My generation has gotten a few monumental failures, some publicity stunts, and space robots (which are pretty cool, but not a whole lot of that man to the moon excitement stuff).
Gee way to describe what it feels like growing up under bush. Well if it's any consolation the space robot will be out of office in a few days;)
If it's any further consolation, they may have had the whole moon shot, and all that economic prosperity and social revolution, sex, drugs, and rock and roll, But at least their 401k's are taking a dive.
Usually they are served with Soju, which is Korean distilled rice wine. Take a drink and follow it with some greasy fried silk worms. At least that's how my roommate eat them.
It's not that disgusting really, I put it on par with eating chicharrones.
What was disgusting is when he made chicken giblet stir fry.
The "inability"/unwillingness to lie, be deceitful, or otherwise a bad human being is not indicative of lacking intelligence.
You are right it isn't. But I take it you haven't taken these test much, since the questions don't allow for honesty. They are absurd. I'm sure Google's is much better but the Sears-Homedepot-service job tests don't allow for that. You could be an upstanding pillar of society and answer it honestly and you would still "fail." I don't know why that is, maybe at one time they actually worked, and people cheating threw the curve so far out that you have to lie to fall within the mean, but the fact is, not lying = failure.
For example one of the questions I "failed" was "if an employe uses a sick day for things other than personal sickness should they be fired?" on a scale of 1 through 5. I thought "this company doesn't offer personal days, does not pay wages on any day missed and does not allow you to take days off otherwise until you've been there a year. Bassically if your car broke you'd have to take a sick day off to take care of it. So would it be morally right to take a day off for something like car repair or to tend to other obligations?" my answer was yes, so I answered no, it would not be right to fire the employee. You can take that as you want, the stated purpose of a sick day is a personal sickness. Either way, I'm done with college and unless the economy tanks harder than it has I won't have to see a service job again.
You get paid in the low sixes? that's cool. Though you might want to change your sig. Those of us just out of college in the low 5's might find that statement a little naive. I don't think most of the people who are having trouble with debt are your fellow low sixers.
Ok, no. You miss the point. It is for shielding from impact, solar radiation, structure, and insulation. You bury a airtight bladder and then surround it with these.
Am i the only one who got an image of an 1700's American style colony after reading the summery? "we saw the new brick mansion as we rode down the avenue in our moon buggy."
They are very valuable, They act as both an IQ test to see if you are too stupid to lie, and a drone test to see if you are the kind of person willing to sit in a cubicle and waste 40 minutes on something so stupid, with little to no promise of reward.
I used to do these right(i.e. lie) but then I started to just answer them honestly, and know what happened? I still got the job, but they had to sit me down and actually go over the results. Apparently when a cashier gives you back to much change you are supposed to tell her! Of course I just lied to the HR reps face and made her happy.
They are an interesting idea: make the person interviewing lose all respect and loath the business as incompetent within the first 15 minuets so they know exactly what they are getting. I guess that's why you only see these at entry level service jobs.
I go to college, I'm used to pseudo science and trickery. It seems every professor I've had the last two semesters was bent on convincing the class that far left ideology is correct, and the best way to prove this was by assigning reading completely devoid of fact and unrelated to class.
With that in mind, this story and that doctor don't surprise me at all, and go to the root of the problem. It ask questions I am still trying to answer: How do people hold a philosophical belief yet purposefully fake evidence to support their claim and yet not question the claim itself? If the only evidence supporting their claim is false information created by them yet is used by them to support it how do they not question their belief structure?
I was assigned a book to read in my sociology class that was little more then subjective rhetoric and purposely set up situations to justify policy decisions. The authors concern was the good of society. What good could come from acting on false information? Information that more objective studies in my economics class had proven to be completely false through rigorous documentation. If goal is helping society and beliefs are shown to not coincide with that goal, why do people chose their beliefs over their goal?
The goal of the doctor was probably to help people and he probably believed vaccines caused autism so he faked information that will more likely hurt people. His goal of helping people has failed miserably.
Same with these "hippies." Is it just human nature to value opinion over fact? How can we address this problem?
First thing I thought, maybe he signed up for the rewards program? or he has a warranty with them somewhere else? I'm a little skeptical these days of Internet claims where A mysteriously becomes B. Even an Encyclopedia Brown story has more facts than things like this.
Not really, no. Imagine if you made a page that was just like the front page of the paper with more adds, and just linked the headlines. it's taking their content to make money, not fair use. it doesn't really matter if the links are creating pageviews if they are being directed towards low value pages.
Books, knowledge stored out side our brains, the passing of this knowledge and people specializing for specific tasks.
