"right-o boy, thanks it is working now"
Having no idea what 'sunlight' was, or where to download a copy, I did a search on http://www.google.com and came up with a few links.
My finds indicate that "direct sunlight" is "light" that is not produced by a light bulb, but rather an object that is referered to as the "sun". Easy enough I though, I take the unit and my laptop into the server room, and place the unit directly under a Sparc Station 20. Giving it 20 minutes (has to charge) the laptop still was not receiving power from the unit. Thinking quickly, a SS20 these days isn't/that/ powerful.
Pushing pass ethernet cords I set the unit directly under an a cluster of Ultra 10's. "That should do it" I proudly thought to my self, waiting, waiting, I was sure it was going to work this time. After 30 minutes I re-contacted tech support.
"Sir, *THE* SUN, you know, *OUTSIDE*."
Ah, I felt really stupid at this point. I decided to contact Sun tech support and see if it was a defect in the rays their servers where giving out. I relayed what the other tech support told me to Sun's kernel group, they to where making refereres to the "OUTSIDE". Hanging up before they thought I was stupid.
Loading up Netscape on my workstaton, I typed in http://www.theoutside.com and came across a punk band. After searching their site for 4 hours staight I still didn't see any "SUN"
*sigh*
Really depessed I started talking about my problem with this unit on IRC. A helpfully person by the name of "Bob76" on #bob_channel enlightened me to a whole other world. Not methophically mind you, but really a WHOLE OTHER WORLD. See said that someone in my room there would be an object called a "door" that was either made of wood or metal. Searching around and relaying my finds to "Bob76" I finally found the "door" after many failed attempts.
"Bob76" insturcted me to go out the door. Bob even helped me Crack the security methods on this certain door (I feel elite!:) Out side the door I seen people I knew from when I was younger. They starting talking to me, and poking me and making this awful sounds (Bob said it was probably laughter), confused and dazed I retreated back into my room to review the sisuation with Bob.
He said these strange cretures where *REAL* "people" and that this was known as "*real life*". Bob started getting weird with this topic, about people and life, really deep, but creepy.
quickly changing the topic, bob insturcted me, that their would be yet ANOTHER door after the first one, and maybe something called a "hall way" of other rooms with strange names like "kicthen" or "living room". Bob advised me to quickly open the door, keep my head down and quickly find the other door. He said this second door should take me outside.
Packing up the solar unit and the laptop, I thanked bob and decided to go for it.
I quickly opened the other door and these people started using strange launge like "hi" and "how are you", I keep my head down and didn't say anything like bob instructed, I quickly moved in and out of this maze of other rooms and "halls" and finally came upon the second door.
I started to sweet and time seem to stand stil, I reached out and opened the door. tossed the solar unit and laptop out on what appeared to be "green carpet, but real dirty" I push out and I knew I was outside.
My eyes started to burn from this intense light, and my skin started to burn, the light was really intense and bright, pushing on me, burning me, making me really disilluated and confused. I feel to the ground and all I could see was WHITE, burning my eyes, face hands, arms
I managed to find my way back into the second door and quickly close it. confused, but a lot better, I made my way back to my workstation, making sure I closed and re-enabled the security fearture on the first door I orginally found.
I felt really terriable for days after the experince, my laptop and the solar unit is still traped in this hell know to bob as the "outside". I think Bob is the devil.
I hacked out 20 thousands lines of ASM code, porting the Linux kernel to a embedded device I found in my alarm clock, after that I felt a lot better. It was only a 2-bit cpu with 32 byets of main memory, but quickly rewiring it, and using some ram I pulled from a CD-players LCD I was able to get a nice port of kernel 2.2.13 to it.
