Well, the "You do what you want, while we do what we want" statement holds no water when it comes to this case, and here is why:
Scientists as you accurately point out, deal with the observable. Religion is not observable for the most part, and therefore off the radar for scientists. Religion however demands that you accept and believe notions because you are not supposed to understand them. Therefore what scientists say is fair game, as it may conflict with what religion has led us to believe.
I wonder what some of these have to do with psychology?
18.I am very seldom troubled by constipation
60.I do not read every editorial in the newspaper everyday
29.I am bothered by acid stomach several times a week
The lawyer's job is NOT to evaluate your best course of action that balances your wishes to keep the material with your wishes not to be sued. The lawyer will only do two things: (1) advise you to minimize your risks; (2) represent you if you keep the material up.
Well, yes, if you hire a cereal container for a lawyer, this will certainly be the case.
If you however hire a lawyer and ask for advice on why this request for taking it down is not valid, you might get a list of responses that accurately answers the question. Or then again, you might get what you just wrote. When speaking to a lawyer, make sure they know your mindframe in this. Do you want to keep it up? Do you want to fight to keep it up? What is your motivation for keeping it up as opposed to just taking it down?
Should it get to court, chances are that you will want these sort of arguments presented just as much as the legal side of the fence.
Note that in your list 2 and 3 require money/resources and your 4th option isn't really an option, it's more a disclaimer saying you haven't thought of everything.
You could aggregate your options to this:
1) Take it down.
2) Spend money to maybe not take it down
The poster just has to work out which of the choices he wants to play with.
Why do all of the Ask Slashdot questions boil down to: "I want free legal advice. Give me an opinion on x."
Because us nerds are scared of the law and getting out of pocket with fines/thrown into jail (We just won't do well in that environment) but at the same time we don't want to go paying someone for legal advice that is going to leave us out of pocket. It's such a conundrum!
I can only watch as my jaw is hanging limply. I can't believe that anyone who got power to do something would abuse that power. Really. Truly. They promised they wouldn't when we brought it up before. They said they were only doing it for us.
Anti-abortionist protestors will frequently hold up graphic (bordering on pornographic) posters showing aborted fetii. This is done in full view of children.
Sorry, how can you possibly link an aborted fetus to pornography?
Either learn to make a proper counter argument, or stop using the "For the CHILDRENZ" argument. Both will help you look less like a fool here on slashdot.
Secondly, while I don't disagree that we wouldn't be worse off without the two sites you mentioned - I do STRONGLY disagree that sites that for example promote anti-abortion should be disallowed. (For the record I am pro-abortion). My point is if the law was passed to block child porn sites, okay, block child porn sites. Don't start using it to block anything you want on a secret list that you can't discuss.
Actually he waited until the studio broke the contract they had signed with him. They made derivative works (a fiction trilogy) based on that episode, which is in turn based on what he wrote.
Contract broken, he is entitled to compensation - whether he is an ass or not doesn't (or shouldn't) come into this.
Actually, all kidding aside, yeah he is (wrong). Amusing, possibly. But wrong, definately.
He did the work under contract. Just as the work I do under contract isn't mine, neither was his. He's pissed because back then, he agreed to such a setup (or more accurately the Writers Guild agreed, which he was a member of), but legally he's got about as much ground to stand on as someone living in New Orleans during Katrina.
Do you have the remotest understanding about this post? And why the hell is that post insightful? Mods, wake up!
The CONTRACT he worked under gave him a portion of derivative works based on his work.
Two years ago a derivative work (fiction trilogy) was published.
Harlan asks for what his contract said he would get.
Corporations refuse. Harlan sues for breach of contract.
Whether he is an ass or not doesn't matter. It's a contract that was signed by both parties and now one party doesn't want to stick to it.
Everything over 20 years old should be in the public domain, including my own works.
Are you really trying to say that if you (I do assume here you are over twenty years old) saw a picture of yourself as a baby suddenly the multi million dollar advertising face for say, a nappy brand you wouldn't be up in arms for a cut? Sorry mate, I call bullshit on that.
The fine article also states that Thailand's blocklist [wikileaks.org] has been leaked. I thought you'd want to read it for yourself in addition to the Denmark one.
Please god... please god... please god let this Streisand Effect.
There is no contest in life for which the unprepared have the advantage.
What about the "Shocked look at a surprise birthday party" competition, or the "caught with your pants down at the photocopier" annual event or even the little known "we were going to tell you that you were adopted when you were older" sweeps?
