Union Bank of California has decent online banking. Their stuff works fine with any browser.
Doesn't do you much good if you aren't in California, and Toronto ain't.
There is an increasing presence of "ActiveX" controls (I think that's what they are) on web pages -- they simply will not work with non-MS products.
It really is a shame to see the internet, paid for with taxes, much of it built for free in spare time, by fairly selfless people, as a open and standards compliant means of communication, get bastardized by the scum at microsoft.
But I completely agree that if you can find another bank that has employees with enough skill to make their web presence platform neutral, go for it.
Make sure you let the previous bank know why you left.
After the recent post about the amiga DE, a multiplatform SDK than uses a VM and platform independent machine code, I was a bit concerned that there would be no open alternative.
This is so cool. Code that fulfills the promise of write once/core everywhere.
calling unix a "Kernel and a shell" is fairly prehistoric, too. Had to stop reading at that point.
if unix was just a kernel and a shell, i'd agree.
but "OS" is sooooo subjective. A secretaries' OS is far different from a medical device engineers' OS. Using "OS" in the way the article does is as prehistoric as Unix itself.
AFAIK, there are no versions of Unix on the market (I'm not counting one-disk routers and their ilk) that don't ship with masses of utilties, tools, user interface stuff.
This article would have been semi-interesting about 8 years ago; just tedious horse-whacking drivel now.
This sounds like a java that actually works. 3 month porting time, everything compiles to virtual machine code, and is translated native on the fly, depending on architecture.
Too bad about the licensing/fee issues that others have posted. The SDK itself should be free, and freely downloaded, if they are going to do that. Or $100 and free from royalties. But not both.
So, I think this is a great idea, and a high quality implementation, but the licensing stuff looks stinky. Too bad. Maybe they will open source it in a year or so?
I think a virus will pop up, worse than ebola, that will have people spewing a variety of putrid liquids out of holes they never thought they had, all the while convulsing and suffering some severe delerium. Within hours, you make a loud death rattle and THWACK! your dead.
This message brought to you by the one of the most successful species that has ever lived, homo erectus, 6,000,000,000 strong and growing, the vast majority of whom couldn't conceive of an ecological balance if one fell off a shelf at wal mart and smacked them on the head.
...I was in the main one downtown a few years back, and the staff had taped cardboard hoods over several of the 'net access machines.
Mostly, they didn't want kids seeing the homeless people surfing pr0n, which, if I had to guess, was what those machines were used for about 3/4ths of the time -- I saw pr0n on the displays maybe twice, both times when the homeless person's time limit ran out and they got up to leave, with the hardcore scene still on the display.
The library near my house makes you sign up and get a password (free). They log what you do, and urge anyone seeing something inapproporiate to report same to the front desk immediately. No adult materials allowed, and no hoods on the machines.
It's a shame, but if they don't limit access to pr0n, some kid will see it and the city will get sued.
Maybe an alternative is to have a adult area, but that opens up a whole different can of worms. The city already has/had problems with hookers in the library -- an adult area would really exacerbate the situation.
When you think about it, the libraries were never meant to be porno libraries or hooker hangouts; really a place to quetly research things.
If the public can't police themselves, the government has to do it, I guess.
Mostly, my personal anger over the inability of the market and the gov't to do with the various computing monopolies, of the hardware and software ilk, has led me to drastically curtail my PC purchasing.
I was upgrading or buying a faster PC every several months, but that's over til I see:
a) Microsoft broken up, and wider use of Linux on the desktop;
b) Higher AMD penetration/dual CPU mobos based on "other than intel" technology.
So, I guess it's fair to say that if there's a major setback for m-soft (perhaps accompanied with a major breakthrough for Linux), as well as some dual t-bird mobos, I'd probably chunk down for a $1500 upgrade or so.
But I'm kinda in wait-and-see mode for now, saving my money and investing, etc in case of a industry crash.
Have bought a few hardware-type things -- Linux compatable frame grabber and am in the process of researching a camcorder. Also a electric piano. But all PC related purchases are on hold til the market gains some sanity.
Personally, I think the violent and sexual content of video games could be MUCH more intense, graphic, and sickening than it is now.
Game designers are being held back by the perception that kids might play their games, and the game company would get sued by parents.
With an adult rating on the game, it's the parent's responsibility, and the retailers, not to let kids get the product.
