Let us not forget the lesson here: Murder is a good tool for accomplishing your ends. That principle is what Bin Laden was wanted for, and that principle is what we are supposed to celebrate. Make no mistake. This was an act of cold blooded murder. So how are we any much better than Bin Laden? By the way, we've known about this hide out since last summer. What took so long? I can just imagine what concessions we have now given the Saudis for us to get their permission to take out their boy. And/or perhaps Bin Laden suspected that we knew, and was getting ready to move. So we had to pull the trigger now, rather than waiting for the optimum moment for our sitting president to use this to get re-elected. I am not saying that to slam Obama. No, I don't much care one way or the other about Obama. He's about the same as Bush in my eyes. I am slamming a system and its acolytes that treat the cold blooded murder of another human being as political capitol.
Look friend. You may think that you know what's going on in the world. I know I don't know. I don't think you do either. Instead of believing the BS we are all fed, I keep my eyes peeled for the little clues that let me know that my skepticism is justified. Here's one for you, NY person. Look at the site plan of the old World Trade Center. See all of the hundreds of buildings nearby the twin towers. Now look where Building 7 is. Waay over there. OK, so how is it that the impacts of the airliners and the burning jet fuel took down the twin towers, didn't take down any of those closer buildings, but somehow, magically took down Building 7? ("Closer buildings": I am referring to all the buildings that are not part of the WTC, but are still much, much closer to the twin towers than Building 7.) Look at the site plan! It just doesn't wash. We've been lied to about Building 7. If we have been lied to about Building 7, what other lies are we being fed? I figure just about everything. That's why I don't celebrate on queue. That's why I don't celebrate anyone being murdered. I KNOW I'M BEING LIED TO, AND I FUCKING DON'T LIKE IT!!! You want to feel some righteous anger? Get mad about that, sir.
You take what is actually a very subtle question and reduce it to absurdity. Let's consider a modern, say, executive at a large corporation. That person barely works at all, (compared to, say, a bricklayer), and yet receives a very large salary. Now it sounds intuitively sensible to claim that he or she deserves to keep every dollar he or she has earned, but the fact is that such a person is the benefactor of thousands of years of labor by thousands of others. It is not as though he or she went out and created the entire infrastructure in which their company operates with their bare hands. No, they happened to be the right person in the right place, and stepped in to a very sweet position. The great thing is that it is not necessary to confiscate the executive's earnings by taxation, to ensure that the rest of humanity, less fortunate, receive their fair share of the largess of modern culture. It's all in my sig.
No, sir, you are missing the forest for the trees. The solution to end the $1.6T deficit is to stop paying the credit tax. "What's that?" you say. It is the interest on the $14T we already owe. Not only the interest on the $14T, but, even more critical, the cycles of boom and bust that make business very difficult to plan for; that make it very difficult to justify investment in industry when no one can count on the market. How does our credit based monetary system cause booms and busts? Are you sure you want the red pill? Most money is created out of nothing by private banks. The money is created when a loan is made, and then destroyed when the loan is paid back. Only there is a problem with that: the money that is created can be paid back, but no money is created to pay the interest. So, to bolster business, banks go on runs, where they keep loaning more and more: the minute it's paid back, it goes right back out the door in the form of another, larger loan. This run continues until the most powerful banks figure that if they pull the plug *now*, many of their competitors will be crippled or destroyed. Then they pull the plug, by simply refusing to make more loans. Bust time. Truly, the name of the beast is Fractional Reserve Banking!
Read the previous comment. The law enforcement community is more evil than any criminal could ever hope to be. Maybe it hasn't always been that way, and, sure their are isolated pockets of, eh, more or less honorable people still in law enforcement, but in general, its the most disgusting cesspool imaginable.
The economy? Really? The economy of a nation $14T in debt? No, I don't think the economy means shit to these vultures. They all know that the whole thing is going to go belly up sometime in the next 20 years, so every jackal is scurrying to get every last gobbet of meat from the rotten corpse. Us stupid fucks stand around with our thumbs up our asses and whine about it, so nothing changes. Hell, most of us are stupider than you even.