Sony doesn't charge me for firmware upgrades for my PS3. Nintendo doesn't charge me for firmware upgrades for my Wii. BlackBerry and T-Mobile don't charge me for upgrades for my BlackBerry.
WHy does apple do this kind of crap? Is the touch less expensive or subsidized or ANYTHING that would justify having to pay vs their Iphone counterparts?
It's simple business: Do YOU want to explain to all the telecommunications companies why their customers CANNOT get a free firmware upgrade? Who apart from consumers is going to complain about having to pay for an iTouch firmware upgrade?
Don't laugh, in breaking news at seven, either IBM, Microsoft or one of the other "Big boys" will announce that they have a patent on "Copy and Paste" functionality from "way back" and the iPhone will lose that functionality pending a lawsuit.
To be fair, he did disrespect a major record label. Isn't that a corporate offense that requires jail time?
While this is slashdot, and I am aware that all comments around record labels and recording industry need to be taken with a shaker of salt, would we be reacting differently to this if someone had say, stolen a document with Steven Kings latest work and put it up on a website before it was published, or perhaps the latest Harry Potter hash?
Sure, they are musicians who have lived the golden life for the past twenty something years, and I am sure that they don't have to go through the menial tasks that make up most people's lives, but for goodness sake, at least let them put their wares on the marketplace BEFORE someone reviews it and says what a horrible trumped up waste of time it is.
In a way, this may have actually worked in their favour though. Look at my logic here:
1) GNR takes 17 years to make a pile of steaming trash.
2) Can't sell copies as album is steaming trash.
3) Needs to find a scapegoat for "lost sales OMG OMG" as consumers refusing to buy steaming trash.
4) Find some sod who uploads album to hs website prior to sales.
5) PROFIT??
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You got to compare [$10k prize money] Vs [Value of exploit].
It's probably very easy to work out.
Well, the "You do what you want, while we do what we want" statement holds no water when it comes to this case, and here is why:
Scientists as you accurately point out, deal with the observable. Religion is not observable for the most part, and therefore off the radar for scientists. Religion however demands that you accept and believe notions because you are not supposed to understand them. Therefore what scientists say is fair game, as it may conflict with what religion has led us to believe.
That's why there is this cufuffle.
Hardcore raiders wear clothes while raiding?
I wonder what some of these have to do with psychology?
18.I am very seldom troubled by constipation
60.I do not read every editorial in the newspaper everyday
29.I am bothered by acid stomach several times a week
Like, really?
The lawyer's job is NOT to evaluate your best course of action that balances your wishes to keep the material with your wishes not to be sued. The lawyer will only do two things: (1) advise you to minimize your risks; (2) represent you if you keep the material up.
Well, yes, if you hire a cereal container for a lawyer, this will certainly be the case.
If you however hire a lawyer and ask for advice on why this request for taking it down is not valid, you might get a list of responses that accurately answers the question. Or then again, you might get what you just wrote. When speaking to a lawyer, make sure they know your mindframe in this. Do you want to keep it up? Do you want to fight to keep it up? What is your motivation for keeping it up as opposed to just taking it down?
Should it get to court, chances are that you will want these sort of arguments presented just as much as the legal side of the fence.
Note that in your list 2 and 3 require money/resources and your 4th option isn't really an option, it's more a disclaimer saying you haven't thought of everything.
You could aggregate your options to this:
1) Take it down.
2) Spend money to maybe not take it down
The poster just has to work out which of the choices he wants to play with.
Why do all of the Ask Slashdot questions boil down to: "I want free legal advice. Give me an opinion on x."
Because us nerds are scared of the law and getting out of pocket with fines/thrown into jail (We just won't do well in that environment) but at the same time we don't want to go paying someone for legal advice that is going to leave us out of pocket. It's such a conundrum!
possible _the_ most important thing for the continuation of the human race
Wow, and here I was thinking it would be something much simpler: Like us learning how to manage our own planet and resources properly.
Some things change. Some stay the same.
I can only watch as my jaw is hanging limply. I can't believe that anyone who got power to do something would abuse that power. Really. Truly. They promised they wouldn't when we brought it up before. They said they were only doing it for us.
*laughter*
Bork bork bork!
*more laughter*
Anti-abortionist protestors will frequently hold up graphic (bordering on pornographic) posters showing aborted fetii. This is done in full view of children.
Sorry, how can you possibly link an aborted fetus to pornography?
Either learn to make a proper counter argument, or stop using the "For the CHILDRENZ" argument. Both will help you look less like a fool here on slashdot.
