It seems to me that your price of 25,000 dollars just goes to show how spoiled you make yourselves
I assuming by your comment that you either gave your remaining $15,000 to a charity or you couldn't make enough money and are jealous of those who could. I'm not advocating living beyond your means and having a lot of debt. Some people do work hard/smart enough to buy a nice car without going into debt to do it. Always seems like the whiners are people below that level. Would you be driving an '03 vette if you could have bought it outright? I probably owe as much right now for my '99 Jeep Cherokee as you do for your '99 Firebird. I've just been driving it for the last 3 years while you where either paying for another vehicle or walking.
You say that 100,000 miles is good.
10k for half of the life gone and no warranty.
20k-25k for full life and full warranty.
Seems like similar money for more hassle to me. I personally buy vehicles that are still on the lot after the next year's model comes out. You don't take the whole new car hit but you get full warranty and it really is still new.
My PowerMac 8600/300 is still running fine and has always run better than the equivalent PC of similar age. Still using it with OS9 and Linux.
a self built desktop can cost 2 grand less than a mac desktop. 200% overpriced is too much for me.
PowerMacs start at $1500 and classic imacs at $800. Even ibooks start at $1000. Yes they more expensive, but why do need to try to inflate the truth?
I have several PCs and Macs and an SGI O2. I'd pick up a nice Alpha and SPARC too if I find a deal I like. It doesn't have to be one or the other.
I've been following Parsec off and on (mostly off) since late '99. They've always seemed to steer as far from commercial as they could. Seems they always wanted a freely available game that wasn't commercial. Opensource would seem to fit their apparent intentions. Maybe they were concerned with losing control of their project or being forked. Hard to say what they were thinking but it's apparent that they didn't want commercial from the beginning.
That's probably why the poster said: The 70% of repeated requests are likely to include outright attacks as well as misconfigured DNS systems.
Without making people accountable for their misconfigured DNS servers, the real world will need workarounds. So far it has been easier to just answer stupid requests than to do anything else. Perhaps if the routers on the way to the root servers dropped the repeated attack-like traffic then maybe that would be enough for a while. Whatever gets done needs to be less of problem in the solution than the actual problem is.
Check out handhelds.org for good info on Linux on many handheld platforms.
There is a working distro or two for the 3900 . The 1900 and 5400 use the same cpu but the onboard peripherals are different. No one has started the port for these 2 but it could potentially go quickly because a lot of the groundwork is done.
You probably just need to update your current source instead of getting a new one. If the packages are changed or updated then you need the updated hdlist file(s) for your descriptions and dependency lists.
Here is how to add a new one:
It doesn't matter which wm you use for this since Mandrake uses a unified menu in all.
Expand the country you want to download from and select mirror
It will download the hdlist.cz file with the packages info.
Click Ok. Click Save and Exit
You can also remove the existing one while you are in here if need be. Choose Mandrake Update in the Packaging menu to update your updates source.
My preferred method is command line though. I'll find a mirror online that I want and copy the url to the clipboard. urpmi.addmedia --update medianame ftp://server/path/Mandrake/RPMS with../base/hdlist.cz
Most mirrors are setup like the CDs so you have to add 3 media sources if you want it complete. It is RPMS, RPMS2, RPMS3 with hdlist1.cz, hdlist2.cz and hdlist3.cz respectively. I usually do stealth1, stealth2 and stealth3 for the names of sources for the stealth.net ftp site. I like to setup a local mirror for the release files and ftp my updates from a good mirror. You can also use file://, http://, removable://, ftp:// for methods of retrieving your source. There is a --distrib swtch to automatically make all sources from a media.
urpmi.update sourcename will wget the updated hdlist file and take care of it for you. urpmi.removemedia sourcename will remove a source. Do either command without any switches to find the source name(s) you have setup.
While Slackware doesn't have the fuzzy GUI stuff at least the stuff that's there is working (as opposed to Mandrake!).
It works just fine if you know how to do it. Some people have made the same types of complaints about Slack when we both know that isn't correct. Mandrake's GUI and command line both work well now after some teething over the years. Most complaints came from the older releases which can be expected for a product before it matures. Mandrake's tendency to be on the bleeding edge in the past has burned them pretty good.
Similarly you can use Mandrake with URPMI or the GUI. This is a standard part of Mandrake. Just type urpmi packagename and it will install it and automatically take care of dependencies. It will tell what dependencies it is going to install and ask if you want to proceed. You can type partial package name and it will return everything with that in the name. urpmi kern would return kernel-source, kernel-headers, kernel-2.4.x-smp, etc. You also update packages from a Cooker or other source with updated packages. urpmi --update packagename. I know this all seems really similar to apt.