Then, game developers will turn up the violence and sex content (hopefully a horrifyingly grotesque and realistic mixture of the two) for a more thoroughly satisfying "first person shooter" experience.
I call on all developers to alternately watch "The Cell" and "Caligula" at leasdt ten times before desinging anymore boring games. Maybe that would get something throughly disgusting and enjoyable into the stagnant gaming industry.
After all, long before the moronic do-gooders of America had video games and TV to blame, people were hating, killing and raping each other. Who was to blame then? Newspapers? Books? Radio?
The amount of funding spread around to legislators, from rich, powerful IT firms, in return for passage of H1B workers is astounding. We can fully expect to see the numbers increase everytime the politicians are seeking to enlarge their war chests.
This is targeted immigration, implemented primarily to control the wage and status of US IT professionals. There is more than enough evidence to show that US high tech companies have padded their employment requirements and used those falsified statistics to support H1B. The H1B legislation is based on a huge lie.
Remember when H1B first came onto the scene? All the retraining, worker protections, studies on job loss that were guaranteed to happen? Well, most of that has been rolled back now, courtesy of the dishonorable David Dreier (R-CA) -- a recipient of HUGE donations from tech firms.
There were also dozens of ads for programmers in every major paper, as well as regular calls from headhunters. Well, all that's gone now, but the H1B just keeps getting increased. High Tech America is as hooked on H1B as your average smack addict, and congess just keeps feeding the monkey -- for a price.
One can't read about this and not be alarmed. My personal opinion is there should be limits on the number of people allowed in; once in, they become full citizens; and you can't discriminate against who gets in.
This way, we get some good programmers, auto mechanics, teachers, lawyers, politicians, airline pilots, doctors, lawyers -- a spread of people. And *they* don't have to worry about getting sent home.
Targeted immigration should be outlawed immediately -- there is more than enough evidence that is was based on falsified statistics, and is probably the most horrifying and clearly irrefutable example of just how corrupt the US Government is.
I think, when the truth really comes out in all this, there may be a class action lawsuit against the US on the behalf of American IT workers. Maybe even a huge settlement? Without H1B, I think I'd have made an extra 20-30 K for the last 4 years.
Let's see, $30K x 4 years x about 5 million programmers...that's about a $600 billion settlement or so. Congress, the clock is ticking. Stop passing laws based on lies while you can still get out cheap:-)
Our good buddy Bill Clinton was assigned a new intern named Sally. Being the polite gentleman he is, Bill went to visit Sally and ask her if she needed any questions answered. She said no, so Bill asked, "Have you seen the presidential clock yet?"
Sally replied, "I haven't even heard of the presidential clock." Bill then replied, "Well let's go to my office, so I can show it to you."
Sally was a little taken aback, and she stated, "With all the problems you've had lately, I don't think we should."
Then Bill said, "Ahh, it's just a clock, and I promise I won't try anything." Sally then agrees to go with him. Bill leads her to the Oval Orifice, shuts and locks the door behind them and then drops his pants to the floor.
Sally is flabbergasted and says, "Mr. President, that is the presidential cock, not the presidential clock."
Bill looks at her and says, "Sally, by my definition, if you put two hands and a face on it, it's a clock."
Hardly the oracle to discern the truth. They don't have a NYC bias or anything, ya think???
I bet Cubic has a few interesting tales about the folks in New York, as well.
I liked the part about NYC wanting "one modification" after the project has been planned -- and NYC is p-oed that Cubic has to cut shipment by 400 machines to stay under budget.
Modifications to fixed price contracts have to be paid for somehow. Should the company pay? Why?
Most contracts are written such that the buyer gets all specs, software, spares, etc. when the contract terminates.
So terminate it, NYC, get yourself another whipping boy. Force them to lowball you to get the contract, then ask for mods when they're tooling up for production.
Sheesh. This article is just typical NYC whining about their own frickin' mistakes. It would be comical if it wasn't so sad.
They sold a huge part of the military's telemetry bandwidth to the cell phone people "by accident".
They have classified nearly every low value area in the country as "earthquake" or "flood" zones, based on geography alone, rather than historical data.
Then, they sell the homes through government programs to the poor at low interest rates/no down payment. How can they afford to do that? They force you to buy earthquake or flood insurance as part of the loan.