Yeah, this is what kills me when I read things like polls asking "When MS stops supporting XP, what will you do?" As if we had any choice. We don't. The MS hegemony is alive, well, and, despite notable lack of progress in the new versions, in no danger of losing it's death grip on American business. We're fucked.
No fucking way will that ever happen. Those are precisely the sorts of classes we do not want kids to take. Those classes demand that one think. They teach one to think about thinking. People who think, and think about thinking, do not make "good" consumers.
>> WTF is wrong with us.
Fucking stupid! Hello? WE ARE FUCKING STUPID. What else do you need to know? Only not all of us are fucking stupid. The top 10% are not fucking stupid. So, the only way we are going to progress is if an IQ test is required for voters, and then each person's vote is weighted by their IQ. Heavily weighted! Very heavily weighted, so that it takes 10,000 people of average intelligence to countermand 1 vote of someone with an IQ of 160. Not a perfect system, but it would be much better than what we have.
It *is* the same everywhere. That's what history has been all about for the last 200 years. Read C. H. Douglas, and understand what is really going on! Only problem is that once you do, you become the guy with x-ray vision in the kingdom of the blind. It's very lonely indeed!
That's funny how you folks in Denmark have stuff like justice and policies that are helpful to individuals and stuff. How quaint. I sure am glad we don't breed a bunch of weaklings in the US by having pillowy soft government like that. Here you sink or swim. Keeps us strong and stuff. It's not always pretty, but it's got to be that way or we'd be all happy and stuff. No future in that, you know what I'm saying.
You seem very motivated to help people. Good for you, but you need better understanding of the world's evil, if you are to succeed. Check out my sig. It links to the work of a man named Clifford Hugh Douglas. He figured out the whole problem and what to do about it. Would you like to know Satan's name? It is: Fractional Reserve Banking. If you don't understand why I say that, your projects to help people are doomed to, at best, irrelevance.
On the other hand, with enough people who understand Douglas' work, we could end most human suffering.
Religious beliefs? Meh. OK, sure, just as soon as I see a religious person respecting other religious beliefs. Ha-ha.
Oh yeah, and what about the children. They don't have any stinking religious beliefs. But do they get any respect? Hell, no. "Come on Timmy, it's time for Sunday School."
Here's the take from a DeVry graduate, (B.S. Computer Information Systems, Summa Cum Laude, Outstanding Student in Major): A nearly complete waste of time and money.
Mr. DeVry had a good idea. Start a college to teach electronics along with the liberal arts courses necessary to earn an accredited bachelor's degree, with this twist: Instead of "professors" the electronics courses would be taught by industry professionals earning extra money by teaching at night. He supposed that the advantage of using industry pros would be that they would provide students more of a real world point of view, like getting on the job training while at school. It worked well for the electronics students, so the organization grew. That's when the problems started.
My IT "industry pros" were a complete bunch of losers who couldn't get hired as engineers at real software companies if their lives depended on it. One of the few instructors who was not actually a loser taught "systems analysis". He was one of the stars of the DeVry Fremont faculty because he had a successful career at Sun. Only he has never analyzed a system in his life. He is a bus. major whose role at Sun was to do "team leading" or whatever the latest buzzword is for the guy who knows jack about tech, but is charismatic enough to keep a room full of engineers more or less on project when they have a meeting or whatever they're calling meetings this year. His lectures were interesting because we learned how to use buzzwords to sound smart, and how office politics can play out, but we learned NOTHING about systems analysis.
So, I learned nothing useful at DeVry except stuff I taught myself while working on projects I devised, and that if you need to know something, you can usually find it in Google if your google-fu is strong, and you don't give up. That's about it. I am now the head IT guy at a bio-tech start-up with multi-billion dollar potential, and thanks to that may well get very rich doing IT, but I owe my father for this situation, because he sent me to a fancy boarding school for high school where I met the founder of my company. I owe DeVry a kick in the nuts, and a lot of money to the feds.
BTW, while I was there, I observed the electronics guys and gals getting what they claimed was a pretty good tech education. I recommend DeVry to someone interested in electronics, but the rest of their programs are a joke.
"Period" my ass! Global warming is a red herring promoted by the very people you accuse of engineering its denial. Huh? Let me explain. The problem despite all that you *believe* is not global warming. Not at all. The problem is that we need to start, right fucking now, building all the mountains of new infrastructure to replace our reliance on carbon based fuels.
