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ISIS's Hunt For a Bogus Superweapon

schnell writes: The New York Times Magazine has a fascinating story about ISIS efforts to get their hands on a mysterious and powerful superweapon called Red Mercury. The problem is that by consensus among scientific authorities, Red Mercury doesn't exist. And yet that hasn't stopped the legend of Red Mercury, touted by sources from Nazi conspiracy theorists to former Manhattan Project scientists, as having magical properties. Middle East weapons traders have even spun elaborate stories for its properties (ranging from thermonuclear explosive properties to sexual enhancement) and origins and sources (from Soviet weapons labs to Roman graveyards). What can account for the enduring myth of Red Mercury — is it rampant scientific illiteracy, the power of urban legend and shared myth, or something else?

330 comments

  1. It powers the reactor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Too much exposure tho and you'll turn into a smeg head.

    1. Re:It powers the reactor by smittyoneeach · · Score: 0

      Nonsense. Red Mercury is a new AWS web service that makes tests states with an immigrant flood to see just how red they go.

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    2. Re: It powers the reactor by ememisya · · Score: 2

      It must work with a cold fusion reactor.

    3. Re:It powers the reactor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Red mercury is from hidden caves in the Middle East...guarded by a secret society for over a thousand years.

      Its existence was first leaked out in the 1930's, but wasn't experimented with until the mid 1940's. And not widely experimented with until the year 2000, when it was used to forestall the y2k problem...but few people know this.

    4. Re:It powers the reactor by darkain · · Score: 1

      So THATS where the Year 2038 problem came from! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    5. Re: It powers the reactor by theCzechGuy · · Score: 1

      You forgot to open with "I'm not a racist, but...".

    6. Re: It powers the reactor by 3.5+stripes · · Score: 2

      No, I think he's pretty much unashamedly a racist.

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    7. Re: It powers the reactor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She should have said medieval knowledge and philosophies.

    8. Re:It powers the reactor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is true. Red Mercury is so strong because of its concentrated mass. Things around it are influenced by the warp in space and time. Because we attempted to use it for the Y2K problems without being aware of this, we're now dealing with the consequences - specifically, we've effectively just kicked the ball down the street. We now only have 28 years in which to solve this or we'll be forced to use the Red Mercury again.

      That may sound like a good idea, but Red Mercury loses particles with each use and those particles have a number of health effects - not necessarily bad ones, either. In some cases, they cause mutations that are beneficial to the host. I can't tell you what happened during the Y2K event because it's still considered TS:OUO and I'd go to jail for exposing it but I can give you a hint: Look at one author of "systemd" and when they appeared on the scene. We can not kick the UNIX time problem down the street in perpetuity. (Which is why there has been such a great push to 64 bit integer instruction sets but very few programs are actually even bothering to take advantage of this increased functionality.)

  2. Next up: by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Funny

    We tell them Andromeda Strain was a documentary.

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    1. Re:Next up: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's evil! I love it...

    2. Re: Next up: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that it's mutated to eat sand, being in the desert as it is.

    3. Re: Next up: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that it's mutated to eat sand.
      With Complementary Arabic Subtitles!

    4. Re:Next up: by Zaiff+Urgulbunger · · Score: 1

      We tell them Andromeda Strain was a documentary.

      Well, even if it isn't a documentary, I'm still drinking to stay safe!

  3. Don't you mean Allah? by r-diddly · · Score: 5, Funny

    The New York Times Magazine has a fascinating story about ISIS efforts to get their hands on a mysterious and powerful superweapon called [Allah]. The problem is that by consensus among scientific authorities, [Allah] doesn't exist. And yet that hasn't stopped the legend of [Allah], touted by sources from Nazi conspiracy theorists to former Manhattan Project scientists, as having magical properties. Middle East weapons traders have even spun elaborate stories for its properties (ranging from thermonuclear explosive properties to sexual enhancement) and origins and sources (from Soviet weapons labs to Roman graveyards). What can account for the enduring myth of [Allah] — is it rampant scientific illiteracy, the power of urban legend and shared myth, or something else?

    1. Re:Don't you mean Allah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Exactly.

    2. Re:Don't you mean Allah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More precisely, "the" god. Your god, you see, doesn't exist.

    3. Re:Don't you mean Allah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      And "exactly" in this context is street slang for whoosh

    4. Re:Don't you mean Allah? by Gr8Apes · · Score: 2

      More precisely, "the" god. Your god, you see, doesn't exist.

      "When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen Roberts

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    5. Re:Don't you mean Allah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Allah is just the Arabic word for God.

      ...who does not exist. That whooshing sound you just heard, on the other hand...

    6. Re:Don't you mean Allah? by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      If your post manages to get +5 Insightful, slashdot will be on the next targets list..

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    7. Re:Don't you mean Allah? by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Actually, there is a complete book that describes allah pretty well - written by an ex-Muslim

    8. Re:Don't you mean Allah? by meglon · · Score: 1

      Here's a website that describes Winnie the Pooh pretty well - http://www.lavasurfer.com/pooh...

      He's at least as real as God/Allah, and may have even more books written about him then they do. Because a lot of people believe a delusion doesn't make it less of a delusion, it's just means there more stupid gullible people.

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    9. Re:Don't you mean Allah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because a lot of people believe a delusion doesn't make it less of a delusion

      By the same token because 2 is not an odd number, doesn't mean that you can't eat pork on Wednesday ...

      Did you even bother looking at that anti-Allah site linked to in the post you are responding to before firing that off?

    10. Re:Don't you mean Allah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    11. Re:Don't you mean Allah? by meglon · · Score: 5, Informative

      Of course.. it's more of the same "us good, them bad" bullshit. The Christian "God" and the Islamic "Allah" are the same idea/entity/delusion. Both religions stem from Judaism, and both rely heavily on the Old Testament in a lot of their teaching.

      Judaism has a bunch of prophets, but Jesus isn't the messiah. Christianity (protestant) has elevated Jesus to the only one it really cares about, has him as not only the messiah but the living incarnation of God, but largely ignores the rest of the prophets (from the Old Testament). Islam places importance on all the Old Testament prophets, and includes Jesus in the list of prophets, and adds Mohamed to that list.

      The bigger difference is, in both Judaism and Islam, the more conservative the individual, the more strictly they adhere to their respective texts; BUT, the more conservative the Christians here in the US are, the less they actually LIVE in the manner he teaches them too.... so in reality they probably should be considered a completely different religion, as they don't follow the teachings of pretty much their only prophet/messiah (in the US, they tend to rely much more heavily on the Old Testament, and pretty much ignore the actual teachings of the New Testament... you know, where Jesus actually shows up).

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    12. Re: Don't you mean Allah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      unlike the self delusional permantenly lied to peope who believe they live in the land of the free and home of the brave.

    13. Re:Don't you mean Allah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you seriously insinuating that Pooh even potentially has more books written about him than "Allah?" I'm inclined to doubt your ability to think when you make posts such as this. Don't get me wrong, I'm a bit fond of Winnie the Pooh. However, there are far more works published about Allah than about Pooh. If what you'd suggested had been true, the world would probably be a better place. There are some Hindu lesser-gods that have more books about them than Winnie the Pooh - both in printed volumes and in number of individual works.

    14. Re:Don't you mean Allah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are very misinformed.

    15. Re:Don't you mean Allah? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      My god has a bigger dick than your god.

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    16. Re: Don't you mean Allah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are mohammedics Muslim doctors?

    17. Re:Don't you mean Allah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You lost me at 'The Christian "God"...

  4. Whoa hold your horses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Are you telling me a group of religious fundamentalists are scientifically illiterate??

    1. Re:Whoa hold your horses by swalve · · Score: 1

      Shocking, isn't it?

  5. Midichlorians... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Natch. The power to destroy intellectual property franchises - what else could the demon Amerika be more vulnerable to?

    1. Re:Midichlorians... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought it was the red matter that Spock used to destroy Romulus in the ST reboot?

    2. Re:Midichlorians... by Kiaser+Zohsay · · Score: 1

      Hail Hydra.

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  6. Scientific illiteracy for the win by Falconnan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The nature of a group like ISIS (though I hear they hate being called DAESH, which is a good reason to) leads them to be somewhat gullible on such matters. So this is not surprising. But part of me is oddly reassured by the fact the most feared terrorist organization in the world is on a massive snipe hunt.

    1. Re:Scientific illiteracy for the win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since I saw that someone else had mentioned it, I looked it up. Daheshism seems to be like a Muslim equivalent of Mormonism.

    2. Re:Scientific illiteracy for the win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    3. Re:Scientific illiteracy for the win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      But snipes are real. It's just that they are not in NA.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snipe

  7. Red Mercury confirmed: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This is typical /. propaganda. Red Mercury DOES exist.

    Recent scientific research has confirmed that it's so-called 'magical properties' are actually endowed by Allah.

    This is how I have been able to build one myself. I am offering it for sale to ISIS for $USD20 Billion and no one can stop me (hopefully).

    1. Re:Red Mercury confirmed: by binarylarry · · Score: 5, Funny

      Pff I have Red Mercury for sale also, finest quality.

      Only $19 Billion and I throw in 3 additional virgins and projection TV!

      Come on down to Crazy Achmed's WMD Emporium!

      No CIA or NSA please.

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    2. Re:Red Mercury confirmed: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      C'mon Down, but keep the kids off the merchandise.
      Those little piggies are greasy.

    3. Re:Red Mercury confirmed: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a red Mercury for sale. I wonder what they'll offer me for that? It would make a nice contrast to all the black Toyotas that have.

    4. Re:Red Mercury confirmed: by swalve · · Score: 1

      Make sure it's front projection or the deal doesn't go through.

    5. Re:Red Mercury confirmed: by lord_mike · · Score: 2

      Better be careful.... you remember what happened to Doc Brown in Back to the Future when he sold the Libyans a bogus nuke...

    6. Re:Red Mercury confirmed: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bah, Crazy Achmed's Prices are crazy, crazy high!

      Here at Jihadist Joe's we treat you right. Highest quality Red Mercury, free sample for 30 days or your money back, and only 17 billion for the full thing! Act now and you get four, YES FOUR virgins before you even die for Allah!

      Skip Achmed's, and bring your business to Jihadist Joe's Black Market Bonanaza today!

      CIA weapons sellers welcome, contingent on repeat business.

    7. Re:Red Mercury confirmed: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had a red Mercury Topaz. With the crappy 1.9L engine. It sucked.

    8. Re:Red Mercury confirmed: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No CIA or NSA please.

      These WMDs are provided for demonstration purposes only and must be deleted within 24 hours. If you are a member of a three letter agency, you must disconnect from this server now, because my moron friend told me I could do illegal shit and everything will be okay because my shitty MOTD is clearly legally binding.

      Ahem, sorry - first thing I thought of was crappy disclaimers on warez/emulation sites, then I got all nostalgic about how daft they were.

    9. Re:Red Mercury confirmed: by binarylarry · · Score: 1

      Jihadist Joe is an apostate, christian-loving daesh!

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    10. Re:Red Mercury confirmed: by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 1

      He sent someone back in time, who then warned his past self to wear a ballistic vest, and then went to travel to the future, and the past?

      Sounds pretty cool to me.

    11. Re:Red Mercury confirmed: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have mercury redstone to sell. This is the raw material from which you can refine red mercury.

    12. Re:Red Mercury confirmed: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better be careful.... you remember what happened to Doc Brown in Back to the Future when he sold the Libyans a bogus nuke...

      That is what red mercury is.. a "Shoddy bomb casing filled with used pinball machine parts."

      I wish there was a deleted scene on the DVD showing how the Libyans discovered they had used pinball machine parts and not a working nuke. I bet that would have been funny..

    13. Re:Red Mercury confirmed: by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      fucking splitter!

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  8. Only Red Mercury? by Pollux · · Score: 1

    I mean, if they're really this gullible, why stop there? If we want to talk about fictional destructive fluids of a crimson color, why not try to sell them red matter? What faster way to your 72 virgins than destroying an entire planet? Or don't they have a way yet to drill to the Earth's core?

