Here's one of the rubs - Verizon stores offer the Kyocera QCP 6035 ( Black and white Palm Phone) for $399.99. On thier website, its $249.99. Sprint sells the same phone on thier plan for $100 ( give or take ). But you have to have the 'backroom' programming guide or a particular web link to move one phone to the other network. Oh and you have to take the stickers off too or they'll bitch... In fact, bringing them a phone is generally frowned upon; they want to sell you a new phone.
As noted by many posters - spam is almost always unreplyable; given this, would it be possible for the mailers of the world (sendmail, et all) to verify reply-to addresses when mail is recieved? This would pose the possibility that the reply-to would be the next poor soul on the mail list so...
The mailer would need to check the reverse-DNS of the incoming connection and the reply-to field to see if they went to the same ip address or domain at the very least, then verify the user name/mailbox sending the mail.
Obviously, this is an issue which would modify/bend RFC 821/822 so not something to be done lightly. However, as with some of the other tools, the mail could be silently foldered or deleted or the subject pre-pended for mail clients to filter on.
Being in Vermont, I am working on getting lawmakers here to expand the OPT-IN rules and have them apply to more then just the insurance and banking industries. Lets stop all the spam we can!
I have an idea. Now, most spam you can't reply to, therefore, if sendmail were to check incoming mail for replyability i.e. connect to reply to, check name, close connection if mail for reply is OK. Couldn't we trash some spam at the mail handler? Obviously we'd want this to be an option - some people need those spams. Crazy idea? Bad news bandwidth wise? Comments?
I work with a very large client here are some of the name groups they use. Blue Battleship Cyan Clue Green Family Feud Indio Jepordy Lavendar Life etc Our machines are a hodge podge: NaCl, Paprika, Manx, Lynx, Sphynx, gypsyrose, hal, odyssey, Poser, Dubdub, Rubba, Zither, Slither, Stony. Many of our machines are installed as pairs - either primary and backup or 2 seprate tasks thus they seem to have 'mates'. I would be terribly unhappy if we had to name our machines like one part of our clients do: PBNYMAIL01 *barf*
Is this true if you change the keys? - I think I understand how it would be less secure if the same key was used again. However, not being a crypto person, I'm just wondering if DES -> RSA 64bit -> DES wouldn't be stupidly hard to crack?
I understand everyone is upset over what the director of seti@home has said. I'm sure he's getting flamed from many sides and I'm suspecting is going to be appologizing to the volunteers shortly. I wonder if the wired people might want to link back to this thread to see the reaction from thier article. I'm disapointed I've been doing the same blocks as other people, but it does let me take it off one of the computers here without 'loosing' a block.:)
If your going to give away cycles - they're gone don't be upset they were 'wasted'. Nearly all blocks are meaningless anyway. I'm still looking for the needle, its up to everyone to decide what they want to do.
Maybe we'll start to see a shift here as Slashdot slowy starts to become a first tier news outlet. Then again, maybe not. (?)
I submit that slashdot.org has indeed become a major force for news and, I would rate it much higher then CNN. For, in its design, CNN is still a single voice - a broadcast medium. Thier web presence is simpily thier telex feed and some scripting. The power of slashdot is the many voices, without pay, not looking for advertizer dollars but helping the membership learn and stay current.
I have slashdot as my startup page - I go to cnn every now and then. I suspect slashdot to have 2-3x more updates on slow days and more then 20x more updates durring high news days. The new media has arrived - its slashdot!
Okay, so it does apear that lots and lots of 'bad boy/girl' crackers / whatever you want to call them can waste your paper, ink, time, trees, etc etc from the terribly un-technical article tells us. However, with the exception of Novell migrating printer definitions into NDS, how the hell are ROOT DNS servers going to survive the pummeling of trying to answer requests for addresses like printer.robshouse.slashdot.org? Alot of the trouble on the net is lack of power in the backbone DNS servers -- even though they are the fastest things you can get. Perhapps there should be a network-centric resolve.conf where there would be root domain servers for specific regional ISP's to share. As an admin, IPP sounds like it needs alot of work - unless its just a poor article from CNN.
Hum - they couldn't share the data with the new registry agents if they, say, couldn't keep the data straight, now could they? I would think, however, that corruption should cause call for greater diversity and redundancy (MORE competition) in this arena. So, I would suspect its an honest mistake. Good luck to people with this system.
Hi - poked around at the code on some pages, looks like all image files are being refrenced off the old/. server (images.slashdot.org). So I wonder if these tests are not a true test for the new machine. If the images are there, we can pull 'em down directly...
Being as they are a government agency, someone has already paid or will pay for it no matter what. The point is to flood them with keys so its grossly impracticle to keep the keys... If it costs me $20 to make a point about my or your privicy - as vague as that concept is at this point, I'm willing to do it. 'Cides this is the UK Government - I'll send them keys from the US and they can bill me. *chuckle*
I've been watching the RC5-64 project at www.distributed.net for quite a while. I wonder what the Feds would do if we ALL sent in every possible key that we might use for the key bank? Gee, I've got 68,719,476,736 keys I would like to register with you. I think it might, infact, get the point across that even if you had the keys, if people want something private they'd just use a diffrent key. This seems to be an inverse of the refund day - we can have a key submission day. I imagine we'd get more press.