But we have not started and we will not start, not for a long time. Not until we are desperate for the replacement and then, guess what? It will be too late. Not because of global fucking warming, but because building that infrastructure will require lots and lots of carbon fuel, and by then it will be too expensive. Result: massive human die off.
Sadly enough that is just what some people want. They want the die off, and unless and until we wake up and realize that it is not global warming that we need to argue about, but instead what we need to do is mobilize right now to avoid the "energy cul-de-sac" I have just described. And apologies to my libertarian friends, but this is a textbook example of exactly why the free market sometimes will fail utterly. The market is guaranteed to drive us right into the cul-de-sac.
Your thinking is stuck in the "Capitalism" - "Socialism" cul-de-sac. There is another answer. It is called Social Credit, and it answers all these questions and solves all of our problems. Only thing stopping it is that it will put some parasites out of business. Very powerful parasites who, while not all that smart, have pretty successfully managed to keep the vast majority mired in the same cul-de-sac from which I just freed you. Check my sig if you don't believe me.
You are exactly 100% right on the money. Only thing is you're about 90 years late. C. H. Douglas figured all this and much more out back in 1924. The powers that be have been doing their damnedest to suppress his findings ever since. Fortunately the truth routes around damage. Congrats! BTW, if you're interested my sig has the link.
We use Vipre. It's about as good as the rest in catching malware, and it slows down the computers less than anybody. Installs (and uninstalls!) are a breeze. Winner!
You sir need to get hep to Social Credit. Almost 100 years ago a genius named Clifford Hugh Douglas had this all figured out, plus what to do about it. Google and read - you'll be amazed!
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>> celebrate this asshole's death.
Let us not forget the lesson here: Murder is a good tool for accomplishing your ends. That principle is what Bin Laden was wanted for, and that principle is what we are supposed to celebrate. Make no mistake. This was an act of cold blooded murder. So how are we any much better than Bin Laden? By the way, we've known about this hide out since last summer. What took so long? I can just imagine what concessions we have now given the Saudis for us to get their permission to take out their boy. And/or perhaps Bin Laden suspected that we knew, and was getting ready to move. So we had to pull the trigger now, rather than waiting for the optimum moment for our sitting president to use this to get re-elected. I am not saying that to slam Obama. No, I don't much care one way or the other about Obama. He's about the same as Bush in my eyes. I am slamming a system and its acolytes that treat the cold blooded murder of another human being as political capitol.
Look friend. You may think that you know what's going on in the world. I know I don't know. I don't think you do either. Instead of believing the BS we are all fed, I keep my eyes peeled for the little clues that let me know that my skepticism is justified. Here's one for you, NY person. Look at the site plan of the old World Trade Center. See all of the hundreds of buildings nearby the twin towers. Now look where Building 7 is. Waay over there. OK, so how is it that the impacts of the airliners and the burning jet fuel took down the twin towers, didn't take down any of those closer buildings, but somehow, magically took down Building 7? ("Closer buildings": I am referring to all the buildings that are not part of the WTC, but are still much, much closer to the twin towers than Building 7.) Look at the site plan! It just doesn't wash. We've been lied to about Building 7. If we have been lied to about Building 7, what other lies are we being fed? I figure just about everything. That's why I don't celebrate on queue. That's why I don't celebrate anyone being murdered. I KNOW I'M BEING LIED TO, AND I FUCKING DON'T LIKE IT!!! You want to feel some righteous anger? Get mad about that, sir.
The fair way was idealized in 1924. Check my sig.
You take what is actually a very subtle question and reduce it to absurdity. Let's consider a modern, say, executive at a large corporation. That person barely works at all, (compared to, say, a bricklayer), and yet receives a very large salary. Now it sounds intuitively sensible to claim that he or she deserves to keep every dollar he or she has earned, but the fact is that such a person is the benefactor of thousands of years of labor by thousands of others. It is not as though he or she went out and created the entire infrastructure in which their company operates with their bare hands. No, they happened to be the right person in the right place, and stepped in to a very sweet position. The great thing is that it is not necessary to confiscate the executive's earnings by taxation, to ensure that the rest of humanity, less fortunate, receive their fair share of the largess of modern culture. It's all in my sig.