Secondly, while I don't disagree that we wouldn't be worse off without the two sites you mentioned - I do STRONGLY disagree that sites that for example promote anti-abortion should be disallowed. (For the record I am pro-abortion). My point is if the law was passed to block child porn sites, okay, block child porn sites. Don't start using it to block anything you want on a secret list that you can't discuss.
Actually he waited until the studio broke the contract they had signed with him. They made derivative works (a fiction trilogy) based on that episode, which is in turn based on what he wrote.
Contract broken, he is entitled to compensation - whether he is an ass or not doesn't (or shouldn't) come into this.
Read the article. Studio violated his contract to gain from derivative works. He has been asking nicely for just over two years now.
Actually, all kidding aside, yeah he is (wrong). Amusing, possibly. But wrong, definately.
He did the work under contract. Just as the work I do under contract isn't mine, neither was his. He's pissed because back then, he agreed to such a setup (or more accurately the Writers Guild agreed, which he was a member of), but legally he's got about as much ground to stand on as someone living in New Orleans during Katrina.
Do you have the remotest understanding about this post? And why the hell is that post insightful? Mods, wake up!
The CONTRACT he worked under gave him a portion of derivative works based on his work.
Two years ago a derivative work (fiction trilogy) was published.
Harlan asks for what his contract said he would get.
Corporations refuse. Harlan sues for breach of contract.
Whether he is an ass or not doesn't matter. It's a contract that was signed by both parties and now one party doesn't want to stick to it.
Everything over 20 years old should be in the public domain, including my own works.
Are you really trying to say that if you (I do assume here you are over twenty years old) saw a picture of yourself as a baby suddenly the multi million dollar advertising face for say, a nappy brand you wouldn't be up in arms for a cut? Sorry mate, I call bullshit on that.
I do still find it simply amazing the number of people that can't spell that word. Nerds even, that grew up with games and the term. *boggle*
The fine article also states that Thailand's blocklist [wikileaks.org] has been leaked. I thought you'd want to read it for yourself in addition to the Denmark one.
Please god... please god... please god let this Streisand Effect.
filled with lots of women with Australian accents
You are saying that Pauline Hanson sounds sexy?
*swallows bile*
"Please explain!"
There is no contest in life for which the unprepared have the advantage.
What about the "Shocked look at a surprise birthday party" competition, or the "caught with your pants down at the photocopier" annual event or even the little known "we were going to tell you that you were adopted when you were older" sweeps?
Sony doesn't charge me for firmware upgrades for my PS3. Nintendo doesn't charge me for firmware upgrades for my Wii. BlackBerry and T-Mobile don't charge me for upgrades for my BlackBerry.
I think you are mistaking DO NOT for CAN NOT.
WHy does apple do this kind of crap? Is the touch less expensive or subsidized or ANYTHING that would justify having to pay vs their Iphone counterparts?
It's simple business: Do YOU want to explain to all the telecommunications companies why their customers CANNOT get a free firmware upgrade? Who apart from consumers is going to complain about having to pay for an iTouch firmware upgrade?
Of what? Cut and paste?
Don't laugh, in breaking news at seven, either IBM, Microsoft or one of the other "Big boys" will announce that they have a patent on "Copy and Paste" functionality from "way back" and the iPhone will lose that functionality pending a lawsuit.
You know, no phone I've ever owned has had cut-and-paste.
Have you ever worked with email and an internet browser and weren't able to copy and paste say, the URL between the two applications?
It's got nothing to do with cut and paste on a "phone".
To be fair, he did disrespect a major record label. Isn't that a corporate offense that requires jail time?
While this is slashdot, and I am aware that all comments around record labels and recording industry need to be taken with a shaker of salt, would we be reacting differently to this if someone had say, stolen a document with Steven Kings latest work and put it up on a website before it was published, or perhaps the latest Harry Potter hash?
Sure, they are musicians who have lived the golden life for the past twenty something years, and I am sure that they don't have to go through the menial tasks that make up most people's lives, but for goodness sake, at least let them put their wares on the marketplace BEFORE someone reviews it and says what a horrible trumped up waste of time it is.
In a way, this may have actually worked in their favour though. Look at my logic here:
1) GNR takes 17 years to make a pile of steaming trash.
2) Can't sell copies as album is steaming trash.
3) Needs to find a scapegoat for "lost sales OMG OMG" as consumers refusing to buy steaming trash.
4) Find some sod who uploads album to hs website prior to sales.
5) PROFIT??