Apt definitely has been the superior product in years gone by but URPMI has finally matured and become a good alternative.
URPMI made huge steps forward post-Mandrake 8.0 PPC. There where some probelmatic issues on 8.0PPC with URPMI. I was using Cooker until 8.2PPC came out and spent a lot of time testing and running it. The improvements helped the x86 releases too since it is all perl based. Of course I use apt with Fink on Jaguar.:-)
1. NTP sync your clock 2. use cron to chmod +r *.iso at release time 3. profit
It really could be easy to do. Just set your time on the cron job to GMT or adjust for your offset. It could all be totally automated if you really want. It shouldn't matter if there are 2 or 2gillion mirrors.
They have been doing release candidates for a little while now. You did realize that a release candidate is testing for a forthcoming release?
It is a.0 release so there will be some.0x releases to fix some things that got missed. It will take a couple.x releases to shake things out and advance the maturing process. I will have a FreeBSD 5.0 box but my primary will still be 4.7-stable until 5.0 proves itself.
Some want QT, some want GTK and others will choose Motif. The reason we have seom many choices is because people don't all want the same thing. If someone wants everything the same then they are free to choose one and don't install any other.
I think if Trolltech had resolved the license issue once and for all at the beginning then we might have close to one toolkit. A lot of people went with Gnome early on because of commercial, ideological, etc. issues with QT. The result was Gnome evolved into a very nice desktop enviroment and gathered a solid following. KDE had all the buzz and initial momenteum but now they have to share the spotlight.
I used to bounce around between Gnome, KDE and Elightenment. What really got me to go Gnome at that time was Unreal Tournament. Everything just worked like it was supposed to (sound, performance, etc.). I had issues with the other wm/desktops I tried.
I really like Mandrake's approach of making all the menus integrated so I didn't have to worry about looking under a Gnome, KDE, etc. section to find an app I wanted. I could run Gnome and still find all my apps easily and they ran just as nice. KDE 2.x started wooing me and I have been on KDE mostly ever since with the ocassional Blackbox or Fluxbox. I still use several Gnome apps and use it once in a while. I tend to go KDE/Fluxbox equally on my BSD boxes (don't really know why it is different).
The EyeTV hardware captures at a fixed resolution of 352 by 240 pixels and compresses both video and audio to MPEG-1.
That's the problem with most tuner, capture, etc. for the new macs. My 8600 could just use composite inputs. Basically anything you want to put in it is cool. There's not a good solution for new macs that I've found yet.
They want to attack suspected mp3 trading even if it is legal. They want to disable networks that MIGHT have the ability to trade files whether they RIAA songs or not. Now they want to make it legal for them to do all this. People have been put in jail indefinitely for doing less than this. Let's get consistent here.
How is this any better than a vigilante going overboard?
They have a conflict of interests going on here and shouldn't be allowed to enforce anything. Sure they will play nice and not try to squash the competition with this extra power, right? There should be an impartial govermental agency (stop laughing) doing this or not at all but definitely not an orginization that has been convicted of price fixing and other anti-competitive practices controlling it. This would be like giving Microsoft control of regulating all software.
Gentoo looks good but still has a ways to go to catch up to FreeBSD. It will get better as more people work out their ports and the port system. There are more people all the time so maybe it won't be terribly long. I think they will suffer a bit like Mandrake if they stay too much on the bleeding edge of things with the main releases. Mandrake learned to back off a bit on releases and still keep bleeding edge going with Cooker. Gentoo will be good if they realize it and will avoid some of the black eyes Mandrake took before they did.
Perhaps then developers should be the ones running betas and beta testers that know what they are doing and know the potential consequenses of running a beta.
I think if a user doesn't know what they are doing and they still insist on running a beta then let the chips fall where they may. If they insist that they do know what they are doing then the chips will still fall where they may. You need to take responsiblity for youself if you want to run *experimental software*.
I do think Apple is being a little irresponsible on this particular issue though. Sure it says Public Beta a couple places but nothing else would suggest that this a development release of any kind. I think they were were hoping to skate by without any major incidents and they might get bit pretty hard on this one.
Beta software might not do its job properly, but that doesn't mean it should randomly delete user data.
If it's job is writing back to your user directory and it doesn't do that properly, then what do think might happen?
