well, if you didn't see the history just by the western/north/east Europe view you would know that the Byzantines empire was just a late roman empire, so they kept almost all the tech and used it... later the Muslims/Turks acquired most of those technologies , used then, even improved then and spread to other places... including back to some of the old western roman empire countries (north of Africa and Iberia)
Sadly the existence of too many kingdoms, lack of money, constant war and general lack of interest of the kings/lords/masters for their populations well being limited most of those techs to the top classes
>I just feel that the file Linux file system is needlessly complicated and counterintuitive.
Again, the unix filesystem isnt set to help the user see the apps (ie: be intuitive), its set to help the system work better, using less resources and be flexible
yes, its look complicated because of extremely technical and logic reasons... for a single user desktop system it IS a overkill, but its even worst to try to reinvent the wheel with a new layout, just to look better... its possible to put one big dir for the libs and "shared" files, another for the binaries (apps)... or a dir for each package, but you will get a slower and rigid file system with very little benefits.(and lots of work)
every dir is located in special places so one can mount different thing read+write or read-only, via local devices or network shares, etc one technical user may understand the layout, one normal user will never, there are just "too many dirs"... but again, that layout isnt for the user, its for the system... its just like the "c:/windows" mess... for a normal user, its a mess, for the windows developer it may have some logic.
All OS try to hide the technical part of the filesystems and show up only the "user part"... take MacOSX, Android, Amiga or even DOS (the c:\dos and the "%PATH%") do that... and the more you see it, the more confusing it looks
they probably are doing something like the below script please ignore the invalid IPs, localhosts, private ips, multicast, etc, this is just a quick script... a perl version would probably be faster and more intelligent:)
for a in {0..255} ; do
for b in {0..255};do
for c in {0..255} ; do
for d in {0..255} ; do
echo | openssl s_client -connect $a.$b.$c.$d:443 2>/dev/null | sed -n 's%0 s:.*/CN=\([^/]*\).*%\1%gp' > https.log
echo | openssl s_client -starttls smtp -connect $a.$b.$c.$d:25 2>/dev/null | sed -n 's%0 s:.*/CN=\([^/]*\).*%\1%gp' >> smtp.log
echo | openssl s_client -starttls imap -connect $a.$b.$c.$d:993 2>/dev/null | sed -n 's%0 s:.*/CN=\([^/]*\).*%\1%gp' >> imap.log
echo | openssl s_client -starttls pop -connect $a.$b.$c.$d:995 2>/dev/null | sed -n 's%0 s:.*/CN=\([^/]*\).*%\1%gp' >> pop.log
echo | openssl s_client -starttls ftp -connect $a.$b.$c.$d:21 2>/dev/null | sed -n 's%0 s:.*/CN=\([^/]*\).*%\1%gp' >> ftp.log
done
done
done done
it will take a few... weeks... months maybe, but it will return the SSL CN for all IPs bugs: dont know how the wildcard certs will show up, doesn't show the certs alias and probably more bugs:)
AD works for windows, but only windows... if you have MacOSX, Linux, Solaris, etc you need more tools or at least more cross-platform ones... the AD LDAP part can be replaced easily and most of the time you can still use the same windows tools... with samba 4 you will be able to replace the AD totally
finally, you can use policy setting in most linux apps, just set the config and change the permission of the config file
if you are happily to pay to have that working in linux, just write the keyboard maker, mixcraft, ubuntu and anyone you remember saying that... you will pay X to get the keyboard working on linux... this will make 2 things: you will probably get someone to help you with it and you are telling the important people that they should support linux
i know little about MIDI, but most probably the problem is that there is no sound bank loaded to the MIDI... and they aren't installed by default because they are usually with restrictive copyright. usually you have to copy then from the windows drivers or something
>There's just something completely unintuitive about the Linux filesystem for Windows users
how windows filesystem is intuitive? even MS tried several times hide the filesystem, because it confuses users! in unix, the filesystem for the users is its $HOME, nothing more... the real system filesystem is more complex, but very useful... but a normal user have no place in there (that is why only root can change it), just like a windows user should not try to use the c:/windows/* filesystem
>the issue is at the device should be at the absolute root of the file system
why? how do you know in the middle of 5 devices where is the one you want?