Monkeys aren't much dumber than humans, they have similar hardware. What humans have over them is the ability to learn more and communicate. We write down thought processes and then overlay them on to the next generation who then modify and hopefully improve them, thereby allowing the same idea to be chewed over and improved for centuries. Each person is programed and runs the program, and the program has been being improved and added to for millennium.
Since Humans are social creatures you can't view landing on the moon as an individual accomplishment, but as the actions of a new type of entity to the world: a creature made up of smaller creatures. Who's memory is the pages of books and blueprints, and thinks through others.
Social complexity is the newest form of evolution for the mind. If you look at human societies it can be argued that innovations in social complexity and organizational efficiency drive innovation.
The "flower power" children's heroes were drug addicts who advocated neo-marxist policies that were devoid of reason, You don't often get a better recipe for failure. Still, for the most part what he said is true. Look at the 50's: institutional racism, sexual discrimination, J. Edgar Hoover, McCarthy, the ICC and CAB and other heavy handed regulatory bodies. I think things are getting better, hell once Obama calls off the DEA raids Pot will basically be legal in CA.
The author purposely set herself up to fail so she could prove her point, she used flawed criteria, she used very flawed methodology, and very flawed examples. What do you hope to accomplish by using that as your ideological base? All you will get is flawed results, GIGO.
Life sucking is a relative term based on individual perception, it isn't Uncle Sam's job to give people what they think they deserve. Wages are based on much more than capitalists exploiting workers. They involve such things as productive output, human capitol and S&D. Paying people more for work that isn't productive at that price will result in many problems. Fixing wages is about as smart as fixing the price of bread or gas. I don't get your anger, the general facts are pretty clear. You are advocating a position that is about as accurate as alchemy.
It's painfully obvious you have never done any research on labor markets aside from reading biased books pushing an agenda. America needs facts, not flawed partisan objectives. Please stop trying to hurt this country.
Do you know how biased you sound to other, more objective people when you act like being more cosmopolitan gives you some intrinsic value over others? Why don't you just come out and say "more civilized," or "more white," since you're making value judgments based on bias over reason anyways.
2007 is the interface the Devil uses. It seem I have to work some evil black magic just to get double space, and I'm certain I sold my soul trying to figure out how to paste unformatted plain text.
I will not work with 2007. Thats not some obstinate statement, it's quite literal, I will not work. It's like trying to run 240v electronics on 120v.
The thing that pisses me of mostly is they replaced the words with symbols. I know the word for "double space," I don't know what the symbol is! It's not like formating goes to some ancient part of the human brain where the symbolism for bullets is ingrained like it is for eat and sex.
Nickled and Dimed my ass. Have you read that book? or just post links to it? I have, and it's the saddest pile of crap ever. That book should be subtitled: On (Purposely) Failing to Get By in America. I honestly don't know what her and the others who push for the living wage expect to accomplish by basing their results on flawed methods, groupthink, and emotional rhetoric. The evidence is pretty straight forward, fixing wages above market values only results in a surplus of workers, AKA Unemployment. They are trying to hurt the people they want to help. That is insane subjective thinking over objective fact. Problems happen when the governments tries to ensure people get what they think they deserve, just look at what happened when the government started giving people houses they think they deserved.
Exactly, Live, because thats what you would do, sans flat-screen and car. But you would still live, as many hard working immigrants do today, Sharing rooms and taking mass transit. I'm fine with State welfare to keep people from starving and dying on the street. It is not good to use their power to give people what they think they deserve.
For about a year I worked 7PM to 7AM Monday through Saturday, for $8.00 an hour stacking boxes. thats 60 hours a week and $500. I lived fine, hell I could have had kids, but I saved it for college. I'm with you on the living wage bit, it's just your a fucking idiot with an inflated sense of "give me," a living wage in this country is $5 an hour tops. And you know what? it makes me hate the UAW even more because I realize what over indulged asshole they are, assembly line isn't Hard work, it's low stress mindless repetition that a trained monkey or immigrant can do. Hard work is having to deal with massive stress, deadlines, and a constantly changing environment that requires specialty knowledge. Work of the mind is hundred of times more valuable, and thousands of times harder.
I'm really glad we didn't have a "living wage" law that would have kept me from being hired and give me the opportunity to go on to college.
Of course our economy is service based, assholes like you acting in the interests of the "Working Man" have driven the industry away. Thanks for your help, now could you please stop?
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Actually it's more like punching poor people and students. Blood from a stone.
Or a shity hard drive.
That might sound like a joke, but I think you are on to something. Just have the arriving crew eat the former crew.
My generation has gotten a few monumental failures, some publicity stunts, and space robots (which are pretty cool, but not a whole lot of that man to the moon excitement stuff).
