Until you see *UNIX widely deployed as a "desktop" OS, all claims that UNIX is inherently more secure than Windows are nothing but untested theories.
Dammit, I was going to utterly avoid these threads, but here goes anyhow.
Your statement is totally incorrect. Any OS may in fact be much safer than the others without being as widely distributed. It's not fair to claim that only xx,xxx PC's with xyxyxyxyx OS were infect this year as compared to xx,xxx,xxx,xxx with Windows. It is CERTAINLY valid to say that y% of PC's with xyxyxyxyx OS were infected compared to xx% with Windows.
Windows does make itself a bigger target by having a larger user base, and it's also likely a bigger target as many of the users of Windows are much less likely to know what to do to secure their OS compared to someone who chose to install a Unix based OS for example.
So either start using your head as was intended, to think and to use logic, or happily pop it back in the sand like a good ostrich.
My version of Adhoc'ing means still getting things done. At the moment it's pretty balanced between game and RL. When I was leading raids with my guild in Burning Crusade content, my time online in RAIDS (not counting just farming/playing) was around 25-35 hours per week. Compared to that, I am just Adhoc'ing:)
As a wow player, I simply hate it when you make sensible well argued points like this.
Having said that, I stopped playing about 2 months prior to WOTLK. I had about a week of hard playing since then (4 days to level from 70-80) and have sort of been adhoc'ing since then. If I was indeed raiding with my guild still, I would be rather pissed about once again going through Naxx all over again and again. Last time we ran it we had 15 more peeps in there at a time but that aside, nothing much has changed. Sure, it's new to many players, but for those like me, the new expansion is very thin indeed.
This concept of dual spec? Yeah, great now I can play a Survival AND a Beast Master spec on my hunter. Woo. *cough* *crickets* Ohhhh... Thunderfury, I gotta go roll against a warrior!
Well, your drift is as subtle as a brick through the bedroom window when all the family is asleep. Just because we get it doesn't mean our laughs are that "uncomfortable, did someone just fart" sort of laughs.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with discriminating against people who are actively doing evil things.
*alarm bells*
So, person A with belief system A treats person B with belief system B badly because their views are opposed. In retaliation, person B discriminates person A because they are actively doing bad things.
Who is right?
Evil things are in the eye of the beholder. Judging other people based on your own beliefs is the EXACT train of thought that led to Nazi's that you describe in your post as doing evil.
There's nothing wrong with treating people poorly when they've consciously decided to join an organization that treats other groups of people poorly.
So, by thatm would you not also be in a group that treats others poorly and therefore deserves to be treated poorly? It really takes something special to be able to burn your own logic within ONE SENTENCE.
To summarize, an Eye for an Eye will lead to everyone going blind. Treat people how you would like to be treated. In fact, try to treat others better than you would like to be treated.
The mere existence of an aftermarket for game gold is clear indication of the desire among many (and perhaps most players) to avoid the entire gold-making portion of the game. Raiding is fun, grinding and auctioneering are not - for a significant percentage of players. The amount of daily effort required to grind out gold for basic raiding necessities certainly killed it for me.
(Emphasis mine)
Sorry, that's utter bollocks. I am in one of the high end guilds on my server (Proudmoore) and it is our raid expectation that everyone turn up with food/feasts as well as 1-2 flasks per run (these may not be actually used depending on the run). Now, add to that lets say 5 deaths for a cash safety margin. Yes, that's about 200g for an evening.
I would agree with you and say that it's too much. But it's not actually NEEDED to raid. During off nights, we often pull out alts and do raids again. There is no flasks involved, maybe a bunch of mid level food buffs at most. A run like this normally costs say 30-80g in repairs but makes easily more than that in boss gold. Yes, a complete clear will take longer, there will be more deaths (people normally get somewhat drunk these casual runs). If you take into account the cash from selling sharded Abyss Crystals, flogging off BOE items on the AH and generally a run will make 2500-5000g. (Rough estimate of 10 Abyss @ 100g, and remainder made up with 2-5 BOE items sold @ 500-1000g each). That's around 1-200g per player on TOP of normal boss/monster gold. That's still getting upgrades for people and that's still having a good time.
To summarize, either your raid requirements are indeed pricey (like ours are) and you are in a pretty hardcore raiding group, in which case, suck it up, you are likely leading progression on your server for a reason - and with that comes a certain gold price
OR
You are spending way too much unneeded (but helpful nonetheless) gold on consumables that are not actually required for a raid
OR
You are going along to a raid that is actually under strength, or under skilled or under organized. If you are wiping more than 10 times in a complete clear of an instance, find a new raid or stop pugging with noobs. The cash looted from bosses along should more than cover any mishaps/wipes during a full clear.