Anyways, I still don't know how I am going to get my laptop back, hell can keep it's "solar panel", I think it was sent here as a temptation from bob (the devil) to lure me out into hell ("the outside").
second, even if this system IS moral, it still does not provide any security in the school system. If I kid really wants to kill something, trully and honest wants to gun someone down, he will gun them down BEFORE anyone has time to notice. It is like sucide, if a kid really wants to kill them self, they will and there isn't NOTHING anyone can do before hand. If they "look" and leave "hints" like they are going to kill themselves, they aren't going to, they just want understanding, love or something like that, they don't want to die.
If I was going to hAx0rS the DOD web page, I won't tell ANYONE about it, I would do it and get it done with. If I told EVERYONE that I was going to hAx0rS the DOD web page, I would just be a script kiddie "bragging" to his script kiddie buddy and didn't have the real skill required to r00t a DOD box.
Same thing. If any highschool kid trully wanted to achive the goal of killing multi-class mates, they would do it, and they would keep fucking quite it about it. Cause they KNOW if they get caught or talk about it, they can't complete their goal (killing-classmates).
I don't see ANYWAY this can stop kids from killing kids. The only thing that can stop that is parents do their fucking job! It is the parents job to teach our kids right and wrong, not some companies. Do you really think a money grubbing company like "Pink0 Bastards, Inc(TM)" can teach our kids right/wrong though bidding them with T-Shirts?
The only reason I am never having kids is because I know for a fact I would really fuck them up in the head and won't be surpised if they came out mass murders. If I did have kids though, I would make sure they would be able to funcation in society without the use of auto-matic weapons. I just think parents need to do their fucking jobs and stop relaying on a "Quick-fix patch for kids" yes you, average parent know can fix you kid with one easy payment of $24.45, if your kid ends up on the six o'clock news, you get double your money back.
Comeone people, is "PinkO Bastards, Inc.(TM)" this fucking stupid or greed to sell our kids so they can buy a new fucking house.
God dam this pisses me off, I think every one should call "anonymous tips" into 60 minutes claiming the CEO of "PinkO Bastards, Inc.(TM)" does LSD while masterbating to the weather channel.
"OH YEA PARTLY COULDY, OHHH SHOW ME THAT SLIVER LINING, SMACK THAT WHITE FLUFF UP GOOD BITCH, WHO'S YOUR DADDY, WHO'S YOU DADDY"
If these people are honestly concern with the safety of our school system, they should do it in a more community involed type of way (not that I am saying this is RIGHT (anonymous kids doing oddball profiling) but there could be a better way of doing it)
If they are trully concern, why not start up a non-profit org, so that their will be nothing to temp the greedy. Have it avaiable and open to the school (students/parents) and anyone else trully concerned for our kids.
Have it completly open and have a vote where everyone (including the kids) have an equal vote in the "best" way to protect our school and provide a more productive learning envoriment.
Right now, everyone is say "Pinkerton (whatever their name is) isn't conerned, but are just greedy fucking bastards and should burn in hell for using our childern to pull a fast buck" Take money out of the sisuation Pinkerton, do it non-profit and give EVERYONE an equal vote in the process used in the school systems. Pinkerton don't say THIS is the way it is going to be, and we WILL make money off of it. Say WHAT do the parents and childern think, and HOW is the best way to do this?
The parents and childern and the ones that are IN the school, so they know beter how it operaters than some money grubbing company.
Pinkerton == PinkO Bastards
Pleaes prove me wrong Pinkerton
And I SURPISED no one has quoted the simpsons yet
"WILL SOMEONE PLESE THINK OF THE CHILDERN!" -- Ma Flanders (RIP(God bless her soul))
What next, suing Home Depot for selling the lead pipe that killed Mr. Boddy?
We all know this is FUD CmdTaco, everyone knows Mr. Green was killed by the lead pipe (in the kicthen if you where wonder), and Mr. Blue was killed with the rope (IIRC in the bathrom).
And who exactly is Mr. Boddy, you twisted pet name for cowboy neil? Get with the program CmdTaco, if you check altavisa, google or yahoo "people" search, there has never and will be never a Mr. Boddy (there is a Mrs. Booty if you are wondering).