Gee way to describe what it feels like growing up under bush. Well if it's any consolation the space robot will be out of office in a few days ;)
If it's any further consolation, they may have had the whole moon shot, and all that economic prosperity and social revolution, sex, drugs, and rock and roll, But at least their 401k's are taking a dive.
Usually they are served with Soju, which is Korean distilled rice wine. Take a drink and follow it with some greasy fried silk worms. At least that's how my roommate eat them.
It's not that disgusting really, I put it on par with eating chicharrones.
What was disgusting is when he made chicken giblet stir fry.
but if we're gonna go to Mars or wherever, we'll need to bring our own protection.
Wait are you talking about the radiation or is this still the space sex thread?
The "inability"/unwillingness to lie, be deceitful, or otherwise a bad human being is not indicative of lacking intelligence.
You are right it isn't. But I take it you haven't taken these test much, since the questions don't allow for honesty. They are absurd. I'm sure Google's is much better but the Sears-Homedepot-service job tests don't allow for that. You could be an upstanding pillar of society and answer it honestly and you would still "fail." I don't know why that is, maybe at one time they actually worked, and people cheating threw the curve so far out that you have to lie to fall within the mean, but the fact is, not lying = failure.
For example one of the questions I "failed" was "if an employe uses a sick day for things other than personal sickness should they be fired?" on a scale of 1 through 5. I thought "this company doesn't offer personal days, does not pay wages on any day missed and does not allow you to take days off otherwise until you've been there a year. Bassically if your car broke you'd have to take a sick day off to take care of it. So would it be morally right to take a day off for something like car repair or to tend to other obligations?" my answer was yes, so I answered no, it would not be right to fire the employee. You can take that as you want, the stated purpose of a sick day is a personal sickness. Either way, I'm done with college and unless the economy tanks harder than it has I won't have to see a service job again.
You get paid in the low sixes? that's cool. Though you might want to change your sig. Those of us just out of college in the low 5's might find that statement a little naive. I don't think most of the people who are having trouble with debt are your fellow low sixers.
or you could tool the industry around it, nuclear base power. collect resources at night and then do the high energy smelting in the day.
What happened to him? Did he die of organ failure as the microscopic particles from its construction entered his blood stream?
Ok, no. You miss the point. It is for shielding from impact, solar radiation, structure, and insulation. You bury a airtight bladder and then surround it with these.
Am i the only one who got an image of an 1700's American style colony after reading the summery? "we saw the new brick mansion as we rode down the avenue in our moon buggy."
Well they would have to take that class, because when they go for the job the personality test would flag them.
They are very valuable, They act as both an IQ test to see if you are too stupid to lie, and a drone test to see if you are the kind of person willing to sit in a cubicle and waste 40 minutes on something so stupid, with little to no promise of reward.
I used to do these right(i.e. lie) but then I started to just answer them honestly, and know what happened? I still got the job, but they had to sit me down and actually go over the results. Apparently when a cashier gives you back to much change you are supposed to tell her! Of course I just lied to the HR reps face and made her happy.
They are an interesting idea: make the person interviewing lose all respect and loath the business as incompetent within the first 15 minuets so they know exactly what they are getting. I guess that's why you only see these at entry level service jobs.
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I go to college, I'm used to pseudo science and trickery. It seems every professor I've had the last two semesters was bent on convincing the class that far left ideology is correct, and the best way to prove this was by assigning reading completely devoid of fact and unrelated to class.
With that in mind, this story and that doctor don't surprise me at all, and go to the root of the problem. It ask questions I am still trying to answer: How do people hold a philosophical belief yet purposefully fake evidence to support their claim and yet not question the claim itself? If the only evidence supporting their claim is false information created by them yet is used by them to support it how do they not question their belief structure?
I was assigned a book to read in my sociology class that was little more then subjective rhetoric and purposely set up situations to justify policy decisions. The authors concern was the good of society. What good could come from acting on false information? Information that more objective studies in my economics class had proven to be completely false through rigorous documentation. If goal is helping society and beliefs are shown to not coincide with that goal, why do people chose their beliefs over their goal?
The goal of the doctor was probably to help people and he probably believed vaccines caused autism so he faked information that will more likely hurt people. His goal of helping people has failed miserably.
Same with these "hippies." Is it just human nature to value opinion over fact? How can we address this problem?
First thing I thought, maybe he signed up for the rewards program? or he has a warranty with them somewhere else? I'm a little skeptical these days of Internet claims where A mysteriously becomes B. Even an Encyclopedia Brown story has more facts than things like this.
