You should submit yourself to the department of energy immediately.
Your bodies ability to create matter out of thin air and somehow ignore the second law of thermodynamics by burning more energy than you ingest is nothing short of amazing!
*Or* you're just making the same tired old excuses that those with some vice *always make*. You claim that your body is somehow special and refuses to burn the energy that you put in well guess what - that means you are going to have to eat 1/4 of what you do now for the rest of your life end of story (unless there's some medical "cure"). OR, you can be continue being fat and whinge about it on Slashdot for the rest of your (more than likely) short life...
You need to expend more energy than you ingest per day, no amount of moral indignation can change the laws of physics.
Otherwise if you already are ingesting less than you expend then you are a scientific marvel and for the good of human kind please get make yourself known to some scientists in the relevant field.
On a side note you're at +5 which means that you've got a pretty general support from the people on here, it's kind of amusing how the basic laws of physics and "personal responsibility" ideals that are usually worshiped with religious fervor around here are kicked to the curb as soon as it's useful to do so.
Glad to see the highly "logical" slashdot hordes - to borrow a clique, are just as prone to self delusion and excuses when it suits as the masses that are so often looked down upon here for doing exactly the same thing are.
Fifty years ago my parents went to town once a week on a Sunday and once every second week on a thursday to do the grocery shopping. If they were lucky once every three to six months they'd do something "social" and that usually meant visiting relatives and staying with them in their house or vice a versa or going to a dance.
70 years ago my grandparents would go a month or two without seeing anyone else except their neighbors - given that town was a three hour trip by horse and the nearest city two days...
The idea of "going out" and being some sort of social butterfly on the town for the vast majority of people is pretty new.
The same China that's just arrested an Australian citizen - the head of Rio Tintos (a massive Aussie mining company) Shanghai operations on "economic espionage" charges conveniently two weeks after Rio Tinto severely embarrassed China by abruptly walking away from their negotiations where the Chinese government via Chinalco was hoping to buy a large stake in the company.
You "wouldn't be suspicious" because you have no measure to understand the level of totalitarian control the Chinese government exerts.
The whole world does not operate like the USA, England, Australia or Germany - as Rio Tinto have just found out.
Twenty years ago it would have been understood that these kids were being sent to be "re-educated" and people in the west would have spat on the ground at the Chinese governments tyranny. Now people in the west, such as yourself, give them the benefit of the doubt.
The Chinese government hasn't changed in that time, but a hell of a lot of westerners attitudes towards their methods have.
I'm from Australia and you're (as is typical of road riders) woefully uninformed.
Where do you think the federal and state taxes to pay for roads come from? Rego is *at least* $7.5 billion a year, probably double that including commercial rates.
Fuel excise and GST is over $12.8 billion a year.
So are bike riders going to start coughing up $20 billion a year??
Rego is $600 dollars a year for an average family sedan here Australia and over $1000 for a truck.
There's 12.5 million registered cars in Australia which is roughly $7.5 billion for rego alone.
The fuel tax is an extra $12.8 billion, so that's $96 billion dollars a year car drivers fork out to pay for roads in a country of 22 million, not to mention fines, tolls and I'm not even counting commerical rego in that sum which is much higher and would probably put the number closer to $100billion.
So your response that rego "not being much at all" is a little bit ridiculous. Combined with an almost 50% fuel tax is *more* than enough to pay for our roads and maintenance.
So long as bike riders pay for the roads to be built and maintained.
Where I live roads are exclusively paid for by car registration and fuel tax, so bike riders are indeed freeloading.
If they wish to submit themselves to the registration process, including safety checks in order to help maintain the roads then all the better and they would earn the same right to be on the road as cars.
Unfortunately you are absolutely in the minority when it comes to road bike riders who are generally growth hormone taking, tantrum throwing, pink lycra wearing, Tour De France wannabees. Who have a chip on their shoulder the size of their over inflated egos and ridiculous helmets.