So please explain to us, the public, the ACs and the "hot grits" trolls, explain to us, on that frightfull night who did you REALLY kill Mr. CmdTaco?!? Admit it The Mr. Boddy murders where nothing more then a cover up played wonderfully by you the CIA! Admit it Mr. CmdTaco for the record What really happened?!?
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I don't think the really old modems contained hardware compression nor did the old tape drives (IIRC that is, I was really young then (plus I used a Commadore64 when all my freinds had ultra fast 386's with massive storage units, so I wasn't famalair with x86 hardware at the time)).
Most analog modems and tape drives now days have some form of hardware compression.
Also "back in the day" downloading a 1 meg text file over a 2400 baud modem could take awhile. Also storing a 1 meg text file on a 360K (340K?) floppy disk posed some problems. Pkzip helped A LOT.
On a side note, when I first started working on PC's for the fun of it, I always carried around a DOS boot disk and I always made sure PKzip was on it. I have no idea why I carried around a DOS boot disk EVERYWHERE I went. I guess "just in case" a PC has to be restored, in hidesight though, I don't think there was many PC's at baseball games or on hiking trips. But just in case a PC crashed in middle of no where without power, I had PKzip in my "toolkit" and knew it would come in useful.
By far PKzip is one of most stable programs out there, and it is extremely fast, it can scream on a 486 w/4 megs of ram. It is a well put together program.
This really makes me sad, I never hear of Phil Katz before this article, but I always wondered what the PK stood for in PKzip. Phil Katz made a dam good program, I am still wondering how such a gifted person could leave life so early.
Genius is linked with madness.
and madness is linked with tragedy...
and tragedy is linked with sadness and sorrow.
Or another idea, make a distro that is easily configurable and flexiable. Say pre-config the distro for a certain machine/user, burn it to disk and then boot from that.
/etc/some_obsecure_config_file.cfg) it would really mess them up. Plus I don't ever want my grandma to use the words "core" and "dump" in the same sentance.
For example, config a distro for my grandma's computer with all hardware pre-setup and all Internet settings/programs configed for them. Take it over there, boot from the cd-rom, save everything (email/web browser cache) to zip drive. They want to boot the system? Stick in the disk, click 'connect' on KPPP, click 'KMail' and now they are on the Information Superhighway, how easy is that?
Basically make it real simple like the iOpen-er or iMac, so that anyone can be sending their first email in 5 minutes or less. But every burn would have to be pre-configed for each system/isp, would could really get time intense. Plus if it got screwed up even in the littest way (opps forgot
What would be really cool would be to have a "Linux demo" that is bootable from cd-rom then mounts a ram disk as the / directory (for machine spefic config files (like for /etc/ppp/ppp.options) and then have the option to "flush" any files that have changed to either a zip drive or a floppy disk (the latter being more restirctive).
:)
The idea behind this, would be to allow users to be able to "test" Linux without having a newbie tearing up his/her hard drive cause of it. Hell, now that I think about it, just disable all IDE/SCSI/FS support in the kernel or remove commands like fdisk from the cd-rom all together. So they couldn't trash their hard drive without first getting a "real" distro, by that time though they should have be intrested enough to take the time to do it Right.
You could actucally make a generic kernel that had module support for everything you could possiable think of. It would work like this, it would boot from CD-ROM, look for a floppy or zip drive, if there was config files on either of these media's it would use those when booting, else it would boot into the `default` setup.
This might be a really good idea for maybe a lugi, I can see it now `Luci Linux Demo Disk`
Pop the CD-ROM in (if the bios supports bootable cd-rom) or the boot floppy, it loads, someone from the lugi configs X, ppp and a couple other things for them really quick and off they go.
But then again this might have an ill effect, they might get a "false" or distrorted view of what exactly Linux is. And the second negative effect might be the user clicks on the `Netscape` icon and everything goes to hell...
