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The Light of Other Days
It's a stone's throw into the future, and an aggressive Northwest coast company (hmmmm) has developed a new technology for sending data. Harnessing a small wormhole, people are able to send data through the worm hole instantaneously. Alright, suspend disbelief and give them the benefit of the doubt on that one. This piece is just in the very beginning, and things are gonna get a whole lot wackier as we go on.
Some sort of megalomaniac entrepeneur owns the company that patents this technology, as well as several media holdings. He realizes that light waves are just another form of information, and if he can send a wormhole to some programmed location, he gets the scoop on all of his competitors. What's it mean? He can examine documents on the desks of world leaders, catch the famous in all sorts of pecadilloes, and arrange coverage of natural disasters in intimate detail and immediately. As you may imagine, the government catches wind of this and things start going to hell. This is the most interesting central idea to this book. What happens when there is no privacy at all? When your neighbors could buy a machine that allows them to watch you shagging your girlfriend if they wanted to? How are people going to cope with such an open social environment?
But hang on space fans. While society is still reeling from this total loss of privacy, the company with the wormhole patent discovers that by adjusting its strnegth, you can actually watch things from the past as they happen. Eventually they work out sound and navigation, so you can in essence watch any point in history from any angle as many times as you want.
This is the other central theme of this book that makes it interesting. Faced with an infallible memory of events, do things get better or worse? We all lie to ourselves constantly. Memory is more of a negotiation between the brain and the psyche than any sort of reliable record. How do we survive when our illusions are stripped away from us, and we have no more excuses? Every one of your mistakes is there for you, to relive in technicolor as many times as it takes for you to slit your wrists. And soon, it's not only your own sins and errors that come back to haunt you, but those of your entire species. This book deals with the loss of our myths, illusions and constructed realities, and how we go about putting them all back into place.
What's Good?
The best part of this book is the strength of the central ideas. It is plain-old interesting to consider an eventuality where all pretenses of privacy are stripped away, where it becomes nearly impossible to drop off the grid. What lengths will people go to to avoid their spying neighbors? In the book, a secret society gets started to help some people hide themselves away, some people commit suicide and others just give in to it. What would you do?
Another fascinating aspect of this book is the rate of technological change that occurs in it. No sooner does society have to adjust to having no privacy in the present, but the technology shifts and they have to give up their privacy in the past as well as the wormhole is strengthened to allow real time observation of past events. People start to put wormholes in their heads to form some sort of thought collective (yes, like in Diamond Age) and the technology takes a further twist at the end of the book. This whirlwind tour of technological changes imparts a sense of how it must feel for the characters in the book.
Clarke and Baxter do an admirable job of weaving together their individual strengths as authors. The descriptions of the deep past, which is Baxter's purview, are compelling and the contributions of Clarke's are as obvious and as well produced. Baxter has proven to be a quality sci-fi writer and is ably supported by one of the mythic legends of the genre.
What's Bad?
The same whirlwind introduction of elements that are a strength of this story at times become ravelled at the edges and leave a feeling of plot holes. There were times that the story shifts so much that I felt like rubbing my neck in sympathethic whiplash pains. While this does create an impression of confusion that is appropriate to the central themes of the book, it is also distracting at points in the story.
Also, there is a good bit of this book that deals with the personal relationships of the main characters. It's not that these interactions are poorly done, it's just that I would have preferred that ink be spent on delving more into applications of the technology at the center of the story. Now, I'm not one of those wackos that is against any sort of attention to the personal lives of the characters in my sci-fi, but it seemed extraneous in this particular offering.
So What's In It For Me?
At the time of writing, this book is ubiquitous in airports and other places where they have paperback bestsellers available. The Light of Other Days is a perfect read for those types of "trapped-in-a-hellish-flying-box" kind of situations. It's a gripping, complex and thought-provoking book that does not get bogged down in obtuse situational plot devices.
While this may not ever become a classic of sci-fi, it is well worth the effort if you've been looking for something to read. This is definitely above the pack of recent sci-fi offerings and should catch your attention for some relaxing hours of speculation on how you would use your own personal wormhole.
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An inventor had developed a viewing-machine that let the user look into the past, by tracing tachyons or some residual radiation, etc etc, the idea being that they could tune the machine to ancient Rome and learn what actually happened at these events that modern history had blurred (because he was being funded by some museum). It also talked a bit about how he was forced to add filters on behalf of the Catholic Church, such that the device could never look at year 0 and verify (or disprove) the existance of Christ. But at the end of the story, the scientist is visited by the NSA, who try to sieze all of his work...
but the hero has outsmarted them, because in an Open Source fashion, he had mailed a copy of the plans to all of the major newspapers the day before. Then the government employee explains to him how his device could not only look on the far past, but at the near, 1 second ago past, and he was personally responsible for inventing the ultimate scrying device.
