Assuming there was not communication among the staff that knew it was just a stupid clock to those other people, I can see who it would meet a standard of 'reasonable suspicion' to justify an arrest.
Of course you do. But that's only because almost every person believes that THEIR opinion is a "reasonable" one.
I remember back in the day (I'm old) when a student would bring something distracting to school the teacher would confiscate it and the student collect it at the end of the day.
At worst, a student's parents would be called in.
But students were never arrested for bringing toys to school. That's just stupid.
I'd bet that the security people there, initially, were overruled by higher management.
I've seen too many instances where management skips basic security because "it's easier" or because their egos cannot stand having an IT nerd tell THEM what to do. And then there's plain nepotism.
Eventually, the people who know the risks move on to better companies. And then when the breach is discovered, management can blame it on whomever was the last to leave.
I'd say to RTFA but I'll save time and just post this quote from it:
Some of the largest organizations have an issue with an aging workforce that is more resistant to the impact of digital change on our businesses and in our lives.
See? It's about those old people with all their so called "experience" obstructing you from embracing the new model.
The year before was commonly dubbed âoethe year of the breachâ in IT circles, so we were not shocked to see that time spent on security management jumped from 24 percent in 2014 to 31 percent in 2015.
Wow! 24% of their time WAS spent on "security" and yet we read about breach after breach after breach. I'm sure that adding those additional 6 percentage points will make all the difference.
Or, if you are going to base your business model on doing something even borderline questionable... do the work yourself. Don't hire freelancers. Don't outsource development.
They've killed a lot more than 129 people (along with many other atrocities). There have been thousands dead already but I guess they don't count since they weren't in a first world country.
More like it is a bit more difficult to arrest someone who is part of an armed organization in a different country.
Why would they be using social media to communicate with each other when they're bivouacked together?
Not that the West really has the stomach to stop ISIS.
It's not that they do not have the stomach for it.
They see advantages in having a scary enemy to distract from other issues.
All we want to do is send planes over there to drop bombs and let the smaller countries from the area do the fighting on the ground.
Because once a bomb is used, a replacement has to be purchased. Which means a LOT of money flowing from taxes to vendors.
Getting rid of them is going to take putting troops over there but the people here don't want to deal with the casualties that would come with that.
That is what created them the last time.
At this point there is no clean/easy way to deal with the mess we created. And we aren't willing to spend the money/years helping them if our vendors do not see a cash ROI.
So at what point does the "smart cop" decide to stop them? After they've killed 129 people?
That makes a good movie plot but it doesn't work in real life.
The problem is that our "intelligence" agencies are more focused on electronics than on intelligence. It's easier. It's cheaper. It can cover a lot more "suspects". And it can be easily abused.
Stopping an attack makes you look good for one day.
Having a fearsome enemy that can attack any where, any time means you have funding for life.
Who knows? Destabilization happens fast, and the prelude is usually only obvious in hindsight.
Nice try at avoiding the point.
The issue isn't whether there will be another war in North America in 200 years. The issue is whether there will be a war in North America IN YOUR LIFETIME.
The prepper philosophy is to admit that nobody can answer your question and to take some degree of precaution as a hedge against the risk.
No. If that were the case then they wouldn't be known as "preppers". They'd be regular people with a few cases of food (MRE's or such) and water. Because they know that civil authority will be re-established within days or weeks after an emergency.
There's a big difference between preparing for the possibility (you don't seriously believe there will never again be war in North America, do you?),...
"Never" is a very long time.
Will there be a war next week? Probably not (99.999%). Next month? Next year? In the next 10 years? 20 years? 50 years? Have you died of old age or heart disease or such by that time?
Matthew 5:18 "For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."
Wow. The Bible can be self-contradictory. Who would have guessed?
The point is that people choose which passages they want to use (from all books in both Testaments) in their own, personal Bible that justifies whatever they already believe. And then they give different weights to the specific passages in that sub-selection.
Bacon is okay because blah blah blah but gay is bad because blah blah blah and adultery is bad but not as bad as gay because blah blah blah.
TL;DR - don't assume that what someone believes is in any way based upon the materials that they claim as instructive.
The corporations would try to game it by using job titles that don't fit the job. Like "junior apprentice programmer" requiring 20 years of experience.
So we need a way to correctly reflect either the job or the skills. We could base it upon the median salaries of the people with the same certifications living within 100 miles. But not everyone has certifications.
1. First you need to be audited by an external auditor that provides the certificate If you don't follow the rules then no certification, bribes don't work ether, and most of these guys are really thorough.
I had the joy of TrustWave auditing systems during a PCI check.
No. "Thorough" is not a word I would use in that situation. They followed a checklist and their involvement began and ended with that checklist.
Every 6 months a review of the firewall rules, updates to all the software such as cisco firmwares etc.
The "review" consisted of matching change requests with rules. As long as there was a request for each rule, they did not care what that rule did.
7. 2 factor authentication is mandatory (yubikey and a password), all access to the kit should also be ip restricted.
2 factor, yes. IP restricted? We passed even though there was access through the wireless network. FROM CHINA. Yes, there was an office in China and it had wireless access and you could connect to the PCI environment from there. Provided you had the 2 factor fob.
