All of which could be said about the biblical Jewish kings. It's funny how quickly you've forgotten the Christian terrorism of the IRA, the KKK, and others.
I lived in the UK for 10 years, and in cannot remember once seeing homeless in the streets. That was some years ago. However, at least in the UK and other civilised countries, there is a decent social welfare program, so far less people are begging. That's just reality.
The enduring memory I have of America was the shock of seeing homeless and beggars in the streets. As a 15 year old, having travelled thru Eurpoe and the UK, the contrast was startling. If you don't notice that in your travels, you must have had your eyes closed
The elephant in the room is the incredibly stupid capitalism idea of relying on never ending growth in a limited environment.
Our planet is giving us lots of warning signs.
If we continue to abuse the environment, and use up precious resources by burning them, dumping rubbish in them and polluting them, there is little hope that nature will not dispassionately reduce our population in some way or other.
If people like Slashdot posters, whom one would assume were of reasonable intelligence, can for example put up arguments, such as "the scientists are corrupted in climate science" , then without awareness of the apparent irony, promote Nuclear because "the scientists say the new reactors are safe" it's cognitive dissonance of the most extreme kind. I've been here long enough (16years) to remember the same denial crew saying solar/battery would never work.:)
The problem is worse in the US, UK and Australia as the denialist propaganda technique is enthusiastically promoted by the Murdoch press, and extensively funded by the Oil companies who have so much to lose. It's also caught on with those who tend to believe conspiracy theories, bringing with it the usual nutbagery.
Consequently, the funding of the development of renewables in those countries is less, let's face it, on the most basic level, renewable energy totally makes sense as an investment in the future of our species.
Several states and countries have already achieved days of total renewable energy use, the Aust state of South Australia has actually generated enough to export power to the grid. With the economies of scale now feeding the rapidly growing home battery market, and home solar we are on the brink of a genuine energy revolution. It's important that we help the poorer countries use renewables rather than fossil fuels at our western rate of use, defeating the reductions we are making.
Hasbara Trolls are generally quite polite at first. They pop up when someone is critical of Israel and it’s policies or interests. They target, write, engage, educate and insult. From my research it seems that there is some kind of hierarchy of trolls, they have leaders who tell them targets and guide them with their spin. Most work voluntarily but some are paid for by wealthy sponsors. They track topical keywords and persons using public websites such as topsy.com. Problems arise if one rejects the explanations being offered by the trolls, then their troll nature becomes apparent very quickly as they resort to Classic insults: Anti-semite, Neo- Nazi, White Supremacist, Holocaust denier Adept with social networks well trained on IT Hasbara trolls use internet alerts to warn them when hot keywords are mentioned. Keywords such as Israel, Jewish, Judaism etc. When those words are mentioned they are alerted and they go to investigate who is talking about what. I have seen this happen many times with Gilad Atzmon, someone will post something from Gilad, shortly afterwards they are bombarded by hasbara trolls. Initially they explain where they had gone wrong and try to ‘educate’ people with their ideology.