Not really, no. Imagine if you made a page that was just like the front page of the paper with more adds, and just linked the headlines. it's taking their content to make money, not fair use. it doesn't really matter if the links are creating pageviews if they are being directed towards low value pages.
Books, knowledge stored out side our brains, the passing of this knowledge and people specializing for specific tasks.
Monkeys aren't much dumber than humans, they have similar hardware. What humans have over them is the ability to learn more and communicate. We write down thought processes and then overlay them on to the next generation who then modify and hopefully improve them, thereby allowing the same idea to be chewed over and improved for centuries. Each person is programed and runs the program, and the program has been being improved and added to for millennium.
Since Humans are social creatures you can't view landing on the moon as an individual accomplishment, but as the actions of a new type of entity to the world: a creature made up of smaller creatures. Who's memory is the pages of books and blueprints, and thinks through others.
Social complexity is the newest form of evolution for the mind. If you look at human societies it can be argued that innovations in social complexity and organizational efficiency drive innovation.
The "flower power" children's heroes were drug addicts who advocated neo-marxist policies that were devoid of reason, You don't often get a better recipe for failure. Still, for the most part what he said is true. Look at the 50's: institutional racism, sexual discrimination, J. Edgar Hoover, McCarthy, the ICC and CAB and other heavy handed regulatory bodies. I think things are getting better, hell once Obama calls off the DEA raids Pot will basically be legal in CA.
The author purposely set herself up to fail so she could prove her point, she used flawed criteria, she used very flawed methodology, and very flawed examples. What do you hope to accomplish by using that as your ideological base? All you will get is flawed results, GIGO.
Life sucking is a relative term based on individual perception, it isn't Uncle Sam's job to give people what they think they deserve. Wages are based on much more than capitalists exploiting workers. They involve such things as productive output, human capitol and S&D. Paying people more for work that isn't productive at that price will result in many problems. Fixing wages is about as smart as fixing the price of bread or gas. I don't get your anger, the general facts are pretty clear. You are advocating a position that is about as accurate as alchemy.
It's painfully obvious you have never done any research on labor markets aside from reading biased books pushing an agenda. America needs facts, not flawed partisan objectives. Please stop trying to hurt this country.
Do you know how biased you sound to other, more objective people when you act like being more cosmopolitan gives you some intrinsic value over others? Why don't you just come out and say "more civilized," or "more white," since you're making value judgments based on bias over reason anyways.
2007 is the interface the Devil uses. It seem I have to work some evil black magic just to get double space, and I'm certain I sold my soul trying to figure out how to paste unformatted plain text.
I will not work with 2007. Thats not some obstinate statement, it's quite literal, I will not work. It's like trying to run 240v electronics on 120v.
The thing that pisses me of mostly is they replaced the words with symbols. I know the word for "double space," I don't know what the symbol is! It's not like formating goes to some ancient part of the human brain where the symbolism for bullets is ingrained like it is for eat and sex.
Nickled and Dimed my ass. Have you read that book? or just post links to it? I have, and it's the saddest pile of crap ever. That book should be subtitled: On (Purposely) Failing to Get By in America. I honestly don't know what her and the others who push for the living wage expect to accomplish by basing their results on flawed methods, groupthink, and emotional rhetoric. The evidence is pretty straight forward, fixing wages above market values only results in a surplus of workers, AKA Unemployment. They are trying to hurt the people they want to help. That is insane subjective thinking over objective fact. Problems happen when the governments tries to ensure people get what they think they deserve, just look at what happened when the government started giving people houses they think they deserved.
I'm glad I don't have to live in those conditions
Exactly, Live, because thats what you would do, sans flat-screen and car. But you would still live, as many hard working immigrants do today, Sharing rooms and taking mass transit. I'm fine with State welfare to keep people from starving and dying on the street. It is not good to use their power to give people what they think they deserve.
For about a year I worked 7PM to 7AM Monday through Saturday, for $8.00 an hour stacking boxes. thats 60 hours a week and $500. I lived fine, hell I could have had kids, but I saved it for college. I'm with you on the living wage bit, it's just your a fucking idiot with an inflated sense of "give me," a living wage in this country is $5 an hour tops. And you know what? it makes me hate the UAW even more because I realize what over indulged asshole they are, assembly line isn't Hard work, it's low stress mindless repetition that a trained monkey or immigrant can do. Hard work is having to deal with massive stress, deadlines, and a constantly changing environment that requires specialty knowledge. Work of the mind is hundred of times more valuable, and thousands of times harder.
I'm really glad we didn't have a "living wage" law that would have kept me from being hired and give me the opportunity to go on to college.
Of course our economy is service based, assholes like you acting in the interests of the "Working Man" have driven the industry away. Thanks for your help, now could you please stop?