Any linux graphical file manager show the devices as you want, you click on it and they show up on the root of the device... who cares if they are in/media/cdrom or in cdrom:/ or d:/
check the MacOSX example... you see the devices as you want on the desktop... yet, they are really in/Volume/pendrive/... how is that different from windows d:/ ? you have some random bits before the device root, that the GUI automatically takes care... ohh... do you want to use the command line? sure, just use the device path... is too big? do sudo ln -s/media/crom/d and start to use that as reference ( ie: cd/d )... but if you use the command line, you should already know that you could do that...
On another news, you clearly don't understand the power of being able to mount a device in any place, in windows users usually have a drive letter and when its getting full you have to reinstall apps on another partition/disk... adding more devices and move data will break most windows apps. On unix, you move some dir over the new device, mount that device in the same place where the data was and everything works fine... sure, windows can also do that, but how many people you know ever used that? why, because is very hidden and user unfriendly to most apps
your problem is nothing more than "i have to learn something different and dont want to"
Maybe the problem isnnt in the graphic card drivers but in the PSU or MB or other drivers? or maybe too old drivers?
the bigger problem i (sometime) have is the GPU lockup, but the drivers reset the card and recovers everything (just have a few seconds freeze)... and even that was on new games with old drivers... updating the driver fixed that too.
Just scroll down... and down, and down... you will get the answers that google indexed. but remember, you must click on the link shown on google, dont try to search directly on the site
IMHO, they lost many support when they start to and still insist in release versions with high profile bug just to fulfill the release date. (even blockers, like the lack of 3G network, locking out many users for even search for a solution). there is no real reason to do that... EVER! its just the type of things that Microsoft do and is very bad for ubuntu to do it also, breaks the final idea that linux and ubuntu "always works fine"... ubuntu release many unstable or broken software.
Also, forcing the changing the look and feel made several people unhappy, a simple optional flag during the install to use the old look and theme would be enough... yes, users can change everything, but users that want and/or know how to do it usually dont use ubuntu.
ubuntu is user friendly, but not always listen to its users and the one-size-fits-all is always a problem
another thing is that many bug are closed too fast without solution, looks like that the ubuntu team needs to keep a "open bug" metric low and rush several bugs
finally, ubuntu is now the biggest distro and as again, one size-fits-all doesnt work, people with other needs and tastes dont like that some ubuntu choices are affecting then... ubuntu is a little arrogant to other distros
Die-hard Slackware users will hack the game, libraries and play with symlinks and LD_LIBRARY_PATHs environment to put the game running on the slackware... no need for ubuntu... You see, that is what you gain by knowing how the system works, you can fix/tune it for your needs!:)
i didnt post that graph, but the received mails for the last year for those servers is "constant", we dont see a rise nor drop (except a big drop in this week)
in previous years i got more spam in November and first 20 days of December than the rest of the year... this year i get less spam during the same time
i see spam detection dropping and i'm not seeing more spam entering the filters (other than the Christmas cards emails from all our partners and clients;) )
in the previous years, i would see a big increase of spam since November until Christmas, this is the first time in years that i get less spam in Christmas than the rest of the year... i see now that i'm not the only one
i have a usual level of spam of 60% during the year and its now on a spam ratio of 25% (but this week is usually a slow week for spam every year)
If the documents where from France or even Luxemburg, but said exactly the same, the US people would not tell that it was anti-US agenda... sure, they could not like some parts, but would not see it as a direct attack, as those docs affect most international politic leaders, as long they are from a "credible" country, they show the diplomatic point of view of many countries and leaders
if you dont like that US diplomats look like spies, maybe the US should not their diplomats and embassies as intel gathering platforms
In many European countries, privacy is important, so not even the CEO can read the employees mailboxes, it need a court order to do that ( on some countries a company with a internal process against the user might gain access to the email, see the "lex nokia" )... by mailbox, read email for one user, email address set to generic accounts (like postmaster) or shared emails ( like support) aren't usually included here Add a few "personal" or "private" folders and you gain another lever of "possible protection" (possible, as most countries allow judges to apply laws a little different depending on the charges)
Most home routers are from or supplied by the ISP, so its their job to help the user to upgrade.
