Napster is causing a vast number of consumers to believe that free music on the Internet is an entitlement. Teece Rpt., p. 16 (R544); Dreece Decl., 6; Valenti Decl., 7; Frackman Decl., Ex. F.
I have experienced this firsthand. I can't tell you the enormous amount of rationalization I've heard from people trying to justify downloading thier favorite new songs from the net: "try before you buy", "My brother's girlfriend bought a copy of the cd, it would be the same as me borrowing it" come to mind.
Napster encourages literally millions of Napster users, who never would consider taking a CD from a record store without paying, to commit infringement by downloading music from the computer hard drives of strangers without paying. Thus, as one Napster user posted on the Napster website: "We all know it's illegal. We just don't think it's wrong." This is a bit of a stretch, as they insinuate that sharing MP3's is as criminal as stealing a CD from the store. Many people didn't see Napster as illegal since everyone was doing it and there were not any real consequences or explicit warnings from Napster...plus, some viewed it as synonymous to sharing tapes, since the quality is worse (kinda like recording off the radio) and besides, until this trial, no real law has been defined around MP3's. However, as an adult, you have to be very wary of anything that's too good to be true.
It's funny you should bring up lyrics in a discussion about Napster.
When I was in college, the hot thing to do was gopher lyrics off the "web". But, alas, in the begining of my sophomore year, it was declared illegal and shut down. Now-a-days, you can still find the lyrics you want, if you search for them, but I am not aware of such a centralized repository for them. (Of course, I'm not really looking anymore) I think that will be the case also with Napster, to some extent. From what I understand, (I could be wrong, and correct me if I am), Napster's biggest vulnerability (ie, the reason they can be easily attacked in court, not necessarily the reason they will lose in court) is that they have a centralized service. They have a point to attack.
Besides that, the reason they will probably lose in court is that they now sound like a little kid (I can't stop it, I didn't mean to do it, it's not my fault). That doen't play well on Judge Judy, and it doesn't play well in the real world either.
From what I have seen, Win2000 is not your father's NT. I've had lots of trouble keeping windows NT running my web apps, but windows 2000 seems more stable. I still have my doubts about it being better than any unix derivative, and so I moving all my code to platform independence, and it will probably end up on AIX (I am trying to get some linux/FreeBSD boxen up and running, but I have to clear off the servers running NT right now. (there are too many other employees who readily jump into the easy but proprietary trap where I work))
Why would you do that? There are already plenty of people who violate the GPL without paying a fee (and are probably not being caught). Go figure...you are assuming people let their conscience weigh in on their decisions.........
Anyone who cracks into the blood supply data to reverse polarity has a serious mental/social development problems. Don't call yourslef a hacker or a cracker. Call yourself a terrorist. May you reap what you sow.
* FreeBSD 4.1 can now be installed on an IPv6-only network - this will be the first release of FreeBSD that never needs to operate using IPv4 at all! ftp7.jp.freebsd.org (Listed as Japan #7 in sysinstall) is an IPv6-reachable mirror site for installation and package-fetching
The revolution has begun! IPV6-->and you thought the internet was already big enough.
Besides, that, it's a heck of a lot harder to be an administrator of an obfuscated machine just to keep it secure. And who is to say through obfucation itself, you didn't open more security holes?
but could someone mirror the perfect mirror? theoretically?
Elimination of the need for optical amplifiers will cut the cost of deploying and maintaining optical networks. Combined with the increased bandwidth, it will allow network operators to slash cost-per-bit dramatically In other words, brace for a Time Warner/AOL buyout. Anyone want to bet on how long OmniGuide is it's own corp?
yes, yes. The old chicken and the egg. without rampant innovation (as in diverting from status quo) we wouldn't need standards, yet standards encourage a common ground, which then becomes staus quo (not to mention, standards are slow).
That's why you see a lot of big name companies designing specs before content, and others touting reference implementations. Also why sun is so darn picky about JAVA.
Take Microsoft features, copy it, improve it, and add it to KDE. So has GNOME's. If you ask me, there's not a lot of innovation going on.
