Slashdot Mirror
Beat on the Server 1 More Time
The new box is stabilizing at 206.170.14.76.
Thanks to the several of you who've commented on various things.
Yeah, its a bit slow- but thats actually because I think we
were hitting our bandwidth cap. Anyway I've got a new kernel
and I've shut off the useless services, and I think we're
almost ready, but I need some of that Slashdot Effect
for once to make sure we're gonna go uninterupted tomorrow.
So go to 206.170.14.76 for
a couple minutes and post some comments or something. Lets
see how revved up this beast really is. (don't worry
about 404s- I haven't moved the 200 megs of old articles over
yet) Update: 03/09 01:31 by CT : Wow! You guys kicked more pages out of that thing
than I would have thought possible. It was doing about 3 times
the load of Slashdot. I think its stable. You can be gentle
again *grin*
I saw him get behind the wheel of a car with a bottle of Jack Daniel's in his hand.
This is scary. What if the slashdot effect becomes such a powerful force that we slashdot slashdot.org before we can even see an article about a server to slashdot? Sad.
The server is dead. Long live slashdot!
Other wise it'll give Linux a bad name...
just look at Debian. Actually works.
rpm gave *BOTH* of my favorite brothers
achy fingers.
It's still REALLY slow. Maybe you did some tweak on the server that's running slashdot now and forgot about it?
"log on"? Say what?
Please someone create /proxydot.yorcountry
I wonder if vhosts.net would do a slashdot.vhosts.net? check them out. I think they would. Someone email them at vhosts.net about it.
Your experience with this SSE (Super Slashdot Effect) may someone.
Put some graphics or other stuff that interests.
It's so 1998.
Agreed, I'd buy a yearly, or semi yearly cdrom, sign me up
Please, please, PLEASE switch the new machine over. The two servers are eating up a ton of bandwidth together.
Agreed, grab everyones favorite german release, or even stampede (or I am a slackware fan, but its 1998 too)
I think that might be better named the Meta Slashdot Effect
Don Ellis, a /. fan...hmm
this link will show the things you can find on slashdot. Some really need stuff here. Try it. /. it, Just do it.
Yea its dead/dieing
So when you gonna get an admin rob, you really need some experienced help
and the new data would have to sync, all these new servers constantly syncing would make all the slashdot mirrors go down anyway...so whats the point?
More bandwidth and many servers, in a round robin dns structure, with them swapping sync data (or sharing a nfs mount) over a seperate local 100-1G backbone would do good.
Damn those mixed signals! This is why I bcame a stalker (see poll results).
One question, this thing acts like an older style inn news server, more people posting, more articles and subdir, very slow. Now inn has went to massive spools to rectify that mistake and its fast.
I certainly hope you opted for an sql database or some such that does not make discrete files and not just a hell of a lot of singleton files in sub directories for each post. Please tell me you didn't, cause if you did you can keep updating hardware (better get a special cluster and modified apache just to spread the disk load, or start moving that data to an sql database).
Tell me, does it crawl when you log in local? If it does then you are in serious trouble, an its not bandwidth, its hdd bandwidth. A raid 5 might help, writes would be slow, but reads would fly (cause it can read off many disks at once).
Gee, when I looked, the second article had 1719 comments after it.
:-)
I'm deathly afraid to try to load that mother..
also if you did use sql, try running sql on a second server, connected on a fast ethernet on an internal ip network, to take load off the web server.
If that were the case, ftp.xx.kernel.org wouldn't have been a success. I'm all for .xx.domain mirrors.
Slashdot's images have always been pulled off of images.slashdot.org (well, not always.. For the last 6+ months at least though)
I'd say the server is quite well tested.
I think I speak for everyone here when I say I don't give a rat's ass about your hosting service. Posting a REAL message with the link to your service in your sig, I can understand... But for the love of God, stop posting advertising your ugly ass site.
Never mind mirrors (necessarily).
How about outputtting some meaningful
"Last-modified" and "Expires" headers
to give caching proxies and indeed browsers
a chance. That would ease the bandwidth problem
dramatically.
4 sc-mc-1-S-T1.servint.net (209.50.254.74) 11.854 ms 12.250 ms 11.796 ms
5 epsilon3.servint.net (209.50.252.2) 11.328 ms 11.026 ms 11.352 ms
6 servint-gw.mae-east.h6-0-45M.netaxs.net (207.106.2.9) 108.070 ms 312.469 ms 410.070 ms
7 netaxs-gw-1-100mb.above.net (207.106.2.70) 27.994 ms 29.708 ms 31.874 ms
8 core2-mae-east-ds3-2.sjc.above.net (207.126.96.69) 109.266 ms 113.634 ms 104.797 ms
9 pb-nap.pbis.net (198.32.128.23) 116.914 ms 106.551 ms 100.819 ms
10 ded1-fe12-0-0.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.83) 108.098 ms 116.364 ms 112.816 ms
11 209.232.138.214 (209.232.138.214) 98.899 ms 113.522 ms 104.398 ms
12 206.170.14.76 (206.170.14.76) 175.099 ms 168.155 ms 148.615 ms
Redhat doesn't make a very good server right out of the box, basically because of all the useless crap it runs. However once you get that stuff out of the way it does just as well as any of the other Linux's (How does one make Linux plural?). In fact, I think it was #1 in that benchmark of various Linux's vs. NT.