No crap, have a sixteen volume "paper back" of all the slashdot post on the hell-whatever serious. Have 2000 pages of exciting reading, like:
:)
"HOT GRITS IN YOUR PANTS"
and others like
"Mmmm portman... droool"
I think a rain forest can die for this
I do like Joh Katz's writing, but I am glad they aren't going to put in ALL of the slash posts. Nice to get a "filtered" version of the serious in paper book format.
something are better read online, other not. For example, a article on the bleeding edge of some new software, is going to change a lot and has to be updated a lot, this is better online. Dynamic content and things like slashdot, better online. Really, if you could get a slashdot newspaper, would you? (err, bad example, a slashdot newspaper is a dam good idea (fuck, there just goes my point)) Things like this are better online.
Other things are better in books, stories that don't change, like Old English Lit, the Bible, the dictornary, things like that. Who would want to read a 600 page "tale of 2 cities" online, not me, screw that. Or a good O'reilly book, curl up on the couch and read about the wonders of Perl/C++/Unix without all the dam eye strain and back problems.
After sitting at a computer screen for 16 fscking hours a day, it is nice to sit back with an O'Rielly book on a comfortable couch, smoke a few cigs and not getting emails/phones calls while reading.
Good fscking idea, lets overload the laggy network we have now with something that is better pushed though a DVD/vhs media. Oh and watching a low res movie that is flicking, good idea! That will get my $5... sigh
The above was sacarism, that or I am just bitter from the amount of bandwidth I have here... sigh
All software should be open under a GPL or simpler license.
For the student, geeks and computer sciences that have to actucally work with the source code/software it is 100 times easier if the code is freely (as in speech) avaiable.
For the commerical blood suckers they should fight and make money on terms of good software/support and not on marketing and a huge amount of lawyers.
I am sorry, but I don't see ANY reason that software should be closed. What vaule does closed software have? less than nothing
Just because closed software has the ability to make immoral and unethical money though slezzy business practices, doesn't mean it is right. Business can make money though open source software and services, but the companies will have to work 100 times as hard, and compete based on product/service rather than lawyers/marketing.
Ohh you can see the rant building up in his eyes, lets get out of here, it is about to go off
Sorry, "most" everything in Java is an Object. Java really tries to push (even enforce) OOP practices on anything that it is justified (I don't even think Sun could justify an int being an object).
o ur_crappy_web_site.jar`
:)
Java IMHO is a hardcore OO language.
Some launages *cough*perl*cough* you can do OOP(ing) in, but it isn't required or enforced, where other launages *cough*java*cough* stictly enforce it even when sometimes it doesn't make sense to newbie programmers like myself. Like a "Hello World" program, that the only thing it does it print "Hello World", my understand is you HAVE to make an object to do this and their is no way around it (maybe I just haven't gotten to the chapter on "How to break Java of enforcing OOP on simply 'one liner' programs)
You comment on that "is compiled to bytecode and executed by a VM is just an implementation issue", this is true, but my point here was that it was a concept and to really understand computers, one must understand the "why" and "how" it is implementation, and not just know "why" and "how" to use it (javac blah...; java blah).
There is a differance between knowing why and how Sun impletnated Java this way, and just merely knowing how to use it to `Big_Bobs_java_applet_to_annoy_people_that_vist_y
I know there are native java compiles, but that wasn't my point
I do agree with you that a decent programer should be able to quickly pick up another programming launage from knowing the concepts of a former/current launage they where/are working with.
My point was simple, I don't know why I used so many words, just confused everyone. The point being
"USING a computer, and UNDERSTANDING a computer are two completly diffearnt things."
Patrick Volkerding of Slackware fame preferes Boxes to Breifs. Do you agree with this, or have negative feels towards this?
Do you think this issuse has any impact on the Open Source Movement, and do more OSS developers prefer one to the other? What is the trend with commerical developers, and how is the Boxers or Breifs issuse related to software development?
What does OSS/GPL software need/want most(as in terms of talent) more than anything?