All ISP now for a LONG time that IPV6 is here and that they should have prepare sooner... the longer they ignore the problem, the harder will be for them
finally, old OS without ipv6 support need to upgrade or extend (maybe via 3rd party software)... XP DO have ipv6 support, when replacing modem/routers, ISPs should help (docs and maybe a "upgrade team") clients.
if a ISP want our money, they better do (finally) something about ipv6... they are the most affected about the ipv4 to ipv6 migration, they should have start working on that years ago (like giving routers with ipv6 support already)
it should not happen, but we are all humans (i think!!) and human people do mistakes (and scripts/robots break and fail by the way)
all of us that administer servers have done some mistake in the past and probably will make more in the future. We can try to put enough road blocks to reduce the severity of the mistake, but they happen.
so as "sh*t happens", the openness and honesty of mozilla is to praise, most close source companies would try to hide and ignore things like this.
The problem is the asshats that came up with IPV6. It should be scrapped here and now. IPV6 is just plain and simple flat out stupid.
Nope, the problem is you and people that think like you...
ipv4 is reaching the limit, the only way to fix this is to extend the protocol and that required that EVERY PLACE to be updated or else cant reach the new addresses (or even worst, crash) so the energy to extend ipv4 is the same as implementing ipv6.
ipv6 is not ipv4?! sure, its a lot better than ipv4 in almost everything, so its the way to go... you dont like it? fine, stay in ipv4.
2600000.35.1254.1785 Is one hell of a lot easier to remember then 2001:0db8:85a3:0000:0000:8a2e:0370:7334.
1- yah right, my mother cant remember a phone number, it will remember the IP (ipv4, ipv6, whatever) 2- DNS solve this problem... again... dont want to memorize that?! use DNS... repeat until you memorize this or the ipv6 3- if you knew a little about ipv6, you would know that the first 64 bits are the network segment and using ipv6 you easily remember that part, because its yours!! its just like the "192.168.5.x" of a LAN network
the local part, the last 64bits is the MAC address, or if you dont like, put anything you want, easy for you to remember... like::1 or::31337 4- again, how many times do you really uses IP in ipv4? really? internet ones are copy&paste, almost no one memorize ever want to memorize then
local IPs are sometimes used, because they are easy to remember (after memorize the local network part) and fast to type... but ipv6 can also have those, the local part and the "host" part, both you can memorize and tune with time
hey, if its too much work... see topic 2... or use some post-it
you also have bounjour/avahi/zeroconf/etc to help you resolving local networks, all modern OS support it
yep, ipv6 its bigger and might be harder to memorize than ipv4, like its usually easier to memorize a phone number than ipv4... or to the extreme, memorize a ATM pin... when you increase the bits of information, you require more work to memorize it, but that is a price to pay for more bits of info
for the::, i agree that multiple:: should have been allowed, but hey, DNS is there to hide all that
show me a system/big apps without bugs... the main problem is that in closed apps you dont even see the bugs and most people dont even report then, so they stay hidden for years (are you listen MS!!)
the fact that you can count bugs doesnt mean they are all the in the same level of importance, many of then might even be enhancement bugs
but hey, if you dont like FF, use other browsers, as long they respect the standards, its fine!
so you are comparing the firefox and IE memory usage... dont forget that IE is integrated in the windows, so not everything he uses is inside the IE process...
even in your example, you have only one IE open, but there is 2 of then in the process list (one with 16MB and another with 6MB)
shutdown the IE, check if there is no IE process and open it again... opens very fast right? sure, most of its components where not unloaded, yet you had no IE process, so where is the memory usage of those components?
i'm not saying that FF uses less RAM than IE, but comparing things like this is totally unfair and lying to yourself.
for what i see, i would say that FF uses too much ram every time a picture is loaded... not a leak, but some sort of uncompressed storage for some kinds of images (i suspect animated gif), but might be that the images of today are "huge" compared with the past image size... the other browsers usually also eat lot of ram when loading images (small or big, pictures or graphics)
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well, if you didn't see the history just by the western/north/east Europe view you would know that the Byzantines empire was just a late roman empire, so they kept almost all the tech and used it... later the Muslims/Turks acquired most of those technologies , used then, even improved then and spread to other places... including back to some of the old western roman empire countries (north of Africa and Iberia)
Sadly the existence of too many kingdoms, lack of money, constant war and general lack of interest of the kings/lords/masters for their populations well being limited most of those techs to the top classes
>I just feel that the file Linux file system is needlessly complicated and counterintuitive.