    1. Re:Only Red Mercury? by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      72 virgins

      I thought it was 72 torpedoes

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    2. Re:Only Red Mercury? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      72 virgins? So... the afterlife they are hoping for is just one huge LAN party?

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    3. Re:Only Red Mercury? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, they are virgins all right.

      But noone said anything about their gender...

  9. Well shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Don't spoil the honeypot, assholes.

  10. Next Indiana Jones movie by somenickname · · Score: 1

    This seems like a great plot for the next Indiana Jones movie. Maybe they could even have a Spock cameo.

    1. Re:Next Indiana Jones movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Little tough when Leonard Nimoy is dead

    2. Re:Next Indiana Jones movie by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      So? The Indiana Jones franchise was also dead already, didn't stop them.

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  11. In thermometers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some thermometers have red mercury.

    1. Re:In thermometers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some thermometers have red mercury.

      Right, they haven't used the silver-colored mercury that we used to play with after the thermometer broke, for at least 40-50 years.

    2. Re:In thermometers by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Right, they haven't used the silver-colored mercury that we used to play with after the thermometer broke, for at least 40-50 years.

      That silver mercury was a blast to play with. It tasted like shit, but man it was a fun toy.

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    3. Re:In thermometers by swalve · · Score: 1

      I was always partial to the gold colored Mercury, but that's just me.

    4. Re: In thermometers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because you put a liquid into a thermometer does not make that liquid Mercury. In this case the red liquid is alcohol dyed red to be visible.

    5. Re:In thermometers by meglon · · Score: 2

      Some thermometers have red mercury.

      No. Some thermometers have alcohol dyed red. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    6. Re:In thermometers by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      Well now, this explains a lot. Did you try lead based paint chips? Some of those were tasty.

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  12. red mercury by turkeydance · · Score: 2

    movie title...band name...porn id....too many possibilities.

    1. Re:red mercury by fustakrakich · · Score: 1
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    2. Re:red mercury by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. Also at the heart of the movie plot for Red 2.

    3. Re:red mercury by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 5, Interesting

      ...Slashdot ID...

    4. Re:red mercury by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The superweapon is a guy behind a computer reading Slashdot? Wow. Didn't see that coming.

    5. Re:red mercury by coofercat · · Score: 1

      All on Blu Ray ;-)

    6. Re:red mercury by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Red Mercury? I don't think you exist.

    7. Re:red mercury by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      I think I do. At least, I'm pretty sure I ++NO CARRIER

  13. Maybe... by sstern · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe they're thinking of Ice-9?

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    1. Re:Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, solidifying the world's water supply would pretty much fuck shit up.

    2. Re:Maybe... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I think more likely it's a dis-information campaign run by ISIS to throw off security services and keep the media guessing. It might be a code word for something else, it might just be nonsense. Don't underestimate those guys though, just because they believe of crazy stuff doesn't make them stupid enough to fall for this kind of thing. Until the 20th century most western scientists believed in God too, and were at pains to make their ideas fit into established theology.

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    3. Re:Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would solve that pesky little global warming problem.

  14. Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What can account for the enduring myth of Red Mercury — is it rampant scientific illiteracy, the power of urban legend and shared myth, or something else?

    Yes.

    1. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What can account for the enduring myth of Red Mercury — is it rampant scientific illiteracy, the power of urban legend and shared myth, or something else?

      Yes.

      What can account for the enduring myth of Red Mercury — is it rampant scientific illiteracy, the power of urban legend and shared myth, or something else?

      Yes.

      isu

  15. Quick, someone sell them a thermometer for $500M by JoeyRox · · Score: 1

    Has mercury and is colored Red. Pleasure doing business with you Mr. Armeen.

  16. Oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In that case, regular mercury can be dyed red. Now you just gotta get them to drink a lot of it. Probably won't be hard as they think it's magic.

  17. Red Mercury? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just hope they never get a hold of a supply of Unobtanium..

  18. dihydrogen monoxide by twmcneil · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hope they don't learn about the absolutely lethal dihydrogen monoxide. They'll be all over that shit.

    Oh, I let the cat out of the bag didn't I?

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    1. Re:dihydrogen monoxide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, the good news is - dihydrogen monoxide is readily avialable to everyone in the developed world, which eliminates most strategic advantages for isis of having large supplies of it for use in combat.

    2. Re:dihydrogen monoxide by turbidostato · · Score: 1

      "Well, the good news is - dihydrogen monoxide is readily avialable to everyone in the developed world"

      Even better, these people live in deserts, doesn't they? Now, can you fathom what's really scarce in a desert? We've already win!!!

    3. Re:dihydrogen monoxide by darthsilun · · Score: 1

      But I have solid dihydrogen monoxide. And transparent aluminum (aluminium for euro pedants) too.

    4. Re:dihydrogen monoxide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well, the good news is - dihydrogen monoxide is readily avialable to everyone in the developed world

      And just as available is its organic (and thus far more potent) analog, hydrogen hydroxide.

    5. Re:dihydrogen monoxide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      However, in the third world, and especially in the middle-east, there is a shortage of pure, weapons-grade DHMO.

    6. Re:dihydrogen monoxide by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I have transparent aluminum on my watch and my phone!

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  19. I hope they never find out... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...that what they're really looking for is Red Matter.

  20. Ark of the Covenant! by Zobeid · · Score: 5, Funny

    Red Mercury is totally bogus. If they were smart, they'd go to Ethiopia and swipe the Tabota Seyen -- the Ark of the Covenant. There's your super-weapon. I mean, all you have to do is carry it in front of your army, and it just wipes out your enemies in masse! The Ethiopians themselves have used it multiple times in battle.

    Did you guys *see* what it did in Raiders of the Lost Ark? That movie was totally fact-based! ;)

    1. Re:Ark of the Covenant! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's like something from the slashdot story generator:

      The New York Times Magazine has a fascinating story about ISIS efforts to get their hands on a mysterious and powerful superweapon called "The Philosophers Stone". The problem is that by consensus among scientific authorities, "The Philosophers Stone" doesn't exist. And yet that hasn't stopped the legend of "The Philosophers Stone", touted by sources from Nazi conspiracy theorists to former Manhattan Project scientists, as having magical properties. Middle East weapons traders have even spun elaborate stories for its properties (ranging from thermonuclear explosive properties to sexual enhancement) and origins and sources (from Soviet weapons labs to Roman graveyards). What can account for the enduring myth of "The Philosophers Stone" — is it rampant scientific illiteracy, the power of urban legend and shared myth, or something else?

    2. Re:Ark of the Covenant! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like that you had to put a smiley at the end of your post because you know that there are too many people on Slashdot dumb enough to think that you weren't joking otherwise.

    3. Re:Ark of the Covenant! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Red Mercury is the code name for Hell Boy. You didn't hear it from me.

    4. Re:Ark of the Covenant! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They can't it had a crisis of faith and switched from Judaism to Christianity it wont work unless you honour the Almighty $ whilst prasing Jeezbuzz.

  21. Be careful hunting for a new "Red Matter" by Cito · · Score: 2

    It gave Spock COPD

  22. Stop educating them about red mercury by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

    Let us set up a clandestine program to dope real RDX explosives red, make spectacular explosions as demo and lure them in. Let us sell them fake red mercury that would not explode well, add tracers to them and track them down.

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    1. Re:Stop educating them about red mercury by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      It is always possible they confused red phosphorous with red mercury...

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  23. just like nukes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    biggest conspiracy theory ever

    1. Re:just like nukes by Provocateur · · Score: 1

      but they post about it on SLASHDOT, like that's "stuff that matters!"

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  24. I'm still waiting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm still waiting for that Israel/UK joint SARS virus that targets only Middle Easterners.
    https://occupycorporatism.com/new-race-specific-engineered-sars-virus-may-transmit-person-to-person/

  25. Annoying by mhkohne · · Score: 2

    As much as I like laughing at idiots, I'm not sure that letting them know it's bullshit is in anyone's best interest. Every bit of money and manpower they devote to finding shit that doesn't exist is money and manpower that's not killing everyone else.

    In fact, the RIGHT approach to this would have been to seed the marketplace with various government agents leading the bad guys on in their hunt for this mcguffin.

    Remember folks: DON'T educate the bad guys. Don't tell them what they are doing wrong - it's counterproductive to make them smarter.

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    1. Re:Annoying by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 1

      I don't think your reverse-psychology is gonna work. The more you tell them it's fake, the harder they'll look. And the hard they look, the faster they'll find. How do you like being responsible for them getting their hands on this wonder-weapon?

    2. Re:Annoying by gman003 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I thought this too, but after reading the article, it seems knowledge that red mercury is fake is already easily found. They just ignore it, often rationalizing the evidence of a hoax as a government-run disinformation campaign. They'll just think the same of the NYT's article - perhaps it will even egg them on, if the government is so desperate as to have their news puppets push this story (or so they'll phrase it).

    3. Re: Annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really now. These are Soong-class supermen that can foil and negate whole Western security systems from caves halfway around the world while successfully replacing dialysis sessions with prayer sessions and somehow communicating securely via xboxes and whatsapp. If they are really looking at something at something like that, that's a really big heads up, there. Fortunately, most of the undeveloped world's supply of it is safely guarded in Korea, one of whose genius former benevolent leaders discovered it while developing cold fusion, which he also discovered. Since they are fiercely secular, despite their leaders' divine stature and achievements, there's absolutely no danger of their ever getting to it. And they also seem to be evenly matched in superior leadership and divine favor.

    4. Re:Annoying by Xest · · Score: 1

      I don't really buy this idea, for every one of them that believes in the myth there are going to be a bunch who also know it's bullshit - they're not all going to believe it's a myth, and even a little rudimentary research on the net will tell them it's a myth.

      So why bother sending in intelligence agents, with the risk that they'll be trying to sell to someone who knows it's bullshit, and so just executes the agent?

      It'd be far more sensible to send in intelligence agents to pretend to want to sell something that's actually real, like stinger missiles, or radioactive materials for a dirty bomb.

      Baiting terrorists based on a myth is pointless when you can bait them just as well with something real, like nuclear weapons. Even the good old well sought after suitcase nuke is more plausible and less likely to get your agents killed on nothing more than a myth.

    5. Re:Annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought this too, but after reading the article, it seems knowledge that red mercury is fake is already easily found. They just ignore it, often rationalizing the evidence of a hoax as a government-run disinformation campaign. They'll just think the same of the NYT's article - perhaps it will even egg them on, if the government is so desperate as to have their news puppets push this story (or so they'll phrase it).

      Really? send the terrorists on a snipe-hunt?

    6. Re:Annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those guys you send to sell stinger missiles? Make them advertise that they do not and will not ever sell red mercury, only stinger missiles. Two birds, one stone.

    7. Re:Annoying by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Dude. Relax. If they as much as looked at the internet they would already know that it's bogus. You can't do a web search without instantly learning that it's bunk.

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    8. Re:Annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't really buy this idea, for every one of them that believes in the myth there are going to be a bunch who also know it's bullshit - they're not all going to believe it's a myth, and even a little rudimentary research on the net will tell them it's a myth.

      So why bother sending in intelligence agents, with the risk that they'll be trying to sell to someone who knows it's bullshit, and so just executes the agent?

      It'd be far more sensible to send in intelligence agents to pretend to want to sell something that's actually real, like stinger missiles, or radioactive materials for a dirty bomb.

      Baiting terrorists based on a myth is pointless when you can bait them just as well with something real, like nuclear weapons. Even the good old well sought after suitcase nuke is more plausible and less likely to get your agents killed on nothing more than a myth.

      Your one flaw in logic is that we are talking about Islamic extremists, who fly planes into buildings because they believe that they are going to have 70 virgins in some mythical afterlife that is so nice.. but made by a god that believes in killing innocents and rewards it..

      If these rag head idiots are dumb enough to believe that story and give up their lives on the bet that it is for real.. they are dumb enough to fall for the red mercury story, period.. they are too dumb to have any hope of having any real understanding of real science.

    9. Re:Annoying by Xest · · Score: 1

      And that is probably one of the biggest mistakes the losing side of just about every war has ever made - underestimating their enemy.

