To paraphrase a line from The Boondock Saints, That's just fuckin' scary. Automatic Retailer Machines. Man, i am not looking forward to a robot selling me a computer.
Where did a line even remotely resembling that one occur in boondock saints?
The only thing I can think of is when the one cop says "now that's just fuckin' wierd" at the strip club.
Seriously though, the phrase "that's just fuckin X" is general enough that I don't think using it can be considered paraphrasing anyone.
As a side note, what will happen if Linux becomes ultra popular? More programmers will be needed, all working for free? Its not going to happen!
Linux has been getting increasingly more popular for the last decade, and it has been happening all the time. What leads you to believe it will suddenly stop?
I'm sure back in the linux 1.x days people were saying the same thing, and again in the 2.0 days, 2.2, 2.4, etc.
That's believable. My whole problem with the Democratic party right now is that their only real issue seems to be "We are not the party of Bush". While whipping people into an angry frenzy sure gets them fired up and gets the nation's attention, it doesn't do much for voter turnout. Much better to get people excited for your candidate than angry at the other guy. Positive motivation vs negative and all that.
While I don't really disagree, it is important to note that the existing media has a strong vested interest in downplaying the importance of the internet and especially things like weblogs and other sources of information that they may feel threatened by.
Depends on where you are. It certainly seems to be winning the server OS wars at certain Universities.
I guess those are more like battles though. Battles in a war that will never decisively be won because the battlefield changes rapidly.
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(1) After the grandparent poster laid out that long list of examples of corruption and problems he saw with the Democratic party, that is the best you can do? (2) Yes the Republican Party is also corrupt and has serious problems. I fail to see how that is an effective excuse for the Democratic party to act the same way.
The Democratic party was panicking that Dean would actually get the nomination, and needed to find a way to stop that.
Yes, because after being throughly defeated in Iowa, Dean seem right on track to capturing the nomination. Are you suggesting that the Democrats controlled the media and were the cause of the sound clip being played over and over?
Ummm, yes it is. I'm not sure what strange economic theory you are buying into but generally in the real world, when something is selling like hot-cakes, it is because people find it to be useful. I don't think the world is full of ipod owners who are grumbling "damn this this is useless". Not only are the enjoying it, it seems they are purchasing new ones when they come out.
Of course to play into your bizarre and totally irrelevant metaphor I will grant you that the ipod is nothing like a Rolls Royce. However may more Honda Civics are sold than the Rolls so I think we can safely conclude that people find Civics to be useful as well.
Yeah, you're right. I want a closed box with no screws that you can't change the battery, and STILL can't drive any bass into Portapros. The 2$ toilet-colored earbuds are much better. That's why MP3 sounds better. Right.
Yes, and one just needs to look at how horribly the ipods have sold to see that many share your opinion.
Why bother? If you had any decent anti-virus product, or applied security patches like you were supposed to, Download.ject would not be your problem.
As long as you are you are using IE with activeX turned on, it does not matter how many of the existing security patches you have or how many antivirus packages you have installed, you are vulnerable. There are too many unpatched holes still out there. And the vast majority of people are still using IE.
I completely agree with that, which is why I am an advocate of getting this information about which companies are careful with my data and which ones cannot be trusted. This is all part of taking precautions and preventive measures.
I'd be pretty upset if some third party then went and blabbed to everyone about it afterwards.
Meaning no disrespect to you, this is EXACTLY what I want to happen. For the reasons you outlined, nobody can rely on the company to come clean about the danger they have (and in some cases repeatedly) put their customer in. Therefor we need some form of third party to do this. I like the idea mentioned elsewhere about gathering and publishing this information via p2p so it cannot be "targeted" and shut down.
Of course there would be a serious concern with libel. Some form of validation or authenticity would have to be dreamed up, and I have no idea how to attack that problem.
Yes, obviously, to a consumer, the security of _your_ computer is more important to _you_ than _my_ reputation.
And as the consumer I ultimately have the power to make this happen. If enough people demand this, it will happen.
Clearly you have never been a victim of identity theft and thus forced to spend years correcting the problem, all the while racking up debt. Certainly no where near as bad as death by food poisoning, but certainly a little more serious than reformatting your computer.
Food poisoning doesn't always equal death. It might just be a temporary "annoyance". The point is, regardless of the scale with which you rank these things, the consumer has a right to know, thus making informed decisions.