Again, the unix filesystem isnt set to help the user see the apps (ie: be intuitive), its set to help the system work better, using less resources and be flexible
yes, its look complicated because of extremely technical and logic reasons... for a single user desktop system it IS a overkill, but its even worst to try to reinvent the wheel with a new layout, just to look better...
its possible to put one big dir for the libs and "shared" files, another for the binaries (apps)... or a dir for each package, but you will get a slower and rigid file system with very little benefits.(and lots of work)
every dir is located in special places so one can mount different thing read+write or read-only, via local devices or network shares, etc
one technical user may understand the layout, one normal user will never, there are just "too many dirs"... but again, that layout isnt for the user, its for the system... its just like the "c:/windows" mess... for a normal user, its a mess, for the windows developer it may have some logic.
All OS try to hide the technical part of the filesystems and show up only the "user part"... take MacOSX, Android, Amiga or even DOS (the c:\dos and the "%PATH%") do that... and the more you see it, the more confusing it looks
they probably are doing something like the below script :)
please ignore the invalid IPs, localhosts, private ips, multicast, etc, this is just a quick script... a perl version would probably be faster and more intelligent
for a in {0..255} ; do ;do :443 2>/dev/null | sed -n 's%0 s:.*/CN=\([^/]*\).*%\1%gp' > https.log :25 2>/dev/null | sed -n 's%0 s:.*/CN=\([^/]*\).*%\1%gp' >> smtp.log :993 2>/dev/null | sed -n 's%0 s:.*/CN=\([^/]*\).*%\1%gp' >> imap.log :995 2>/dev/null | sed -n 's%0 s:.*/CN=\([^/]*\).*%\1%gp' >> pop.log :21 2>/dev/null | sed -n 's%0 s:.*/CN=\([^/]*\).*%\1%gp' >> ftp.log
for b in {0..255}
for c in {0..255} ; do
for d in {0..255} ; do
echo | openssl s_client -connect $a.$b.$c.$d
echo | openssl s_client -starttls smtp -connect $a.$b.$c.$d
echo | openssl s_client -starttls imap -connect $a.$b.$c.$d
echo | openssl s_client -starttls pop -connect $a.$b.$c.$d
echo | openssl s_client -starttls ftp -connect $a.$b.$c.$d
done
done
done
done
it will take a few... weeks... months maybe, but it will return the SSL CN for all IPs :)
bugs: dont know how the wildcard certs will show up, doesn't show the certs alias and probably more bugs
You have to use the correct tools... try puppet as the number of server increase
for AD like, try likewise or esoeproject.org
AD works for windows, but only windows... if you have MacOSX, Linux, Solaris, etc you need more tools or at least more cross-platform ones... the AD LDAP part can be replaced easily and most of the time you can still use the same windows tools... with samba 4 you will be able to replace the AD totally
finally, you can use policy setting in most linux apps, just set the config and change the permission of the config file
if you are happily to pay to have that working in linux, just write the keyboard maker, mixcraft, ubuntu and anyone you remember saying that... you will pay X to get the keyboard working on linux... this will make 2 things: you will probably get someone to help you with it and you are telling the important people that they should support linux
i know little about MIDI, but most probably the problem is that there is no sound bank loaded to the MIDI... and they aren't installed by default because they are usually with restrictive copyright. usually you have to copy then from the windows drivers or something
>There's just something completely unintuitive about the Linux filesystem for Windows users
how windows filesystem is intuitive? even MS tried several times hide the filesystem, because it confuses users!
in unix, the filesystem for the users is its $HOME, nothing more... the real system filesystem is more complex, but very useful... but a normal user have no place in there (that is why only root can change it), just like a windows user should not try to use the c:/windows/* filesystem
>the issue is at the device should be at the absolute root of the file system
why? how do you know in the middle of 5 devices where is the one you want?