Beta software is not fully debugged and regression tested yet. Consequently unexpected results could happen when something needing debugged is executed.
Your comparison between a 5th maintenance release on a minor release OS really proves the point that caution must be used for anything labeled beta. If 1 minor release with 5 maintenance releases can hose your home directory then why would you think a beta should do better than that?
I have 6 pc's running daily with half running 24 hours a day. My whole bill is $60-$70/month for everything (fridge, lights, 32" TV, DVD, etc.). This includes an Athlon and a P4. No SMP at the moment though.:-(
What are you running there to generate that much of an electric bill?
You could have a point there. If this isn't a useful question then why are you reading it and posting with +1 bonus?
If questions on administering a server in an enterprise enviroment isn't useful then what is? I thought the really useful ones ended up on the front page.
While the answer should be clear, it doesn't seem to be.
Kerberos would complement what we are doing here quite well and will likely be the next part to the puzzle that is our network. It wouldn't necessarily replace everything else.
One problem is the database on a Tru64 box. It is maintained by the software vendor that doesn't support deviations from the normal way they do things. They are more concerned about things that aren't security related and security isn't even close to what it should be. The clients connect to it using telnet protocol (real secure there) using a proprietary client. Perhaps we can use stunnel or some other method of tunneling, etc. to externally secure the traffic but that might take more time and money than they are willing to provide.
The MIS dept tries to work around these issues with management of switches, routers, etc. and access lists and other methods to try to limit the issues. Yes the MAC addresses could be worked around but it is a step in the right direction. I appreciate the input, keep it coming.
Agreed. This is out of my hands as far as what we are going to do with the admin network. I'm really just a guest in this network although a respected one. The board makes technology decisions when they aren't qualified to understand the consequenses. We have all the other red tape, budget, politics, etc. too. Did I mentition that this is a college?
We have an automated inventory system that we can get a list of authorized MAC addresses parsed into the list. The web interface would be for add, change and deletes. The individual tech responsible for their campus would be entering that and would only be a handful on a regular basis. Large purchases would be a pain though.:-(
The other issues are going to be handled in hardware solutions or so I'm told. Yes, fixed IPs need to be watched out for. I'd love to run IPSec on critical systems but it's not my call.
You seemed to miss the point here. I said I was already in the process of hacking webmin. (RTFA?)
I was looking for other people's experience to draw from. I want to know if someone has done it before and the good, bad, otherwise they ran into as it scales up. One of the best things about the internet and open source is the wealth of resources and collaboration that is possible.
It's shame we have people locked in the basement whining about stuff instead of giving real input. Ask Slashdot could be a valuable resource. Sure there's a lot of dumb questions being asked e.g."I bought my first computer last week. How do I migrate a 6,000 computer datacenter without any downtime?". The "Ask Google", "code it yourself", "why can't you code?" and "Perl/PHP/GPL/BSD/Linux/OSX wars" comments really don't add anything productive to what could be a good sharing of ideas and experiences.
That's part of it and I have that figured out(read my reply up a few posts). I'm removing the rest of the options and buttons that I don't want now. Webmin's code is pretty nice for hacking. You gotta love open source.
I was really looking for other solutions that might be a better starting point. I also would like to hear from others that have already done it and what snags they might have run into.
I realize a good perl script could do this and would write one if that's what it takes. I was asking about solutions others have done.
It's nice to reuse existing code. You get something that has been tested more thoroughly and had the bugs shaken out(mostly at least). It's nice to see proven error trapping and what does and doesn't work. Why should you go through all the trouble of writing a new program and the downtimes when it needs more debugging when someone has already gone through this and is sharing their results?
Your comment could as easily said python, php, monkeys with typewriters, etc. but it really wouldn't have added too much to the discussion. What would you do with your perl script, how would you go about structuring it, what kind of error checking? These would be better comments to add.
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It seems to me that your price of 25,000 dollars just goes to show how spoiled you make yourselves
I assuming by your comment that you either gave your remaining $15,000 to a charity or you couldn't make enough money and are jealous of those who could. I'm not advocating living beyond your means and having a lot of debt. Some people do work hard/smart enough to buy a nice car without going into debt to do it. Always seems like the whiners are people below that level. Would you be driving an '03 vette if you could have bought it outright? I probably owe as much right now for my '99 Jeep Cherokee as you do for your '99 Firebird. I've just been driving it for the last 3 years while you where either paying for another vehicle or walking.