As to the blurb, I'm sure that you've all ready Harlequin and the Tick Tock Man? If not, why not?
Almost all crime would disappear. Would people embrace the lack of privacy or try to get the machines controlled. Of course dictators would try to control it and it would be a powerful tool for them, but they try to hide their own actions and lie about them, so as long as people are watching from free countries, it would seem to eventually lead to freedom everywhere (I think).
Would it hurt research for companies to know their competitors could spy on them? Of course, it would also make it easy for them to prove their competitors spied on them?
Would people become more puritanical, would life become like it is in a small town (only more so)? Or would people learn to accept the petty perversions and infidelities that we now hide?
Unlike time travel stories, there's at least no logical contradictions to viewing the past.
That'll learn me for walking away without hitting submit... by the time I got back, my story had been posted 3 times =)
Well, the Clarke/Baxter novel is dedicated to Bob Shaw, who wrote the "slow glass" story "Light of Other Days." So I think it's a good bet that the authors were conscious of the similarity in titles between their novel and Shaw's story. Both works derive their titles from a poem by Robert Herrick.
There was also an old Heinlein short story on this theme, or actually about someone
inventing a past-time viewing machine and then realizing that it could also
be used to spy on anyone (since "1 second ago" is also in the past).
Don't remember the name of the story offhand...
Card's book focuses on a controlled version of this type of viewing technology. I believe where only historians (and the government) are able to view the past. He also incorporates the theories of time travel regarding changes to the past causing all points thereafter to cease/diverge. Definitely a good read, portions of it could make a good preface to the storyline of "Light of Other Days."
The short story "Light of Other Days" by Bob Shaw appeared in a book "Other Days, Other Eyes". "Light of Other Days" was just a short interlude showing a slow glass farmer using the glass to remember his dead family. "Other Days, Other Eyes" told the full story of the development of slow glass, the way society was changed by it, and its eventual use for spying on the citizens.
Another part of the story was that the one scientist had accidentally killed his daughter in a "careless smoking" accident. His wife obsessed over the daughter, never knowing it was the husband who accidentally burned down the house... and he dreaded the release of the product, knowing his wife would one day re-live the daughter's life right up to the moment she died... and learn why.
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When your neighbors could buy a machine that allows them to watch you shagging your girlfriend if they wanted to?Well, almost.
Just remember that not only the FBI but also most cable companies already have the ability to drive past your house and see what's on your TV screen.
The tuner in your TV, VCR or cable box is superheterodyne, meaning it mixes a local oscillator with the incoming signal. The frequency of the local oscillator, when it's at the same frequency as a particular TV channel that you want to watch, produces a beat signal that is amplified by the electronics of the device.
Superhet is a great system, and that's why it's in virtually everything that receives RF. (I wonder if RCA still gets royalties on the patent?)
But, the signal of the local oscillator does leak out of the tuner, and if you look for it and measure its frequency, you know what the TV is tuned to.
ie. "That's very interesting. The house at 15 Robin Hood Lane has a TV set tuned to HBO, but they don't pay for HBO..."
When the cable guy rings your doorbell to do an unexpected "signal check", never let him in. If you're a cable thief, that is.
But that's not the only thing your TV set spits out. All conventional TV sets and monitors have very powerful circuits for deflecting the electron beams in the picture tube. They radiate a lot of electromagnetic energy. Now, the jury's still out on whether or not they cause any health effects, but I can promise you that they're very easy to detect.
Use the deflection signals from a TV set or monitor to point your antenna directly at it and sync your receiver to it.
Then, all you'd need to do is amplify the everything you're picking up in the 150kHz to 5MHz range, and use it to drive a CRT.
All of a sudden, the van parked in front of your house can see the creative accounting processes you use to keep your business afloat, as you type innocently away at your computer. Or they can see from your TV what kind of kinky movies you like. Etc.
Of course, you could wrap everything electronic in your house with aluminum foil connected to a cold water pipe or other suitable ground, but it detracts a little from their safety, working life and usefulness.
Privacy doesn't exist, hasn't for years, and that says nothing of cellular/cordless phones. Or listening devices that any ambitious high school kid can build with a laser pointer and a tripod, devices that can be positioned miles away from you and yet use your windows as listening devices. Nothing.