Couldn't the icons go on the new server too?
Why not just put the 2nd star wars trailer on
your new VA research box to stress-test it?
if /.'s new server can handle 3 times the current load on the system, then i think it can handle anything..
I just checked, and there were more than
/.ers have done quite a
5 thousand comments. Yikes.
I think that all the
good job. Ever think what would happen if we
used our power for evil instead of for good?
mrcl
hrmmm.....
Microsoft.com???
I hate that word. it's lini (as in cactuses)
Limp Bizkit
3 Dollar Bill Ya'll
Stuck
phsyco female blowin' up the phone line
you need to tighten that screw, it's been loose for a long time
I've been slammed with some bad luck
soon I'm gonna bring you doom with the buck, buck
and now you duck,duck goose, I'm lettin loose
with the thirty odd freestyle
labeled hostile by my profile
must be all the madness
you and all your tactics
jonesin for my cash
got to make them pockets super phat
hey I'm a humble man
kicking out the jams like a tramp
I'm gonna stick it like a stamp to this business
what's with all the business
I get payed to take the microphone and slay the stage
stay away from all the bros in my band
and all the fans and
all my friends is when the cash is coming in
or i'll be slammin them balls to the wall
with the ink on my flesh and the yes, yes y'all
no 9 to 5, I'll still survive
I keep my engine on that amp like a Chattanooga champ
that's all we need, another bad seed
planted on this earth motivated by greed
{chorus}
you wanna play that game bitch
you take a dash for my cash, it's your ass that I'm blasting
boy you wanna play that game bitch
you take a dash for my cash, it's your ass that I'm blasting
you're bad luck, you're so...stuck
stuck deep down in that hole again, stuck you got your brain on my green again
stuck, you're so, you're so, you're so stuck in your head you don't even know
all I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi
far from suicidal
still I get them tendencies
bringing back them memories
that I really miss when I reminisce
rocking back in the '80's live
my attitude to do or die
once I was a maggot, now I'm just super fly
bound for the boundaries
no limits G
phat ass rhymes driven by my destiny
your style's in my pocket
proclaimed to regain that essence
pressin cause i'm hostile labeled by my profile
in deed i am i am indeed hostile when it comes to greed
{chorus}
aw yeah, ain't nutin' like a greedy bitch
diggin', diggin', diggin'. diggin', diggin' so deep for that greed
yeah, yeah, all I know, all I know, yeah, that you must be fucked up in that
head, yeah
i got a little problem, just one question, beyotch
why, why you wanna be like that
why, why you gotta be like that
you wanna be like that
why, why you wanna be like that - 2x
why, why you gotta be like that
why, why you wanna be like that, why the fuck you wanna be like that
why, why you gotta be like that, why the fuck you wanna be like that
why, why, why, why, why you gotta be
why, why, why, you wanna be like that
why, why, why you gotta dig in my business you fucking whore
stuck on yourself, you are
you take a dash for my cash, it's your ass that I'm blasting
stuck on yourself, you whore
you take a dash for my cash, it's your ass that I'm blasting
you're bad luck, you're so...stuck
stuck deep down in that hole again, stuck you got your brain on my green again
stuck, you're so, you're so, you're so stuck in your head you don't even know
live on tape beyotch, don't fuck with us
Having an archive would be good for those of us who don't live in the states and have to pay all kinds of silly taxes, duty etc..
It would also be less hassel (though hard to make any revenue from).
I don't listen to the radio, I don't what the stupid tv, yeah, there's satellite in the house, yet I'm not paying for it and don't watch it.
I refuse to have a tv in the same room as my computers. Easier to think when you don't have to listen to some dumb-ass bastard's view of life.
The only music I don't listen to happens to be modern country, and rap. The only reason I don't listen to rap is they screw up the groovy beat with dumb ass lyrics, sung by chumps who have no voice and no idea of what life is all about.
Yeah.. ok... so I'm wasting bandwidth here...
Life is full of losers.
Personally, I'm a loser most of the time.
I don't wanna win unless I did my best.
Winning by doing a half assed job sucks and the lack of competition out there today,
is a real kill-joy.
I think a better example is Freshmeat. Look how miserable their attempt at mirroring has been.