They're the problem, they're the high visibility riders who ride three abreast up hill at 20k/h with 100 cars behind them, who run red lights and cut across intersections giving the drivers they cutoff the finger. And they deserve every bit of derision and every beating they get, not just from drivers but also from ordinary decent bike riders like you for the *enourmous* amount of ill will they generate towards people who ride pushies.
Until you start paying rego, compulsary third party insurance and obeying the road rules you don't have any moral right to make use of the road.
Also one person holding up 10, 20 or 100 others while freeloading on the road that the others are paying for isn't exactly the way to make friends.
Or in other words, move the fuck over.
And I ask you this, would it bother you if I ride my unregistered dirt bike, horse or skateboard in the "bike lane" slowing you down? Goddamned right it would, you pricks are as aggressive as, it even shows in your attitude in internet postings.
Ultimately I don't care if you have to ride in the gutter because you want to do 20k in a 80k zone as long as you don't crash into me.
I ride three or four times a week and know my place when I hit the road, that is I'm living on borrowed time at everybody elses expense, patience and convenience riding my bike on a piece of government infrastructure that was not designed for nor payed for by push bike riders. When your in that position it's best to at least be a little coy about it, strangely there's a type of person who thinks that they're somehow entitled to freeload and intentionally piss everyone else off just because they feel like it.
Umm no. You are the person that this articles talks about. It's in your interest to over hype the risk and given it's your area you of course believe it's the most important thing in the world.
A single individual with a $500 gas axe from the local hardware store and a 4x4 could cut the power to any major city for weeks in a few hours simply by taking the bottoms out of remote high voltage power lines that feed most cities.
A group of individuals could cut power for months.
Or how about dumping a few thousand litres of arsenic in the local water supply? Or hell, just blowing up the water pipes?
That would be far worse than anything computer related.
Yet we don't hear about the deadly danger posed by the millions of kilometres of unguarded high voltage power lines across every country or the unguarded dams or anything else, yet in war these are the first targets for sabotage.
Who said anything about that except the power worshippers who try and paint the average man as "ignorant" and "kooks".
As far as I and most of the people I know are concerned the government works for the citizens and has no moral authority to demand that we submit ourselves for identification purely for *its* benefit.
Most don't put it like that but that's what it boils down to in the average persons mind - "Who the hell do they think they are?".
That's how it worked here in Aus when they tried it last time anyway.
Well I don't know about anyone else but I refuse to be told that I must submit myself to the sitting government so that they may provide me with identification to prove that I'm a citizen of MY country.
It's MY country, not theirs.
Any ID I have at this time I have because I choose to have it, for business that I choose to engage in.
Would you send someone to gaol for refusing to submit themselves to the government to get a government Identity Card?
If not then it's not compulsory.
If so, then you're an authoritarian and not worth speaking to.
Good grief, you people are your own worst enemies aren't you? Perhaps you should try and *at least* read the summary where both the article author AND the submitter went to great pains to make obvious that they're not in favour of banning anything.
"The solution is simple. You need to educate children about the difference between fiction and reality. It's really not that hard."
Way to come to THE SAME CONCLUSION AS THE AUTHOR.
Bloody hell talk about knee jerk reactionaries, did you have that saved in a text file for the next time someone mentioned violence in video games?
Congrats you're a fanatic...so much for the "rational intellectual" label that everyone around here likes to label themselves as....rational until it comes time to discussing their pet loves...violence in video games and child por..ahem..*Hentai*. Then it's pure foaming at the mouth emotional hubris and leaps of logic that would make the most ardent religious fanatic proud.
If you can't see the difference between Murder She Wrote and simulating bashing in a childs skull then video games don't stand a chance of remaining unregulated. You hurt more than hinder with such asinine "logic". I mean truly did you think that would convince *anyone* outside of this distorted echo chamber?
It's going well for the feedlots, multibillion dollar agri-corps and large farms.
For small operators it's a cost and severe burden.