You say that 100,000 miles is good.
10k for half of the life gone and no warranty.
20k-25k for full life and full warranty.
Seems like similar money for more hassle to me. I personally buy vehicles that are still on the lot after the next year's model comes out. You don't take the whole new car hit but you get full warranty and it really is still new.
My PowerMac 8600/300 is still running fine and has always run better than the equivalent PC of similar age. Still using it with OS9 and Linux.
a self built desktop can cost 2 grand less than a mac desktop. 200% overpriced is too much for me.
PowerMacs start at $1500 and classic imacs at $800. Even ibooks start at $1000. Yes they more expensive, but why do need to try to inflate the truth?
I have several PCs and Macs and an SGI O2. I'd pick up a nice Alpha and SPARC too if I find a deal I like. It doesn't have to be one or the other.
I've been following Parsec off and on (mostly off) since late '99. They've always seemed to steer as far from commercial as they could. Seems they always wanted a freely available game that wasn't commercial. Opensource would seem to fit their apparent intentions. Maybe they were concerned with losing control of their project or being forked. Hard to say what they were thinking but it's apparent that they didn't want commercial from the beginning.
That's probably why the poster said:
The 70% of repeated requests are likely to include outright attacks as well as misconfigured DNS systems.
Without making people accountable for their misconfigured DNS servers, the real world will need workarounds. So far it has been easier to just answer stupid requests than to do anything else. Perhaps if the routers on the way to the root servers dropped the repeated attack-like traffic then maybe that would be enough for a while. Whatever gets done needs to be less of problem in the solution than the actual problem is.
Check out handhelds.org for good info on Linux on many handheld platforms.
There is a working distro or two for the 3900 . The 1900 and 5400 use the same cpu but the onboard peripherals are different. No one has started the port for these 2 but it could potentially go quickly because a lot of the groundwork is done.
You probably just need to update your current source instead of getting a new one. If the packages are changed or updated then you need the updated hdlist file(s) for your descriptions and dependency lists.
../base/hdlist.cz
Here is how to add a new one:
It doesn't matter which wm you use for this since Mandrake uses a unified menu in all.
Menu--> Configuration--> Packaging--> Software Sources Manager
Click add
select Security Updates
Press Select Mirror button or manually fill in.
Expand the country you want to download from and select mirror
It will download the hdlist.cz file with the packages info.
Click Ok. Click Save and Exit
You can also remove the existing one while you are in here if need be. Choose Mandrake Update in the Packaging menu to update your updates source.
My preferred method is command line though. I'll find a mirror online that I want and copy the url to the clipboard.
urpmi.addmedia --update medianame ftp://server/path/Mandrake/RPMS with
Most mirrors are setup like the CDs so you have to add 3 media sources if you want it complete. It is RPMS, RPMS2, RPMS3 with hdlist1.cz, hdlist2.cz and hdlist3.cz respectively. I usually do stealth1, stealth2 and stealth3 for the names of sources for the stealth.net ftp site. I like to setup a local mirror for the release files and ftp my updates from a good mirror. You can also use file://, http://, removable://, ftp:// for methods of retrieving your source. There is a --distrib swtch to automatically make all sources from a media.
urpmi.update sourcename will wget the updated hdlist file and take care of it for you. urpmi.removemedia sourcename will remove a source. Do either command without any switches to find the source name(s) you have setup.
While Slackware doesn't have the fuzzy GUI stuff at least the stuff that's there is working (as opposed to Mandrake!).
It works just fine if you know how to do it. Some people have made the same types of complaints about Slack when we both know that isn't correct. Mandrake's GUI and command line both work well now after some teething over the years. Most complaints came from the older releases which can be expected for a product before it matures. Mandrake's tendency to be on the bleeding edge in the past has burned them pretty good.
I hope this helps you figure out what you need.
Similarly you can use Mandrake with URPMI or the GUI. This is a standard part of Mandrake. Just type urpmi packagename and it will install it and automatically take care of dependencies. It will tell what dependencies it is going to install and ask if you want to proceed. You can type partial package name and it will return everything with that in the name. urpmi kern would return kernel-source, kernel-headers, kernel-2.4.x-smp, etc. You also update packages from a Cooker or other source with updated packages. urpmi --update packagename. I know this all seems really similar to apt.
:-)
Apt definitely has been the superior product in years gone by but URPMI has finally matured and become a good alternative.