Hehe, here's mine:
mercury:~# traceroute slashdot.org
traceroute to slashdot.org (206.170.14.75), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 triton.slashdot.org (206.170.14.75) 1.170 ms 0.493 ms 0.482 ms
mercury:~# ping -q -s 8 -c 20 slashdot.org
PING slashdot.org (206.170.14.75): 8 data bytes
--- slashdot.org ping statistics ---
20 packets transmitted, 20 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.435/0.702/2.713/0.547 ms
Linii... it's 2 i's, not one.
Cacti. Cactii. Igloo, Iglii.
linuxonline.org
couldn't get anything but the top banners. After a few reloads, nothing at all. Lemme try again......hmm, nope. 11:52 am here EST just contect contacting blah blah.
"shop smart:shop s-mart" ash
...comes to mind: "Hit me baby one more time"
hehe
looks good so far Rob
THUD. that didn't take long.
:)
--
Ben Kosse
Remember Ed Curry!
Anything over 20 ms is slow :)
triton comes in fine
traceroute to 206.170.14.75 (206.170.14.75), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 routerA.galaxy-net.net (207.90.164.254) 2.908 ms 4.211 ms 3.122 ms
2 166-90-118-209.geo.net (166.90.118.209) 7.528 ms 8.574 ms 8.078 ms
3 SF-core1-f0.geo.net (166.90.5.4) 7.462 ms 8.25 ms 9.52 ms
4 pb-nap.pbis.net (198.32.128.23) 10.199 ms 8.765 ms 8.484 ms
5 ded1-fe12-0-0.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.83) 8.962 ms 19.137 ms 9.579 ms
6 209.232.138.214 (209.232.138.214) 9.368 ms 9.791 ms 9.718 ms
7 triton.slashdot.org (206.170.14.75) 13.258 ms 20.616 ms 12.283 ms
Hey, I'd pay for a quarterly subscription of Slashdot on a Disc. Just think, if Slashdot is /.ed, we can still get our geek news. It'd also be a lot more convenient to search locally through a large bunch'o data. Put it in some delimited format and distribute it like the USPS distributes it's zipcode data.
Isn't it amazing how fast such a non-distro topic turned into a Debian vs. Redhat war?
Personally, if it's free and runs the Linux kernel, I'm on it! Who cares where files are put, and how packages are managed. If you're so fussy about RPM or somesuch nonsense, just use sources for everything.
Personally, I use Redhat, but only use it for the absolute *minimum* base install...everything beyond that I compile by hand.
Let's switch soon
Met Vriendelijke groet/Yours Sincerly
Stijn Jonker
Heh...Here's mine :)
1 adsl-216-100-248-254.dsl.pacbell.net (216.100.248.254) 23.935 ms 24.157 ms 31.861 ms
2 srvr1.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.1) 16.673 ms 14.648 ms 16.337 ms
3 ded1-fe11-1-0.snfc21.pbi.net (209.232.130.4) 15.328 ms 14.451 ms 16.207 ms
4 209.232.138.214 (209.232.138.214) 16.116 ms 15.985 ms 16.609 ms
5 triton.slashdot.org (206.170.14.75) 26.256 ms 16.207 ms 18.498 ms
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Are you offering to fund it?
about a dozen connects per min.
/. ;)
Maybe I should get a provider thats less then 25 hops away from
I you really want to test it, mirror the
star wars trailer on it for a few hours.
--T
_____________________ This Space for rent.
Is anyone any worse off than me?
:-)
Well, at least I have a cable modem. Nyah.
traceroute to triton.slashdot.org (206.170.14.75), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 bab60-1.optonline.net (167.206.60.1) 20.86 ms 17.42 ms 17.881 ms
2 10.8.80.1 (10.8.80.1) 20.351 ms 22.864 ms 23.796 ms
3 cv-bb-hicks-01-fe-3-0.cvnet.com (10.1.1.75) 27.097 ms 64.866 ms 103.594 ms
4 sl-gw11-pen-11-0-T3.sprintlink.net (144.228.164.5) 27.189 ms 37.833 ms 24.678 ms
5 sl-bb11-pen-2-2.sprintlink.net (144.232.5.81) 30.047 ms 25.654 ms 23.85 ms
6 sl-bb12-pen-10-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.5.158) 23.653 ms 26.769 ms 23.262 ms
7 sl-bb10-rly-5-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.8.153) 26.689 ms 27.701 ms 24.047 ms
8 sl-bb12-rly-9-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.7.214) 23.556 ms 28.628 ms 23.799 ms
9 sl-bb1-rly-4-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.0.34) 25.143 ms 28.477 ms 24.131 ms
10 beth1sr2-2-0.md.us.ibm.net (165.87.97.226) 30.838 ms 27.282 ms 30.787 ms
11 165.87.29.162 (165.87.29.162) 31.02 ms 29.798 ms 30.854 ms
12 sfra1br2-2-0-1.ca.us.ibm.net (165.87.230.102) 138.019 ms 120.268 ms 137.402 ms
13 165.87.13.42 (165.87.13.42) 126.1 ms 126.464 ms 126.738 ms
14 165.87.161.73 (165.87.161.73) 119.358 ms 120.494 ms 120.174 ms
15 ded1-fe12-0-0.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.83) 117.514 ms 120.036 ms 119.906 ms
16 209.232.138.214 (209.232.138.214) 126.501 ms 123.852 ms 124.8 ms
17 triton.slashdot.org (206.170.14.75) 133.482 ms 127.02 ms 145.201 ms
it's doing some pretty wierd thingson my side. anyway, keep up the great work!