And if we need anything it's less small old school farmers and more feedlot "meat product" as they call it being produced by the Mitsubishi Corporation./s
(Speaking as someone who comes from a long line of Australian farmers, has two dozen blood relatives on farms and knows pepole in every aspect of food production...you don't know much).
My uncle who had 500 head of free roaming grass fed Herefords on 2000 acres (Beef, Grain and Sheep) out in the Riverina sold all of his cattle rather than take on the extra burden of paperwork, large amount of labour and cost associated with complying with the NLIS.
He sold them to a feedlot that's part owned by the Mitsubishi Corporation.
He was not alone in his district.
So A) You're wrong they didn't *get over it* it's hurting people who aren't in a position to just sell a huge part of their operation at a loss. B) Feedlots loved the regulation as it's far easier to tag 500 head crammed into a few large sheds than 500 head wandering around 2000 acres. They know that and enjoy the benefit of not being burdened by that. C) Given that you work in one of the largest meatoworks in Australia WTF would you know about small farmers?
Umm talk about missing the point, try RTFA ey? Of course It's not a problem for the corporate feedlots...given that it was them who helped draft the legislation.
It's a big problem for the small farmer who has 100 head on 500 acres you know, the type that's fed humanity for the last 5000 years.
Big agri-corps whose disgusting operations caused BSE and 99.9% of the tainted "meat product" in the last decade helped to write legislation that will expand their share of the market at the expense of old school grass fed beef operators.
So yes it is a problem if you like eating clean, natural meat.
And if you think that sort of overhead isn't a problem for a small family operator you don't know shit about "Lore:Rural" and are nothing but a poser or corporate lick-spittle.
Though you've misrepresented yourself a number of times before here haven't you?
If you don't want to get sick eating beef then stop buying if from feedlots.
Running old school operators out of business thereby expanding the feedlot industry, which is the cause of 99.9% of the rotten meat and disease seems a little bit, well...stupid.
But what can you expect from hysterical "city folk".
I wonder if you would submit to having to report your businesses operations to the federal government *every week*?
The worst and most stupid thing about this is that BSE and 99.9% of the diseased meat COMES from feedlots.
So in order to fix the problem of diseased feedlot meat, people here want to enact legislation to run old school farmers off the land - ENSURING THAT 100% of their meat will come from feedlots.
"I am extremely suspicious of "just trust us" accounting, especially in cases of print media and unscrupulous newspapers. I feel no particular need to trust their honesty."
If you eat feedlot meat (which you do as it's everywhere) then you've got bigger things to worry about.
If you saw what comes out of feedlots and the internals of the meat raised in them you'd be fighting tooth and nail to protect the independant old school farmers who let their cows roam free.
Instead you vomit a hysterical THINK OF THE CHILDREN style response like a useful idiot, playing right into the massive corporations hands who helped draft this legislation, knowing what it will do.
RFID tags aren't going to affect feedlots one little bit. The meat will still be unfit for consumption. It will drive old school operations out of business.
It's easy to tag 500 animals in a warehouse.
Bit harder to tag 500 animals spread over 2000 acres.
Enjoy your growth hormone, antibiotic flooded, disease ridden "meat".
Small family farms have fed humanity safely for thousands of years.
Your logic is to force them out of business via difficult regulation to in order to regulate the feedlots and massive corporate food growing factories who *cause* 99.999% of the problems with food.
You wnat to ensure you can only get food from large agri-corps. The very people you rail against.
That's about the stupidest fucking thing I've ever read.
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You should submit yourself to the department of energy immediately.
Your bodies ability to create matter out of thin air and somehow ignore the second law of thermodynamics by burning more energy than you ingest is nothing short of amazing!
*Or* you're just making the same tired old excuses that those with some vice *always make*. You claim that your body is somehow special and refuses to burn the energy that you put in well guess what - that means you are going to have to eat 1/4 of what you do now for the rest of your life end of story (unless there's some medical "cure"). OR, you can be continue being fat and whinge about it on Slashdot for the rest of your (more than likely) short life...