URPMI made huge steps forward post-Mandrake 8.0 PPC. There where some probelmatic issues on 8.0PPC with URPMI. I was using Cooker until 8.2PPC came out and spent a lot of time testing and running it. The improvements helped the x86 releases too since it is all perl based. Of course I use apt with Fink on Jaguar.
1. NTP sync your clock
2. use cron to chmod +r *.iso at release time
3. profit
It really could be easy to do. Just set your time on the cron job to GMT or adjust for your offset. It could all be totally automated if you really want. It shouldn't matter if there are 2 or 2gillion mirrors.
They have been doing release candidates for a little while now. You did realize that a release candidate is testing for a forthcoming release?
.0 release so there will be some .0x releases to fix some things that got missed. It will take a couple .x releases to shake things out and advance the maturing process. I will have a FreeBSD 5.0 box but my primary will still be 4.7-stable until 5.0 proves itself.
It is a
Which one will you choose for them?
Some want QT, some want GTK and others will choose Motif. The reason we have seom many choices is because people don't all want the same thing. If someone wants everything the same then they are free to choose one and don't install any other.
I think if Trolltech had resolved the license issue once and for all at the beginning then we might have close to one toolkit. A lot of people went with Gnome early on because of commercial, ideological, etc. issues with QT. The result was Gnome evolved into a very nice desktop enviroment and gathered a solid following. KDE had all the buzz and initial momenteum but now they have to share the spotlight.
I used to bounce around between Gnome, KDE and Elightenment. What really got me to go Gnome at that time was Unreal Tournament. Everything just worked like it was supposed to (sound, performance, etc.). I had issues with the other wm/desktops I tried.
I really like Mandrake's approach of making all the menus integrated so I didn't have to worry about looking under a Gnome, KDE, etc. section to find an app I wanted. I could run Gnome and still find all my apps easily and they ran just as nice. KDE 2.x started wooing me and I have been on KDE mostly ever since with the ocassional Blackbox or Fluxbox. I still use several Gnome apps and use it once in a while. I tend to go KDE/Fluxbox equally on my BSD boxes (don't really know why it is different).
The EyeTV hardware captures at a fixed resolution of 352 by 240 pixels and compresses both video and audio to MPEG-1.
That's the problem with most tuner, capture, etc. for the new macs. My 8600 could just use composite inputs. Basically anything you want to put in it is cool. There's not a good solution for new macs that I've found yet.
They want to attack suspected mp3 trading even if it is legal. They want to disable networks that MIGHT have the ability to trade files whether they RIAA songs or not. Now they want to make it legal for them to do all this. People have been put in jail indefinitely for doing less than this. Let's get consistent here.
How is this any better than a vigilante going overboard?
They have a conflict of interests going on here and shouldn't be allowed to enforce anything. Sure they will play nice and not try to squash the competition with this extra power, right? There should be an impartial govermental agency (stop laughing) doing this or not at all but definitely not an orginization that has been convicted of price fixing and other anti-competitive practices controlling it. This would be like giving Microsoft control of regulating all software.
This is the premature announcement. Please wait for the following before trying to download.
"FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 NOT ready yet. Sorry."
"I'm downloading FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 now, wait, this is really RC2"
"FreeBSD 5.0 RC3 finally released"
Gentoo looks good but still has a ways to go to catch up to FreeBSD. It will get better as more people work out their ports and the port system. There are more people all the time so maybe it won't be terribly long. I think they will suffer a bit like Mandrake if they stay too much on the bleeding edge of things with the main releases. Mandrake learned to back off a bit on releases and still keep bleeding edge going with Cooker. Gentoo will be good if they realize it and will avoid some of the black eyes Mandrake took before they did.
Perhaps then developers should be the ones running betas and beta testers that know what they are doing and know the potential consequenses of running a beta.
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I think if a user doesn't know what they are doing and they still insist on running a beta then let the chips fall where they may. If they insist that they do know what they are doing then the chips will still fall where they may. You need to take responsiblity for youself if you want to run *experimental software*
I do think Apple is being a little irresponsible on this particular issue though. Sure it says Public Beta a couple places but nothing else would suggest that this a development release of any kind. I think they were were hoping to skate by without any major incidents and they might get bit pretty hard on this one.
Beta software
might not do its job properly, but that doesn't mean it
should randomly delete user data.
If it's job is writing back to your user directory and it doesn't do that properly, then what do think might happen?
Beta software is not fully debugged and regression tested yet. Consequently unexpected results could happen when something needing debugged is executed.