:)
And do you think people are "getting" into the OSS/GPL movement now that is becoming profitable (greed)instead of getting into it for the right reasons? Could you refresh exactly on what the "right reasons" are for getting into to the OSS/GPL movement, from your point of view. (and don't cut&paste from your web site
Eh? What's so new about Java?
IMHO it is just C++ "cleaned up", more OOP concepts (everything is now an object
Nothing is NEW about Java, all these concepts have been used in one form or another. It is just a New "package" it was put into. Just "mixed and matched" concepts from the CS/programming "bin of ideas already used and known to work"
If you have a firm grasped on the basic CS concepts, you should be able to pick it up in a couple weeks (months at most).
It depends on what you want to learn, but you want to learn about computer or learn how to get a job in the market place?
For example, if you learn binary (which most colleges teach), this does NOT go out of sytle. If you learned binary operators (add/substact in binary for example) 30 years ago, this CONCEPT will still be usefull today. College teaches CONCEPTS.
Training programs/certifactions and the like do NOT teach concepts, they teach USAGE. How to USE the concepts, not how to understand the concepts.
If you want to learn an operating system about concepts, start with an Open Source Unix, and do everything in `vi` and do it by the book, till you understand it, then start programming it and looking at it's souce code (posix docs help). If you want to use an operating system so that you can get $10 an hour at "Bob and Tim's Big Ass Computer and icecream store", get Microsoft/Apple OS and you get your job.
Good Concepts will stay with you forever, Good Marketable jobs skills with stay with you from anywhere from 2 weeks to 20 years, take your chances.
Think of it as the "Navy Seals" of CS, hell year.
Seriously though, this doesn't sound like a college for your average techno kid, it sounds something that would take one from a software programmer, to a elite computer hacker. The best or the best, the elite or the elite.
I guarnette anyone that goes though this and pulls more than a 3.8 GPA is not going to care about a $125K per year lose.
There is more things in life that money, their is passion, anger, creativity and exploring and simulating the HIGHER and more advantanced brain funcations, the part of the brain that is above greed and basic human desires. The part of the brain that thinks "Is there a God?" That is the part of the brain that is going to be simulated by this type of schooling, hardcore, every day exercise, exploration and stimulation of this part of the human mind.
If you want to stimulate your greed and basic human desires (read: seven deadly sins) then stay with your $125K job, I wish you happiness. But for the people that are bright enough and motivated enough I think this is a blessing
J(ust)MHO (I shouldn't really be saying anything, not even having a BA. I am probably just bitter because I can't afford college (People with $125K/year jobs bashing a college because it is free gets to me (I wish I could find a free undergrad college!)))
I got one of those, bought a new laptop also, full stack P3. I got it on monday, plugged it in and NOTHING worked. I called tech support and they said
/that/ powerful.
:) Out side the door I seen people I knew from when I was younger. They starting talking to me, and poking me and making this awful sounds (Bob said it was probably laughter), confused and dazed I retreated back into my room to review the sisuation with Bob.
"Sir, the unit must be in direct sunlight for it to work"
"Excuse me?"
"Sir, you must take the unit outside with you, it needs to be exposed to direct sun light for it to harvest enough engry for it to power you laptop"
"uh, ok"
At this point I had no idea what he was talking about, but at the risk of sounding dumb I replied
"right-o boy, thanks it is working now"
Having no idea what 'sunlight' was, or where to download a copy, I did a search on http://www.google.com and came up with a few links.
My finds indicate that "direct sunlight" is "light" that is not produced by a light bulb, but rather an object that is referered to as the "sun". Easy enough I though, I take the unit and my laptop into the server room, and place the unit directly under a Sparc Station 20. Giving it 20 minutes (has to charge) the laptop still was not receiving power from the unit. Thinking quickly, a SS20 these days isn't
Pushing pass ethernet cords I set the unit directly under an a cluster of Ultra 10's. "That should do it" I proudly thought to my self, waiting, waiting, I was sure it was going to work this time. After 30 minutes I re-contacted tech support.