Also, gear on characters makes such a big difference. Raid having problems clearing Naxx? Tank in blues? Healers OOM on trash? Consider if the grou is actually READY for this raid instance. You don't get to 80 one day and main tank, main heal, top dps a raid the next day. Expect to run a good deal of heroics to get the gear you need. (These are also a fantastic source of income with items being DE'ed and occasional drops).
My wife recently started her first Alliance-side character, it's now level 23 and has well over 50 gold.
So she has been playing for around a day now and ha fifty gold?
Not bad, I recall when I was playing my first char in the very early days of vanilla wow. Getting to around a hundred gold (required for level 40 mount) was something that needed a good deal of penny pinching and most people got it a level or two after they could on their first characters.
I don't want to put in 10 unfun minutes when I log in.
Silly boy, if you got everything you wanted without having to work for it, you would not appreciate it and therefore would not be satisfied with what you have. Want a game where everyone can have the very very best without any real work? Go play D&D Online, and then find out why everyone stopped playing it when they got everything they wanted!
Please do not confuse ignored and forgotten with omitted and brushed over.
Facts that are beneficial to a case are highlighted and put on pedestals.
Facts that are unimportant to a case are ignored and forgotten.
Facts that are detrimental, highlight problems or disprove what you are saying are omitted and avoided.
Got nothing to do with being dumb on the exec's part. It's more on not asking the right people to investigate the technical or user aspects.
I was addicted to both caffeine and nicotine. My two flatmates who also smoked and me got together and decided to all quit smoking together at the same time. We went on some drug to help with the smoking (something along the lines of you could smoke, but you were not getting the "hit" from it and then you weened yourself off em) but I found that while I felt totally shit from the lack of smoking I also wasn't getting a good buzz from the coffee either - so I decided to cut it out at the same time. After two weeks of pretty much going through hell, I was starting not to overly crave a smoke all the waking hours while at the same time I got over the physical withdrawls of coffee. That's not to say that I didn't wake up in the morning wanting to have a coffee and a smoke, that was there for about a half year, but I didn't have the physical NEED to do it. It was the same after I opened my shop, my regular routine of open up, ensure everything was ready then have a smoke/break out the front for a moment was a hard want to break. I didn't need it, it just felt right to do at that time of my day. Anyhow, that's about four years ago now, I enjoy a few cups of black tea in the morning and early afternoon, but that's about it.
Oh, yeah, I feel a LOAD better than I did back then too.
The shakes quit after about 3 days. The headache after about 2 weeks. And somewhere about 2 years later I no longer felt permanently exhausted.
The exhaustion would not have been from caffeine addiction. That would have likely been your lifestyle (like your lack of sleep).
stay awake as long as I need to as long as I don't have high-sugar foods or have any alcohol
Alcohol is a depressant, meaning that it makes you more tired and more likely to go to sleep. If you want to stay up all night, having a few drinks is the last thing you want to do.
Considering how effective it was, why use a different technique?
In a recent security exercise, a group was asked to breach a company's IT defenses. They did so within a single day. It wasn't fancy sneaking past firewalls, it wasn't sending funny emails, it wasn't poisoned web pages. It was leaving a few USB keys in the carpark of a morning which people walking into the office picked up and then curiosity did the rest of the work.
It comes down to "do what works". This was simple, cost effective and no-one had thought of stopping this simple breach in company policy. I believe that recently the US Army had problems with USB keys sending around a worm as well didn't they?
Slashdot Mirror
I think you missed the "Lighthours" rather than "Lightyears" prefixing the 14-15 bit.
We can't push anything resembling a spacecraft anywhere NEAR the speed of light. Not even remotely close.
Equivalent of Google Maps (Without street view or road names)
http://www.google.com/mars/
Mars in Google Earth:
http://earth.google.com/mars/
Maybe not Second Life, but probably something that has made the WHOOOOSH sound as it passed overhead at some point.
Until you see *UNIX widely deployed as a "desktop" OS, all claims that UNIX is inherently more secure than Windows are nothing but untested theories.
Dammit, I was going to utterly avoid these threads, but here goes anyhow.
Your statement is totally incorrect. Any OS may in fact be much safer than the others without being as widely distributed. It's not fair to claim that only xx,xxx PC's with xyxyxyxyx OS were infect this year as compared to xx,xxx,xxx,xxx with Windows. It is CERTAINLY valid to say that y% of PC's with xyxyxyxyx OS were infected compared to xx% with Windows.