Who provides such insurance? Guess! The Government. They decide your property is at risk, they make the loan requiring the insurance, and they provide the insurance. This type of insurance is $50 dollars or more a month, for a moderately priced home.
Bend over, America. Clintonian Democracy is about to "reinvent" government again. Not that the Shrub would be any better, or Algore.
This election sucks. Tweedle Dumb, and Tweedle Dumber. Tastes great/Less filling. An embarrassment to the planet.
I'm not so sure it's the cubicles. I've worked in open environments, private offices, shared offices and cubes.
My take is the work is difficult, and the personality/talent mix crucial, regardless of work environment.
Read the last paragraph a few times if you just skimmed over it. You need a few clowns, a few dummies, a few gurus, a few mid-level, a few morose vampires.
It's the mix -- if it gets skewed (where I work we are down to two gurus, a bunch of dummies and a couple mid-level (I'm a "mid-level").
No one really knows how to have fun and let go, everyone is morose right now. To have any fun, I have to go it alone with a few select others in cubicle rendevous.
When we try to have fun in meetings, it just doesn't work. People are trying too hard, whether management or dummy, and it gets weird. So the place seems morose.
The reality is, some of us are pretty happy on an individual level -- because of the cubicle rendevous. We tell little jokes to each other, have some chuckles, go back to work.
So, to sum up, as a group we have low morale and don't trust each other.
At the individual level, some of us are having fun and working hard. I think it's just that way sometimes.
The last place I worked, and at this place (before some key players left) most of us hung out after hours, etc. It just doesn't work that way right now.
Of course, the whole Microsoft thing, along with the H1B debacle, has cast a pall on careers in computing. That doesn't help, either.
Your boy, Eric Troan, referred to the idiocy of shipping a experimental compiler with RH 7.0 as "innovation". That's the only reason anyone needs.
My personal reason? RH 7.0 thrashed my machine -- absolutely refused to run XFree/DRI no matter what I did. At lest 6.2 worked after some massaging.
Debian 2.2 may be tougher to install, but it is obviously a higher quality product for the experienced user. They don't experiment with my machine the way you do.
Stop playing "race to market" with Suse, and start making quality releases...these stupid letters defending your low quality.0 releases just makes you look like a dumbass.
I strongly urge anyone at RedHat who will listen -- DROP YOUR DISTRO AND USE DEBIAN. Add helix-gnome, and stop putting your lame logo all over the screen, and actually test something before shipping.
This is not about Sun, Microsoft, closed or open source. It's about a shabby product being defended by someone who refuses to admit they hosed the release. That does sound like MSHAFT.
We expect/demand better from RHAT -- deal with it, dumbass.
not sure this is the same company, but someone in the silicon valley had a ultra low power MIPS running at 1GHZ in their lab some months ago, designed specifically for switches/routers.
i guess it's okay to dream about logging onto procewatch and seeing quad consumer grade cpu ATX mobos for this beast someday, even if the possibility is remote.
...for debian, linus, and the others who would rather release a late, quality product than just wrestle with the market.
RedHat 7.0 cost me hours of grief. It's an absolute piece of shit -- worse than 5.0, worse than 6.0, worse than the horrid 2.0-2.1 debacle.
This was released for one reason only -- to try and stem the losses to Suse in the exploding european market. The number one seller of PCs in europe ain't dell, compaq or HP, it's Fujitsu, and they are selling millions through grocery stores.
So they needed better internationalization. BFD. How many will stick with RH when it goes south on all their projects?
AFAIK, the latest Suse has a lot of bugs, too. Y'all need to stop beating on each other and start serving the consumer.
This is not to say I don't strongly appreciate RHs return to the community. Just go look at some of the Cynus and native java stuff they are funding -- that's great. But by continually releasing horrid product, you aren't helping anyone.
But this release should have been pinstripe for a bit longer. And how dare you use the word "Innovate" to defend this POS.
A new low for RHAT.
Wanna fix your issues? Make a helixcode gnome release based on Debian, switch over to it at V8, and douse every magazine and university in free/freely distributable cds.
look like a mildly improved version of those kits you can get at a electronics store for $20.
c'mon, you're supposed to be nerds! get out your frickin toolkit and start hackin' -- must be a bunch of old printers laying around at the swap meet. just add some hours wiring up the boards and away you go. hint : google search for "steve ciarcia circuit cellar"
But stay the hell away from fairus, which outlines (in the "Stein Report") the various election year payoffs the American Senators are getting from Sun, Oracle, Microsoft, GE and IBM.