Well, it certainly worked for Microsoft. Embrace and Extend. I like the improvements GNOME & KDE have made to little subtle things in the GUI. But, if you hate it that much, go back to proprietary, standardized systems. I don't think those developers for KDE and GNOME who put a lot of work and thought into thier products, and, BTW, write the code you are complaining about, will miss you that much. Just don't complain when you are boxed into a bad standard.
I just hope that I can have the look still be professional
I don't know...I always thought KDE looked kindof windows3.1ish. I prefer the way HELIX Gnome looks, because, in my opinion, KDE looks childish. I've got them both loaded though.
Plus, both KDE and GNOME are pretty customizable, and a "professional look" is really a subjective term. For instance, who is to say even having a start menu bar is professional? Maybe the AIX CDE box is better.
So to take the analogy it to the nth degree, if someone invented a file sharing program that distributed illegal napster merchandise (t-shirts w/ logos, coffee cups,etc etc)....
Are you really suprised that napster defends its logo etc etc? Not every company is a greatful dead company. Although it might be cool to have a bunch of bootlegs and mp3's of a band, it is definitely a threat to a business to have somebody ripping of your ideas and brand. We supposedly have these laws so mr. mom and pop can get a great idea, plop down a shop, and use the cops to keep WalMart from cloning them out of business.
Companies work hard to establish a brand. The company I work for sends out regulations and guidelines for the exact color size shape you can print our logo in. The web pages must meet a certain criteria so our customers are confident it is us. Other companies can't start using our logo on a whim
Corporations should be allowed to defend thier logos/original ideas, and metallica should be allowed to defend thier music.
It is more likely that it will atrophy from it's failure to recognize when times "are a'changing"
Although I don't idolize the speaker, I couldn't help but think of this quote:
"And it ought to be remembered that there is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things. Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well under the new. This coolness arises partly from fear of the opponents, who have the laws on their side, and partly from the incredulity of men, who do not readily believe in new things until they have had a long experience of them. Thus it happens that whenever those who are hostile have the opportunity to attack they do it like partisans, whilst the others defend lukewarmly..." --Nicolo Machiavelli, The Prince as translated by W. K. Marriott
I think you need to study a little more american history before you claim america is "falling into" a moralist state. America is most likely falling out af a moralist state.
Anyways, what is so wrong about morality? If you don't believe in some sort of absolute standards (even if you can't always meet them (thus hypocrites) then you have to believe in relativistic ones. Do you know what that means? You can't tell other people that your stance or opinion ( or anything you believe is right) is any better than theirs. If that's what you believe, then how can you been so idignant that one choice is better than others? If there is no moral standard, then there is just majority standard (might makes right--->that's an oppresive regime). Besides, you have a big hangup about hypocrites. Just because you can't live up to a standard doesn't mean the standard is flawed, it means you are flawed. That's like claiming because there's an abundance of counterfiet money out there, real cash is worthless. Your entire argument is rubbish and has no logical platform.
BTW, it seems to me you don't belive in a hell, so how would you see anyone there?
BTW, you should quit condemning oppresive regimes, after all, what's to say they are wrong?
IE is is faster because it loads at boot time. JAva engine included.
while (rant) { I am so sick of people complaining about something taking a little longer. Do you realize that even in internet time, it is better to build a good base and do it right and standardized? I write java servlets and it takes a bit longer than ASP but in the long run, it's much more competative because it is enterprise capable and extendable. So IE has neat little javascript rollovers, and startsup quicker...so what. What does that do for doing business over the web? The technologies coming in Mozilla and netscape look to be excellent for such things(ie, the java plugin etc.etc.) }
I'm not so sure this is correct. People will rewrite thier pages given that netscape or mozilla comes with a feature that defines the future of the web. If you've looked at mozilla lately,you will see that a lot of the stuff they are working on kicks. For example, the vector based image stuff. And thats one of 100.
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Napster is causing a vast number of consumers to believe that free music on the Internet is an entitlement. Teece Rpt., p. 16 (R544); Dreece Decl., 6; Valenti Decl., 7; Frackman Decl., Ex. F.
I have experienced this firsthand. I can't tell you the enormous amount of rationalization I've heard from people trying to justify downloading thier favorite new songs from the net: "try before you buy", "My brother's girlfriend bought a copy of the cd, it would be the same as me borrowing it" come to mind.