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>Some day we'll all know how big everyone's dick >is, how many times they take a shit, and what The real question is, why would would anyone want to know that! Let's face it....we're probably not all that exciting
He is quite old and looking very frail. It wouldn't surprise me at all, actually. I read one book with his name on it (something about an earthquake IIRC) and he virtually admitted as much in thr foreword - he came up with the idea, or edited it or something. (the book was arse BTW). Wasn't the last thing he wrote on his own (not co-authored) 3001? I don't think it was a coincidence that it was about a third the length of the prequels.
...was that, with the technology described in this novel, we'd finally find out for sure who assassinated John F. Kennedy.
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You're thinking of Factoring Humanity, by Robert Sawyer. It's a good book, particularly in the way he ties together such apparently unrelated fields as topology, quantum physics, and psychology.
The crypto fans on Slashdot will be amused by the subplot, wherein the protagonist's husband, a computer scientist, invents a quantum computer capable of easily performimg prime factorizations of large numbers, and thus breaking most of the world's cryptographic capability. He starts to get visits from mysterious characters who want to sequester the work.
A few things now adays qualify for automatic buys for me (regardless of reviews). Clarke and Assimov books, Blizzard games, and the first coffee I see in the morning. But even if I might not enjoy this as much as I do some of his other books I think this might be the "Brave New World" of 2000 as it seems that privacy is our main fear (for us geeks anyway). I assume it is well written and I will buy it probably this afternoon and download the Book on Tape from napster :)
The Dead Past
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First Published In: Astounding Science Fiction, April 1956, pp. 6-46
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Five-Odd, Groff Conklin, ed. Pyramid (pbk), 1964, pp. 8-54
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The Analog Anthology #1, Stanley Schmidt, ed. Davis Publications, 1981, pp. 187-260
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Good story. He used a different concept, that of neutrinos traveling forward in time could be read somehow.. Kinda nifty idea, anyway.
There was also a subplot going on about how knowledge had become so compartmentalized that nobody dared think outside their realm of expertise, as it were. It's a bit long for a short story though and tends to ramble, a lot like Asimov.
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I was hoping to make the same comment that you did, only I couldn't remember the story name or the author... looks like you got both right ;-)
If my memory is any good, Asimov wrote a story called "The Dead past", which covered this subject fairly well.
Jim Buchanan
At first I thought this was a review of a collection of Bob Shaw's (I think)"slow glass" stories, the first of which was "Light of Other Days" (written sometime in the mid 1960s).
Slow glass was a material that transmitted images (like glass) very, very slowly -- up to several years in some cases, but it could be manufactured with varying time thicknesses (eg "24 hours thick", or "2 years thick"). (Ignore for the sake of the story the physics problems of storing a few years worth of, say, sunlight in a material a few millimeters thick.)
In a later story (I forget the title) it turns out that the government is sowing the countryside with little beads of (differing time) slow-glass: a spying mechanism where you just collect up the glass beads later and look at what went on.
Slow glass itself is probably a physical impossibility, but the ubiquitous spying is not: imagine billions of nano-cams with varying amounts of storage, or some sort of cellular wireless communication. You could (well, almost -- as far as we know the state-of-the-art is not quite there) make them the size of ants, with sufficient ant-like AI to let them crawl around. Perhaps they relay their images to a "queen ant" with a little more processing ability and broadcast range. Optical quality per image might be low (given the tiny optics), but combining multiple images gets around that, you could even get good 3-D images with multiple sensors and good position information (a couple of pairs of queen ants could triangulate that).
A lot more likely than magic wormholes, they just don't give you a record any further back than their deployment.
-- Alastair
Replying to my own post, I've found a web page with a list of stories on this theme.
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So what happens when you get tired of watching N*t*l** P*rtm*n from fertilized ovum onward?
I looked into the abyss, and the abyss looked into me--and we both winked.
I thought that the central premise of "Light of Other Days" was that scientists had developed "slow glass" which let light through at such slow speeds that past events could be observed hours, days, or even months later. I read it in installments in Analog Science Fiction. The last installment I read had the government grinding up slow glass into dust-mote size particles and spreading it everywhere by aircraft. The idea being that it would be ubiqutious and, using microscopy, any past event could be observed. This story line sounds completely different. Has the title been recycled?
Another take on this..
Can't remember the name of it or even the author, but it's an interesting concept. Basically there have been these "alien" signals picked up for the last 20 years, repeating same time every day, with a different "image" on each one. They finally stop, one person puts the puzzle together and they build this machine that allows them to view the world in the 4th dimension. The authors take on the 4th dimension was kind of an "overmind" which could be used to view all peoples thoughts/memories etc. The aliens that have been broadcasting this message have also been travelling towards earth the entire time and they finally get here, the 2 overminds from the different planets finally touch and everybody on the world experiences true empathy.
