Um, judging from their history (which btw is not THAT long to begin with), they are about 10, maybe 20 years ahead at best. They supposedly knew about public key crypto a couple of years before anyone else (although we have only their word on that) and we know that they knew about differential cryptanalysis about 10 years ahead of the public sector (if the history of DES is any indication).
Let's not forget though, they are not supermen, the are just the best the US has to offer. And we are not exactly known world wide as a math powerhouse.
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Are you under the impression that the US is the only country with cryptography knowhow? Are you under the impression that the US is even relevelent anymore in math and crypto? So what if we classify all our stuff, we have fallen far enough behind that nobody cares anyway.
Granted the NSA is probably still ahead of the general population, but given that they have to hire US citizens (who were educated in US public schools most likely) do you really think foreign countries cannot do better?
Is it possible they are trying to hide how far behind we are?
I don't know if it is the class of programmers it attracts, or the langauge itself but it seems pretty much all the worst, insecure web applications are written in PHP these days. PHP-Nuke seems like it is exploited about monthly for example.
Then again, I wrote my weblog software in C, so what the hell am I talking about?
Interestingly, the PA turnpike was only supposed to be a toll road until the initial construction was completely paid off, then it was to be free. It has long since been paid off, but they decided it would be better to keep charging. After all, they got a revenue stream, and who would ever give that up. Since then, they have constantly raised rates, basically squeezing as much as possible out of captive customers while providing typical crappy PA roads.
Technically you need DNSSEC for HTTPS and SSH to work as well, and we do not have that. TLS is a very cryptographically strong idea, but it all depends on DNS which is horribly insecure. Oddly, people debate about 1024bit keys vs 2048 and the like, but they never think about this.
Um, yes. It is well documented, able to be used royalty free, many implimentations of readers and writers exist, and it is covered in several RFCs. It meets all of Massachusets' requirements. Nobody said it had to be licensed under the GPL or anything like that. It seems a lot of people mistakenly believe this is only about OpenDocument.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Microsoft takes a hard line on OpenDocument and Massachusets dumps the format within a few years.
They don't specify a format, OpenDocument is just currently the most prevelent editable format that meets their requirements.
Forget other states, other countries are doing the same, Universities, and even some corporations (I wouldn't be suprised to see IBM do this). Really, what do they have to gain by sticking with Doc? Especially given MS's history using it to force expensive (and unnecessary) Office upgrades on people. That gravy train is slowing down as more people realize their needs were met several versions of office ago, and free alternatives have passed even those old versions up in terms of functionality. As long as they can still read other people's Doc formats who cares what they use internally?
Gee, where did anyone say you had to have Open or StarOffice? How about PDF, that is an open format is most likely te primary way files will be made available to the public. Not to mention there is nothing stopping MS from supporting OpenDocument either, which I believe was really the goal of this hard line approach. It is simple economics, if they want Mass. as a customer, they will deliver what the customer wants. It certainly wouldn't be difficult from a technical persepctive since they already support dozens of obscure fileformats already (WordPerfect 5.1 anyone?)
Well, Islamic terrorists tend to have Islamic sounding names, do they not?
Or are we not supposed to allude to the fact that they are Islamic? Perhaps we should search some more old white ladies at the airport to make it fair again.
Really, because everything I have seen indicates that it will cost more to deploy BPL to remote locations than Cable or DSL. I guess I just don't see the point in promoting something that is more expensive than the existing alternatives, and seems to have serious fundamental technical issues to boot.
When he does conversions, he routinely finishes early and spends the afternoon getting free beer from his boss.
Are you suggesting your roommate does banking operating system conversions in one morning? It kinda reads that way but I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you did not intend to say something that insane.
We had a sunfire as a mail server for about 3 years then went to upgrade the disk space last year and a 75gb drive was $4000. Proprietary isn't worth it.
Ok, so let us see, you are upset with a server that worked perfectly well for three years, right? Only because, and I want to be perfectly clear about this, only because your company wasted $4000.
$4000, because they did not see fit to employ someone who knew that Sun boxes can take pretty much any generic SCSI drive out there. Or someone who knew how to operate that complicated "google.com" site.