Supreme point of view The Hasbara troll knows best Condescending & Patronising Socialist (Smart and ‘caring’) Do not have to be Jewish but Pro-Israel Internet experts Narcissistic Provocative Dis-ruptive Like to ask the questions, not answer questions Control freaks Inflamed by anyone being critical of Israel ‘Moral’ Guardians Classic insults: Anti-semite, Neo- Nazi, White Supremacist, Holocaust denier Adept with social networks well trained on IT Hasbara trolls use internet alerts to warn them when hot keywords are mentioned. Keywords such as Israel, Jewish, Judaism etc. When those words are mentioned they are alerted and they go to investigate who is talking about what. I have seen this happen many times with Gilad Atzmon, someone will post something from Gilad, shortly afterwards they are bombarded by hasbara trolls. Initially they explain where they had gone wrong and try to ‘educate’ people with their ideology. Usually they say something like
Hasbara is an Hebrew word defined as explanation. The purpose of Hasbara is to explain and educate western people about the Israeli mission. Hasbara can take many forms, adverts, websites, comments on blogs, letter writing, protests and so on. For a fuller idea of the depth of Hasbara check this tool-kit from the We Believe in Israel Website. (made by BICOM). The difference between propaganda and hasbara? I would say Hasbara is more of a soft sell at first, it seeks to inform, influence and educate the ignorant to the Israeli cause. The narrative of Hasbara has a victimized quality underpinning it, a very passive-aggressive approach, Israel is always defending not attacking. They play the mis-understood victim and invite their critics to attack them. The sub-current being that Israel’s message is not understood. Israel views that the reason for this is either lack of education or stupidity. So the Hasbara agents explain until they realise that they are getting nowhere and then respond with disdain and
Hasbara Tactics
By controlling information one can control people and the social networks. Hasbara volunteers help to police social networks for Israel. The big media are dealt with through BICOM and AIPAC, whilst the social media are policed unofficially by the Hasbara troll brigade. Priority is to stop influencers being compromised by anti-Israel sentiment. Hasbara Troll brigade
LMAO, from the well known impartial Jewish propaganda website. I can tell you this Cold Dumbfuck, I was born in 1960. For the first 20 years of my life I supported Isreals right to exist. Slowly but surely the pattern of ethnic cleansing, and outright repeated murder of civilians, the assassinations in other countries by Mossad, followed by research into the history of the formation of Israel by the UN (who had No right to do so ). I learned that the first tactic of Hasbara is to accuse anyone who critics Israel of being anti Semitic, playing on the well deserved sympathy for the terrible events of WW2. Your next move of course is the look over there they are worse tactic you just tried. Keep trying. The pattern of lies and propaganda was slowly revealed for the complete fantasy it is. I have no bias against any religion or race at all, I have no problems with the Jewish faith, apart from the ones I have with all imaginary sky friends. So you can keep spreading the cry wolf Hasbara a much as you like, I will still judge Isreal by it's actions, bombing schools and hospitals, killing children, the constant land theft, collective punishment, continue to this day.
Lastly of course is the rampant Islamaphobia your posting history shows.
Yep, I know all about the Stern gang and Irgun. Remember poor old Count Bernadotte, assassinated for trying to prevent Isreals ethnic cleansing. No materr how much the likes of cold turd spread the Habara, only shills like him believe it.
Same old hasbara lies eh, the world doesn't believe you any more shill boy. The current Israelis are from Eurpoe, and simple thieves and murderers.
I'm in no way anti-Semitic, I'm anti asshole. It's the normal typical wolf cry of a thouroughly discredited bunch of muderous theiving liars to make that claim. Besides not all Semites are Israeli you know, oh that's right, your in the process of trying to ethnically cleanse them Pure lying scum, founded by lies and terrorism, supported by corrupt US politicians and loopy fundamentalists. Give it up, you convince no one with your bullshit anymore.
Ah, yes from the country that treated the natives far worse, and is the most greedy ignorant and arrogant dumbfucks on the planet. Add the relevant B and your UI is most accurate.
Yep, if you hadn't done your usual stunt of staying out until as much profit as possible had been made, the war would have been a lot shorter. America is directly responsible for much of the terrorism in the world thru it's actions supporting terrosits in many many countries, and it's repeated meddling in places where they have no business.
Australia asshole, we don't Star Wars, were just stupid enough to follow the US into them, though we just refused any further involvement in your current war for profit.
Right, so the bit about slaying every man woman and child when capturing a city didn't happen in the Old Testament then. If you're going to lie, at least try and not make it so obvious. Still an uniformed lying American Christian is no surprise.
How ignorant can you be, the worst child abusers by far are the Catholic Church, even someone as obviously uninformed as you are should have noticed that.
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All of which could be said about the biblical Jewish kings.
It's funny how quickly you've forgotten the Christian terrorism of the IRA, the KKK, and others.
Perhaps try not constantly posting Apple shilling and see how you get on.
I lived in the UK for 10 years, and in cannot remember once seeing homeless in the streets.
That was some years ago. However, at least in the UK and other civilised countries, there is a decent social welfare program, so far less people are begging. That's just reality.