Very interesting read.. I wish I could remember the authors name
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I wanted to post something along these lines too.
In my opinion, too many sci-fi authors delved headlong into the "science" behind the story (in fact just making possible conjecture related to "what we know" and in no way enhancing the story at all) and forget about the "people" in the story, or the story itself. Why complain when an author attempts to make a story a little more real by attaching a personality to the characters? If you want a dry science read, go pick up a science book. But for a sci-fi story, you don't need to know every detail of every possible scientific explaination for each situation presented. You need a good story, and an explaination of that story from human perspective. Like it or not, a big part of human life is about human interaction: relationships.
For a prime example of solid sci-fi (sometimes called space opera) look at the Hyperion/Endymion books by Dan Simmons. He gave very few scientific details, but makes you just *beg* for more. The whole thing is based on how personal relationships affect the outcome of the entire fate of humanity. That's good sci-fi. That's a good story.
Bite my yammer.
Allow me to be anal about the above statement:
I fully agree that at some point in the future, there may be a technology that will render privacy an obsolete notion, which will bring our Western society as we know it crashing down on it knees, never to return.
However, I'd like to draw a distinction between the destruction of "society" and of "humankind". Privacy going the way of the dodo will greatly affect North America and Europe - generally, the Developed worlds. However, it won't make a lick of difference to those squatting behind bushes waiting to club a rabbit or toiling away in rice paddies or herding sheep on a mountainside. Their society may change due to ours collapsing, but it won't be destroyed.
And as sad and fragile a species as we've become, we'll prevail. A lot of people might die while our societal paradigm changes, but homo sapiens will remain firmly glued to the face of this planet, and we'll continue on as best we know how.
My $0.005. (Government took the rest...)
Mr. Ska
Nice Pun. ;)
True, however it brings up the delimma of 'who will watch the watchmen.' In Larry Lessig's book, "Code and Other Laws of Cyberspace", he immediately quotes Dilbert's Guide to the Future: "[In the future, technology will prove 100% of the crimes, unfortunately it will also prove that 100% of us are criminals]". And Brin makes the point that we can either ALL have the technology to watch EVERYONE, including military leaders and politicians. Or we can let the leaders have it and just pretend that it doesn't exist.
So yes, in countries where only the government has the technology, they could use it to oppress. Just like guns. But what if everyone had it? Perhaps it is just a translation of the second amendment.
Perhaps some countries would expend massive amounts of military force to tightly control this technology (like China's media), but I doubt that could happen in America. Our citizenry is too armed and edgy and suspicious (and based more on $$$, not moral/ethical values). I think it would be hard to supress any sizeable sect in america. Even though secession is against federal law, if the Freemen or the Davidians had numbers in the millions, they wouldn't have lost to the Feds.
IMHO, I don't think the resolution of conflict in which all sides are armed with the same technology would be a "...a rather oppressive State with a large percentage of the population in jail..." as you put it.
I think there would be too much public sentiment in favor of this technology, and hopefully the muscle of the governement (the actual soldiers) would share the same.
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Are you cheating on your SOs? Embezzling? Consuming illegal substances (booze in the Middle East, Khat in the US) ? Praying to the wrong Ghods? Writing agaisnt the government?
Somewhere in the world one or more of those activies would get you into deep trouble. A fully transparent society would seem to lead either to a rather oppressive State with a large percentage of the population in jail or worse, or a small-l libratarian condition where most activities are OK.
In either case expect struggles, if not out and out warfare. Most people have certain activities that they can not tolerate other people doing.
What would you do in a world where privacy is non-existent, and certainty absolute.
Try to find fiji.
a'la The Truman Show
I need a TiVo for my car. Pause live traffic now.
This story sounds like the sequel to an excellent story by Isaac Asimov entitled, "The Dead Past" about a history professor who, with the aid of a physicist, builds a chronoscope, a device to see into the past in order to research Carthage, only to find out that it can only see up to 150 years in the past and that all supposed finds with the chronoscope were false!
In the end, the government tracks them down and explains to them that the past is not way back when, so many years ago as people are supposed to think, but NOW! The past can also be set for seconds! The present is always becoming the past! But alas, the physicist's Uncle Ralph, a science writer, has forwarded instructions for pocket chronoscopes to several magazines. The world is doomed.
"Happy goldfish bowl to you all," said (government guy's name), "and may you all burn in hell forever."
Quid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
Anything said in Latin, sounds profound.
Well, at least we'd be able to find out if RMS actually said this...
Uhm... No, the older story I remember with a similar concept is by Henry Kuttner:"The eye", don't know where it was first pubblished but it is in the anthology "Ahead of Time" (1953?).