      You're also talking about the sorts of people who have concoted some rather clever IEDs, who have managed to intercept predator drone feeds, and who have been managing to survive in bombarded cities cut off from all food and water supplies for years.

      Some, such as the Glasgow airport attackers are even Phd students/graduates. Their explosives experts put together bombs and detonators that take a wealth of scientific knowledge and can counter some of the most advanced jamming tech the world's leading military - the US has been able to research and deploy.

      You're talking about people who have been able to create a defacto nation state in the middle of the sovereign territory of two nations that have themselves struggle to even build something loosely resembling a stable state.

      Yes, there are a lot of stupid jihadis, the ones who kill themselves are frequently dumb drones who fall for the crock of shit about dying to get a hundred virgins. But behind each of those dumb fuck suicide bombers are incredibly intelligent explosives experts, incredibly clever and manipulative recruiters whispering in their ears and telling them what to do.

      So tell me, who do you think goes out buying their equipment, do you think it's the suicide bomber drones themselves, or the people who kit them out in the first place?

      To pretend all islamic extremists are merely dumb is dangerous and naive. Even Sun Tzu all those centuries ago understood that you should never underestimate your enemy - and that holds true to this day. To simply write them off as dumb is the surest way to get more of our soldiers and civilians killed.

  26. Red Material? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wasn't this used in the first JJ Abrams Star Trek reboot? The stuff will suck in an entire planet, it truly is dangerous. The movie proved it. Just need to kidnap Spock to find some...

  27. Isis - sex goddess by MakersDirector · · Score: 0

    I've long suspected Isis is actually the mind of the sex goddess written about in Ancient Egypt.

    And she's merely looking for a little stimulation in the form of a fabled sex device in a world that's gone crazy.

    1. Re:Isis - sex goddess by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      That's an insult to the culture of ancient Egypt.

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    2. Re:Isis - sex goddess by MakersDirector · · Score: 0

      Bizarre, cyber. A little bit of research on Isis will demonstrate she's often regarded as the goddess of the female libido.

      More than once, her sanity's been questioned throughout history.

      An insult to the ancient culture? Why's that? Are you uncomfortable talking about sex or does it bother you?

      Or do you just not understand Egyptian history?

    3. Re:Isis - sex goddess by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      Makers, what?? I'm saying the terror group, in using the name ISIS, is an insult to ancient Egyptian culture, namely ISIS herself; but also by extension I suppose Osiris, Horus, Ra, and hell, even Set.
      ISIS (aka Daesh/ISIL) are an abomination that soils the name, and ironcially devalues and detests ancient cultures, as the destruction of Palmyra has recently shown.
      That's an interesting conclusion you jumped to there, you seemed awfully primed to argue with someone. Or you have sex on the brain a lot.

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    4. Re:Isis - sex goddess by MakersDirector · · Score: 0

      I merely mentioned a perspective and provided support evidence for that perspective.

      Quit projecting your issues onto others.

    5. Re:Isis - sex goddess by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1
      Most trolls post anonymously, but I admire your style.
      However, I believe they call this, "psychological transference".. I quote:

      An insult to the ancient culture? Why's that? Are you uncomfortable talking about sex or does it bother you?

      You projected an imagined issue onto me, that of "being uncomfortable with sex". You completely misread the meaning of my post when there was no cause to.
      You provided not a shred of any kind of evidence whatsoever. That you even claim to is ludicrous. You're just looking for an argument, i.e. trolling.
      Now bugger off, there will be further communication, you're not worth my time.

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    6. Re:Isis - sex goddess by MakersDirector · · Score: 0

      Ok....I suppose you've won then! Congrats!

  28. Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by swschrad · · Score: 1

    people who are wildly batshit insane keep yakking about the mythical "red mercury"

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    1. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You know, there may be more to this story than meets the eye. The New York Times loves to monger for war. During the run-up to Iraq, they were some of the biggest cheerleaders for glorious victory over the axis of evil. Also, let's remember that the US gov't has this penchant for psy-ops that include ridicule of enemies, and for using the US media to spread them. During WWII, they tried to spread "Hitler only has one testicle" and during the Cold War, there were practically new rumors about Castro every week. The CIA even tried to him thallium salts, which would make his beard fall out. The thinking being that those stupid Cubans, seeing their leader's naked chin, would then overthrow the communists. Even today, we have "Hitler was gay" rumors floated in the media. It almost seems like our intelligence apparatus likes to spread misinformation even when it's no longer needed. Maybe just to stay in practice.

      I'm not saying that people who are stupid enough to believe they are the harbingers of a worldwide caliphate are not also stupid enough to believe in "Red Mercury", but I just caution people that when it comes to warmongering, our government is not above using rumor and falsehood.

      Remember George Bush's "yellowcake uranium"?

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    2. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by Gr8Apes · · Score: 2

      people who are wildly batshit insane keep yakking about the mythical "red mercury"

      Or they watched Star Trek's "Red Matter" plot....

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    3. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Or they watched Star Trek's "Red Matter" plot....

      Yeah, the idea is just about as dumb.

      It sure would be nice if someone would do an all-new Star Trek movie franchise, but not like JJ's crapfest.

    4. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by labnet · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Whenever I travel and turn on CNN (as we don't get it at home), I feel like someone served up a meringue. It tastes sweet but has no real substance and certainly isn't good for you.
      Take this for example.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
      Its a video of Putin talking about ISIS. And I'm suddenly struck by what feels like raw honesty from a politician, not this fake pseudo speak we normally get from the MSM and western politics.

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    5. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not saying that people who are stupid enough to believe they are the harbingers of a worldwide caliphate are not also stupid enough to believe in "Red Mercury"

      You're not saying it but the media certainly is. There has been a wave of "lol look at hw dum eysis are! ROFL" stories in the last three days. It's the emptiest and weakest propaganda I've yet seen from a western media which is not institutionally incapable of reporting or even contextualising world events in a critical way.

      I think a lot of media people have been rattled by the realization of just how extensive and effective their propaganda counterparts in radical Islamic spheres have now become. The clear inability/unwillingness of Allied forces to defeat ISIS, coupled with the fact that their ideology is spreading and spreading effectively amoung young and disenfranchised Arabs, and the slowly dawning epiphany that our society has become too corrupt, too unprincipled, and too apathetic to serve as an example or counterargument to that ideology, has hit some pretty hard.

      The media can lampoon and expose ISIS all they like. That Daily Show guy can give as many rousing comedy speeches as he wants. Hollande can have his state of emergency go on indefinitely. Trump can bellow and Obama can mince their words as much as they like. It won't matter. ISIS have won the propaganda war at home among the Arabs and now abroad in the Europe. The West is weak, while radical jihadi's ruthless, merciless, and above all determined.

      Bomb and drone strike as many fighters as you like. Level as many cities as you like. Back as many Assads as you like, or don't back them. It will make no difference. Radical Islam, striking back at the west, is now an institutionalized idea, to be admired, lionized, and ultimately taken up by the next generation of angry Arab youth. The West can do nothing but thrash wildly at its bastard child and succeed only in breeding the next generation of religious fanatics.

      ISIS has won. This Laughter is hollow.

    6. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a good element for a comic book story: actually using Red Mercury against the alien invaders...

    7. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering that the Red Mercury legend is still strongly floating around, I'd say that the KGB were far superior in (dis)information warfare. FSB is not far behind, looking all the stuff Putin's pulling around.

    8. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      And I wish they would shut up--it keeps me awake at night.

      And, yes, I resent that.

    9. Re: Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Terrorists trying to obtain red mercury and MI5 setting up a sting operation was anot episode of Spooks from over 10 years ago...
      Not sure if this story is true or just Chinese whispers and someone confusing television with real life.

      Link to episode http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0707348/

    10. Re: Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      stop the bullshit. mohammedic overbreeding is the root cause of all this extremism.

      the arabs themselves need to clean their culture of excessive breeding.

    11. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      And the best bit is - no teleprompter!

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    12. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes, powerful words.

      As a Romanian, I laughed a bitter laugh when I reached the part about respecting the interests of other people, coming from the mouth of a former Soviet citizen, a former KGB employee.

    13. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by Zorpheus · · Score: 1

      It doesn't need a secret service for that. A businessman trying to make money is all.

    14. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Whenever I travel and turn on CNN (as we don't get it at home), I feel like someone served up a meringue. It tastes sweet but has no real substance and certainly isn't good for you.
      Take this for example.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
      Its a video of Putin talking about ISIS. And I'm suddenly struck by what feels like raw honesty from a politician, not this fake pseudo speak we normally get from the MSM and western politics.

      So you prefer your sociopaths to be more cunning, more opaque and less transparent? Good, because that's exactly what those types of sociopaths want as well :)

      Never confuse sincerity with honesty, truth or fact.

    15. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by LWATCDR · · Score: 3, Informative

      Dude you so fell for it. Red Mercury is very real and dangerous. It can take out an entire city with ease. It is a meta-stable nuclear isomer that when you apply a resonant magnetic field will cause a cascade release of photons in the gamma ray range powerful enough to act a trigger in e thermonuclear device. Even without a fusion device it would cause a large gamma ray event.
      Thank goodness that ISIS is still wasting it's time with small terror attacks like the one in France. If they ever dedicated themselves 100% to the acquisition of red mercury they might destroy the western world.

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    16. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by T.E.D. · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nobody watches CNN at home. Their entire viewership consists of people stuck waiting in airport terminals and Doctors' offices.

    17. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Current moderation - +1 Informative.

      I was not expecting that.

    18. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      without a fusion device it would cause a large gamma ray event.

      good thing no one knows where it is, if someone were to trigger it in a large city we would be overrun with super heroes.

    19. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      people who are wildly batshit insane keep yakking about the mythical "red mercury"

      Or they watched Star Trek's "Red Matter" plot....

      I immediately thought the opposite, that whoever wrote red matter into the plot was aping the legend of red mercury.

      Hmmmm, I wonder what protomatter, which every ethical scientist has denounced as dangerously unpredictable, was aping.

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    20. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 1

      Fall of the Soviet Union was 25 years ago. Do you think Putin hasn't changed his worldview one bit since then?

    21. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by oldmac31310 · · Score: 0

      There is good reason to believe that Hitler was gay, even if not consummated. And if not that necessarily that, not entirely heterosexual either. Eva Braun usually considered a prop. His great hero was Frederick the Great who was definitely gay, so...well, just saying. Apart from that, I agree, anything and everything however ludicrous is used to try to discredit the enemy or perceived enemy both domestic and foreign.

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    22. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Fall of the Soviet Union was 25 years ago. Do you think Putin hasn't changed his worldview one bit since then?

      Putin greatly regrets that the Soviet Union broke apart. He's said more than once that the Soviet breakup is the worst political catastrophe of the 20th century.
      More recently, it's pretty clear that he considers the former Soviet states as still belonging to Russia, they are under Russia's sphere of influence. He has no problem just taking whatever parts are convenient for Russia's interests, as Ukraine found out when they doubted they were still under Russian authority.

    23. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      It'll be interesting to see how Star Trek Beyond (2016) turns out, now that J.J. Abrams has moved on to Star Wars and Orci and Kurtzman are no longer writers.
      The current director directed three Fast and Furious movies though, so he's not known for his subtlety.
      Simon Pegg gets a chance to write, though.

    24. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, when I want honesty I turn to the Russians. Honestest most believable peoples around.

    25. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      It probably won't be any good.

      1) it inherits from the JJTrek movies and is in the same universe, many of the same actors, etc.
      2) Simon Pegg likes the JJTrek movies and has bashed people who didn't.
      3) a F&F director doesn't seem like a good pick for Star Trek, which *should* be a lot more cerebral than that.

      So it'll probably be more of the same. Maybe the new director will omit the lens flare though.

    26. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      Whether or not we think that we're better off without the soviet union, it was really an epic economic and social catastrophe. Millions starved or died from methanol poisoning. The "Arduous March" in DPRK is sad.
      Come to think of it, the financial capitalism crisis from 2007-2010 was rather disastrous but that system survived. It's not without its horrors too, what with the US deciding to destroy Libya so as to warn other states what their fate may be if their pursue an independent policy.