This is a great demonstration of the dark side of capitalism (yes, there is one, all you silly Americans).
Many think capitalism means "the customer is king". They are right -- and RedHat's "customer" is their shareholders.
RedHat has an obligation to increase their market share. In this case, they needed to ship, as rapidly as possible, a standards compliant C++ compiler.
The fact that many peons^h^h^h^h^h end users were inconvenienced is of little consequence. As an American Corporation, they actually did the right thing, if you are a fan of the capitalist method.
Corporate investors demand maximal return on their money, and RedHat must place that goal ahead of all other considerations (product quality, database integrity, etc) while they attempt to gain market share and profits in excess of their competitors.
When last I used suse (5.x or so), it seemed strongly kde based. That is, like corel, all the admin stuff reminded me of WinDOS. Is this still true? Can someone point me to some screenshots of a kde environment using themes? Or is Suse doing something completely different from this? What's the skinny on the admin tools? The ones with Corel drove me nuts; they seemed very rigid.
I see in the press announcement it supports OpenGL accelerated boards. What does this mean? The word "Supports" has a variety of meanings under Linux; from:
"The underlying *support* is there, so it might work in 2-3 years"
...to...
"Download 50 Meg of code from three sites, do two cvs updates, apply several dozen patches, rebuild everything three times, go to the zoo and feed the penguins, and it might be working when you get back"
...to...
"It just works when you boot"
So, of the common cards supporting 3d Acceleration, what "percentage" are they supported, with "100%" being "It just works when you boot"?
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Union Bank of California has decent online banking. Their stuff works fine with any browser.
Doesn't do you much good if you aren't in California, and Toronto ain't.
There is an increasing presence of "ActiveX" controls (I think that's what they are) on web pages -- they simply will not work with non-MS products.
It really is a shame to see the internet, paid for with taxes, much of it built for free in spare time, by fairly selfless people, as a open and standards compliant means of communication, get bastardized by the scum at microsoft.
But I completely agree that if you can find another bank that has employees with enough skill to make their web presence platform neutral, go for it.
Make sure you let the previous bank know why you left.
Maybe they could inject some that stuff into the US presidential race and put an end to this nepotistic nonsense.
After the recent post about the amiga DE, a multiplatform SDK than uses a VM and platform independent machine code, I was a bit concerned that there would be no open alternative.
This is so cool. Code that fulfills the promise of write once/core everywhere.
calling unix a "Kernel and a shell" is fairly prehistoric, too. Had to stop reading at that point.
if unix was just a kernel and a shell, i'd agree.
but "OS" is sooooo subjective. A secretaries' OS is far different from a medical device engineers' OS. Using "OS" in the way the article does is as prehistoric as Unix itself.
AFAIK, there are no versions of Unix on the market (I'm not counting one-disk routers and their ilk) that don't ship with masses of utilties, tools, user interface stuff.
This article would have been semi-interesting about 8 years ago; just tedious horse-whacking drivel now.
engineering overview
This sounds like a java that actually works. 3 month porting time, everything compiles to virtual machine code, and is translated native on the fly, depending on architecture.
Too bad about the licensing/fee issues that others have posted. The SDK itself should be free, and freely downloaded, if they are going to do that. Or $100 and free from royalties. But not both.
So, I think this is a great idea, and a high quality implementation, but the licensing stuff looks stinky. Too bad. Maybe they will open source it in a year or so?
...a extremely fatal, fast spreading disease.
I think a virus will pop up, worse than ebola, that will have people spewing a variety of putrid liquids out of holes they never thought they had, all the while convulsing and suffering some severe delerium. Within hours, you make a loud death rattle and THWACK! your dead.
This message brought to you by the one of the most successful species that has ever lived, homo erectus, 6,000,000,000 strong and growing, the vast majority of whom couldn't conceive of an ecological balance if one fell off a shelf at wal mart and smacked them on the head.
...I was in the main one downtown a few years back, and the staff had taped cardboard hoods over several of the 'net access machines.