Napster encourages literally millions of Napster users, who never would consider taking a CD from a record store without paying, to commit infringement by downloading music from the computer hard drives of strangers without paying. Thus, as one Napster user posted on the Napster website: "We all know it's illegal. We just don't think it's wrong." This is a bit of a stretch, as they insinuate that sharing MP3's is as criminal as stealing a CD from the store. Many people didn't see Napster as illegal since everyone was doing it and there were not any real consequences or explicit warnings from Napster...plus, some viewed it as synonymous to sharing tapes, since the quality is worse (kinda like recording off the radio) and besides, until this trial, no real law has been defined around MP3's. However, as an adult, you have to be very wary of anything that's too good to be true.
It's funny you should bring up lyrics in a discussion about Napster.
When I was in college, the hot thing to do was gopher lyrics off the "web". But, alas, in the begining of my sophomore year, it was declared illegal and shut down. Now-a-days, you can still find the lyrics you want, if you search for them, but I am not aware of such a centralized repository for them. (Of course, I'm not really looking anymore) I think that will be the case also with Napster, to some extent. From what I understand, (I could be wrong, and correct me if I am), Napster's biggest vulnerability (ie, the reason they can be easily attacked in court, not necessarily the reason they will lose in court) is that they have a centralized service. They have a point to attack.
Besides that, the reason they will probably lose in court is that they now sound like a little kid (I can't stop it, I didn't mean to do it, it's not my fault). That doen't play well on Judge Judy, and it doesn't play well in the real world either.
From what I have seen, Win2000 is not your father's NT. I've had lots of trouble keeping windows NT running my web apps, but windows 2000 seems more stable. I still have my doubts about it being better than any unix derivative, and so I moving all my code to platform independence, and it will probably end up on AIX (I am trying to get some linux/FreeBSD boxen up and running, but I have to clear off the servers running NT right now. (there are too many other employees who readily jump into the easy but proprietary trap where I work))
Why would you do that? There are already plenty of people who violate the GPL without paying a fee (and are probably not being caught). Go figure...you are assuming people let their conscience weigh in on their decisions.........
Ummmmmmm.... ever here of too little, too late?
Anyone who cracks into the blood supply data to reverse polarity has a serious mental/social development problems. Don't call yourslef a hacker or a cracker. Call yourself a terrorist. May you reap what you sow.
We, now that Redhat 7.0 beta is out, expect mandrake 8.0 "with all the redhat beta features".
* FreeBSD 4.1 can now be installed on an IPv6-only network - this will be the first release of FreeBSD that never needs to operate using IPv4 at all! ftp7.jp.freebsd.org (Listed as Japan #7 in sysinstall) is an IPv6-reachable mirror site for installation and package-fetching
The revolution has begun! IPV6-->and you thought the internet was already big enough.
is it just me or is social contract sound like a great Hitchcock title?
In this case though, its more like:
I bought a BRANDX safe, and I found out that for my particluar serial number of safe, the default combination is posted publicly. Do I:
A: break off the lever so even I can't open the safe.
B: monitor posted combinations and learn how to change my combination so I can when appropriate?
Although the thought comes to mind: "Nothing is foolproof". Is there such thing as absolute security?
Besides, that, it's a heck of a lot harder to be an administrator of an obfuscated machine just to keep it secure. And who is to say through obfucation itself, you didn't open more security holes?
If someone would have given Judge Kaplan this book, it would have been clear that programming is an artistic expression.
but could someone mirror the perfect mirror? theoretically?
Elimination of the need for optical amplifiers will cut the cost of deploying and maintaining optical networks. Combined with the increased bandwidth, it will allow network operators to slash cost-per-bit dramatically In other words, brace for a Time Warner/AOL buyout. Anyone want to bet on how long OmniGuide is it's own corp?
yes, yes. The old chicken and the egg. without rampant innovation (as in diverting from status quo) we wouldn't need standards, yet standards encourage a common ground, which then becomes staus quo (not to mention, standards are slow).
That's why you see a lot of big name companies designing specs before content, and others touting reference implementations. Also why sun is so darn picky about JAVA.
Take Microsoft features, copy it, improve it, and add it to KDE. So has GNOME's. If you ask me, there's not a lot of innovation going on.