Your comparison between a 5th maintenance release on a minor release OS really proves the point that caution must be used for anything labeled beta. If 1 minor release with 5 maintenance releases can hose your home directory then why would you think a beta should do better than that?
It's only a matter of time. Of course IRIX can do it now.
I have 6 pc's running daily with half running 24 hours a day. My whole bill is $60-$70/month for everything (fridge, lights, 32" TV, DVD, etc.). This includes an Athlon and a P4. No SMP at the moment though. :-(
What are you running there to generate that much of an electric bill?
You could have a point there. If this isn't a useful question then why are you reading it and posting with +1 bonus?
If questions on administering a server in an enterprise enviroment isn't useful then what is?
I thought the really useful ones ended up on the front page.
Perhaps the following?
Jobs for Moonlighting Geeks?
Inexpensive Alternatives for ICANN Disputes?
Secure Digital vs. Multimedia Cards
Kick-Starting a Software Export Business?
What Protections Exist for Parody Sites?
Is CRT Burn-In Still a Problem?
While the answer should be clear, it doesn't seem to be.
Kerberos would complement what we are doing here quite well and will likely be the next part to the puzzle that is our network. It wouldn't necessarily replace everything else.
One problem is the database on a Tru64 box. It is maintained by the software vendor that doesn't support deviations from the normal way they do things. They are more concerned about things that aren't security related and security isn't even close to what it should be. The clients connect to it using telnet protocol (real secure there) using a proprietary client. Perhaps we can use stunnel or some other method of tunneling, etc. to externally secure the traffic but that might take more time and money than they are willing to provide.
The MIS dept tries to work around these issues with management of switches, routers, etc. and access lists and other methods to try to limit the issues. Yes the MAC addresses could be worked around but it is a step in the right direction. I appreciate the input, keep it coming.
Agreed. This is out of my hands as far as what we are going to do with the admin network. I'm really just a guest in this network although a respected one. The board makes technology decisions when they aren't qualified to understand the consequenses. We have all the other red tape, budget, politics, etc. too. Did I mentition that this is a college?
We have an automated inventory system that we can get a list of authorized MAC addresses parsed into the list. The web interface would be for add, change and deletes. The individual tech responsible for their campus would be entering that and would only be a handful on a regular basis. Large purchases would be a pain though.:-(
The other issues are going to be handled in hardware solutions or so I'm told. Yes, fixed IPs need to be watched out for. I'd love to run IPSec on critical systems but it's not my call.
Thanks for the heads up. I'm completely aware that MAC spoofing is easy.
:-P
This is just one piece to the puzzle. The problem is most of the puzzle pieces are in other people's hands.
You seemed to miss the point here. I said I was already in the process of hacking webmin. (RTFA?)
I was looking for other people's experience to draw from. I want to know if someone has done it before and the good, bad, otherwise they ran into as it scales up. One of the best things about the internet and open source is the wealth of resources and collaboration that is possible.
It's shame we have people locked in the basement whining about stuff instead of giving real input. Ask Slashdot could be a valuable resource. Sure there's a lot of dumb questions being asked e.g."I bought my first computer last week. How do I migrate a 6,000 computer datacenter without any downtime?". The "Ask Google", "code it yourself", "why can't you code?" and "Perl/PHP/GPL/BSD/Linux/OSX wars" comments really don't add anything productive to what could be a good sharing of ideas and experiences.
Perhaps you were just trolling?
That's part of it and I have that figured out(read my reply up a few posts). I'm removing the rest of the options and buttons that I don't want now. Webmin's code is pretty nice for hacking. You gotta love open source.
I was really looking for other solutions that might be a better starting point. I also would like to hear from others that have already done it and what snags they might have run into.
You mean like this?
I realize a good perl script could do this and would write one if that's what it takes. I was asking about solutions others have done.
It's nice to reuse existing code. You get something that has been tested more thoroughly and had the bugs shaken out(mostly at least). It's nice to see proven error trapping and what does and doesn't work. Why should you go through all the trouble of writing a new program and the downtimes when it needs more debugging when someone has already gone through this and is sharing their results?
Your comment could as easily said python, php, monkeys with typewriters, etc. but it really wouldn't have added too much to the discussion. What would you do with your perl script, how would you go about structuring it, what kind of error checking? These would be better comments to add.
It looks good but can you lock down what the users so they can do to very specific things?
How not cheap is it? few hundred, couple thousand or more?
The website doesn't seem to give too much info.