Mostly, they didn't want kids seeing the homeless people surfing pr0n, which, if I had to guess, was what those machines were used for about 3/4ths of the time -- I saw pr0n on the displays maybe twice, both times when the homeless person's time limit ran out and they got up to leave, with the hardcore scene still on the display.
The library near my house makes you sign up and get a password (free). They log what you do, and urge anyone seeing something inapproporiate to report same to the front desk immediately. No adult materials allowed, and no hoods on the machines.
It's a shame, but if they don't limit access to pr0n, some kid will see it and the city will get sued.
Maybe an alternative is to have a adult area, but that opens up a whole different can of worms. The city already has/had problems with hookers in the library -- an adult area would really exacerbate the situation.
When you think about it, the libraries were never meant to be porno libraries or hooker hangouts; really a place to quetly research things.
If the public can't police themselves, the government has to do it, I guess.
Mostly, my personal anger over the inability of the market and the gov't to do with the various computing monopolies, of the hardware and software ilk, has led me to drastically curtail my PC purchasing.
I was upgrading or buying a faster PC every several months, but that's over til I see:
a) Microsoft broken up, and wider use of Linux on the desktop;
b) Higher AMD penetration/dual CPU mobos based on "other than intel" technology.
So, I guess it's fair to say that if there's a major setback for m-soft (perhaps accompanied with a major breakthrough for Linux), as well as some dual t-bird mobos, I'd probably chunk down for a $1500 upgrade or so.
But I'm kinda in wait-and-see mode for now, saving my money and investing, etc in case of a industry crash.
Have bought a few hardware-type things -- Linux compatable frame grabber and am in the process of researching a camcorder. Also a electric piano. But all PC related purchases are on hold til the market gains some sanity.
Personally, I think the violent and sexual content of video games could be MUCH more intense, graphic, and sickening than it is now.
Game designers are being held back by the perception that kids might play their games, and the game company would get sued by parents.
With an adult rating on the game, it's the parent's responsibility, and the retailers, not to let kids get the product.
Then, game developers will turn up the violence and sex content (hopefully a horrifyingly grotesque and realistic mixture of the two) for a more thoroughly satisfying "first person shooter" experience.
I call on all developers to alternately watch "The Cell" and "Caligula" at leasdt ten times before desinging anymore boring games. Maybe that would get something throughly disgusting and enjoyable into the stagnant gaming industry.
After all, long before the moronic do-gooders of America had video games and TV to blame, people were hating, killing and raping each other. Who was to blame then? Newspapers? Books? Radio?
Every US Citizen should read the series of articles at fairus.org and their H1B focus area, as well as the excellent series of H1B news and links.
:-)
The amount of funding spread around to legislators, from rich, powerful IT firms, in return for passage of H1B workers is astounding. We can fully expect to see the numbers increase everytime the politicians are seeking to enlarge their war chests.
This is targeted immigration, implemented primarily to control the wage and status of US IT professionals. There is more than enough evidence to show that US high tech companies have padded their employment requirements and used those falsified statistics to support H1B. The H1B legislation is based on a huge lie.
Remember when H1B first came onto the scene? All the retraining, worker protections, studies on job loss that were guaranteed to happen? Well, most of that has been rolled back now, courtesy of the dishonorable David Dreier (R-CA) -- a recipient of HUGE donations from tech firms.
There were also dozens of ads for programmers in every major paper, as well as regular calls from headhunters. Well, all that's gone now, but the H1B just keeps getting increased. High Tech America is as hooked on H1B as your average smack addict, and congess just keeps feeding the monkey -- for a price.
One can't read about this and not be alarmed. My personal opinion is there should be limits on the number of people allowed in; once in, they become full citizens; and you can't discriminate against who gets in.
This way, we get some good programmers, auto mechanics, teachers, lawyers, politicians, airline pilots, doctors, lawyers -- a spread of people. And *they* don't have to worry about getting sent home.
Targeted immigration should be outlawed immediately -- there is more than enough evidence that is was based on falsified statistics, and is probably the most horrifying and clearly irrefutable example of just how corrupt the US Government is.
I think, when the truth really comes out in all this, there may be a class action lawsuit against the US on the behalf of American IT workers. Maybe even a huge settlement? Without H1B, I think I'd have made an extra 20-30 K for the last 4 years.