Any linux graphical file manager show the devices as you want, you click on it and they show up on the root of the device... /media/cdrom or in cdrom:/ or d:/
who cares if they are in
check the MacOSX example... you see the devices as you want on the desktop... yet, they are really in /Volume/pendrive/ ... how is that different from windows d:/ ? you have some random bits before the device root, that the GUI automatically takes care... /media/crom /d and start to use that as reference ( ie: cd /d ) ... but if you use the command line, you should already know that you could do that...
ohh... do you want to use the command line? sure, just use the device path... is too big? do sudo ln -s
On another news, you clearly don't understand the power of being able to mount a device in any place, in windows users usually have a drive letter and when its getting full you have to reinstall apps on another partition/disk... adding more devices and move data will break most windows apps.
On unix, you move some dir over the new device, mount that device in the same place where the data was and everything works fine...
sure, windows can also do that, but how many people you know ever used that? why, because is very hidden and user unfriendly to most apps
your problem is nothing more than "i have to learn something different and dont want to"
Maybe the problem isnnt in the graphic card drivers but in the PSU or MB or other drivers? or maybe too old drivers?
the bigger problem i (sometime) have is the GPU lockup, but the drivers reset the card and recovers everything (just have a few seconds freeze)... and even that was on new games with old drivers... updating the driver fixed that too.
Just scroll down... and down, and down... you will get the answers that google indexed.
but remember, you must click on the link shown on google, dont try to search directly on the site
IMHO, they lost many support when they start to and still insist in release versions with high profile bug just to fulfill the release date. (even blockers, like the lack of 3G network, locking out many users for even search for a solution). there is no real reason to do that... EVER! its just the type of things that Microsoft do and is very bad for ubuntu to do it also, breaks the final idea that linux and ubuntu "always works fine"... ubuntu release many unstable or broken software.
Also, forcing the changing the look and feel made several people unhappy, a simple optional flag during the install to use the old look and theme would be enough... yes, users can change everything, but users that want and/or know how to do it usually dont use ubuntu.
ubuntu is user friendly, but not always listen to its users and the one-size-fits-all is always a problem
another thing is that many bug are closed too fast without solution, looks like that the ubuntu team needs to keep a "open bug" metric low and rush several bugs
finally, ubuntu is now the biggest distro and as again, one size-fits-all doesnt work, people with other needs and tastes dont like that some ubuntu choices are affecting then... ubuntu is a little arrogant to other distros
Die-hard Slackware users will hack the game, libraries and play with symlinks and LD_LIBRARY_PATHs environment to put the game running on the slackware... no need for ubuntu... :)
You see, that is what you gain by knowing how the system works, you can fix/tune it for your needs!
www.dogpile.com also do multi-search-engines lookups and combines them... i use it sometimes
i didnt post that graph, but the received mails for the last year for those servers is "constant", we dont see a rise nor drop (except a big drop in this week)
Even better, this university gets a lot more spam than i and check the graphs
http://picpaste.com/mx-fx7b1NOG.png
check http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34710824
in previous years i got more spam in November and first 20 days of December than the rest of the year... this year i get less spam during the same time
i see spam detection dropping and i'm not seeing more spam entering the filters (other than the Christmas cards emails from all our partners and clients ;) )
check http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34710824
so this isnt just a failing in detection, its really less spam entering
i cant give you those answers, but i see a similar trend, spam is dropping since end of August/start of September
check the graph (rejects and spam tags are spam):
http://picpaste.com/spam.png
in the previous years, i would see a big increase of spam since November until Christmas, this is the first time in years that i get less spam in Christmas than the rest of the year... i see now that i'm not the only one
i have a usual level of spam of 60% during the year and its now on a spam ratio of 25% (but this week is usually a slow week for spam every year)
If the documents where from France or even Luxemburg, but said exactly the same, the US people would not tell that it was anti-US agenda... sure, they could not like some parts, but would not see it as a direct attack, as those docs affect most international politic leaders, as long they are from a "credible" country, they show the diplomatic point of view of many countries and leaders
if you dont like that US diplomats look like spies, maybe the US should not their diplomats and embassies as intel gathering platforms
how do you know they aren't "holding back" something?
at very least, redact info is "holding back" info and only they know how much is cut off
In many European countries, privacy is important, so not even the CEO can read the employees mailboxes, it need a court order to do that ( on some countries a company with a internal process against the user might gain access to the email, see the "lex nokia" ) ... by mailbox, read email for one user, email address set to generic accounts (like postmaster) or shared emails ( like support) aren't usually included here
Add a few "personal" or "private" folders and you gain another lever of "possible protection" (possible, as most countries allow judges to apply laws a little different depending on the charges)
Most home routers are from or supplied by the ISP, so its their job to help the user to upgrade.