    27. Re:Red Mercury = Wildly Batshit Insane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I started to watch your video, and I heard Putin criticizing Obama for one sided actions that lead to crises! Very amusing, I feel like I've been Rick Rolled!

      As for his delivery, and the way he searched for words and phrases, he sounded very much like Obama.

  29. Bell by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    They're looking in the wrong place.

    This is what Daesh should actually be looking for:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    1. Re:Bell by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      So THAT's what Clock Boy was trying to build with that famed high school science fair project!

    2. Re:Bell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is what Daesh should actually be looking for

      Yup, 9ft wide and 15 ft high ... easily concealed. Or did you mean the Xerum 525 contained in die Glocke? (Or to be pedantic 'in der Glocke' as the ... ahem ... case may be).

    3. Re: Bell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's in the Glock. This one here. See, just look in this hole and push this lever, and good things will happen. Keep looking in the hole while you push, this is important.

  30. Star Trek? by hawkbug · · Score: 1

    I take it they haven't seen the Star Trek reboots...

    1. Re:Star Trek? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

      I take it they haven't seen the Star Trek reboots...

      Well they tried. They were told it was important to watch the movies in order, but they just couldn't get past Star Trek 5 - as soon as Kirk met God, the Daesh felt obligated to burn down the theater.

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  31. mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, don't TELL them it's fake you buncha DUMBASSES!

    Jeez louise you idiots are almost as dumb as the daeshbags are.

  32. Hey ISIS ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    For the right price, I could be persuaded to part with my red mercury.

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    1. Re:Hey ISIS ... by interval1066 · · Score: 1

      "Pssst, hey ISIS, forget red mercury, I've got a REAL super weapon for you; its called The Omega Device. Its here, under my bed. Sell it cheap... just let me sell this bridge to this other guy and I'll be right with you..."

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  33. High Level Waste by sycodon · · Score: 1

    I think they'd be happy just to get their hands on some high level radioactive wastes so they can build a dirty bomb. So while everyone is being snarky, they are probably being serious, but not about Red Mercury.

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    1. Re:High Level Waste by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      they want red mercury rockets.

      according to the article, the culprit might be the batshit insane poorly informed turkish press. or maybe it's the turkish propaganda rather than turkish press.

      in either case, the physical properties are impossible.

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    2. Re:High Level Waste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And a 100 square foot area would get contaminated. Whoop-de-shit.

    3. Re:High Level Waste by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's almost as silly as Red Mercury. Do you know why no terrorist plots have actually detonated a dirty bomb? It's not because radioactive materials are hard to get hold of, it's because building an effective dirty bomb is really hard. You have to find something that is sufficiently radioactive to be a problem, that is easy to disburse over a wide area, but which won't disburse so far / quickly that it will simply drop to background radioactivity levels.

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    4. Re: High Level Waste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think giving them some high level nuclear waste is a bad idea. Go read the NRCs fact sheet on dirty bombs: http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/fact-sheets/fs-dirty-bombs.html

      Just put it in really messy packaging and let them try to figure out how to use it without dying. There will be lots of trial and error...

    5. Re:High Level Waste by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      But how would you ever find out if you eschew science and instead rely in your sky daddy to tell you everything you ever need to know?

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    6. Re:High Level Waste by cwsumner · · Score: 1

      But how would you ever find out if you eschew science and instead rely in your sky daddy to tell you everything you ever need to know?

      That would depend on who the "sky daddy" -is-.

      What, don't you watch "Ancient Aliens" on TV?? 8-)

  34. mercuric oxide by HiThere · · Score: 1

    Mercuric oxide is red. I'm not sure about any of the other properties, but it *is* red. (Actually orange might be a better descriptive, but it's on the red side of orange.)

    Google: mercuric oxide color

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    1. Re:mercuric oxide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want a proper mercury-containing compound which is red in color, look no further than cinnabar (from which vermilion is made, a brilliant red pigment).

  35. Red Matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think we've all seen what Red Matter did to the planet Vulcan. If the terrorists get their hands on that, we are all doomed.

  36. Disinformation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My understanding -- which could be wrong, because the intelligence agencies certainly aren't going to discuss it openly -- is that the red mercury myth was deliberately spread by western intelligence agencies both as a red herring and as a way to flush out state and non-state actors attempting to lay hands on nuclear materials. I would not be at all surprised if CIA operatives have sold brick dust at exorbitant prices to would-be nuclear terrorists more than once.

  37. It figures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The clowns of ISIS believe the islam crap fervently enough to kill and get killed for the sake of that pathetic mythology. It is not surprising that they also believe the red mercury mumbo-jumbo.

  38. Re:Sexual enhancement by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    What is it with these dune coon jihadis?

    What is it with that hair, Donald?

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  39. One Piece by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't let them know about this other super weapon.

    1. Re:One Piece by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, I know which one that you mean, the one that is available at comic conventions, among the booth babes and costumed furries. And we're the ones running the asylum

  40. Islam's relationship to modern science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Below is but a few of the many recent noteworthy contributions from the so-called religion of peace to the field of Scientific Advancement

    Polio is making a come back in Afghanistan, Nigeria and Pakistan, thanks to Islam, many health workers were killed because they were accused of trying to make the little children infertile with the polio vaccine

    Islamic clerics from Saudi Arabia claim that female who drive are prone to damage their ovaries

    And if you really want to know how moslem feel about science, I encourage you to read an article from the Discover Magazine to find out

    http://discovermagazine.com/20...

    ... and yes, to most moslems, science has to follow the quran or it'll be deemed to be haram

    1. Re:Islam's relationship to modern science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Modded troll, but each statement is true.
      Every refugee who goes to a non-Islamic country "votes with their feet" against Islam.

    2. Re:Islam's relationship to modern science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every refugee who goes to a non-Islamic country "votes with their feet" against Islam.

      And even more pertinently, every refugee who leaves areas under Daesh control (or areas at threat of falling under their control) is voting with their feet (and at great personal risk) against the Caliphate. That's why Daesh sought in part to use their Paris action to demonstrate to Western governments the risks of accepting those they regard as their subjects.

    3. Re: Islam's relationship to modern science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's no guarantee the countries they move to won't eventually become Islamic if they migrate in sufficient numbers and vote in favour of that

    4. Re: Islam's relationship to modern science by GCsoftware · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, because Shariah does not allow a valid Caliph (whom al-Baghdadi is, btw - he meets all the qualifications including being Qurayshi, the first real Caliph since like the Abbasids) to recognise any borders or accept any peace treaties longer than 10 years.

      It's the duty of the Caliph to wage Jihad and conquer as much as possible territory to be included in Dar al-Islam - should he not do so, he would no longer be worthy of bays'a [allegiance] of Muslims.

      It's not so much lebensraum but rather territory that hasn't yet been occupied by the Ummah (basically the nation that is Muslim).

      This is the hardcore Salafi doctrine by which people like Daeesh operate by and it's theologically valid, though batshit insane.

      HOWEVER, only about 70-80% of Muslims are Sunnis and of those maybe 10-15% are Salafis.

      So no, the "mohammedic brutalism" will not be carried with them - they've seen what life under a Caliphate is like and they want the hell out of there.

      I can say this with some certainty as during my last 3 years in Beirut (which BTW has more Syrian refugees than ANY Western city) say that the Daeesh are a bunch of psychopathic foreign assholes led by an eloquent sociopath from Baghdad.

    5. Re: Islam's relationship to modern science by GCsoftware · · Score: 1

      Well write it into the constitution of the country then if you're that worried - it sorta works in Lebanon (well actually it's a total cluster duck right now but that's because of Syria).

      In Lebanon the seats in Parliament are allocated by sect, Christians get half, Muslims (including fringe groups like Alawis and Druze) get the other half.

      The president is ALWAYS a Maronite Catholic, the Prime Minister a Sunni and the speaker of Parliament a Twelver Shia.

      Or shit, just give them residency papers and not citizenship and there's no problem with voting at all..

    6. Re:Islam's relationship to modern science by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      Well of course we can argue that Islam contributed a lot to modern science. The problem is the last contributions were almost 1,000 years ago.

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    7. Re:Islam's relationship to modern science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Is it a woosh moment? Hard to tell these days...

      The increased polio rates are due to the CIA's use of a fake vaccination program to nab Bin Laden. While it may have seemed worth it to catch him, the credibility of health workers in the region has been damaged. This has been been reported, even in the mainstream news, several times this year so you should be able to find a source to your liking.

      I realise we hate terrorists but is the racism really necessary?

    8. Re: Islam's relationship to modern science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      So no, the "mohammedic brutalism" will not be carried with them - they've seen what life under a Caliphate is like and they want the hell out of there.

      The problem with this, is their children or grandchildren will fall right back into blowing people up and sawing heads off in their new countries as soon as there is any societal stress, loss of a job, whatever.

      The "religion" (more of a death-cult) has that feature built in, it will spontaneously create people willing to die to advance the cause of the death-cult.

      What the West Needs to Know This video explains how and why this happens, using the koran as the source along with former guys who were about to blow people up.

    9. Re: Islam's relationship to modern science by rgbatduke · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This is the hardcore Salafi doctrine by which people like Daeesh operate by and it's theologically valid, though batshit insane.

      HOWEVER, only about 70-80% of Muslims are Sunnis and of those maybe 10-15% are Salafis.

      Oooo, let's do the arithmetic. There are roughly 1.6 billion Muslims (sources: multiple, although many would go as high as 1.9 billion and rising). Let's be conservative and go with 70% of the smaller number -- 0.7 x 1.6 = 1.12 billion are Sunnis. Of these (again, being conservative) 10% are Salafis. That means 112 million Muslims are Salafis! Or as many as 200 million, of one uses the higher end of that projection. Of the Salafis, roughly 10 million are estimated to be Salafi Jihadists. So sure, less than one percent, but the original numbers are so large that the actual numbers are still huge, if you view them as a potential army and recruiting ground for violent Jihad.

      So what you are saying is that the Daeesh are a huge bunch of psychopathic assholes led by an eloquent sociopath from Baghdad, because while it is true that all Salafis, no matter how batshit insane the theology to which they subscribe, are not Daeesh Jihadists, they are at the very least a fertile ground for recruitment and have the potential to become a bandwagon several hundred million strong if ISIS appears to be succeeding, and it also strongly suggests that they aren't all foreign psychopathic assholes. There is a rather large pool of the domestic home-grown type.

      All of which was true for Al-Queda as well, as it isn't just Salafi Jihadists. Jihad is comparatively ecumenical in Islam, and while it is not necessarily violent, it can easily become violent, often quite rapidly. There is a large disaffected population of young, volatile Muslims worldwide. In some, but not all, non-Muslim countries they feel highly marginalized. In many Muslim countries the governments are so corrupt that even though Muslims per se aren't marginalized, life is worse than it is under the foreign non-Muslim governments, marginalization or not. Then there is the antique Sunni vs Shia problem -- a division that perpetuates Muslim on Muslim violence and weakens Islam immeasurably as its adherents perpetually discover that the enemy of my enemy is a better friend, Muslim or not. Far too much of Islam is tribal culture still living in the 8th or 9th century, but dreaming of the 12th and 13th centuries when it was a, perhaps the, dominant world power. Young Muslims see this division and are easy meat for any charismatic religious leader who promises to end the rift and restore Islam to its "rightful" status as a, no, as the dominant world culture.

      At the end of the day, though, there is the Quran. And the Quran is a stupendously violent document. It was a revolutionary document back when it was written, designed to generate an us vs them mentality and create a social and religious identity to support the establishment of a violently conquered tribal empire. It succeeded. Its memes are strong. This makes the followers of any sort of literalist interpretation of the Quran enormously dangerous to non-believers, because it quite literally makes converting or killing or enslaving them a holy duty, especially if they in any way interfere with or refuse to live under the religious laws of Islam, believer or not. This isn't really arguable -- one can just read the damn thing and see for yourself (but as usual with holy scriptures, nobody does, they just prefer to quote what somebody else says about them in a pious way). Being a liberal Muslim is even more difficult than it is to be a liberal Jew or Christian, and that really isn't easy if one reads, say Numbers 31 in the OT to see how God really feels about the Midianites and non-Jews in general, or reads Leviticus to see how he really feels about slavery and women. In all cases one has to sort of elide all of the passages that don't agree with what you want to believe is The Good, an

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    10. Re: Islam's relationship to modern science by johannesg · · Score: 1

      Oh lovely, that's only 105-180 million people who subscribe to that particular ideology then...