>> Should wealth be a right?
Not "wealth", but a basic living? Yes. It is easily affordable. My sig tells the story.
No, sir, you are missing the forest for the trees. The solution to end the $1.6T deficit is to stop paying the credit tax. "What's that?" you say. It is the interest on the $14T we already owe. Not only the interest on the $14T, but, even more critical, the cycles of boom and bust that make business very difficult to plan for; that make it very difficult to justify investment in industry when no one can count on the market. How does our credit based monetary system cause booms and busts? Are you sure you want the red pill? Most money is created out of nothing by private banks. The money is created when a loan is made, and then destroyed when the loan is paid back. Only there is a problem with that: the money that is created can be paid back, but no money is created to pay the interest. So, to bolster business, banks go on runs, where they keep loaning more and more: the minute it's paid back, it goes right back out the door in the form of another, larger loan. This run continues until the most powerful banks figure that if they pull the plug *now*, many of their competitors will be crippled or destroyed. Then they pull the plug, by simply refusing to make more loans. Bust time. Truly, the name of the beast is Fractional Reserve Banking!
Read the previous comment. The law enforcement community is more evil than any criminal could ever hope to be. Maybe it hasn't always been that way, and, sure their are isolated pockets of, eh, more or less honorable people still in law enforcement, but in general, its the most disgusting cesspool imaginable.
The economy? Really? The economy of a nation $14T in debt? No, I don't think the economy means shit to these vultures. They all know that the whole thing is going to go belly up sometime in the next 20 years, so every jackal is scurrying to get every last gobbet of meat from the rotten corpse. Us stupid fucks stand around with our thumbs up our asses and whine about it, so nothing changes. Hell, most of us are stupider than you even.
I'll join. First lawsuit: Microsoft. Not so much for being malware, but for all the other things they do wrong.
But cutting defense projects makes it so much harder to line one's pockets.
You and I are the two smartest people on the planet! I have been saying this for over 5 years now. When did you figure it out?
BTW, there's a lot more to the story than just this - check out my sig...
Yeah, this is what kills me when I read things like polls asking "When MS stops supporting XP, what will you do?" As if we had any choice. We don't. The MS hegemony is alive, well, and, despite notable lack of progress in the new versions, in no danger of losing it's death grip on American business. We're fucked.
No fucking way will that ever happen. Those are precisely the sorts of classes we do not want kids to take. Those classes demand that one think. They teach one to think about thinking. People who think, and think about thinking, do not make "good" consumers.
>> WTF is wrong with us. Fucking stupid! Hello? WE ARE FUCKING STUPID. What else do you need to know? Only not all of us are fucking stupid. The top 10% are not fucking stupid. So, the only way we are going to progress is if an IQ test is required for voters, and then each person's vote is weighted by their IQ. Heavily weighted! Very heavily weighted, so that it takes 10,000 people of average intelligence to countermand 1 vote of someone with an IQ of 160. Not a perfect system, but it would be much better than what we have.
>> It is basically the same everywhere
It *is* the same everywhere. That's what history has been all about for the last 200 years. Read C. H. Douglas, and understand what is really going on! Only problem is that once you do, you become the guy with x-ray vision in the kingdom of the blind. It's very lonely indeed!
That's funny how you folks in Denmark have stuff like justice and policies that are helpful to individuals and stuff. How quaint. I sure am glad we don't breed a bunch of weaklings in the US by having pillowy soft government like that. Here you sink or swim. Keeps us strong and stuff. It's not always pretty, but it's got to be that way or we'd be all happy and stuff. No future in that, you know what I'm saying.
You seem very motivated to help people. Good for you, but you need better understanding of the world's evil, if you are to succeed. Check out my sig. It links to the work of a man named Clifford Hugh Douglas. He figured out the whole problem and what to do about it. Would you like to know Satan's name? It is: Fractional Reserve Banking. If you don't understand why I say that, your projects to help people are doomed to, at best, irrelevance.
On the other hand, with enough people who understand Douglas' work, we could end most human suffering.
Religious beliefs? Meh. OK, sure, just as soon as I see a religious person respecting other religious beliefs. Ha-ha.