Windows does make itself a bigger target by having a larger user base, and it's also likely a bigger target as many of the users of Windows are much less likely to know what to do to secure their OS compared to someone who chose to install a Unix based OS for example.
So either start using your head as was intended, to think and to use logic, or happily pop it back in the sand like a good ostrich.
Hehe, that's cute that you call me a noob after opting out when flasks were introduced.
:)
I have been raiding since strathholme was a raidable instance and when UBRS was done with 15.
When you point your finger at someone, there are three fingers pointing back at you champ
My version of Adhoc'ing means still getting things done. At the moment it's pretty balanced between game and RL. When I was leading raids with my guild in Burning Crusade content, my time online in RAIDS (not counting just farming/playing) was around 25-35 hours per week. Compared to that, I am just Adhoc'ing :)
Oy! Mods! Red Dwarf Reference! Mod parent up please!
As a wow player, I simply hate it when you make sensible well argued points like this.
Having said that, I stopped playing about 2 months prior to WOTLK. I had about a week of hard playing since then (4 days to level from 70-80) and have sort of been adhoc'ing since then. If I was indeed raiding with my guild still, I would be rather pissed about once again going through Naxx all over again and again. Last time we ran it we had 15 more peeps in there at a time but that aside, nothing much has changed. Sure, it's new to many players, but for those like me, the new expansion is very thin indeed.
This concept of dual spec? Yeah, great now I can play a Survival AND a Beast Master spec on my hunter. Woo. *cough* *crickets* Ohhhh... Thunderfury, I gotta go roll against a warrior!
- Fluffybunny of Proudmoore.
Well, your drift is as subtle as a brick through the bedroom window when all the family is asleep. Just because we get it doesn't mean our laughs are that "uncomfortable, did someone just fart" sort of laughs.
Advanced technology in their ships also causes all photographs to come out blurry.
Clearly it's a technology also available to Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster.
Tell me then, which WWII games lets you play a German soldier assaulting the Jewish ghetto in Warsaw?
I believe it was circa late 1930's early 1940's, but it made an appearance in The Game Of Life!
There's absolutely nothing wrong with discriminating against people who are actively doing evil things.
*alarm bells*
So, person A with belief system A treats person B with belief system B badly because their views are opposed. In retaliation, person B discriminates person A because they are actively doing bad things.
Who is right?
Evil things are in the eye of the beholder. Judging other people based on your own beliefs is the EXACT train of thought that led to Nazi's that you describe in your post as doing evil.
There's nothing wrong with treating people poorly when they've consciously decided to join an organization that treats other groups of people poorly.
So, by thatm would you not also be in a group that treats others poorly and therefore deserves to be treated poorly? It really takes something special to be able to burn your own logic within ONE SENTENCE.
To summarize, an Eye for an Eye will lead to everyone going blind. Treat people how you would like to be treated. In fact, try to treat others better than you would like to be treated.
why did that hunter roll on that shaman gear.
WRONG Why did that silly shaman think that gear was his? That's the real question on everybody's lips!
Everyone knows that hunters need spell power for our pet heals!
The mere existence of an aftermarket for game gold is clear indication of the desire among many (and perhaps most players) to avoid the entire gold-making portion of the game. Raiding is fun, grinding and auctioneering are not - for a significant percentage of players. The amount of daily effort required to grind out gold for basic raiding necessities certainly killed it for me.
(Emphasis mine)
Sorry, that's utter bollocks. I am in one of the high end guilds on my server (Proudmoore) and it is our raid expectation that everyone turn up with food/feasts as well as 1-2 flasks per run (these may not be actually used depending on the run). Now, add to that lets say 5 deaths for a cash safety margin. Yes, that's about 200g for an evening.
I would agree with you and say that it's too much. But it's not actually NEEDED to raid. During off nights, we often pull out alts and do raids again. There is no flasks involved, maybe a bunch of mid level food buffs at most. A run like this normally costs say 30-80g in repairs but makes easily more than that in boss gold. Yes, a complete clear will take longer, there will be more deaths (people normally get somewhat drunk these casual runs). If you take into account the cash from selling sharded Abyss Crystals, flogging off BOE items on the AH and generally a run will make 2500-5000g. (Rough estimate of 10 Abyss @ 100g, and remainder made up with 2-5 BOE items sold @ 500-1000g each). That's around 1-200g per player on TOP of normal boss/monster gold. That's still getting upgrades for people and that's still having a good time.