      How many "lone wolves" do we need before it is considered a bit of a problem?

    11. Re: Islam's relationship to modern science by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 2

      But nobody reads the Quran, any more than they read Numbers, or Leviticus, or Acts, or the Book of Mormon (which is a REAL hoot).

      I've read Numbers and Leviticus. The first five books, really. Leviticus was interesting, somewhat, in an anthropological sense. Numbers, on the other hand, was painful. Like reading the census, in prose. Either way, I credit actually reading part of the Christian Bible (the Jewish Torah?) with helping me develop a healthy atheism.

      But you wrote a fantastic post. I hope you're modded up.

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    12. Re:Islam's relationship to modern science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    13. Re:Islam's relationship to modern science by Beetle+B. · · Score: 1

      Polio is making a come back in Afghanistan, Nigeria and Pakistan, thanks to Islam, many health workers were killed because they were accused of trying to make the little children infertile with the polio vaccine

      Polio has been wiped out of Nigeria.

      Cases in Pakistan are down to about 1/8 of what it was last year.

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    14. Re: Islam's relationship to modern science by rgbatduke · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The census in prose with the lovely insertions of slaughtering the Midianite captives including women and children EXCEPT for the young virginal girls who were given to Moses' soldiers to -- wait for it -- rape and enslave, followed by a half page of tallying up the loot of a genocidally slaughtered civilization and recording how much of it Moses, the priests, and the war captains got. If one rewrote it and published it as an account of what the ISIS "caliph" did with, say, Beirut or Damascus, the world would be shocked and cry out everything from genocide to infanticide, but because, well, it's MOSES, well then it is OK. Even Jesus loved Moses, and entertained the man himself during his transfiguration.

      Come to think of it, a lot of what ISIS has done does fit right in with Old Testament reports of God's Own People.

      rgb

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    15. Re: Islam's relationship to modern science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Give me your address and I'll send you some free Muslims by return of post.

    16. Re:Islam's relationship to modern science by oldmac31310 · · Score: 0

      I find it funny that alcohol is an arabic word, yet is forbidden by islam. On a general note, all religion is bad, very bad.

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    17. Re:Islam's relationship to modern science by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Those attitudes are also fairly prominent in predominently-Christian sub-saharan Africa. It's not an Islam problem, it's "barbaric tribes trying to masquerade as civilations" problem.

    18. Re: Islam's relationship to modern science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why don't they fight I know I would so all these people capable of fighting leaving has me concerned

    19. Re:Islam's relationship to modern science by Mr.CRC · · Score: 1

      It is not clear that those advances occurred because of Islam. In fact, they might have occurred in spite of Islam. Don't believe everything you hear a million times.

    20. Re: Islam's relationship to modern science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoosh on you.

      The difference is giving polio vs smoke and mirrors to infiltrate ISIS. You missed that it's not the same as you think.

    21. Re: Islam's relationship to modern science by rhyous · · Score: 1

      But nobody reads the Quran, any more than they read Numbers, or Leviticus, or Acts, or the Book of Mormon (which is a REAL hoot).

      You are correct about Numbers. It is is rarely read. Quran, Acts, and the Book of Mormon, you are incorrect.

      Mormon's do read the Book the of Mormon. There are only 15 million Mormons but many read the book daily. I'm interested in what you think is a "REAL hoot" about the BOM, though.

      Also, most devout Catholics and other Christian religions read the Bible, but I've heard that they stick mostly to Psalms and the New Testament. In fact, on my mission, many Christians had partial Bibles that only contained Psalms and the New Testament. However, Acts is read slightly less than the four gospels, but it is read.

      And I have two Muslim coworkers that I've worked with long enough to call friends. Both have the Quran app on their phones and read it often, if not daily. That is not a large enough sample size to make a statistical analysis.

      Anyway, other than Numbers, the books you mentioned ARE read.

      Also, you might be surprised to find that most of those who are devout, are quite scientific as well. You might be surprised to find out how many scientists are extremely religious.

      I find a lot of people who are agnostic or atheist have actually made science their religion. Most aren't even practicing scientists, and instead of looking to the scientific method to teach them new ideas, they have "faith" in theories despite science not yet having proven or disproven them. They use science as their religion not to further science, but to attack religion. Your comments are pretty close to putting you in this bucket.

      Locke, Thomas Jefferson, and a handful of others created new memes a few hundred years ago.

      Yes, one of them was 'Separation of Church and State'. They carefully chose the word "Church" because they did not wast a 'Separation of God and State.' The wanted all to believe in God, but at the same time, they wanted no organized religion, or church, to have a hold of the government. And even though this meme didn't make it into the constitution, or in even in the Amendment people assume has this meme, the Judicial system has most recently been interpreting laws as if 'Separation of God and State' were in the constitution.

    22. Re: Islam's relationship to modern science by rgbatduke · · Score: 1

      I find a lot of people who are agnostic or atheist have actually made science their religion. Most aren't even practicing scientists, and instead of looking to the scientific method to teach them new ideas, they have "faith" in theories despite science not yet having proven or disproven them. They use science as their religion not to further science, but to attack religion. Your comments are pretty close to putting you in this bucket.

      Excuse number #912 -- "atheism is a religion too". Or better yet #912.A -- "science is a religion". Please. If you know anything at all about science, its purpose, and how it works, you know that it is not a religion. It is a way of figuring out what it is best to believe about the real world in a systematic and improvable way. Note well the two essential components -- "about the real world", and "in a systematic and improvable way". It addresses the real world, not a fantasy world, and the standard for truth is thus this objective world itself, not what people have said about it or believe about it or wrote about it in an ancient book long before we had anything vaguely approaching a science. But the second part is just as important. If I make a claim about some systematic organization supposed to hold in th real world, it is possible to accumulate evidence that supports the claim, refutes the claim, or is neutral towards the claim. Over time, more evidence and better methods of looking generally result in claims that we believe very, very strongly to be either true or very close to true, claims that we believe not to be true, and claims that cannot be decided by the evidence at hand. In all cases the standard of truth is correspondence of the assertion with reality itself, not with argumentation about reality, although the reasoning process is Bayesian and hence one isn't building up evidence-supported beliefs in isolation.

      "Science" is not a religion, it is the set of interlocking assertions that have the strongest, mutually supporting evidentiary support. It is literally what it is best to believe about the real world according to an actual standard. It does not assert perfect truth, it asserts probable truth, provisional probable truth at that. If you want to actually learn something about the reasoning process involved, I would recommend E. T. Jaynes' "Probability Theory, the Logic of Science". You might also want to peruse Richard Cox's monograph "The Algebra of Probable Inference". The difference between a religious text and these two works is so profound, so obvious, so glaring, that perhaps you will reconsider your rash statement that science is a religion. These books establish, via a minimal set of axioms, a direct connection between evidence and networks of probable beliefs -- they provided mathematical support and a proof of sorts that it is better to believe things given evidence than to believe any random notion that is asserted by anyone, anywhere, for whatever reason that is not supported by evidence, that contradicts beliefs that are supported by strong evidence, or that is contradicted by the evidence itself directly.

      I would offer examples -- but is there really any point? There are a near infinity of possible religions. There are quite a few actual religions, religions that contradict one another on numerous points, and the number swells to a really large number if one allows (as one should) all of the religions ever believed by any vagrant tribe throughout history, and all of the named variations on religions loosely shared between tribes.

      For starters, probability theory would dictate that even if one knew that precisely one of these variants was precisely true, it is rather improbable that your particular beliefs out of this set of possibilities is correct. It isn't even probable that your beliefs come from a major family that could be correct. The odds are against any given religion being correct before you examine evidence. Without evidence

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    23. Re:Islam's relationship to modern science by nobodie · · Score: 1

      I teach Saudi students. One of them was explaining to me that everything that science discovers is already in the Koran. Her example (And she, BTW, was divorced from her husband, working on /finishing her Masters in math and came from a wealthy family: she was not a fool, but she was indoctrinated) was that recently (IDK how recently, just recently) scientists have discovered that ant exoskeletons are made of silicon dioxide, which, being sand, is the primary ingredient of glass. This was already made clear in the Koran. How? Well when someone steps on an ant in the Koran the word for the sound of the ant being crushed is the same word for the sound of glass breaking. QED

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    24. Re: Islam's relationship to modern science by nobodie · · Score: 1

      Yes, one of them was 'Separation of Church and State'. They carefully chose the word "Church" because they did not wast a 'Separation of God and State.' The wanted all to believe in God, but at the same time, they wanted no organized religion, or church, to have a hold of the government. And even though this meme didn't make it into the constitution, or in even in the Amendment people assume has this meme, the Judicial system has most recently been interpreting laws as if 'Separation of God and State' were in the constitution.

      Don't be messing with TJ my friend. Jefferson was interested in the Unitarians, he liked their ideas. But keep that very much in mind, he was an idea man, and his head was exploding with ideas. One of the ideas he struggled with was the difference between the need for a system that protects people (he was the man who wrote the Bill of Rights for the Virginia state constitution, which was the model for the Bill of rights in the US constitution) and the idea of a pure democracy based on the Athenian model (basically white male property owners could govern and vote) which is what his idea of the Constitution was. (I'm not saying he wrote it, most of it was written by James Madison, one of his closest friends in Virginia)

      However to describe TJ as a "man of God" or anything like that would be very mistaken. He was a scientist and was very skeptical of the religious practices of his day, which was why he was interested in the unitarians: they seemed to focus on morality and ethical behavior that was supported by religions in general. He could support that.

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  41. Everyone knows by fred911 · · Score: 1

    Red mercury is located next to the dilithium crystals (below the unobtanium) at any Walmart.

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    1. Re:Everyone knows by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      No I'm not. I'm actually right next to the Pizzazium Infinionite.

    2. Re:Everyone knows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  42. You can find it..... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

    On that movie set where they faked the moon landings.

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  43. I suspect by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

    A lot of people who believe in Red Mercury don't believe in global warming.

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  44. J.J. Abrams by jdavidb · · Score: 1

    What can account for the enduring myth of Red Mercury

    We had almost stamped out that myth, and then Star Trek (2009) came out with red matter, and it started up all over again.

  45. Indiana Jones and the Search for Red Mercury? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    New sequel? Indy returns to the mid east with Nazis and Communists replaced by ISIS.

  46. Magic bullet by akgooseman · · Score: 1

    Real or not, red muercury is used to lure rubes into ISIS' ranks as the superweapon for wiping out the superpowers. Without a superweapon on their side, the ISIS rubes know they're looking at a serious butt kicking when the sleeping giant tires of their games - and nobody wants to be on the losing side. ISIS leadership knows this, too, and has fabricated the red mercury story and how close they are to acquiring it to keep membership and morale up. I could also be completely full of shit.

  47. Shut up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  48. They are idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think anyone questioned that.

    1. Re:They are idiots by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      I don't think anyone questioned that.

      Yet they managed to build a strong "state", make tons of money, and kill many people on the West. The West being much more clever.

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    2. Re:They are idiots by somenickname · · Score: 2

      I guess it's a matter of perspective. They've managed to conquer a small swath of barely ariable land, sell numerous ancient artifacts that they didn't discover and kill an infitesimally small percentage of westerners. And they did all of that using the technology of the "much more clever" westerners.

    3. Re: They are idiots by jimmybuffet · · Score: 1

      These guys really are morons, I see red mercury's on the road every day. They just need to rob the nearest ford dealership.

    4. Re:They are idiots by hey! · · Score: 1

      Well, making a lot of money doesn't take a lot of brains if the rules of the "game" allow you to use guns to seize productive assets, particularly of the extract-from-the-ground variety (oil, diamonds, tantalum etc.). This is particularly true when those things are geographically located in a place that has a power vacuum.

      In such situations boldness and ruthlessness will either get you killed or make you rich.