"Sir, *THE* SUN, you know, *OUTSIDE*."
Ah, I felt really stupid at this point. I decided to contact Sun tech support and see if it was a defect in the rays their servers where giving out. I relayed what the other tech support told me to Sun's kernel group, they to where making refereres to the "OUTSIDE". Hanging up before they thought I was stupid.
Loading up Netscape on my workstaton, I typed in http://www.theoutside.com and came across a punk band. After searching their site for 4 hours staight I still didn't see any "SUN"
*sigh*
Really depessed I started talking about my problem with this unit on IRC. A helpfully person by the name of "Bob76" on #bob_channel enlightened me to a whole other world. Not methophically mind you, but really a WHOLE OTHER WORLD. See said that someone in my room there would be an object called a "door" that was either made of wood or metal. Searching around and relaying my finds to "Bob76" I finally found the "door" after many failed attempts.
"Bob76" insturcted me to go out the door. Bob even helped me Crack the security methods on this certain door (I feel elite!
He said these strange cretures where *REAL* "people" and that this was known as "*real life*". Bob started getting weird with this topic, about people and life, really deep, but creepy.
quickly changing the topic, bob insturcted me, that their would be yet ANOTHER door after the first one, and maybe something called a "hall way" of other rooms with strange names like "kicthen" or "living room". Bob advised me to quickly open the door, keep my head down and quickly find the other door. He said this second door should take me outside.
Packing up the solar unit and the laptop, I thanked bob and decided to go for it.
I quickly opened the other door and these people started using strange launge like "hi" and "how are you", I keep my head down and didn't say anything like bob instructed, I quickly moved in and out of this maze of other rooms and "halls" and finally came upon the second door.
I started to sweet and time seem to stand stil, I reached out and opened the door. tossed the solar unit and laptop out on what appeared to be "green carpet, but real dirty" I push out and I knew I was outside.
My eyes started to burn from this intense light, and my skin started to burn, the light was really intense and bright, pushing on me, burning me, making me really disilluated and confused. I feel to the ground and all I could see was WHITE, burning my eyes, face hands, arms
I managed to find my way back into the second door and quickly close it. confused, but a lot better, I made my way back to my workstation, making sure I closed and re-enabled the security fearture on the first door I orginally found.
I felt really terriable for days after the experince, my laptop and the solar unit is still traped in this hell know to bob as the "outside". I think Bob is the devil.
I hacked out 20 thousands lines of ASM code, porting the Linux kernel to a embedded device I found in my alarm clock, after that I felt a lot better. It was only a 2-bit cpu with 32 byets of main memory, but quickly rewiring it, and using some ram I pulled from a CD-players LCD I was able to get a nice port of kernel 2.2.13 to it.
Anyways, I still don't know how I am going to get my laptop back, hell can keep it's "solar panel", I think it was sent here as a temptation from bob (the devil) to lure me out into hell ("the outside").
remember, it's not EVERYDAY you see a porn star
You obviously work at the Wrong Place then
JenniCam is THE BEST SlashBox of all times man.
your right.
sorry I get those 2 confused, they look so much the same.
Ask Slash:
My math assignment is posted here please post all answers into the cgi forum, and remeber to show your work.
second, even if this system IS moral, it still does not provide any security in the school system. If I kid really wants to kill something, trully and honest wants to gun someone down, he will gun them down BEFORE anyone has time to notice. It is like sucide, if a kid really wants to kill them self, they will and there isn't NOTHING anyone can do before hand. If they "look" and leave "hints" like they are going to kill themselves, they aren't going to, they just want understanding, love or something like that, they don't want to die.
If I was going to hAx0rS the DOD web page, I won't tell ANYONE about it, I would do it and get it done with. If I told EVERYONE that I was going to hAx0rS the DOD web page, I would just be a script kiddie "bragging" to his script kiddie buddy and didn't have the real skill required to r00t a DOD box.