The enduring memory I have of America was the shock of seeing homeless and beggars in the streets. As a 15 year old, having travelled thru Eurpoe and the UK, the contrast was startling.
If you don't notice that in your travels, you must have had your eyes closed
Ooops. Not anon then. Never mind.
The elephant in the room is the incredibly stupid capitalism idea of relying on never ending growth in a limited environment.
Our planet is giving us lots of warning signs.
If we continue to abuse the environment, and use up precious resources by burning them, dumping rubbish in them and polluting them,
there is little hope that nature will not dispassionately reduce our population in some way or other.
If people like Slashdot posters, whom one would assume were of reasonable intelligence, can for example put up arguments, such as "the scientists are corrupted in climate science" , then without awareness of the apparent irony, promote Nuclear because "the scientists say the new reactors are safe" it's cognitive dissonance of the most extreme kind. I've been here long enough (16years) to remember the same denial crew saying solar/battery would never work. :)
The problem is worse in the US, UK and Australia as the denialist propaganda technique is enthusiastically promoted by the Murdoch press, and extensively funded by the Oil companies who have so much to lose. It's also caught on with those who tend to believe conspiracy theories, bringing with it the usual nutbagery.
Consequently, the funding of the development of renewables in those countries is less, let's face it, on the most basic level, renewable energy totally makes sense as an investment in the future of our species.
Several states and countries have already achieved days of total renewable energy use, the Aust state of South Australia has actually generated enough to export power to the grid. With the economies of scale now feeding the rapidly growing home battery market, and home solar we are on the brink of a genuine energy revolution. It's important that we help the poorer countries use renewables rather than fossil fuels at our western rate of use, defeating the reductions we are making.
You know it makes sense.
Falconhell, posting anon due to mods.
Ah well, at least there's a whiny AC to make it better.
Quite right, we've become incredibly blasé about the tech miracles of the last 50 years.
Of course, that's what free speech is.
Hasbara Troll brigade
Hasbara Trolls are generally quite polite at first. They pop up when someone is critical of Israel and it’s policies or interests. They target, write, engage, educate and insult. From my research it seems that there is some kind of hierarchy of trolls, they have leaders who tell them targets and guide them with their spin. Most work voluntarily but some are paid for by wealthy sponsors. They track topical keywords and persons using public websites such as topsy.com. Problems arise if one rejects the explanations being offered by the trolls, then their troll nature becomes apparent very quickly as they resort to
Classic insults: Anti-semite, Neo- Nazi, White Supremacist, Holocaust denier
Adept with social networks well trained on IT
Hasbara trolls use internet alerts to warn them when hot keywords are mentioned. Keywords such as Israel, Jewish, Judaism etc. When those words are mentioned they are alerted and they go to investigate who is talking about what. I have seen this happen many times with Gilad Atzmon, someone will post something from Gilad, shortly afterwards they are bombarded by hasbara trolls. Initially they explain where they had gone wrong and try to ‘educate’ people with their ideology.
Hasbara Troll attributes
Supreme point of view
The Hasbara troll knows best
Condescending & Patronising
Socialist (Smart and ‘caring’)
Do not have to be Jewish but Pro-Israel
Internet experts
Narcissistic
Provocative
Dis-ruptive
Like to ask the questions, not answer questions
Control freaks
Inflamed by anyone being critical of Israel
‘Moral’ Guardians
Classic insults: Anti-semite, Neo- Nazi, White Supremacist, Holocaust denier
Adept with social networks well trained on IT
Hasbara trolls use internet alerts to warn them when hot keywords are mentioned. Keywords such as Israel, Jewish, Judaism etc. When those words are mentioned they are alerted and they go to investigate who is talking about what. I have seen this happen many times with Gilad Atzmon, someone will post something from Gilad, shortly afterwards they are bombarded by hasbara trolls. Initially they explain where they had gone wrong and try to ‘educate’ people with their ideology. Usually they say something like
Hasbara is an Hebrew word defined as explanation. The purpose of Hasbara is to explain and educate western people about the Israeli mission. Hasbara can take many forms, adverts, websites, comments on blogs, letter writing, protests and so on. For a fuller idea of the depth of Hasbara check this tool-kit from the We Believe in Israel Website. (made by BICOM). The difference between propaganda and hasbara? I would say Hasbara is more of a soft sell at first, it seeks to inform, influence and educate the ignorant to the Israeli cause. The narrative of Hasbara has a victimized quality underpinning it, a very passive-aggressive approach, Israel is always defending not attacking. They play the mis-understood victim and invite their critics to attack them. The sub-current being that Israel’s message is not understood. Israel views that the reason for this is either lack of education or stupidity. So the Hasbara agents explain until they realise that they are getting nowhere and then respond with disdain and
Hasbara Tactics
By controlling information one can control people and the social networks. Hasbara volunteers help to police social networks for Israel. The big media are dealt with through BICOM and AIPAC, whilst the social media are policed unofficially by the Hasbara troll brigade. Priority is to stop influencers being compromised by anti-Israel sentiment.