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  49. I know where you can get all you need by paiute · · Score: 2

    It's at the bottom of a big pit on Oak Island. Just keep digging. It's down there.

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  50. Do the research. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is typical /. propaganda. Red Mercury DOES exist.

    I know you're mocking, but that's closer to the truth than you want to believe. Red Mercury doesn't exist as a matter of US government policy with the all too cute cover story that same government circulated rumors about it to create a terrorist honeypot. They know the Soviets developed it. And so did Sam Cohen. The guy was involved with nuclear weaponry from that start for goodness sake, with a great handle on Soviet nuclear developments as well. But the whistleblower gets painted as crackpot again. Wouldn't want to frighten the sheeple, would we?

  51. Gosh! I sure hope they never find out about by mark_reh · · Score: 1

    monatomic gold! That stuff makes red mercury look like candy!

  52. If I were from Islamic State ... by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 1

    ... I would go for Cold Fusion instead

    I mean, if I were to waste my time hunting down non-existing red mercury I might as well waste my time better by chasing down an equally non-existing cold fusion

    If I were to get Red Mercury what the fuck am I going to do with it, other than a few spectacular ' KA-BOOM '?

    But if I were to get my hands on Cold Fusion that really works, I would be the one controlling the world's endless supply of the much needed energy that this world is hungry for

    What better way to force the world bows down before me, huh?

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    1. Re:If I were from Islamic State ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... I would go for Cold Fusion instead

      After reading the story on Slashdot a couple days ago about FBI entrapment of "terrorists", I got to thinking what I would do if the FBI ever got interested in me. Given that I have a family to support, realistically I'd lawyer up and then give the FBI the minimum required amount of cooperation.

      But if I didn't have a family to support, and I really just didn't care, then I'd try to get the FBI to help me develop my super-weapon based on something like Red Mercury - but I would only accept help from reasonably attractive female (undercover) FBI agents in proper "Princess of Doom" attire (Prince Lea style metal bikinis). I, of course, would be the "Emperor of Doom" myself.

      The trick would be to convince the FBI that I might actually have invented some sort of super weapon. Cold fusion wouldn't work: it's been too thoroughly debunked to be taken seriously. Red Mercury, per se, also wouldn't work because of its reputation as a fraud. Instead, I would have to choose something exotic and new - that seemed a bit scary - nanotechnology or genome sequencing, perhaps.

      And then I would try to get the FBI help me raise money to further develop my new super weapon. Ideally, I'd be able to convince the undercover FBI agents to be actresses in a late night infomercial selling some sort of bizarre sex toy. In Harry Potter, Lord Voldemort would summon his followers to come to him with a special tattoo. Ideally, I'd be able to rig up some sort of wireless vibrating panties to summon my Princesses of Doom to come to me.

      In a world where 20,000 children a day die of poverty, the FBI really needs a sense of perspective on all this "terrorism" nonsense.

    2. Re:If I were from Islamic State ... by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      But if I were to get my hands on Cold Fusion that really works, I would be the one controlling the world's endless supply of the much needed energy that this world is hungry for

      What better way to force the world bows down before me, huh?

      they already do control a significant portion of the worlds supply of energy.

    3. Re:If I were from Islamic State ... by tibit · · Score: 1

      Never mind finally giving some substance to the "islamic science is the foundation of our modern world" myth.

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  53. They should check out by rossdee · · Score: 4, Funny

    the nearest Ford/Lincoln car dealer

  54. Star wars missile defense by goombah99 · · Score: 2

    Or it's like how the star wars missile defense project was supposed to work, billions spent and nothing happend.

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    1. Re:Star wars missile defense by khasim · · Score: 1

      That was more about paying defense contractors while giving the citizens something to cheer for.

      And by those standards, it was a huge success.

    2. Re:Star wars missile defense by MikeMo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, that was about convincing the Russians it would work, and then they would bankrupt themselves trying to keep up. So, yeah, that worked.

    3. Re:Star wars missile defense by JoeMerchant · · Score: 3, Interesting

      When you spend Billions, stuff happens. One thing that came out of Star Wars was new buildings on University campuses, mostly devoted to Physics and Engineering. After those buildings were built in the 1980s, lots of theoretical research was done in the 1990s. And in the 2010s we actually have field deployable, military rail guns that are pretty damn impressive. Kinetic weapons so powerful that they don't need explosives. Are any orbiting the earth as part of an ICBM defense system? I would hope that if they are, we are capable of keeping that a secret.

    4. Re: Star wars missile defense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, the idea of surviving a counterstrike is soo attractive. we need more fear, more instability, more nuclear backed paranoia.

      NOT

    5. Re:Star wars missile defense by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Well, nothing aside from convincing the USSR to spend so much on defence that their economy collapsed, shortly followed by their political system.

      Oh, and those intelligence agencies that are now crying for a greater ability to spy on us so that they can protect us from terrorists? They were completely surprised and thought that the collapse of the USSR was a hoax.

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    6. Re:Star wars missile defense by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      And in the 2010s we actually have field deployable, military rail guns that are pretty damn impressive.

      No we don't. De have a few very impressive demo models, but there are still huge problems like excessive barrel wear. Like so excessive it needs a rebuild after every shot.

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    7. Re:Star wars missile defense by RuffMasterD · · Score: 2

      I doubt it. That sounds like political ass covering. Communism had run out of steam of its own accord by the late 80s. Poland democratically elected a non-communist president. Hungary tore down their fence with Austria (yeah, I know...). East Germany could no longer convince its own citizens that the Berlin wall for their own protection. Romania simply executed its communist leader. Admittedly, that might have had something to do with austerity. Bulgarias communist leader stepped down voluntarily without major incident. These people didn't care about some missile defense system. They simply wanted democracy, freedom, and no more oppression. Many great scientific and technological advances were made during the cold war for sure (SAGE is particularly impressive), but the missile defense system or the supposed bankruptcy of the Soviet Union were not amongst them.

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    8. Re:Star wars missile defense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And even if none were deployed, the kinetic weapon concept justified the GI Joe: Retaliation movie.

      Sometimes a plausible enough story acts as a deterrent.

    9. Re:Star wars missile defense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except of course that's not really why the soviet union collapsed. We spend half our budget on defense and were not collapsing.

    10. Re:Star wars missile defense by MikeMo · · Score: 1

      One can find plenty of arguments and lots of scholarly papers written that are both for and against SDI and Reagan's impact on the USSR. I suppose it partly depends on which way one leans, doesn't it? Anyway, here's a nice article summing things up over at the WSJ. I think anyone denying that SDI was at least an accelerating factor is really just sticking his head in the sand. :)

  55. Modern-day Philosopher's Stone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the same kind of persistent wishful thinking that has afflicted mankind throughout the ages, except instead of using the Philosopher's Stone to turn lead into gold and gain economic power, the dream for some folks is military-power.

    "OK, it sounds too good to be true... But what if it isn't! What if I could have it!?"

  56. Keep the bugs away - diatomaceous earth. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now that's a superweapon!

  57. We're just making our small business... by grfrkr · · Score: 1

    We're just making our small business by pulling money from these idiots and their sponsors.
    Possibly you know, previously we offered Lapis Philosophorum.

  58. What color is anti-matter? by ka9dgx · · Score: 1

    Have you ever asked yourself what color anti-mercury would be?

    1. Re:What color is anti-matter? by Michael+Woodhams · · Score: 1

      Antimatter and matter react in the same way with photons, so in the wildly unlikely event that you could produce and collect an observable quantity of anti-mercury and then observe it, it would look like mercury.

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    2. Re:What color is anti-matter? by ka9dgx · · Score: 1

      But... what if the secret people with secret lab stuff already did it, and it is red? or maybe anti-oxygen has a red hue for some odd reason?

    3. Re:What color is anti-matter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      anti-silver?

  59. Who cares.... by meglon · · Score: 1

    ... if they get red mercury, we still have Bruce Willis, John Malkovich, Mary-Louise Parker, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Lee Byung-hun, and Helen Mirren... we can just send them in to kick their asses. We could call it RED 3, although we'd have to actually call it a "reboot" of RED 2, and i'd hate to see the actors they go with this time around. Bruce WIllis.... ain't nothing going to get to us... red mercury, asteroids the size of Texarse... nothing!

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  60. Re:Sexual enhancement by 12WTF$ · · Score: 2

    What is it with these dune coon jihadis?

    What is it with that hair, Donald?

    It's RED MERCURY powered hair, derrrr.

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  61. US and Soviet Intelligence quest for psychotics by deodiaus2 · · Score: 1

    Probably we'd die of laughter if it wasn't "our" money, but the US and Soviets spent huge amounts of money trying to find and control psychotic weapons. One plausible sounding idea was "remote reading". After all, if you could read cards, then why not read "intelligence" documents. I guess Yuri Geller said that he could ready Soviet intelligence on their psychotic weapons research and would suggest further avenues of research. Now, don't these "investigation" have to be scrutinized by experts in a field. Otherwise, there would be an army of people trying all sorts of shit.
    The biggest example of bogus science was at Harvard, when the world's leading brain surgeons decided to lobotomize J.F. Kennedy's sister Rosemary. Now, the two biggest problems are that the Kennedy's had access to money and were not morons.

    1. Re:US and Soviet Intelligence quest for psychotics by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      And we were supposed to absolutely know this wouldn't work...why? There's no current scientific framework that would explain or predict its possibility, but when there's been a long history of people doing something there may be something to it. It's not that much more far-fetched than acupuncture.

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  62. Re:Sexual enhancement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will it explode?

  63. At least they don't want Unobtanium by ChesterRafoon · · Score: 1

    Because then we would be truly fucked. Unobtanium pisses down on Red Mercury from a very great height.

  64. Psychotic weapons? by colinrichardday · · Score: 1

    What are psychotic weapons? Or did you mean "psychic"?

  65. It powers Donald Trump's hair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now THAT's powerful!

  66. I got your Red Mercury right here! by Zenjamin · · Score: 2

    I got your Red Mercury right here! I mean, not here now. I have it, I just need some time to deliver.

    1. Re:I got your Red Mercury right here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it would be very helpful if they could send you the small sum of TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS via bank wire so that you can arrange delivery. After all, it is not easy to move such important items out of Nigeria on short notice!

  67. It's a scam! by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

    I wonder if all those people in pursuit of 72 virgins realize that souls don't have dicks?

    --
    Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
  68. John Dee by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

    I first read about this when researching John Dee...red mercury was part of his alchemy work on the Philosopher's Stone. That was over 400 years ago, far older than the NYT's claims of "around the time of the Cold War".

  69. Formula for red mercury by nikkipolya · · Score: 1

    The formulation for red mercury can be found in the koran - The return of the Mahdi, the final defeat of infidels and the end of the world - that's the formula for red mercury. They have been staring at it all along.

  70. In the room beneath the Sphynx! by hooiberg · · Score: 1

    The Sphynx has a room underneath its front paws, dicovered by means or echolocation.
    However, no archeologist has been allowed in, yet.
    Must be because the superweapon is there!

    1. Re:In the room beneath the Sphynx! by meglon · · Score: 2

      However, no archeologist has been allowed in, yet.

      It's just that Egypt wants to maintain security of their grain storage.

      --
      Fascism: An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. See also: NAZI's
  71. The 'intellect' of the Sunni extremists.. by kheldan · · Score: 1

    ..who laughingly refer to themselves as 'Islamic State', is revealed in all it's glory, here: They're idiots. Violent, animalistic, atavistic idiots, but idiots nevertheless. They believe in Fairy Tales, superstitions, and myths. They're not rational in the least. Sadly, they think they're fit to rule over a population, when in reality their 'caliphate' is a bad joke, and they don't posess even a fraction of the intelligence, experience, or restraint to actually create and rule over a productive, modern country. Makes one wonder if they even acknowledge that the world is round, and if they believe the sun revolves around the Earth.

    I heard today an estimate that it might take 20 or 30 years to completely rid the Earth of this particular pestilence of radical 'Islamic' (in quotes because the term only applies to them in the loosest sense of the word imaginable) extremists; I just hope I survive long enough to see the day when the last of them are finally put down.