icq 11041108 GB/AT$ d++$ s: a C++ UL+@ P+ L++ E W+ N+ o K w O M V PS+ PE+ Y+ PGP t++ 5 X+ R- tv- b+++ DI++ D G+ e+++ h
However once you get that stuff out of the way it does just as well as any of the other Linux's (How does one make Linux plural?).
The same way one makes 'box' plural, with an -en ending... Boxen, linuxen...
We could just use the same DNS, could we not? Like
Canada - candot.slashdot.org
Europe - swissdot.slashdot.org
Far East - japdot.slashdot.org
I think those three would spread the load fairly evenly, more or less. It gives us Canucks our own server so we don't have to bang on slashdot/cachedot, Europe has one, and the Far east has one. Those are pretty much the major population centres, we'd have two/three in NA (is cachedot it's own server?), one in Europe, and one in Japan.
Try and get the servers all on networks connected to somewhere like Teleglobe - it has a huge backbone system across the world, supports a hundred ISPs around the world, and seems pretty decent. Satelites and the whole bit. Hmmm... Fast to update. I propose Vancouver (my nearest NAP =]) or Toronto, London, and Miyazaki (did I spell that right?)..
All it would cost is the price to put servers in those three places - if you find an ISP that is willing to hook you up over a T1 for cheap, then there's your server (well, the server's your problem, but you know what I mean).
Anyway, it would be the ideal setup...
~Sentry21~
Is one big big piece of iron really the best way to demonstrate Linux scalability? Maybe the next step is to distribute the processing load, perhaps by putting the logic on ORBs on separate machines and making your (perl, php3, servlets, whatever) real thin.
RTFS. Uses a MySQL database of messages.
:( Sucks when you're doing work for a client who doesn't have and won't get a database yet expects database driven sites.
Unfortunately for my projects, I still hav eto use that old method of pretending there's a databse by making files.
mySQL, as I'm sure you know, is free. Your client won't pay that much? Looks like it's time to drum up new business! ;)
Right there with ya...
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There is no K5 cabal.
I am not the real rusty.
Seems like the new server is working *very* well! This is nice..., now my favorite web site is even faster. ;) Thanks /.!
Life was hell, then I discovered Linux...
The server looked good on 5 views & 3 replies... Definately faster than when I tested yesterday... Don't know why others might have had problems....
What some affectionately call the slashdot effect, others call a "denial of service attack". I still can't get through to the new server.
How long do you think it will take sites to pay Rob to -not- link to them?
- d
I tried to make a post, but I keep getting:
Error
The requested operation could not be performed by the proxy.
Document contains no data
Tried 6 times.
-- Don't Tase me, bro!
It's so 1898.
Dogma: Dead (mostly because your Karma ran it over)
It would be very hard to put mirrors of slashdot because its contents are permanently changing. They would have to be updated every 10 minutes and the html forms would still have to be linked to the central server. Sounds like a headache.
AFC.
Hi - poked around at the code on some pages, looks like all image files are being refrenced off the old /. server (images.slashdot.org). So I wonder if these tests are not a true test for the new machine. If the images are there, we can pull 'em down directly...
Slashdot CD...$5.99 at your local newsagent...sounds good...
Of course, here in Australia, it'd be $17.95 thanks to import charges and other crap =/
took a while for things to load (usually things load in an instant (+10k). otherwise okay.
I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going.
-- Word of the day: Percussive maintenance is the fine art of whacking the crap out of an electronic device to get it wo
but a little slow, like you said...
Can't Connect to the server, I keep getting a time out don't really know why
Just remember that if the world didn't suck we'd all fall off.
really.
Just tried to log on again and nothing for about 10 minutes.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" -- Albert Einstein
but then again I AM 17 hops away over some shoddy backbones
-- Life: Hate the Game... Love the cereal
Starting to Lag out..... 12:14 EST
-- Life: Hate the Game... Love the cereal
beat on the brat w/ a base bat, oh yeah, oh yeah!!
Couldn't help myself there.
I ate my tag line.
-=Ellis (D)25=-