You need to expend more energy than you ingest per day, no amount of moral indignation can change the laws of physics.
Otherwise if you already are ingesting less than you expend then you are a scientific marvel and for the good of human kind please get make yourself known to some scientists in the relevant field.
On a side note you're at +5 which means that you've got a pretty general support from the people on here, it's kind of amusing how the basic laws of physics and "personal responsibility" ideals that are usually worshiped with religious fervor around here are kicked to the curb as soon as it's useful to do so.
Glad to see the highly "logical" slashdot hordes - to borrow a clique, are just as prone to self delusion and excuses when it suits as the masses that are so often looked down upon here for doing exactly the same thing are.
Fifty years ago my parents went to town once a week on a Sunday and once every second week on a thursday to do the grocery shopping. If they were lucky once every three to six months they'd do something "social" and that usually meant visiting relatives and staying with them in their house or vice a versa or going to a dance.
70 years ago my grandparents would go a month or two without seeing anyone else except their neighbors - given that town was a three hour trip by horse and the nearest city two days...
The idea of "going out" and being some sort of social butterfly on the town for the vast majority of people is pretty new.
What exactly is a "useless person"?
People should learn their place as productive units in the larger social machine. Because after all, the group comes before the individual doesn't it.
We're talking about China here, not the US.
The same China that's just arrested an Australian citizen - the head of Rio Tintos (a massive Aussie mining company) Shanghai operations on "economic espionage" charges conveniently two weeks after Rio Tinto severely embarrassed China by abruptly walking away from their negotiations where the Chinese government via Chinalco was hoping to buy a large stake in the company.
You "wouldn't be suspicious" because you have no measure to understand the level of totalitarian control the Chinese government exerts.
The whole world does not operate like the USA, England, Australia or Germany - as Rio Tinto have just found out.
Twenty years ago it would have been understood that these kids were being sent to be "re-educated" and people in the west would have spat on the ground at the Chinese governments tyranny. Now people in the west, such as yourself, give them the benefit of the doubt.
The Chinese government hasn't changed in that time, but a hell of a lot of westerners attitudes towards their methods have.
I'm from Australia and you're (as is typical of road riders) woefully uninformed.
Where do you think the federal and state taxes to pay for roads come from? Rego is *at least* $7.5 billion a year, probably double that including commercial rates.
Fuel excise and GST is over $12.8 billion a year.
So are bike riders going to start coughing up $20 billion a year??
Oops, that should read $20 billion a year for rego and fuel tax...
Wow...Ok.
Rego is $600 dollars a year for an average family sedan here Australia and over $1000 for a truck.
There's 12.5 million registered cars in Australia which is roughly $7.5 billion for rego alone.
The fuel tax is an extra $12.8 billion, so that's $96 billion dollars a year car drivers fork out to pay for roads in a country of 22 million, not to mention fines, tolls and I'm not even counting commerical rego in that sum which is much higher and would probably put the number closer to $100billion.
So your response that rego "not being much at all" is a little bit ridiculous. Combined with an almost 50% fuel tax is *more* than enough to pay for our roads and maintenance.
So long as bike riders pay for the roads to be built and maintained.
Where I live roads are exclusively paid for by car registration and fuel tax, so bike riders are indeed freeloading.
If they wish to submit themselves to the registration process, including safety checks in order to help maintain the roads then all the better and they would earn the same right to be on the road as cars.
"But bicycles have just as much right to the road "
Why?
Does my unregisterable dirt bike have that right? What about a horse? Can I just start walking down the middle of a lane to my destination?
Bike riders don't pay for the roads, they don't pay for rego, nor do they have insurance.
So where do *push bikes* get this "right" from?
And I'd like this "right" to apply to motocross bikes, so where do I apply?
You sound like a reasonable person.
Unfortunately you are absolutely in the minority when it comes to road bike riders who are generally growth hormone taking, tantrum throwing, pink lycra wearing, Tour De France wannabees. Who have a chip on their shoulder the size of their over inflated egos and ridiculous helmets.