Let's see, $30K x 4 years x about 5 million programmers...that's about a $600 billion settlement or so. Congress, the clock is ticking. Stop passing laws based on lies while you can still get out cheap
Clinton needs to feed the pr0n monkey.
Our good buddy Bill Clinton was assigned a new intern named Sally. Being the polite gentleman he is, Bill went to visit Sally and ask her if she needed any questions answered. She said no, so Bill asked, "Have you seen the presidential clock yet?"
Sally replied, "I haven't even heard of the presidential clock." Bill then replied, "Well let's go to my office, so I can show it to you."
Sally was a little taken aback, and she stated, "With all the problems you've had lately, I don't think we should."
Then Bill said, "Ahh, it's just a clock, and I promise I won't try anything." Sally then agrees to go with him. Bill leads her to the Oval Orifice, shuts and locks the door behind them and then drops his pants to the floor.
Sally is flabbergasted and says, "Mr. President, that is the presidential cock, not the presidential clock."
Bill looks at her and says, "Sally, by my definition, if you put two hands and a face on it, it's a clock."
Hardly the oracle to discern the truth. They don't have a NYC bias or anything, ya think???
I bet Cubic has a few interesting tales about the folks in New York, as well.
I liked the part about NYC wanting "one modification" after the project has been planned -- and NYC is p-oed that Cubic has to cut shipment by 400 machines to stay under budget.
Modifications to fixed price contracts have to be paid for somehow. Should the company pay? Why?
Most contracts are written such that the buyer gets all specs, software, spares, etc. when the contract terminates.
So terminate it, NYC, get yourself another whipping boy. Force them to lowball you to get the contract, then ask for mods when they're tooling up for production.
Sheesh. This article is just typical NYC whining about their own frickin' mistakes. It would be comical if it wasn't so sad.
They sold a huge part of the military's telemetry bandwidth to the cell phone people "by accident".
They have classified nearly every low value area in the country as "earthquake" or "flood" zones, based on geography alone, rather than historical data.
Then, they sell the homes through government programs to the poor at low interest rates/no down payment. How can they afford to do that? They force you to buy earthquake or flood insurance as part of the loan.
Who provides such insurance? Guess! The Government. They decide your property is at risk, they make the loan requiring the insurance, and they provide the insurance. This type of insurance is $50 dollars or more a month, for a moderately priced home.
Bend over, America. Clintonian Democracy is about to "reinvent" government again. Not that the Shrub would be any better, or Algore.
This election sucks. Tweedle Dumb, and Tweedle Dumber. Tastes great/Less filling. An embarrassment to the planet.
Why did people kill each other before video games? Just curious.
I'm not so sure it's the cubicles. I've worked in open environments, private offices, shared offices and cubes.
My take is the work is difficult, and the personality/talent mix crucial, regardless of work environment.
Read the last paragraph a few times if you just skimmed over it. You need a few clowns, a few dummies, a few gurus, a few mid-level, a few morose vampires.
It's the mix -- if it gets skewed (where I work we are down to two gurus, a bunch of dummies and a couple mid-level (I'm a "mid-level").
No one really knows how to have fun and let go, everyone is morose right now. To have any fun, I have to go it alone with a few select others in cubicle rendevous.
When we try to have fun in meetings, it just doesn't work. People are trying too hard, whether management or dummy, and it gets weird. So the place seems morose.
The reality is, some of us are pretty happy on an individual level -- because of the cubicle rendevous. We tell little jokes to each other, have some chuckles, go back to work.
So, to sum up, as a group we have low morale and don't trust each other.
At the individual level, some of us are having fun and working hard. I think it's just that way sometimes.
The last place I worked, and at this place (before some key players left) most of us hung out after hours, etc. It just doesn't work that way right now.
Of course, the whole Microsoft thing, along with the H1B debacle, has cast a pall on careers in computing. That doesn't help, either.
Why did people compare you to Microsoft?
.0 releases just makes you look like a dumbass.
Your boy, Eric Troan, referred to the idiocy of shipping a experimental compiler with RH 7.0 as "innovation". That's the only reason anyone needs.
My personal reason? RH 7.0 thrashed my machine -- absolutely refused to run XFree/DRI no matter what I did. At lest 6.2 worked after some massaging.
Debian 2.2 may be tougher to install, but it is obviously a higher quality product for the experienced user. They don't experiment with my machine the way you do.