Seipse "Slave, I've set my life upon a cast, and I will stand the hazard of the die." W.Shakespeare "Richard III", act
You know, that actually wouldn't surprise me.
It's probably a temporal bug in Perl 6.006_065; it's been a known bug ever since the slashdot rabbit holes were created, and a post from Signul_94956 (#473457) got sent through...
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Incidentally, won't that stop people from modding it *down* as well?
...and if the code is in Perl, maybe he'll just overflow a floating-point number, or force it into scientific notation...
Of course, by 2003, we'll have perl scripts identify the topic, and replay the top posts from 6 months ago. "Karma Whore Bots", if you will.
...and this wormhole device might be the only way to accurately look at old Slashdot postings, since they'd all be eaten by the database by then.
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"While this does create an impression of confusion that is appropriate to the central themes of the book, it is also distracting at points in the story."
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This seems to be a favored tactic of Clarke. Some of Stanley Kubrik's vagueness must have rubbed off on him.
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You know that at least part of the book will be satisfying to anyoen. While I've found stories with his name that are just crap, there's always been a section in every one that I can relate to.
Perhaps the most interesting thing is that usually Clarke runs just a little ahead of the trend: IE Released 2001 before it was possible, stuff like that. This time though, he's released it when it's immediately relevant. I wonder why??
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With that kinda bandwidth who cares who sees what they're doing? :)
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Isaac Asimov wrote a story based on a similar concept a number of years (decades?) ago. IIRC, the title was "The Dead Past".
Interestingly, the technology in Asimov's story developed the other way-- devices were created to view historical events, but were tremendously expensive, and tightly controlled by the government. A pair of maverick scientists discover that they can produce a working model from available parts, and release the plans to the world.
Unfortunately for society, it's only then, once it's too late, that they realize that the devices can also be used to view the past so recent, it's for all practical purposes the same as the present. All though the story ends before the social effects can become known, the implication is that this will cripple society.
There is no doubt that advanced technology developed by any civilization will eventually be what destroys it. In our society where we value our privacy so much, it will be the technology that destroys it. Face it, in our society, money drives all. We can't stop privacy from being taken away -- we can only delay such!
In a book like this, where the author is dealing with what happens when such a horrible technology is released, relationships matter very much. Just as Contact would be just another alien book without the relationships in it, which shaped it. It's a strength of an author to delve into personal realationships instead of dealing with the technology, especially when the technology is so far off that no one could possibly understand it now. IMHO that makes a book better. No win a book like Cryptonimicon, Stephenson has the option to explain the technologies, because they EXIST(most of them, that is).
"Cliff Lampe sheds light today on a book..."
I kinda find this ironic...was this choice of words intentional? :P
Just wondering...Kyle Johnson
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This is a great book w.r.t. combining technologies in creative ways. I mean, the wormhole starts as purely spacial in nature and is privately held. Then it becomes public domain just as they discover temporal placement, which eventually becomes public domain. But the coolest part of the book was the journey back in time following the mitochondrial DNA using AI recognition software. Excellent engineering twist.
I think the attempt at predicting the effect on pop culture was also worthy of a gold star. I loved the avant-garde beatnicks who lived naked in houses made of glass, as a blantant cultural metaphor. Same goes for the naked teenagers having sex everywhere.
The borg-like brain implants were kinda pushing it. I think such a small faction of paranoid people will exist that there wouldn't be enough funding to mass-market the inviso-suits. However, they would definitely be in the best interest of governments wanting to hide their spies, which would mean the suits would exist. But despite the availability of technology, the writer went through GREAT pains to cover every possible detail of how suit wearers would need to behave to avoid dropping DNA or being tracked. That was cool.
Read "The Transparent Society" by Brin. It reads more like a bunch of lectures than a discourse, but it covers many of the same concepts.
I'm firmly believe that in the future there will absolutely ZERO privacy: everyone will know everyting about everyone else. The challenge will be for all cultures to start ditching their modesty.
Some day we'll all know how big everyone's dick is, how many times they take a shit, and what kind of breakfast cereals they buy. Once a few decades of this kind of knowledge sinks in, modesty in these areas will seem as silly as being modest about showing your calves in a swimsuit, like in the 1910's.
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A bit on the loose side. But thanks anyway.
Orson Scott Card (of 'Enders Game' fame) wrote a book about this as well. It is called 'Pastwatch: the Redemption of Christopher Columbus.' It deals more with the implications of when studying history we find out that it has been changed from a future that no longer exists. Card makes this more interesting by going into why they changed it, and why it might need to be changed again.
A good book worth a read.