They're the problem, they're the high visibility riders who ride three abreast up hill at 20k/h with 100 cars behind them, who run red lights and cut across intersections giving the drivers they cutoff the finger. And they deserve every bit of derision and every beating they get, not just from drivers but also from ordinary decent bike riders like you for the *enourmous* amount of ill will they generate towards people who ride pushies.
And yes I ride.
Until you start paying rego, compulsary third party insurance and obeying the road rules you don't have any moral right to make use of the road.
Also one person holding up 10, 20 or 100 others while freeloading on the road that the others are paying for isn't exactly the way to make friends.
Or in other words, move the fuck over.
And I ask you this, would it bother you if I ride my unregistered dirt bike, horse or skateboard in the "bike lane" slowing you down? Goddamned right it would, you pricks are as aggressive as, it even shows in your attitude in internet postings.
Ultimately I don't care if you have to ride in the gutter because you want to do 20k in a 80k zone as long as you don't crash into me.
I ride three or four times a week and know my place when I hit the road, that is I'm living on borrowed time at everybody elses expense, patience and convenience riding my bike on a piece of government infrastructure that was not designed for nor payed for by push bike riders. When your in that position it's best to at least be a little coy about it, strangely there's a type of person who thinks that they're somehow entitled to freeload and intentionally piss everyone else off just because they feel like it.
Attention whores generally.
Umm no. You are the person that this articles talks about. It's in your interest to over hype the risk and given it's your area you of course believe it's the most important thing in the world.
A single individual with a $500 gas axe from the local hardware store and a 4x4 could cut the power to any major city for weeks in a few hours simply by taking the bottoms out of remote high voltage power lines that feed most cities.
A group of individuals could cut power for months.
Or how about dumping a few thousand litres of arsenic in the local water supply? Or hell, just blowing up the water pipes?
That would be far worse than anything computer related.
Yet we don't hear about the deadly danger posed by the millions of kilometres of unguarded high voltage power lines across every country or the unguarded dams or anything else, yet in war these are the first targets for sabotage.
What good are your computers without power?
A bit of perspective is in order.
Who said anything about that except the power worshippers who try and paint the average man as "ignorant" and "kooks".
As far as I and most of the people I know are concerned the government works for the citizens and has no moral authority to demand that we submit ourselves for identification purely for *its* benefit.
Most don't put it like that but that's what it boils down to in the average persons mind - "Who the hell do they think they are?".
That's how it worked here in Aus when they tried it last time anyway.
Well I don't know about anyone else but I refuse to be told that I must submit myself to the sitting government so that they may provide me with identification to prove that I'm a citizen of MY country.
It's MY country, not theirs.
Any ID I have at this time I have because I choose to have it, for business that I choose to engage in.
Would you send someone to gaol for refusing to submit themselves to the government to get a government Identity Card?
If not then it's not compulsory.
If so, then you're an authoritarian and not worth speaking to.
Good grief, you people are your own worst enemies aren't you? Perhaps you should try and *at least* read the summary where both the article author AND the submitter went to great pains to make obvious that they're not in favour of banning anything.
"The solution is simple. You need to educate children about the difference between fiction and reality. It's really not that hard."
Way to come to THE SAME CONCLUSION AS THE AUTHOR.
Bloody hell talk about knee jerk reactionaries, did you have that saved in a text file for the next time someone mentioned violence in video games?
Congrats you're a fanatic...so much for the "rational intellectual" label that everyone around here likes to label themselves as....rational until it comes time to discussing their pet loves...violence in video games and child por..ahem..*Hentai*. Then it's pure foaming at the mouth emotional hubris and leaps of logic that would make the most ardent religious fanatic proud.
If you can't see the difference between Murder She Wrote and simulating bashing in a childs skull then video games don't stand a chance of remaining unregulated. You hurt more than hinder with such asinine "logic". I mean truly did you think that would convince *anyone* outside of this distorted echo chamber?