Current whois record for linuxexpo.com: Registrant: IDG World Expo (LINUXEXPO2-DOM) 3 Speen St. Suite 302 Framingham, MA 01701 US Domain Name: LINUXEXPO.COM Administrative Contact: Strader, Charles (CS1290) cstrader@ONECHOICE.COM (617)437-7668 (FAX) (617)437-7697 Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Hostmaster Role Account (DS15-ORG) dns@DIGEX.NET 301.847.5000 Fax- 301.847.5215 Billing Contact: Benson, Juliana (JB21096) juliana_benson@IDG.COM 508-424-4832 Record last updated on 30-Sep-98. Database last updated on 3-Mar-99 13:47:37 EST. Domain servers in listed order: NS.DIGEX.NET 164.109.1.3 NS2.DIGEX.NET 164.109.10.23 ***** End of paste *** However, diffrent people own linuxexpo.net. IDG are poseing as linux people. Just another in the series of stealing-your-domain people. I'm sick of hearing about name thievs. ( I'm not at all complaining about the linux.com domain, I think that was handled very well! )
I certianly understand Rob's position as maintainer. I am a former 'electronic community' admin, there are some things which don't belong. If anyone has read any usenet archives compared to current news feeds, there USED to be a usefull medium there; now I just don't bother. I'm very happy/. has filters in the form of people -- I don't want./ to have every-other-article be an advertizement, which I think would happen if the posts were automaticly added.
I think that if your going to flame, be insulting you shouldn't be able to pose as an AC. If you have a serious gripe, put your damn nametag on and say what you want to say -- and be ready to deal with people with differing opinions replying to you. Sure seems like there would be alot less noise if AC's were more strictly filtered then regular people. I do think we need to see some kind of rules.
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Now hang on, wasn't Toshiba the company who issued the original refund?
Has anyone called Toshiba to raise this issue with the EULA / bag issue? I would like to think we're more reasonable then to boycot them over something that may be a misunderstanding. If they really are trying to keep from providing refunds this way, lets let them know we arn't happy. Although, personally, I won't buy Toshiba laptops due to technical reasons.
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Here's one of the rubs - Verizon stores offer the
Kyocera QCP 6035 ( Black and white Palm Phone) for $399.99. On thier website, its $249.99. Sprint sells the same phone on thier plan for $100 ( give or take ). But you have to have the 'backroom' programming guide or a particular web link to move one phone to the other network. Oh and you have to take the stickers off too or they'll bitch... In fact, bringing them a phone is generally frowned upon; they want to sell you a new phone.
As noted by many posters - spam is almost always unreplyable; given this, would it be possible for the mailers of the world (sendmail, et all) to verify reply-to addresses when mail is recieved? This would pose the possibility that the reply-to would be the next poor soul on the mail list so...
The mailer would need to check the reverse-DNS of the incoming connection and the reply-to field to see if they went to the same ip address or domain at the very least, then verify the user name/mailbox sending the mail.
Obviously, this is an issue which would modify/bend RFC 821/822 so not something to be done lightly. However, as with some of the other tools, the mail could be silently foldered or deleted or the subject pre-pended for mail clients to filter on.
Being in Vermont, I am working on getting lawmakers here to expand the OPT-IN rules and have them apply to more then just the insurance and banking industries. Lets stop all the spam we can!
The pay is lower then other places but then again, you don't have to commute 2-3 hours to be in the country away from your job. It rules. :)
I have an idea. Now, most spam you can't reply to, therefore, if sendmail were to check incoming mail for replyability i.e. connect to reply to, check name, close connection if mail for reply is OK. Couldn't we trash some spam at the mail handler? Obviously we'd want this to be an option - some people need those spams. Crazy idea? Bad news bandwidth wise? Comments?
I work with a very large client here are some of the name groups they use. Blue Battleship Cyan Clue Green Family Feud Indio Jepordy Lavendar Life etc Our machines are a hodge podge: NaCl, Paprika, Manx, Lynx, Sphynx, gypsyrose, hal, odyssey, Poser, Dubdub, Rubba, Zither, Slither, Stony. Many of our machines are installed as pairs - either primary and backup or 2 seprate tasks thus they seem to have 'mates'. I would be terribly unhappy if we had to name our machines like one part of our clients do: PBNYMAIL01 *barf*
Is this true if you change the keys? - I think I understand how it would be less secure if the same key was used again. However, not being a crypto person, I'm just wondering if DES -> RSA 64bit -> DES wouldn't be stupidly hard to crack?