Because to me, the security of my PC and identity is infinitely more important than your reputation and "ego" as a webmaster (or corporate entity). I'm sure restaurant chains would prefer that nobody know when a food poisoning outbreak occurs either.
The bottom line is, if anyone is going to come away with some pain from something like this it should be the one who directly due to negligence caused it (the website), not the innocent consumer who was kept in the dark about the abhorrent security track record of someone they do business with.
So protesting and concern over constitutional rights are the sole domain of the left? Right wingers never protest or are concerned over constitutional rights? Plenty of gun owning, anti-abortionists would disagree I'm sure.
As for the arguments presented - the RIAA claims their business is being wrecked by this. That's all that matters.
So following your logic. The only thing that REALLY matters is that the tech industry claims their business will be wrecked by this law, and they are larger. So sorry but they matter more.
The only counter-argument that would have any traction would be that the RIAA is lying, and no one is advancing that pov because no one has the credibility to do so.
Actually the RIAA's numbers are anything but reliable. They have profited in a period of economic slump at an unheard of rate, yet spew out illogical estimations of losses. Given the number of times their claims have been effectively discredited I'm surprised it is even necessary to prove they are lying at this point.
I repeat: this is a lost cause and it's going to pass.
If it is such a closed case, I wonder why the RIAA felt the need to write a long winded (and as I read it again, childish sounding) letter to every senator? Sure they have better things to do than lobby for bills that are guaranteed to pass.
I have a really hard time finding the EFF to be ultra left wing.
This one is a lost cause. You can't come up with an argument against it that sounds legitimate. It's going to pass.
The tech industry (which, oh by the way is significantly larger than the RIAA) put forth a legitimate argument, what do you think this poorly written RIAA letter is in response to?
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To paraphrase a line from The Boondock Saints, That's just fuckin' scary. Automatic Retailer Machines. Man, i am not looking forward to a robot selling me a computer.
Where did a line even remotely resembling that one occur in boondock saints?
The only thing I can think of is when the one cop says "now that's just fuckin' wierd" at the strip club.
Seriously though, the phrase "that's just fuckin X" is general enough that I don't think using it can be considered paraphrasing anyone.
Finkployd
As a side note, what will happen if Linux becomes ultra popular? More programmers will be needed, all working for free? Its not going to happen!
Linux has been getting increasingly more popular for the last decade, and it has been happening all the time. What leads you to believe it will suddenly stop?
I'm sure back in the linux 1.x days people were saying the same thing, and again in the 2.0 days, 2.2, 2.4, etc.
Finkployd
How is wardriving going to detect if someone somehow avoided the wifi tax on the purchase of their wifi device?
I'm interested to see how they figure this one out
May I suggest reading the article? Taxing the sale of wifi devices is how.
Finkployd
A tax on the sale of wifi gear will be hard to enforce? How do you figure?
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That's believable. My whole problem with the Democratic party right now is that their only real issue seems to be "We are not the party of Bush". While whipping people into an angry frenzy sure gets them fired up and gets the nation's attention, it doesn't do much for voter turnout. Much better to get people excited for your candidate than angry at the other guy. Positive motivation vs negative and all that.
While I don't really disagree, it is important to note that the existing media has a strong vested interest in downplaying the importance of the internet and especially things like weblogs and other sources of information that they may feel threatened by.
Depends on where you are. It certainly seems to be winning the server OS wars at certain Universities.
I guess those are more like battles though. Battles in a war that will never decisively be won because the battlefield changes rapidly.
Finkployd
(1) After the grandparent poster laid out that long list of examples of corruption and problems he saw with the Democratic party, that is the best you can do?
(2) Yes the Republican Party is also corrupt and has serious problems. I fail to see how that is an effective excuse for the Democratic party to act the same way.
The Democratic party was panicking that Dean would actually get the nomination, and needed to find a way to stop that.
Yes, because after being throughly defeated in Iowa, Dean seem right on track to capturing the nomination. Are you suggesting that the Democrats controlled the media and were the cause of the sound clip being played over and over?
Finkployd
Like that's an indication of anything useful?
Ummm, yes it is. I'm not sure what strange economic theory you are buying into but generally in the real world, when something is selling like hot-cakes, it is because people find it to be useful. I don't think the world is full of ipod owners who are grumbling "damn this this is useless". Not only are the enjoying it, it seems they are purchasing new ones when they come out.