To summarize, either your raid requirements are indeed pricey (like ours are) and you are in a pretty hardcore raiding group, in which case, suck it up, you are likely leading progression on your server for a reason - and with that comes a certain gold price
OR
You are spending way too much unneeded (but helpful nonetheless) gold on consumables that are not actually required for a raid
OR
You are going along to a raid that is actually under strength, or under skilled or under organized. If you are wiping more than 10 times in a complete clear of an instance, find a new raid or stop pugging with noobs. The cash looted from bosses along should more than cover any mishaps/wipes during a full clear.
Also, gear on characters makes such a big difference. Raid having problems clearing Naxx? Tank in blues? Healers OOM on trash? Consider if the grou is actually READY for this raid instance. You don't get to 80 one day and main tank, main heal, top dps a raid the next day. Expect to run a good deal of heroics to get the gear you need. (These are also a fantastic source of income with items being DE'ed and occasional drops).
My wife recently started her first Alliance-side character, it's now level 23 and has well over 50 gold.
So she has been playing for around a day now and ha fifty gold?
Not bad, I recall when I was playing my first char in the very early days of vanilla wow. Getting to around a hundred gold (required for level 40 mount) was something that needed a good deal of penny pinching and most people got it a level or two after they could on their first characters.
I don't want to put in 10 unfun minutes when I log in.
Silly boy, if you got everything you wanted without having to work for it, you would not appreciate it and therefore would not be satisfied with what you have. Want a game where everyone can have the very very best without any real work? Go play D&D Online, and then find out why everyone stopped playing it when they got everything they wanted!
Oh for mod points. That's the most insightful AC post I have read in a long long time.
is totally ignored or forgotten.
Please do not confuse ignored and forgotten with omitted and brushed over.
Facts that are beneficial to a case are highlighted and put on pedestals.
Facts that are unimportant to a case are ignored and forgotten.
Facts that are detrimental, highlight problems or disprove what you are saying are omitted and avoided.
Got nothing to do with being dumb on the exec's part. It's more on not asking the right people to investigate the technical or user aspects.
I was addicted to both caffeine and nicotine. My two flatmates who also smoked and me got together and decided to all quit smoking together at the same time. We went on some drug to help with the smoking (something along the lines of you could smoke, but you were not getting the "hit" from it and then you weened yourself off em) but I found that while I felt totally shit from the lack of smoking I also wasn't getting a good buzz from the coffee either - so I decided to cut it out at the same time. After two weeks of pretty much going through hell, I was starting not to overly crave a smoke all the waking hours while at the same time I got over the physical withdrawls of coffee. That's not to say that I didn't wake up in the morning wanting to have a coffee and a smoke, that was there for about a half year, but I didn't have the physical NEED to do it. It was the same after I opened my shop, my regular routine of open up, ensure everything was ready then have a smoke/break out the front for a moment was a hard want to break. I didn't need it, it just felt right to do at that time of my day. Anyhow, that's about four years ago now, I enjoy a few cups of black tea in the morning and early afternoon, but that's about it.
Oh, yeah, I feel a LOAD better than I did back then too.
Don't take legal advice from Slashdot. That'd be dumb.
Taking it would be okay. Asking for it would be the dumb part.
The shakes quit after about 3 days. The headache after about 2 weeks. And somewhere about 2 years later I no longer felt permanently exhausted.
The exhaustion would not have been from caffeine addiction. That would have likely been your lifestyle (like your lack of sleep).
stay awake as long as I need to as long as I don't have high-sugar foods or have any alcohol
Alcohol is a depressant, meaning that it makes you more tired and more likely to go to sleep. If you want to stay up all night, having a few drinks is the last thing you want to do.
Given you apparent constant games of chance, how do you go with pokies, blackjack and poker?
That being said, it is nice (as a US citizen) having an international jerk around, it makes the US not look so bad.
Don't kid yourself. A comb-over still looks stupid no matter how many people are wearing it.
Get what I am saying?
They were clearly too big to fail.
Considering how effective it was, why use a different technique?
In a recent security exercise, a group was asked to breach a company's IT defenses. They did so within a single day. It wasn't fancy sneaking past firewalls, it wasn't sending funny emails, it wasn't poisoned web pages. It was leaving a few USB keys in the carpark of a morning which people walking into the office picked up and then curiosity did the rest of the work.
It comes down to "do what works". This was simple, cost effective and no-one had thought of stopping this simple breach in company policy. I believe that recently the US Army had problems with USB keys sending around a worm as well didn't they?
I always download the patches from a mirror file anyhow. Being in Aus I use gamearena.com.au which is a Bigpond owned site. Comes down pretty quick.