The paperwork is horrendous, but it's far from checking boxes,...
No. It is only checking boxes.
Compliance is not security.
Which is why you're seeing so many sites being cracked. The crackers aren't that good. The security is that bad.
How about a real story arc? DS9 was good until the end.
Also, how about real science? Not plot stupidity? Use a real map of the galaxy. Either the Klingons are right next door or they are not. How long does it take to go how far at what speed? Is "deep space" a week away by shuttlecraft?
Don't create a new tech to solve the crisis this week and then abandon it next week.
Hire some real writers to write for the show. NOT people who write scripts. The stories can be turned into scripts. But starting with scripts always gives the same feeling to the show. 1. Hi new guy! Oh noes it is bad! New guy died! Followed by: 2. Oh noes it is still bad! Recurring character is in danger! Followed by: 3. Well solved that problem. Everyone laughs/mourns new guy. Run credits. Repeat.
Have the characters go through arcs themselves. REAL ARCS. Not just moral lessons that will be contradicted later. Or stupid sitcom episodes.
There is a huge difference between "winning the lottery" and "basic income".
Some people would be happy to sit at home and do nothing except watch TV all day. So?
Other people would keep working in order to afford more options. Some would keep working because they enjoy the job they do. Some would keep working because they were not happy sitting at home watching TV all day.
The question is, is the group of people who are happy-not-working large enough to bankrupt the group of people who would keep working?
I don't understand the concept that if I have a loaf of bread, that I worked all day for, I should have thugs with guns come and steal 1/2 of it for the guy that didn't work.
It's called "civilization". Without taxes you would not have the support of the government. Without that support, there would not be anyone stopping other people from taking ALL your bread. And putting chains on you and forcing you to get more bread for them.
There are a few places like that in the world. No taxes at all. But you might want to look at the living conditions there before claiming that the "thugs" are taking some of your bread.
You could say security and hackers are worrisome for CIOs, but again, I donâ(TM)t think it's keeping them up at night. They understand that theyâ(TM)re probably being hacked. And if they havenâ(TM)t been yet, theyâ(TM)re going to be.
It's not the fault of the CIO if they get cracked and spill customer credit card info all over the Internet. Because... that's just something that happens.
Definitely not the fault of the CIO. It must be the fault of one of the techs. You just cannot find good techs. They keep complaining about how Marketing's project is "insecure" and "full of holes" with "excess privileges".
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Of course you do. But that's only because almost every person believes that THEIR opinion is a "reasonable" one.
I remember back in the day (I'm old) when a student would bring something distracting to school the teacher would confiscate it and the student collect it at the end of the day.
At worst, a student's parents would be called in.
But students were never arrested for bringing toys to school. That's just stupid.
I'd bet that the security people there, initially, were overruled by higher management.
I've seen too many instances where management skips basic security because "it's easier" or because their egos cannot stand having an IT nerd tell THEM what to do. And then there's plain nepotism.
Eventually, the people who know the risks move on to better companies. And then when the breach is discovered, management can blame it on whomever was the last to leave.
I'd say to RTFA but I'll save time and just post this quote from it:
See? It's about those old people with all their so called "experience" obstructing you from embracing the new model.
Wow! 24% of their time WAS spent on "security" and yet we read about breach after breach after breach. I'm sure that adding those additional 6 percentage points will make all the difference.
And we really, really mean it this time! Security all the way!
No. It won't be different. And they do NOT spend 1/3 of their time on security.
Most of them don't even know what security is. Or why you cannot buy it. It's just another item on a checklist for them.
WHY?!?
It's a GALAXY. Isn't there anyone with a story to tell that is NOT related to a handful of characters from the original movie?
The Adventures of Han Solo the third!
And in the private sector I've usually seen it accompanied by the boss saying "My friend/son/cousin knows this computer stuff. I'll get him to do it."
Or, if you are going to base your business model on doing something even borderline questionable ... do the work yourself. Don't hire freelancers. Don't outsource development.
Bullshit. The point is that they were spying on EVERYONE. And being lazy about it.
Checking SPECIFIC people whom you have a VALID REASON to suspect is different.
The amount of data they're collecting is impossible to process in any useful fashion UNTIL AFTER SOMETHING HAPPENS.
Unless you want to spy on your ex-girlfriend or the cute barista who isn't interested in you. Too many opportunities for abuse.
That was more about paying defense contractors while giving the citizens something to cheer for.
And by those standards, it was a huge success.
More like it is a bit more difficult to arrest someone who is part of an armed organization in a different country.
Why would they be using social media to communicate with each other when they're bivouacked together?
It's not that they do not have the stomach for it.
They see advantages in having a scary enemy to distract from other issues.
Because once a bomb is used, a replacement has to be purchased. Which means a LOT of money flowing from taxes to vendors.
That is what created them the last time.
At this point there is no clean/easy way to deal with the mess we created. And we aren't willing to spend the money/years helping them if our vendors do not see a cash ROI.
So at what point does the "smart cop" decide to stop them? After they've killed 129 people?
That makes a good movie plot but it doesn't work in real life.