Of course to play into your bizarre and totally irrelevant metaphor I will grant you that the ipod is nothing like a Rolls Royce. However may more Honda Civics are sold than the Rolls so I think we can safely conclude that people find Civics to be useful as well.
Finkployd
"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers" - Shakespear
"Let's kill all the lawyers, kill em tonight" - Henley
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Except you quotes The Eagles.
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Yeah, you're right. I want a closed box with no screws that you can't change the battery, and STILL can't drive any bass into Portapros. The 2$ toilet-colored earbuds are much better. That's why MP3 sounds better. Right.
Yes, and one just needs to look at how horribly the ipods have sold to see that many share your opinion.
Finkployd
Why bother? If you had any decent anti-virus product, or applied security patches like you were supposed to, Download.ject would not be your problem.
As long as you are you are using IE with activeX turned on, it does not matter how many of the existing security patches you have or how many antivirus packages you have installed, you are vulnerable. There are too many unpatched holes still out there. And the vast majority of people are still using IE.
Finkployd
I completely agree with that, which is why I am an advocate of getting this information about which companies are careful with my data and which ones cannot be trusted. This is all part of taking precautions and preventive measures.
Finkployd
I'd be pretty upset if some third party then went and blabbed to everyone about it afterwards.
Meaning no disrespect to you, this is EXACTLY what I want to happen. For the reasons you outlined, nobody can rely on the company to come clean about the danger they have (and in some cases repeatedly) put their customer in. Therefor we need some form of third party to do this. I like the idea mentioned elsewhere about gathering and publishing this information via p2p so it cannot be "targeted" and shut down.
Of course there would be a serious concern with libel. Some form of validation or authenticity would have to be dreamed up, and I have no idea how to attack that problem.
Yes, obviously, to a consumer, the security of _your_ computer is more important to _you_ than _my_ reputation.
And as the consumer I ultimately have the power to make this happen. If enough people demand this, it will happen.
Finkployd
Clearly you have never been a victim of identity theft and thus forced to spend years correcting the problem, all the while racking up debt. Certainly no where near as bad as death by food poisoning, but certainly a little more serious than reformatting your computer.
Finkployd
Food poisoning doesn't always equal death. It might just be a temporary "annoyance". The point is, regardless of the scale with which you rank these things, the consumer has a right to know, thus making informed decisions.
Finkployd
Because to me, the security of my PC and identity is infinitely more important than your reputation and "ego" as a webmaster (or corporate entity). I'm sure restaurant chains would prefer that nobody know when a food poisoning outbreak occurs either.
The bottom line is, if anyone is going to come away with some pain from something like this it should be the one who directly due to negligence caused it (the website), not the innocent consumer who was kept in the dark about the abhorrent security track record of someone they do business with.
How's THAT for a run on sentence.
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So what you are saying is that Linux & BSD cost "my time", and Windows costs "my time + outrageous licensing fees".
That still doesn't look good for Windows.
Finkployd
How about Roxio? That is who they really are. Roxio just bought the name.
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Puh-leeeze. Left wing all the way!
So protesting and concern over constitutional rights are the sole domain of the left? Right wingers never protest or are concerned over constitutional rights? Plenty of gun owning, anti-abortionists would disagree I'm sure.
As for the arguments presented - the RIAA claims their business is being wrecked by this. That's all that matters.
So following your logic. The only thing that REALLY matters is that the tech industry claims their business will be wrecked by this law, and they are larger. So sorry but they matter more.
The only counter-argument that would have any traction would be that the RIAA is lying, and no one is advancing that pov because no one has the credibility to do so.
Actually the RIAA's numbers are anything but reliable. They have profited in a period of economic slump at an unheard of rate, yet spew out illogical estimations of losses. Given the number of times their claims have been effectively discredited I'm surprised it is even necessary to prove they are lying at this point.
I repeat: this is a lost cause and it's going to pass.
If it is such a closed case, I wonder why the RIAA felt the need to write a long winded (and as I read it again, childish sounding) letter to every senator? Sure they have better things to do than lobby for bills that are guaranteed to pass.
Finkployd
I have a really hard time finding the EFF to be ultra left wing.
This one is a lost cause. You can't come up with an argument against it that sounds legitimate. It's going to pass.
The tech industry (which, oh by the way is significantly larger than the RIAA) put forth a legitimate argument, what do you think this poorly written RIAA letter is in response to?
Finkployd
Further reality check. They sold out of them, the replacement is the forthcoming G5 iMac.
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