    --
    Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
    1. Re:The 'intellect' of the Sunni extremists.. by meglon · · Score: 1

      Sadly, they think they're fit to rule over a population, when in reality their 'caliphate' is a bad joke, and they don't posess even a fraction of the intelligence, experience, or restraint to actually create and rule over a productive, modern country.

      That's not what they want. They want the end times. They're the Islamic version of the Christian Revelationists, the ones who want to bring about the end of the world so god will yank the "righteous believers" out of here (naturally they think they're the ones he's going to "save").

      --
      Fascism: An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. See also: NAZI's
    2. Re:The 'intellect' of the Sunni extremists.. by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      They are not really the equivalent, since orthodox Christian theology teaches that Armageddon is not something we can bring about. It will happen when it happens (and the times leading up to it will be pretty horrific, so only an idiot would desire to live in them--repeat, this is the perspective of orthodox Christian theology concerning Armageddon). On the other hand, orthodox Muslim theology teaches that it is every Muslim's duty to do whatever he can to bring about Armageddon (although various strains suggest that, if you are not living in the times leading up to Armageddon it is OK to live a peaceful life) and that Armageddon is something which can be hurried.

      --
      The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
    3. Re:The 'intellect' of the Sunni extremists.. by mvdwege · · Score: 1

      Actually, all the apocalyptic ranting, the horrid executions and the terrorist attacks abroad are PR. What ISIS is, is the Sunni Arabs who were kicked out of Baghdad, and what they want is simple: their 'rightful' position on top of the power pyramid back.

      --
      "I know I will be modded down for this": where's the option '-1, Asking for it'?
    4. Re:The 'intellect' of the Sunni extremists.. by meglon · · Score: 1

      http://www.hoover.org/research...

      There's been quite a few articles very recently about several of the "organizers" in ISIS, and their pushing of the "end times" dogma. They do include a lot of the Sunni who were basically thrown out of the Iraqi military when Bush disbanded it.... apparently they had to have something to do, and lets face it, ISIS is a group that the worst of them could probably easily fit in.... but that in larger part is purely because they had to do something to survive once their former meal ticket disappeared; find something to eat or die is a powerful motivator for pretty much everyone.

      --
      Fascism: An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. See also: NAZI's
    5. Re:The 'intellect' of the Sunni extremists.. by meglon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      While Christian revelationists aren't actively trying to bring about the end times as directly as the Islamic ones are, they're certainly not phased by the idea that they'll be horrific times.

      http://www.christianpost.com/topics/end-of-the-world/

      Now, no offense, but this is really a no true scotsman moment. While you may wish no Christian would be pining for the end of the world, it doesn't take more than a few seconds of searching to find innumerable instances where VERY high profile individuals.. and LOTS of them.. are doing exactly that. What you're trying to say is that IF any Christian was wanting the end times, then they're a very fringe small group... at the same time ALL Muslims want to actively cause the end times... and that's nothing more than another "us good, them bad" shlock.

      What we see here in the US, and it's very very easy to see, is a whole lot of high profile, VERY influential people in positions of power, who use and abuse religion so they themselves can have power.... and a whole lot of willfully blind people enabling them. You look at some of the current and past presidential candidates on the right, and you know that any number of them wouldn't hesitate to murder thousands or even hundreds of thousands of people in other countries for no real reason.... and yes, that's one of those "ripped from the headlines" based on the reality of 2003 on observations. When Bush said "God wants me to..." that was not followed with "be a peaceful person."

      --
      Fascism: An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. See also: NAZI's
    6. Re:The 'intellect' of the Sunni extremists.. by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      I did not say that no Christian would be pining for the end of the world (as a matter of fact, Christians should be doing so). I said that orthodox Christian theology holds that nothing we do can bring it about. On the other hand, orthodox Muslim theology holds that it is the duty of every Muslim to attempt to bring about the end of the world.

      There exist fringe Christians who believe that they can bring about the end of the world, just as there are fringe Muslims who believe that it is not their job to do so. The difference being which group is the fringe.

      --
      The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
    7. Re:The 'intellect' of the Sunni extremists.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven ...

      Has it never occurred to you that the End Times are what you are asking for every time you say The Lord's Prayer? When his kingdom comes on earth as in heaven, it will be after Armageddon.

      I would agree with you that the majority of Christians may not be actively agitating for Armageddon. Yet many of them are actively praying for what comes after. And the only way to get there is to go through it.

    8. Re:The 'intellect' of the Sunni extremists.. by kheldan · · Score: 1

      I'm with you on that. Most religion these days is just a way for a few charsimatic, influential people to gain power over large groups of people who are predisposed to be led.. and by definition, most religions don't encourage 'questioning' anything about the religion, especially it's leaders. I think it's especially true in the case of these Sunni extremists who laughingly call themselves the 'Islamic State'. I've heard more than one Muslim person say that these assholes are not in any way actual Muslims, because a real Muslim wouldn't do these things. It's just another excuse for a power-grab, under the false flag of 'Allah's Will'.

      --
      Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
    9. Re:The 'intellect' of the Sunni extremists.. by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      IIRC, Judgment Day is supposed to come upon you unaware, according to Jesus, like a thief in the night.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    10. Re: The 'intellect' of the Sunni extremists.. by mvdwege · · Score: 1

      That's an awful article. It takes ISIS' words at face value, with a one line sop to the contrary at the end.

      --
      "I know I will be modded down for this": where's the option '-1, Asking for it'?
  72. Ob: homeopathy by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

    And just as available is its organic (and thus far more potent) analog, hydrogen hydroxide.

    It's much more effective if you dilute in one to a million with water.

    --
    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    1. Re:Ob: homeopathy by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Hydroxylic acid is an even better solvent.

      --
      General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
  73. Isotopic Tracer for the double win by Martin+S. · · Score: 1

    Making sure to make the tracer Isotopic for the double win, trigger a Geiger counter to convince them this is real and make it easier to track.

    http://www.britannica.com/scie...

  74. No wonder they're not letting anyone in! by denzacar · · Score: 1

    That must be a very tiny room..
    No way any full grown human can fit in there.
    Now... mice-archeologist might be able to fit in there, but there are other obvious issues with that solution as well.

    --
    Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
  75. Red Mercury its a good thing by mlush · · Score: 2

    Terrorist money spent on Red Mercury is money not being spend on bombs and bullets. Perhaps more time should be spend debunking the debunkers :-)

  76. Re:Quick, someone sell them a thermometer for $500 by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

    The red ones are alcohol based. They put red dye in it because clear alcohol in clear glass is kind of hard to see.

    I've got an old mercury thermometer and the contents is a silvery liquid (i.e. mercury).

    --
    SJW n. One who posts facts.
  77. NY times dribble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Unfortunately the NY Times again is trying to downplay ISIS as a stupid bunch of thugs who can't possible be a threat. The real story is ISIS has some real significant money to work with to buy real and significant weapons and we should not underestimate their abilities to gain access to them. It seems the liberal media keeps making excuses for Obama and I thought the whole premise of ISIS being a JV squad was long since dispelled. I'm sure the people in Paris know this now.

  78. Conflation of white and red phosphorous? by swb · · Score: 1

    White phosphorous is used in munitions, including the controversial "whiskey pete" anti-personnel explosives. Red phosphorous is the source for phosphine, a toxic gas used as a fumigant.

    OK, neither one is mercury or a radionuclide, but one is red, one is a weapon, and phosphine could be used as WMD.

     

  79. We've been working with this for some time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know what those Daishts' problem is. This substance, Red Mercury (Romeo Mike or RM for short) has been known for some time to a group I'm working with.

    It requires both some alchemist techniques as well as some relativistic effects to bring this substance into existence, but nothing not achievable with century-old tech.

    The basic requirement is that you have a quantity of lead of around 100 grains or more in mass. This needs to travel at a velocity of around -800 feet per second (or less). That is all that is required to turn the lead into this substance.

    * Yes, that negative sign in front of the velocity is exactly right. For those not too familiar with vector arithmetic, it means if it is traveling at a velocity of that magnitude, but directly towards the observer, it turns into RM during this travel - but only for the observer!

    The only remaining problem our research team is struggling with is to make the transition from lead to mercury permanent. So far only the red color persists once the material sample comes to rest again.

  80. No strategy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only reason ISIS is looking for "Red Mercury" is because ISIS didn't really have the strategy for success.
    ISIS assumed that US, Russia and NATO will ignore them until they gather enough strength to make attacking them too costly.
    They had no backup plan for when they are not ignored.
    So, they are trying anything now as the backup plan.
    It's not that different from Germans trying to build V-weapons during WW2.

  81. I blame JJ by Culture20 · · Score: 1

    That horrible Star Trek reboot with the red matter must recently have made its way to ISIS computers.

  82. It's a person. by sabbede · · Score: 1
    Well, was a person. He was orphaned at an early age and died in 1963, that much we know for sure. What we don't know for sure is where he died - reports placed him outside Houston, killed by a drunk driver; in Bern, drowning in the Aare; or a small plane crash somewhere between Australia and New Guinea. His body was either lost at sea, or buried near his hometown of Lodi New Jersey in a grave marked Kyle Stevens, a boy he knew from the orphanage.

    There is a body in the grave, but there are no known samples of his DNA (or Kyle's) to test against so the identity of the body is uncertain.

    The nature of the work he did during the war is likewise unknown. As is why he, a civilian, arrived in the Ardennes in early December 1944, but whatever he was doing there had Germany worried enough to launch a major offensive for the sole purpose of capturing him alive, now known as "The Battle of the Bulge".

  83. We should encourage them by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    For obvious reasons.

    --
    deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
  84. Isn't it obvious? by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

    What can account for the enduring myth of Red Mercury — is it rampant scientific illiteracy, the power of urban legend and shared myth, or something else?

    It's because it sounds a bit like fReddie Mercury.

  85. Dont understand the sexual potency bit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    unless you can take it with you to Jihadi heaven its not going to be of any use to you with those 72 rasins!

  86. crazy people by dingleberrie · · Score: 1

    Haha. What idiots will believe that there's a weapon of mass destruction in that area that they need to find?

  87. In the Mercury Domain anti-color of Red is Blues.. by tomwrake · · Score: 1
    Cruse on down that road.,,,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  88. agencies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    western agencies should try to sell them "red mercury" ie. metallic natrium or potassium or silver acetylide.
    Double profit: get some of the terrorists' money and get them burned.

  89. Excellent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The more money and resources they spend on chasing something that doesn't exist, the less money and resources are available for actual acts of terror. Keep them in the dark!

  90. They're getting close by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

    Whatever we do, we must not let ISIS find out that Ann Coulter has the secret to achieving a working Red Mercury weapon.

  91. fREDdy Mercury by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's the only Mercury I worship.

  92. Did JJ Abrams think of this first? by peter303 · · Score: 1

    Sounds a like Red Matter in His first Star Trek movie.

  93. So wait..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When terrorists do it, they are ignorant.

    When the US does it, they are fighting for Western freedom?

    1. Re:So wait..... by craigminah · · Score: 1

      The US isn't perfect but tries to do what's good for her and Western civilization while the terrorists kill, maim, rape, torture, and otherwise make people's lives shorter and more horrific. Do not equate the US with terrorists (though I'm sure the responses below will try).

  94. Sexual enhancement eh? by DrXym · · Score: 1

    Maybe the CIA should whip up a batch of viagra laced with ricin and red dye and distribute it to some of these morons.

  95. ISIS is not true Islam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Other than geographic and ethnic proximity, ISIS follows violent archaic practices not accepted by most of Islam. They disparage the glory of the original Caliphate which did support science and multi-culturalism.

  96. Hafnium-178 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are probably interested in Hafnium-172

    Which is supposed to release energies at orders of magnitude of chemical reactions.

    It also a byproduct of nuclear explosions.

    So why not give them some million degree hot Hf-178 enveloped in a few m^3 if liquid helium?

  97. Re:Sexual enhancement by gaudior · · Score: 1

    If we're lucky.