Well, it certainly worked for Microsoft. Embrace and Extend. I like the improvements GNOME & KDE have made to little subtle things in the GUI. But, if you hate it that much, go back to proprietary, standardized systems. I don't think those developers for KDE and GNOME who put a lot of work and thought into thier products, and, BTW, write the code you are complaining about, will miss you that much. Just don't complain when you are boxed into a bad standard.
yes, but diversity & competition is what drives innovation.
I just hope that I can have the look still be professional
I don't know...I always thought KDE looked kindof windows3.1ish. I prefer the way HELIX Gnome looks, because, in my opinion, KDE looks childish. I've got them both loaded though.
Plus, both KDE and GNOME are pretty customizable, and a "professional look" is really a subjective term. For instance, who is to say even having a start menu bar is professional? Maybe the AIX CDE box is better.
So to take the analogy it to the nth degree, if someone invented a file sharing program that distributed illegal napster merchandise (t-shirts w/ logos, coffee cups,etc etc) ....
Are you really suprised that napster defends its logo etc etc? Not every company is a greatful dead company. Although it might be cool to have a bunch of bootlegs and mp3's of a band, it is definitely a threat to a business to have somebody ripping of your ideas and brand. We supposedly have these laws so mr. mom and pop can get a great idea, plop down a shop, and use the cops to keep WalMart from cloning them out of business.
Companies work hard to establish a brand. The company I work for sends out regulations and guidelines for the exact color size shape you can print our logo in. The web pages must meet a certain criteria so our customers are confident it is us. Other companies can't start using our logo on a whim
Corporations should be allowed to defend thier logos/original ideas, and metallica should be allowed to defend thier music.
YOPY= Your Own Personal YOPY
It is more likely that it will atrophy from it's failure to recognize when times "are a'changing"
Although I don't idolize the speaker, I couldn't help but think of this quote:
"And it ought to be remembered that there is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things. Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well under the new. This coolness arises partly from fear of the opponents, who have the laws on their side, and partly from the incredulity of men, who do not readily believe in new things until they have had a long experience of them. Thus it happens that whenever those who are hostile have the opportunity to attack they do it like partisans, whilst the others defend lukewarmly..." --Nicolo Machiavelli, The Prince as translated by W. K. Marriott
What would you do in a world where privacy is non-existent, and certainty absolute.
Try to find fiji.
a'la The Truman Show
This is the X-files. They don't have to kill him off. There are much more inventive ways to get rid of a character............
I think you need to study a little more american history before you claim america is "falling into" a moralist state. America is most likely falling out af a moralist state.
Anyways, what is so wrong about morality? If you don't believe in some sort of absolute standards (even if you can't always meet them (thus hypocrites) then you have to believe in relativistic ones. Do you know what that means? You can't tell other people that your stance or opinion ( or anything you believe is right) is any better than theirs. If that's what you believe, then how can you been so idignant that one choice is better than others? If there is no moral standard, then there is just majority standard (might makes right--->that's an oppresive regime). Besides, you have a big hangup about hypocrites. Just because you can't live up to a standard doesn't mean the standard is flawed, it means you are flawed. That's like claiming because there's an abundance of counterfiet money out there, real cash is worthless. Your entire argument is rubbish and has no logical platform.
BTW, it seems to me you don't belive in a hell, so how would you see anyone there?
BTW, you should quit condemning oppresive regimes, after all, what's to say they are wrong?
IE is is faster because it loads at boot time. JAva engine included.
while (rant) {
I am so sick of people complaining about something taking a little longer. Do you realize that even in internet time, it is better to build a good base and do it right and standardized? I write java servlets and it takes a bit longer than ASP but in the long run, it's much more competative because it is enterprise capable and extendable. So IE has neat little javascript rollovers, and startsup quicker...so what. What does that do for doing business over the web? The technologies coming in Mozilla and netscape look to be excellent for such things(ie, the java plugin etc.etc.) }
I'm not so sure this is correct. People will rewrite thier pages given that netscape or mozilla comes with a feature that defines the future of the web. If you've looked at mozilla lately,you will see that a lot of the stuff they are working on kicks. For example, the vector based image stuff. And thats one of 100.