It's going well for the feedlots, multibillion dollar agri-corps and large farms.
For small operators it's a cost and severe burden.
And if we need anything it's less small old school farmers and more feedlot "meat product" as they call it being produced by the Mitsubishi Corporation. /s
Don't talk about what you know nothing about.
(Speaking as someone who comes from a long line of Australian farmers, has two dozen blood relatives on farms and knows pepole in every aspect of food production...you don't know much).
My uncle who had 500 head of free roaming grass fed Herefords on 2000 acres (Beef, Grain and Sheep) out in the Riverina sold all of his cattle rather than take on the extra burden of paperwork, large amount of labour and cost associated with complying with the NLIS.
He sold them to a feedlot that's part owned by the Mitsubishi Corporation.
He was not alone in his district.
So
A) You're wrong they didn't *get over it* it's hurting people who aren't in a position to just sell a huge part of their operation at a loss.
B) Feedlots loved the regulation as it's far easier to tag 500 head crammed into a few large sheds than 500 head wandering around 2000 acres. They know that and enjoy the benefit of not being burdened by that.
C) Given that you work in one of the largest meatoworks in Australia WTF would you know about small farmers?
Enjoy your disease ridden, growth hormone, antibiotic flooded feedlot "meat product".
Umm talk about missing the point, try RTFA ey? Of course It's not a problem for the corporate feedlots...given that it was them who helped draft the legislation.
It's a big problem for the small farmer who has 100 head on 500 acres you know, the type that's fed humanity for the last 5000 years.
Big agri-corps whose disgusting operations caused BSE and 99.9% of the tainted "meat product" in the last decade helped to write legislation that will expand their share of the market at the expense of old school grass fed beef operators.
So yes it is a problem if you like eating clean, natural meat.
And if you think that sort of overhead isn't a problem for a small family operator you don't know shit about "Lore:Rural" and are nothing but a poser or corporate lick-spittle.
Though you've misrepresented yourself a number of times before here haven't you?
If you don't want to get sick eating beef then stop buying if from feedlots.
Running old school operators out of business thereby expanding the feedlot industry, which is the cause of 99.9% of the rotten meat and disease seems a little bit, well...stupid.
But what can you expect from hysterical "city folk".
I wonder if you would submit to having to report your businesses operations to the federal government *every week*?
The worst and most stupid thing about this is that BSE and 99.9% of the diseased meat COMES from feedlots.
So in order to fix the problem of diseased feedlot meat, people here want to enact legislation to run old school farmers off the land - ENSURING THAT 100% of their meat will come from feedlots.
Talk about self destructive.
"I am extremely suspicious of "just trust us" accounting, especially in cases of print media and unscrupulous newspapers. I feel no particular need to trust their honesty."
Perhaps your industry will be next.
If you eat feedlot meat (which you do as it's everywhere) then you've got bigger things to worry about.
If you saw what comes out of feedlots and the internals of the meat raised in them you'd be fighting tooth and nail to protect the independant old school farmers who let their cows roam free.
Instead you vomit a hysterical THINK OF THE CHILDREN style response like a useful idiot, playing right into the massive corporations hands who helped draft this legislation, knowing what it will do.
RFID tags aren't going to affect feedlots one little bit. The meat will still be unfit for consumption. It will drive old school operations out of business.
It's easy to tag 500 animals in a warehouse.
Bit harder to tag 500 animals spread over 2000 acres.
Enjoy your growth hormone, antibiotic flooded, disease ridden "meat".
I bet you don't upload "data" each week to the government in your business.
Small family farms have fed humanity safely for thousands of years.
Your logic is to force them out of business via difficult regulation to in order to regulate the feedlots and massive corporate food growing factories who *cause* 99.999% of the problems with food.
You wnat to ensure you can only get food from large agri-corps. The very people you rail against.
That's about the stupidest fucking thing I've ever read.
I think people need to understand the difference between an observation of general society and a statement of personal belief.
Obviously Red Flayer was making an observation. And he's largely correct.