Oh yeah, and what about the children. They don't have any stinking religious beliefs. But do they get any respect? Hell, no. "Come on Timmy, it's time for Sunday School."
Here's the take from a DeVry graduate, (B.S. Computer Information Systems, Summa Cum Laude, Outstanding Student in Major): A nearly complete waste of time and money.
Mr. DeVry had a good idea. Start a college to teach electronics along with the liberal arts courses necessary to earn an accredited bachelor's degree, with this twist: Instead of "professors" the electronics courses would be taught by industry professionals earning extra money by teaching at night. He supposed that the advantage of using industry pros would be that they would provide students more of a real world point of view, like getting on the job training while at school. It worked well for the electronics students, so the organization grew. That's when the problems started.
My IT "industry pros" were a complete bunch of losers who couldn't get hired as engineers at real software companies if their lives depended on it. One of the few instructors who was not actually a loser taught "systems analysis". He was one of the stars of the DeVry Fremont faculty because he had a successful career at Sun. Only he has never analyzed a system in his life. He is a bus. major whose role at Sun was to do "team leading" or whatever the latest buzzword is for the guy who knows jack about tech, but is charismatic enough to keep a room full of engineers more or less on project when they have a meeting or whatever they're calling meetings this year. His lectures were interesting because we learned how to use buzzwords to sound smart, and how office politics can play out, but we learned NOTHING about systems analysis.
So, I learned nothing useful at DeVry except stuff I taught myself while working on projects I devised, and that if you need to know something, you can usually find it in Google if your google-fu is strong, and you don't give up. That's about it. I am now the head IT guy at a bio-tech start-up with multi-billion dollar potential, and thanks to that may well get very rich doing IT, but I owe my father for this situation, because he sent me to a fancy boarding school for high school where I met the founder of my company. I owe DeVry a kick in the nuts, and a lot of money to the feds.
BTW, while I was there, I observed the electronics guys and gals getting what they claimed was a pretty good tech education. I recommend DeVry to someone interested in electronics, but the rest of their programs are a joke.
"Period" my ass! Global warming is a red herring promoted by the very people you accuse of engineering its denial. Huh? Let me explain. The problem despite all that you *believe* is not global warming. Not at all. The problem is that we need to start, right fucking now, building all the mountains of new infrastructure to replace our reliance on carbon based fuels.
But we have not started and we will not start, not for a long time. Not until we are desperate for the replacement and then, guess what? It will be too late. Not because of global fucking warming, but because building that infrastructure will require lots and lots of carbon fuel, and by then it will be too expensive. Result: massive human die off.
Sadly enough that is just what some people want. They want the die off, and unless and until we wake up and realize that it is not global warming that we need to argue about, but instead what we need to do is mobilize right now to avoid the "energy cul-de-sac" I have just described. And apologies to my libertarian friends, but this is a textbook example of exactly why the free market sometimes will fail utterly. The market is guaranteed to drive us right into the cul-de-sac.
Yeah, except it *doesn't* need to come from corporate taxes. Follow the link in my sig, learn what I am talking about, and help us educate the rest!
Your thinking is stuck in the "Capitalism" - "Socialism" cul-de-sac. There is another answer. It is called Social Credit, and it answers all these questions and solves all of our problems. Only thing stopping it is that it will put some parasites out of business. Very powerful parasites who, while not all that smart, have pretty successfully managed to keep the vast majority mired in the same cul-de-sac from which I just freed you. Check my sig if you don't believe me.
You are exactly 100% right on the money. Only thing is you're about 90 years late. C. H. Douglas figured all this and much more out back in 1924. The powers that be have been doing their damnedest to suppress his findings ever since. Fortunately the truth routes around damage. Congrats! BTW, if you're interested my sig has the link.
No, actually we have seen that disaster - it's called, wait for it, The War On Drugs.
We use Vipre. It's about as good as the rest in catching malware, and it slows down the computers less than anybody. Installs (and uninstalls!) are a breeze. Winner!
You sir need to get hep to Social Credit. Almost 100 years ago a genius named Clifford Hugh Douglas had this all figured out, plus what to do about it. Google and read - you'll be amazed!