I understand everyone is upset over what the director of seti@home has said. I'm sure he's getting flamed from many sides and I'm suspecting is going to be appologizing to the volunteers shortly. I wonder if the wired people might want to link back to this thread to see the reaction from thier article. I'm disapointed I've been doing the same blocks as other people, but it does let me take it off one of the computers here without 'loosing' a block. :)
If your going to give away cycles - they're gone don't be upset they were 'wasted'. Nearly all blocks are meaningless anyway. I'm still looking for the needle, its up to everyone to decide what they want to do.
Maybe we'll start to see a shift here as Slashdot slowy starts to become a first tier news outlet. Then again, maybe not. (?)
I submit that slashdot.org has indeed become a major force for news and, I would rate it much higher then CNN. For, in its design, CNN is still a single voice - a broadcast medium. Thier web presence is simpily thier telex feed and some scripting. The power of slashdot is the many voices, without pay, not looking for advertizer dollars but helping the membership learn and stay current.
I have slashdot as my startup page - I go to cnn every now and then. I suspect slashdot to have 2-3x more updates on slow days and more then 20x more updates durring high news days. The new media has arrived - its slashdot!
THANKS ROB, HEMOS, Et all!
Okay, so it does apear that lots and lots of 'bad boy/girl' crackers / whatever you want to call them can waste your paper, ink, time, trees, etc etc from the terribly un-technical article tells us. However, with the exception of Novell migrating printer definitions into NDS, how the hell are ROOT DNS servers going to survive the pummeling of trying to answer requests for addresses like printer.robshouse.slashdot.org? Alot of the trouble on the net is lack of power in the backbone DNS servers -- even though they are the fastest things you can get. Perhapps there should be a network-centric resolve.conf where there would be root domain servers for specific regional ISP's to share. As an admin, IPP sounds like it needs alot of work - unless its just a poor article from CNN.
Hum - they couldn't share the data with the new registry agents if they, say, couldn't keep the data straight, now could they? I would think, however, that corruption should cause call for greater diversity and redundancy (MORE competition) in this arena. So, I would suspect its an honest mistake. Good luck to people with this system.
Hi - poked around at the code on some pages, looks like all image files are being refrenced off the old /. server (images.slashdot.org). So I wonder if these tests are not a true test for the new machine. If the images are there, we can pull 'em down directly...
Being as they are a government agency, someone has already paid or will pay for it no matter what. The point is to flood them with keys so its grossly impracticle to keep the keys... If it costs me $20 to make a point about my or your privicy - as vague as that concept is at this point, I'm willing to do it. 'Cides this is the UK Government - I'll send them keys from the US and they can bill me. *chuckle*
I've been watching the RC5-64 project at www.distributed.net for quite a while. I wonder what the Feds would do if we ALL sent in every possible key that we might use for the key bank? Gee, I've got 68,719,476,736 keys I would like to register with you. I think it might, infact, get the point across that even if you had the keys, if people want something private they'd just use a diffrent key. This seems to be an inverse of the refund day - we can have a key submission day. I imagine we'd get more press.
Current whois record for linuxexpo.com: Registrant: IDG World Expo (LINUXEXPO2-DOM) 3 Speen St. Suite 302 Framingham, MA 01701 US Domain Name: LINUXEXPO.COM Administrative Contact: Strader, Charles (CS1290) cstrader@ONECHOICE.COM (617)437-7668 (FAX) (617)437-7697 Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Hostmaster Role Account (DS15-ORG) dns@DIGEX.NET 301.847.5000 Fax- 301.847.5215 Billing Contact: Benson, Juliana (JB21096) juliana_benson@IDG.COM 508-424-4832 Record last updated on 30-Sep-98. Database last updated on 3-Mar-99 13:47:37 EST. Domain servers in listed order: NS.DIGEX.NET 164.109.1.3 NS2.DIGEX.NET 164.109.10.23 ***** End of paste *** However, diffrent people own linuxexpo.net. IDG are poseing as linux people. Just another in the series of stealing-your-domain people. I'm sick of hearing about name thievs. ( I'm not at all complaining about the linux.com domain, I think that was handled very well! )
I certianly understand Rob's position as maintainer. I am a former 'electronic community' admin, there are some things which don't belong. If anyone has read any usenet archives compared to current news feeds, there USED to be a usefull medium there; now I just don't bother. I'm very happy /. has filters in the form of people -- I don't want ./ to have every-other-article be an advertizement, which I think would happen if the posts were automaticly added.
I think that if your going to flame, be insulting you shouldn't be able to pose as an AC. If you have a serious gripe, put your damn nametag on and say what you want to say -- and be ready to deal with people with differing opinions replying to you. Sure seems like there would be alot less noise if AC's were more strictly filtered then regular people. I do think we need to see some kind of rules.
rewt@sover.net
Now hang on, wasn't Toshiba the company who issued the original refund?
Has anyone called Toshiba to raise this issue with the EULA / bag issue? I would like to think we're more reasonable then to boycot them over something that may be a misunderstanding. If they really are trying to keep from providing refunds this way, lets let them know we arn't happy. Although, personally, I won't buy Toshiba laptops due to technical reasons.