You want the real answer? Because the RF output necessary to make that happen would (1) saturate the spectrum to the point where only a few people can make calls at the same time and (2) that level of power would fry the person using the phone.
Think 802.11b, you only have a few channels. Imagine how unrealistic it would be if you were allowed to use enough power to cover a city block. You would have room for about 3 good access points (or 11 access points that interfere with each other)
This is just utter ignorance on your part. I work for the only company in Canada licenced to operate residential BBPL service. I also happen to have a no-code tech. licence. I can tell you with 100% certanty that our equipment does not interfear with ham radio services.
So with credentials you must know that the BPL causes problems on the HF spectrum, not VHF and UHF which as a no code tech, you are limited to. Do you have any experience with the actual bands that are at issue? You justification for your arguement sounds rather like someone saying "I live in Pittsburgh and it is dry here, so obviously flooding is not really a problem anywhere".
I have a similar story. I know someone who was once robbed, and there police where not there to help him. Therefor, the entire law enforcement community is just a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Armed with my dataset of exactly one sample I can safely assert that none of them do anything ever, and so the whole concept of police must be a scam.
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Um, judging from their history (which btw is not THAT long to begin with), they are about 10, maybe 20 years ahead at best. They supposedly knew about public key crypto a couple of years before anyone else (although we have only their word on that) and we know that they knew about differential cryptanalysis about 10 years ahead of the public sector (if the history of DES is any indication).
Let's not forget though, they are not supermen, the are just the best the US has to offer. And we are not exactly known world wide as a math powerhouse.
Finkployd
Are you under the impression that the US is the only country with cryptography knowhow? Are you under the impression that the US is even relevelent anymore in math and crypto? So what if we classify all our stuff, we have fallen far enough behind that nobody cares anyway.
Granted the NSA is probably still ahead of the general population, but given that they have to hire US citizens (who were educated in US public schools most likely) do you really think foreign countries cannot do better?
Is it possible they are trying to hide how far behind we are?
Finkployd
(1) That was the most erotic thing I have ever seen on slashdot.
(2) There should NEVER be a situation where the above sentence is called for.
Finkployd
However I think it still have a max file size of 2GB.
This has not been true for quite a while.
Finkployd
Coda is long dead, never lived up to anything. Most Coda people have gone to Intermezzo, which is still not really usable yet.
Go use Openafs
Finkployd
And it's not like I'm going to kick back and re-read the same frigging book every weekend.
In which case it is as really bad analogy for music and this whole thread is pointless.
I know, I know, "I must be new here"
Finkployd
I don't know if it is the class of programmers it attracts, or the langauge itself but it seems pretty much all the worst, insecure web applications are written in PHP these days. PHP-Nuke seems like it is exploited about monthly for example.
Then again, I wrote my weblog software in C, so what the hell am I talking about?
Finkployd
Homestarrunner aside, does anyone here actually go to flash sites? (especially when presented with a non-flash alternative upon entering the site?)
I have never found flash enabled sites to be any easier to navigate or more informative, usually the opposite.
Finkployd
Interestingly, the PA turnpike was only supposed to be a toll road until the initial construction was completely paid off, then it was to be free. It has long since been paid off, but they decided it would be better to keep charging. After all, they got a revenue stream, and who would ever give that up. Since then, they have constantly raised rates, basically squeezing as much as possible out of captive customers while providing typical crappy PA roads.
Does this make the analogy any better?
So we'll create our own Internet! With blackjack! And strippers!
I understand the joke (Futurama season 1 ep2), but think about this....
This is what we have now. What are the two most popular things on the internet? Porn and gambling.
Technically you need DNSSEC for HTTPS and SSH to work as well, and we do not have that. TLS is a very cryptographically strong idea, but it all depends on DNS which is horribly insecure. Oddly, people debate about 1024bit keys vs 2048 and the like, but they never think about this.
Finkployd
PDF is open? Heh.