Hasbara Troll brigade
LMAO, from the well known impartial Jewish propaganda website.
I can tell you this Cold Dumbfuck, I was born in 1960.
For the first 20 years of my life I supported Isreals right to exist.
Slowly but surely the pattern of ethnic cleansing, and outright repeated murder of civilians, the assassinations in other countries by Mossad, followed by research into the history of the formation of Israel by the UN (who had No right to do so ).
I learned that the first tactic of Hasbara is to accuse anyone who critics Israel of being anti Semitic, playing on the well deserved sympathy for the terrible events of WW2. Your next move of course is the look over there they are worse tactic you just tried. Keep trying.
The pattern of lies and propaganda was slowly revealed for the complete fantasy it is.
I have no bias against any religion or race at all, I have no problems with the Jewish faith, apart from the ones I have with all imaginary sky friends.
So you can keep spreading the cry wolf Hasbara a much as you like, I will still judge Isreal by it's actions, bombing schools and hospitals, killing children, the constant land theft, collective punishment, continue to this day.
Lastly of course is the rampant Islamaphobia your posting history shows.
Yep, I know all about the Stern gang and Irgun.
Remember poor old Count Bernadotte, assassinated for trying to prevent Isreals ethnic cleansing.
No materr how much the likes of cold turd spread the Habara, only shills like him believe it.
Same old hasbara lies eh, the world doesn't believe you any more shill boy. The current Israelis are from Eurpoe, and simple thieves and murderers.
I'm in no way anti-Semitic, I'm anti asshole. It's the normal typical wolf cry of a thouroughly discredited bunch of muderous theiving liars to make that claim.
Besides not all Semites are Israeli you know, oh that's right, your in the process of trying to ethnically cleanse them
Pure lying scum, founded by lies and terrorism, supported by corrupt US politicians and loopy fundamentalists.
Give it up, you convince no one with your bullshit anymore.
Ah, yes from the country that treated the natives far worse, and is the most greedy ignorant and arrogant dumbfucks on the planet. Add the relevant B and your UI is most accurate.
Oh yes, criticising deluded assholes is a bonus, but not the first intent.
You are reaping what you sowed.
Yep, if you hadn't done your usual stunt of staying out until as much profit as possible had been made, the war would have been a lot shorter. America is directly responsible for much of the terrorism in the world thru it's actions supporting terrosits in many many countries, and it's repeated meddling in places where they have no business.
Australia asshole, we don't Star Wars, were just stupid enough to follow the US into them, though we just refused any further involvement in your current war for profit.
Nope, you're the one with a comprehension issue, and let's not start on the stupidity of adults believing in imaginary sky fairies.
Right, so the bit about slaying every man woman and child when capturing a city didn't happen in the Old Testament then.
If you're going to lie, at least try and not make it so obvious. Still an uniformed lying American Christian is no surprise.
How ignorant can you be, the worst child abusers by far are the Catholic Church, even someone as obviously uninformed as you are should have noticed that.
My mains powered blower works great, plenty of power. Why would you go thru the pain in the ass of a petrol engine?
You mean like the incitement to violence that the US indulged in the lead up to the war in Iraq?
Ah, only when others do it, gotcha.
Yes.