  98. Coren22 "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!"... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & this (my ware's been verified safe by 1 of the best) http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & this (60++ reputable sources say it's safe too) http://slashdot.org/comments.p... + this (false positives filtering done by my sources for hosts data AND my program too vs. your "MITM" bullshit) http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & lastly this (your lies on AD+DNS I never once said - show us where I did scumbag & YOUR SCREWUPS ON ADMIN PRIVELEGE USE IN MY PROGRAM) http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    * You fucking worm...

    (Why'd you run from those, hmmm?)

    APK

    P.S.=> I am going to annihilate you publicly for those you reprehensible piece of fucking lying malicious libelous trolling trash... apk

    1. Re:Coren22 "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!"... apk by Sardaukar86 · · Score: 1

      P.S.=> I am going to annihilate you publicly for those you reprehensible piece of fucking lying malicious libelous trolling trash... apk

      Bwhahahahahaha! Oh, you *go* girl, you *troll* that bad, bad man!

      There's nothing more pitifully amusing than watching APK hollering away at everyone and everything with his panties up in a big old bunch.

      You've almost become an institution, Slashdot's "Donald Duck" if you like - a highly-strung, pompous twit who explodes into tantrums of quacking and squawking at the slightest hint of provocation.

      Keep up that stalking of yours, it's sure to keep winning you hearts and minds!

      --
      ..Mullah or Pope, Preacher or Poet, who was it wrote: "Give any one species too much rope and they'll fuck it up"?
  99. Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!"... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & this (my ware's been verified safe by 1 of the best) http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & this (60++ reputable sources say it's safe too) http://slashdot.org/comments.p... + this (false positives filtering done by my sources for hosts data AND my program too vs. your "MITM" bullshit) http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & lastly this (your lies on AD+DNS I never once said - show us where I did scumbag & YOUR SCREWUPS ON ADMIN PRIVELEGE USE IN MY PROGRAM) http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    * You fucking worm...

    (Why'd you run from those, hmmm?)

    APK

    P.S.=> I am going to annihilate you publicly for those you reprehensible piece of fucking lying malicious libelous trolling trash... apk

    1. Re:Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!"... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking of delusional idiots...

      Did someone say the forbidden word three times ?

    2. Re:Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!"... apk by Sardaukar86 · · Score: 1

      Did someone say the forbidden word three times ?

      Oh? I must have missed that memo. What is it, something like "fuckwit, fuckwit, fuckwit"?

      --
      ..Mullah or Pope, Preacher or Poet, who was it wrote: "Give any one species too much rope and they'll fuck it up"?
  100. psst... wanna buy a Hafnium isomer raygun? by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    Maybe I should sell the Libyans some of my Corbomite stockpile to fund my time travel experiments.

    --

    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  101. The search begins .... by dasgoober · · Score: 1

    Don't they know that they must first exhume the body of Cobra Commander??

  102. What do you expect ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ISIS is in very large part made out of meth heads:

    here

    Meth heads high on delusions of grandeur are not the most logical minds you will find...

  103. Meh...RM is bogus, I've got just the thing... by AustinSlacker · · Score: 1

    I'll be glad to sell them my spare Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator. I don't use it much anymore.
    What a bunch of idiots...

  104. Red Mercury you say? I've got some... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Send ISIS my way, I'll be glad to take their money. I've got a supply ready to go.

  105. so... no different from SETI and LittleGreenMen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Both are seeking a mythical thing, for the very existence of which there is absolutely no evidence, but which is widely believed in because it has been the subject of endless books, TV shows, movies, legends, rumors or just simply a desperate desire.

    Time and money are better spent in the real world seeking things that actually exist.

  106. Full metal alchemist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any one else thinking philosophers stone from FMA?

  107. Religion by NewYork · · Score: 1

    Religions are ~2000 years old;
    Humans are ~200,000 years old;
    Religion was born when the first con-man met the first fool;

  108. Red Mercury = Cinnabar by MercTech · · Score: 1

    Followed a breadcrumb from one of the news sites on the "Red Mercury" being mentioned in alchemical texts.
        Yep, it is right on target as a reference to the paint pigment "vermilion". When used in traditional carved laquerware from China; it is known as "cinnabar". Red Mercury is mercury sulfide, one of the easiest ores to get elemental mercury from.

        Whomever started the disinformation campaign on the properties of "Red Mercury" should be commended. Good gag there.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinnabar

    --
    NRRPT/RCT
  109. Re:Quick, someone sell them a thermometer for $500 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A thermometer that contains mercury doesn't contain red liquid, and a thermometer that contains red liquid does not contain mercury. The red liquid is usually alcohol with red dye.

  110. Sardaukar86 "eats his words" yet again... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Eating his words vs. me providing yet more evidence of it:

    "you're the pathetic simian who cannot let a comment about your malware go unchallenged - by Sardaukar86 (850333) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @03:57AM (#50899263)

    Your POOR DIET (eating your words) decreased what little brain function you had - Security pros & /.'ers disagree w/ that raving loon rant of yours:

    ---

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit = Safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    So is it's installer per VirScan-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    +

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    ---

    "APK is a one-trick-pony with only hosts-file manipulation to his name, a technique that was rightfully deposed in the 90's" - by Sardaukar86 (850333) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @03:57AM (#50899263)

    Noted security pros disagree & on "1 trick pony" your big mouth has allowed me to RAM that right back down your throat in my p.s. below:

    ---

    Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET says hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

    Oliver Day (Symantec) does-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

    ---

    * Sardaukar86 - thank you: YOU ARE GOOD @ FAILING vs. myself!

    (QUESTION: HOW DOES IT TASTE "eating your words" now that you've stuck your foot in your mouth YET AGAIN vs. me (lol), & rammed them down your throat, washing them down with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat"?)

    APK

    P.S.=> You're DYING OF MALNUTRITION (lol)- > 244++:1 in MY favor-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment... ) & on "1 trick pony" in things you'll NEVER do I have too http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - Do yourself a favor & CHANGE YOUR DIET: Eating your words != GOOD NUTRITION!

    ... apk

  111. LOL: Sardaukar86 "eats his words" YET again... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "APK is a one-trick-pony with only hosts-file manipulation to his name" - by Sardaukar86 (850333) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:15AM (#50899307)

    Per a quote from your loon rant: Have you done better, earlier, & more of these things Sardaukar86 in computing?

    ----

    Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61

    (&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)

    PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there

    PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there

    CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there

    GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it

    HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!

    Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...

    Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn... for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com...

    It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them code for how to do Process Priority Control @ the GUI usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 level in their program (good one too), & being credited for it by their lead dev & his team... see here -> http://ultradefrag.sourceforge... or here http://sourceforge.net/tracker...

    Which ended up fixing a "bug" for them later, here -> http://sourceforge.net/p/ultra... via its implementation (partially, NOT fully implemented yet as I outline it & use in my applications such as this one -> http://www.start64.com/index.p...

    ---

    * You WISH you were me, but you're just a "ne'er-do-well" bigmouth... lmao!

    (QUESTION: HOW DOES IT TASTE "eating your words" now that you've stuck your foot in your mouth YET AGAIN vs. me (lol), & rammed them down your throat, washing them down with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat"?)

    APK

    P.S.=> You're going to DIE OF MALNUTRITION if you keep this up (lol) - > 244++:1 in MY favor vs. your big mouth-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment... ) & here too http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - so do yourself a favor & CHANGE YOUR DIET: Eating your words != GOOD NUTRITION... lol!

    ... apk

  112. Sardaukar86 dies of malnutrition (lol)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "your 'programs' are viewed with well-justified suspicion and mistrust" - by Sardaukar86 (850333) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:24AM (#50899343)

    Per the quote of your raving loon rants: Security Pros & /.'ers disagree:

    ---

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

    ---

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit = Safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    So is it's installer per VirScan-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    * :)

    You WISH you were me, but you're just too damn STUPID to be in my league... lmao!

    (I sincerely hope all New Zealanders aren't like you - big mouthed morons who constantly have to "eat their words"... tell us, won't you, HOW DO THEY TASTE now that you've stuck your foot in your mouth YET AGAIN vs. me (lol), & rammed them down your throat, washing them down with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat"?)

    APK

    P.S.=> This dietary issue of yours is by NO means a 1st for you vs. myself either (244++:1 in MY favor vs. your big mouth-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment... ) - so do yourself a favor & CHANGE YOUR DIET: Eating your words != GOOD NUTRITION... lol!

    ... apk

  113. Sardaukar86 "eats his words" again... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Eating his words vs. me providing yet more evidence of it:

    "you're the pathetic simian who cannot let a comment about your malware go unchallenged - by Sardaukar86 (850333) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @03:57AM (#50899263)

    Your POOR DIET (eating your words) decreased what little brain function you had - Security pros & /.'ers disagree w/ that raving loon rant of yours:

    ---

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit = Safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    So is it's installer per VirScan-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    +

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    ---

    "APK is a one-trick-pony with only hosts-file manipulation to his name, a technique that was rightfully deposed in the 90's" - by Sardaukar86 (850333) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @03:57AM (#50899263)

    Noted security pros disagree & on "1 trick pony" your big mouth has allowed me to RAM that right back down your throat in my p.s. below:

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    Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET says hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

    Oliver Day (Symantec) does-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

    ---

    * Sardaukar86 - thank you: YOU ARE GOOD @ FAILING vs. myself!

    (QUESTION: HOW DOES IT TASTE "eating your words" now that you've stuck your foot in your mouth YET AGAIN vs. me (lol), & rammed them down your throat, washing them down with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat"?)

    APK

    P.S.=> You're DYING OF MALNUTRITION (lol)- > 244++:1 in MY favor-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment... ) & on "1 trick pony" in things you'll NEVER do I have too http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - Do yourself a favor & CHANGE YOUR DIET: Eating your words != GOOD NUTRITION!

    ... apk

  114. LOL: Sardaukar86 "eats his words" YET again... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "APK is a one-trick-pony with only hosts-file manipulation to his name" - by Sardaukar86 (850333) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:15AM (#50899307)

    Per a quote from your loon rant: Have you done better, earlier, & more of these things Sardaukar86 in computing?

    ----

    Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61

    (&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)

    PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there

    PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there

    CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there

    GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it

    HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!

    Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...

    Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn... for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com...

    It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them code for how to do Process Priority Control @ the GUI usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 level in their program (good one too), & being credited for it by their lead dev & his team... see here -> http://ultradefrag.sourceforge... or here http://sourceforge.net/tracker...

    Which ended up fixing a "bug" for them later, here -> http://sourceforge.net/p/ultra... via its implementation (partially, NOT fully implemented yet as I outline it & use in my applications such as this one -> http://www.start64.com/index.p...

    ---

    * You WISH you were me, but you're just a "ne'er-do-well" bigmouth... lmao!

    (QUESTION: HOW DOES IT TASTE "eating your words" now that you've stuck your foot in your mouth YET AGAIN vs. me (lol), & rammed them down your throat, washing them down with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat"?)

    APK

    P.S.=> You're going to DIE OF MALNUTRITION if you keep this up (lol) - > 244++:1 in MY favor vs. your big mouth-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment... ) & here too http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - so do yourself a favor & CHANGE YOUR DIET: Eating your words != GOOD NUTRITION... lol!

    ... apk

  115. Sardaukar86's dies of malnutrition (lol)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "your 'programs' are viewed with well-justified suspicion and mistrust" - by Sardaukar86 (850333) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:24AM (#50899343)

    Per the quote of your raving loon rants: Security Pros & /.'ers disagree:

    ---

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

    ---

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit = Safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    So is it's installer per VirScan-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    * :)

    You WISH you were me, but you're just too damn STUPID to be in my league... lmao!

    (I sincerely hope all New Zealanders aren't like you - big mouthed morons who constantly have to "eat their words"... tell us, won't you, HOW DO THEY TASTE now that you've stuck your foot in your mouth YET AGAIN vs. me (lol), & rammed them down your throat, washing them down with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat"?)

    APK

    P.S.=> This dietary issue of yours is by NO means a 1st for you vs. myself either (244++:1 in MY favor vs. your big mouth-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment... ) - so do yourself a favor & CHANGE YOUR DIET: Eating your words != GOOD NUTRITION... lol!

    ... apk