The problem is that our "intelligence" agencies are more focused on electronics than on intelligence. It's easier. It's cheaper. It can cover a lot more "suspects". And it can be easily abused.
Stopping an attack makes you look good for one day.
Having a fearsome enemy that can attack any where, any time means you have funding for life.
Nice try at avoiding the point.
The issue isn't whether there will be another war in North America in 200 years. The issue is whether there will be a war in North America IN YOUR LIFETIME.
No. If that were the case then they wouldn't be known as "preppers". They'd be regular people with a few cases of food (MRE's or such) and water. Because they know that civil authority will be re-established within days or weeks after an emergency.
"Never" is a very long time.
Will there be a war next week? Probably not (99.999%).
Next month?
Next year?
In the next 10 years?
20 years?
50 years?
Have you died of old age or heart disease or such by that time?
100 years?
200 years?
500 years?
Matthew 5:18
"For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."
Wow. The Bible can be self-contradictory. Who would have guessed?
The point is that people choose which passages they want to use (from all books in both Testaments) in their own, personal Bible that justifies whatever they already believe. And then they give different weights to the specific passages in that sub-selection.
Bacon is okay because blah blah blah but gay is bad because blah blah blah and adultery is bad but not as bad as gay because blah blah blah.
TL;DR - don't assume that what someone believes is in any way based upon the materials that they claim as instructive.
I like that idea.
The corporations would try to game it by using job titles that don't fit the job. Like "junior apprentice programmer" requiring 20 years of experience.
So we need a way to correctly reflect either the job or the skills. We could base it upon the median salaries of the people with the same certifications living within 100 miles. But not everyone has certifications.
Any better ideas?
I had the joy of TrustWave auditing systems during a PCI check.
No. "Thorough" is not a word I would use in that situation. They followed a checklist and their involvement began and ended with that checklist.
The "review" consisted of matching change requests with rules. As long as there was a request for each rule, they did not care what that rule did.
2 factor, yes. IP restricted? We passed even though there was access through the wireless network. FROM CHINA. Yes, there was an office in China and it had wireless access and you could connect to the PCI environment from there. Provided you had the 2 factor fob.
No. It is only checking boxes.
Compliance is not security.
Which is why you're seeing so many sites being cracked. The crackers aren't that good. The security is that bad.
He was. And then he later renounced his KKK membership.
At the time he was in the KKK, he was NOT a "good liberal".
He may have been a Democrat but that is not the same as being a liberal.
You can read more about him on Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Breakfast_for_Children
They had problems later. But in the beginning they were doing a lot to help minorities.
How about a real story arc? DS9 was good until the end.
Also, how about real science? Not plot stupidity? Use a real map of the galaxy. Either the Klingons are right next door or they are not. How long does it take to go how far at what speed? Is "deep space" a week away by shuttlecraft?
Don't create a new tech to solve the crisis this week and then abandon it next week.
Hire some real writers to write for the show. NOT people who write scripts. The stories can be turned into scripts. But starting with scripts always gives the same feeling to the show.
1. Hi new guy! Oh noes it is bad! New guy died! Followed by:
2. Oh noes it is still bad! Recurring character is in danger! Followed by:
3. Well solved that problem. Everyone laughs/mourns new guy. Run credits. Repeat.
Have the characters go through arcs themselves. REAL ARCS. Not just moral lessons that will be contradicted later. Or stupid sitcom episodes.
And that is why I find it difficult to believe all the claims of "Chinese hackers" who are "attacking" sites.
Teenagers can crack a telecom. It isn't because the kids are that good. It's because so many organizations are that bad at basic security.
There is a huge difference between "winning the lottery" and "basic income".
Some people would be happy to sit at home and do nothing except watch TV all day. So?
Other people would keep working in order to afford more options.
Some would keep working because they enjoy the job they do.
Some would keep working because they were not happy sitting at home watching TV all day.
The question is, is the group of people who are happy-not-working large enough to bankrupt the group of people who would keep working?
It's called "civilization". Without taxes you would not have the support of the government. Without that support, there would not be anyone stopping other people from taking ALL your bread. And putting chains on you and forcing you to get more bread for them.
There are a few places like that in the world. No taxes at all. But you might want to look at the living conditions there before claiming that the "thugs" are taking some of your bread.
Aren't we already at that point? Even without a basic income?
If you have enough money, you can "buy" politicians to support any cause you want. Even restructuring the tax laws in your favour.
And it isn't because Anthem had crap security.
It is because the Chinese government was behind the attack.
Because the Chinese government wants ... to ... understand how healthcare works in the USofA. Yeah! That's it. Makes perfect sense.
It makes perfect sense. Because the Chinese government will be implementing the same model we have.
Oh, they won't? Their model will be more like one of the European nations'? Well it still wasn't because Anthem had crap security.
Bingo! Even from TFA:
It's not the fault of the CIO if they get cracked and spill customer credit card info all over the Internet. Because ... that's just something that happens.
Definitely not the fault of the CIO. It must be the fault of one of the techs. You just cannot find good techs. They keep complaining about how Marketing's project is "insecure" and "full of holes" with "excess privileges".