Um, yes. It is well documented, able to be used royalty free, many implimentations of readers and writers exist, and it is covered in several RFCs. It meets all of Massachusets' requirements. Nobody said it had to be licensed under the GPL or anything like that. It seems a lot of people mistakenly believe this is only about OpenDocument.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Microsoft takes a hard line on OpenDocument and Massachusets dumps the format within a few years.
They don't specify a format, OpenDocument is just currently the most prevelent editable format that meets their requirements.
Forget other states, other countries are doing the same, Universities, and even some corporations (I wouldn't be suprised to see IBM do this). Really, what do they have to gain by sticking with Doc? Especially given MS's history using it to force expensive (and unnecessary) Office upgrades on people. That gravy train is slowing down as more people realize their needs were met several versions of office ago, and free alternatives have passed even those old versions up in terms of functionality. As long as they can still read other people's Doc formats who cares what they use internally?
Finkployd
Gee, where did anyone say you had to have Open or StarOffice? How about PDF, that is an open format is most likely te primary way files will be made available to the public. Not to mention there is nothing stopping MS from supporting OpenDocument either, which I believe was really the goal of this hard line approach. It is simple economics, if they want Mass. as a customer, they will deliver what the customer wants. It certainly wouldn't be difficult from a technical persepctive since they already support dozens of obscure fileformats already (WordPerfect 5.1 anyone?)
Finkployd
Well, Islamic terrorists tend to have Islamic sounding names, do they not?
Or are we not supposed to allude to the fact that they are Islamic? Perhaps we should search some more old white ladies at the airport to make it fair again.
Finkployd
Nope, it is RF. Really. Is is not HF or VHF, perhaps that is is what you were thinking of, but it is still radio frequency.
Really, because everything I have seen indicates that it will cost more to deploy BPL to remote locations than Cable or DSL. I guess I just don't see the point in promoting something that is more expensive than the existing alternatives, and seems to have serious fundamental technical issues to boot.
Finkployd
When he does conversions, he routinely finishes early and spends the afternoon getting free beer from his boss.
Are you suggesting your roommate does banking operating system conversions in one morning? It kinda reads that way but I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you did not intend to say something that insane.
Finkployd
We had a sunfire as a mail server for about 3 years then went to upgrade the disk space last year and a 75gb drive was $4000. Proprietary isn't worth it.
Ok, so let us see, you are upset with a server that worked perfectly well for three years, right? Only because, and I want to be perfectly clear about this, only because your company wasted $4000.
$4000, because they did not see fit to employ someone who knew that Sun boxes can take pretty much any generic SCSI drive out there. Or someone who knew how to operate that complicated "google.com" site.
Do I have it right?
Finkployd
The Constiution is there to protect the rights of U.S. citizens, no one else.
You are sadly mistaken. Geeze, I knew our schools sucked, but do they really suck this bad?
Finkployd
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/2 6/145248
YHL, HAND
Finkployd
I was not aware that wanting to classify the severity of a problem made one a zealot...
Finkployd
HT's yes, but you didn't say that :)
It is a shame 2m is dead there, it is pretty huge in Pittsburgh.
Finkployd
You want the real answer? Because the RF output necessary to make that happen would (1) saturate the spectrum to the point where only a few people can make calls at the same time and (2) that level of power would fry the person using the phone.
Think 802.11b, you only have a few channels. Imagine how unrealistic it would be if you were allowed to use enough power to cover a city block. You would have room for about 3 good access points (or 11 access points that interfere with each other)
Finkployd
This is just utter ignorance on your part. I work for the only company in Canada licenced to operate residential BBPL service. I also happen to have a no-code tech. licence. I can tell you with 100% certanty that our equipment does not interfear with ham radio services.
So with credentials you must know that the BPL causes problems on the HF spectrum, not VHF and UHF which as a no code tech, you are limited to. Do you have any experience with the actual bands that are at issue? You justification for your arguement sounds rather like someone saying "I live in Pittsburgh and it is dry here, so obviously flooding is not really a problem anywhere".
Finkployd
I have a similar story. I know someone who was once robbed, and there police where not there to help him. Therefor, the entire law enforcement community is just a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Armed with my dataset of exactly one sample I can safely assert that none of them do anything ever, and so the whole concept of police must be a scam.
You yutz