All ISP now for a LONG time that IPV6 is here and that they should have prepare sooner... the longer they ignore the problem, the harder will be for them
finally, old OS without ipv6 support need to upgrade or extend (maybe via 3rd party software) ... XP DO have ipv6 support, when replacing modem/routers, ISPs should help (docs and maybe a "upgrade team") clients.
if a ISP want our money, they better do (finally) something about ipv6... they are the most affected about the ipv4 to ipv6 migration, they should have start working on that years ago (like giving routers with ipv6 support already)
it should not happen, but we are all humans (i think!!) and human people do mistakes (and scripts/robots break and fail by the way)
all of us that administer servers have done some mistake in the past and probably will make more in the future. We can try to put enough road blocks to reduce the severity of the mistake, but they happen.
so as "sh*t happens", the openness and honesty of mozilla is to praise, most close source companies would try to hide and ignore things like this.
The problem is the asshats that came up with IPV6. It should be scrapped here and now. IPV6 is just plain and simple flat out stupid.
Nope, the problem is you and people that think like you...
ipv4 is reaching the limit, the only way to fix this is to extend the protocol and that required that EVERY PLACE to be updated or else cant reach the new addresses (or even worst, crash)
so the energy to extend ipv4 is the same as implementing ipv6.
ipv6 is not ipv4?! sure, its a lot better than ipv4 in almost everything, so its the way to go... you dont like it? fine, stay in ipv4.
2600000.35.1254.1785
Is one hell of a lot easier to remember then
2001:0db8:85a3:0000:0000:8a2e:0370:7334.
1- yah right, my mother cant remember a phone number, it will remember the IP (ipv4, ipv6, whatever) ::1 or ::31337
2- DNS solve this problem... again... dont want to memorize that?! use DNS... repeat until you memorize this or the ipv6
3- if you knew a little about ipv6, you would know that the first 64 bits are the network segment and using ipv6 you easily remember that part, because its yours!! its just like the "192.168.5.x" of a LAN network
the local part, the last 64bits is the MAC address, or if you dont like, put anything you want, easy for you to remember... like
4- again, how many times do you really uses IP in ipv4? really? internet ones are copy&paste, almost no one memorize ever want to memorize then
local IPs are sometimes used, because they are easy to remember (after memorize the local network part) and fast to type... but ipv6 can also have those, the local part and the "host" part, both you can memorize and tune with time
hey, if its too much work... see topic 2... or use some post-it
you also have bounjour/avahi/zeroconf/etc to help you resolving local networks, all modern OS support it
yep, ipv6 its bigger and might be harder to memorize than ipv4, like its usually easier to memorize a phone number than ipv4... or to the extreme, memorize a ATM pin... when you increase the bits of information, you require more work to memorize it, but that is a price to pay for more bits of info
for the ::, i agree that multiple :: should have been allowed, but hey, DNS is there to hide all that
show me a system/big apps without bugs... the main problem is that in closed apps you dont even see the bugs and most people dont even report then, so they stay hidden for years (are you listen MS!!)
the fact that you can count bugs doesnt mean they are all the in the same level of importance, many of then might even be enhancement bugs
but hey, if you dont like FF, use other browsers, as long they respect the standards, its fine!
so you are comparing the firefox and IE memory usage... dont forget that IE is integrated in the windows, so not everything he uses is inside the IE process...
even in your example, you have only one IE open, but there is 2 of then in the process list (one with 16MB and another with 6MB)
shutdown the IE, check if there is no IE process and open it again... opens very fast right? sure, most of its components where not unloaded, yet you had no IE process, so where is the memory usage of those components?
i'm not saying that FF uses less RAM than IE, but comparing things like this is totally unfair and lying to yourself.
for what i see, i would say that FF uses too much ram every time a picture is loaded... not a leak, but some sort of uncompressed storage for some kinds of images (i suspect animated gif), but might be that the images of today are "huge" compared with the past image size... the other browsers usually also eat lot of ram when loading images (small or big, pictures or graphics)