Stop playing "race to market" with Suse, and start making quality releases...these stupid letters defending your low quality
I strongly urge anyone at RedHat who will listen -- DROP YOUR DISTRO AND USE DEBIAN. Add helix-gnome, and stop putting your lame logo all over the screen, and actually test something before shipping.
This is not about Sun, Microsoft, closed or open source. It's about a shabby product being defended by someone who refuses to admit they hosed the release. That does sound like MSHAFT.
We expect/demand better from RHAT -- deal with it, dumbass.
The title says it all, baby.
I hope it's not RedHat 7.0 -- unless you're interested in watching dozens of RedHat instances die randomly.
not sure this is the same company, but someone in the silicon valley had a ultra low power MIPS running at 1GHZ in their lab some months ago, designed specifically for switches/routers.
i guess it's okay to dream about logging onto procewatch and seeing quad consumer grade cpu ATX mobos for this beast someday, even if the possibility is remote.
...for debian, linus, and the others who would rather release a late, quality product than just wrestle with the market.
RedHat 7.0 cost me hours of grief. It's an absolute piece of shit -- worse than 5.0, worse than 6.0, worse than the horrid 2.0-2.1 debacle.
This was released for one reason only -- to try and stem the losses to Suse in the exploding european market. The number one seller of PCs in europe ain't dell, compaq or HP, it's Fujitsu, and they are selling millions through grocery stores.
So they needed better internationalization. BFD. How many will stick with RH when it goes south on all their projects?
AFAIK, the latest Suse has a lot of bugs, too. Y'all need to stop beating on each other and start serving the consumer.
This is not to say I don't strongly appreciate RHs return to the community. Just go look at some of the Cynus and native java stuff they are funding -- that's great. But by continually releasing horrid product, you aren't helping anyone.
But this release should have been pinstripe for a bit longer. And how dare you use the word "Innovate" to defend this POS.
A new low for RHAT.
Wanna fix your issues? Make a helixcode gnome release based on Debian, switch over to it at V8, and douse every magazine and university in free/freely distributable cds.
But don't call it innovative.
...swarms of locusts driving those huge harvesting machines across the midwestern US...
look like a mildly improved version of those kits you can get at a electronics store for $20.
c'mon, you're supposed to be nerds! get out your frickin toolkit and start hackin' -- must be a bunch of old printers laying around at the swap meet. just add some hours wiring up the boards and away you go. hint : google search for "steve ciarcia circuit cellar"
those basic stamps are kinda cool, though.
Will it be Mozilla or 2.4?
...and come back on a H1B visa.
Then hang out at websites like usavisanow
But stay the hell away from fairus, which outlines (in the "Stein Report") the various election year payoffs the American Senators are getting from Sun, Oracle, Microsoft, GE and IBM.
This is a great demonstration of the dark side of capitalism (yes, there is one, all you silly Americans).
Many think capitalism means "the customer is king". They are right -- and RedHat's "customer" is their shareholders.
RedHat has an obligation to increase their market share. In this case, they needed to ship, as rapidly as possible, a standards compliant C++ compiler.
The fact that many peons^h^h^h^h^h end users were inconvenienced is of little consequence. As an American Corporation, they actually did the right thing, if you are a fan of the capitalist method.
Corporate investors demand maximal return on their money, and RedHat must place that goal ahead of all other considerations (product quality, database integrity, etc) while they attempt to gain market share and profits in excess of their competitors.
When last I used suse (5.x or so), it seemed strongly kde based. That is, like corel, all the admin stuff reminded me of WinDOS. Is this still true? Can someone point me to some screenshots of a kde environment using themes? Or is Suse doing something completely different from this? What's the skinny on the admin tools? The ones with Corel drove me nuts; they seemed very rigid.
I see in the press announcement it supports OpenGL accelerated boards. What does this mean? The word "Supports" has a variety of meanings under Linux; from:
"The underlying *support* is there, so it might work in 2-3 years"
...to...
"Download 50 Meg of code from three sites, do two cvs updates, apply several dozen patches, rebuild everything three times, go to the zoo and feed the penguins, and it might be working when you get back"
...to...
"It just works when you boot"
So, of the common cards supporting 3d Acceleration, what "percentage" are they supported, with "100%" being "It just works when you boot"?
So long, and thanks for all the fish.