Same thing. If any highschool kid trully wanted to achive the goal of killing multi-class mates, they would do it, and they would keep fucking quite it about it. Cause they KNOW if they get caught or talk about it, they can't complete their goal (killing-classmates).
I don't see ANYWAY this can stop kids from killing kids. The only thing that can stop that is parents do their fucking job! It is the parents job to teach our kids right and wrong, not some companies. Do you really think a money grubbing company like "Pink0 Bastards, Inc(TM)" can teach our kids right/wrong though bidding them with T-Shirts?
The only reason I am never having kids is because I know for a fact I would really fuck them up in the head and won't be surpised if they came out mass murders. If I did have kids though, I would make sure they would be able to funcation in society without the use of auto-matic weapons. I just think parents need to do their fucking jobs and stop relaying on a "Quick-fix patch for kids" yes you, average parent know can fix you kid with one easy payment of $24.45, if your kid ends up on the six o'clock news, you get double your money back.
Comeone people, is "PinkO Bastards, Inc.(TM)" this fucking stupid or greed to sell our kids so they can buy a new fucking house.
God dam this pisses me off, I think every one should call "anonymous tips" into 60 minutes claiming the CEO of "PinkO Bastards, Inc.(TM)" does LSD while masterbating to the weather channel.
"OH YEA PARTLY COULDY, OHHH SHOW ME THAT SLIVER LINING, SMACK THAT WHITE FLUFF UP GOOD BITCH, WHO'S YOUR DADDY, WHO'S YOU DADDY"
If these people are honestly concern with the safety of our school system, they should do it in a more community involed type of way (not that I am saying this is RIGHT (anonymous kids doing oddball profiling) but there could be a better way of doing it)
If they are trully concern, why not start up a non-profit org, so that their will be nothing to temp the greedy. Have it avaiable and open to the school (students/parents) and anyone else trully concerned for our kids.
Have it completly open and have a vote where everyone (including the kids) have an equal vote in the "best" way to protect our school and provide a more productive learning envoriment.
Right now, everyone is say "Pinkerton (whatever their name is) isn't conerned, but are just greedy fucking bastards and should burn in hell for using our childern to pull a fast buck" Take money out of the sisuation Pinkerton, do it non-profit and give EVERYONE an equal vote in the process used in the school systems. Pinkerton don't say THIS is the way it is going to be, and we WILL make money off of it. Say WHAT do the parents and childern think, and HOW is the best way to do this?
The parents and childern and the ones that are IN the school, so they know beter how it operaters than some money grubbing company.
Pinkerton == PinkO Bastards
Pleaes prove me wrong Pinkerton
And I SURPISED no one has quoted the simpsons yet
"WILL SOMEONE PLESE THINK OF THE CHILDERN!" -- Ma Flanders (RIP(God bless her soul))
Go get em Jon. Katz rules!
I think this proves the theory of hackers in other things then computers. Nice artcile, my hat is off to you Dr. Katz.
Katz kicks asz.
What next, suing Home Depot for selling the lead pipe that killed Mr. Boddy?
We all know this is FUD CmdTaco, everyone knows Mr. Green was killed by the lead pipe (in the kicthen if you where wonder), and Mr. Blue was killed with the rope (IIRC in the bathrom).
And who exactly is Mr. Boddy, you twisted pet name for cowboy neil? Get with the program CmdTaco, if you check altavisa, google or yahoo "people" search, there has never and will be never a Mr. Boddy (there is a Mrs. Booty if you are wondering).
So please explain to us, the public, the ACs and the "hot grits" trolls, explain to us, on that frightfull night who did you REALLY kill Mr. CmdTaco?!? Admit it The Mr. Boddy murders where nothing more then a cover up played wonderfully by you the CIA! Admit it Mr. CmdTaco for the record What really happened?!?
come on `linuxgames.com` slashdotted, get with the figging program
undersized? don't you mean OVERsized shirts?
try shinymonkey, thinkgeek or copyleft.net (.com?)