This raises the question:
It is illegal under the DMCA to crack encryption no matter how trivial, but it is legal to make coppies of music for personal use. Does this mean that I would be within my rights if I were to develop a mechanism to copy and store streamed music from subscription music services such as are being developed now? - this assuming I could play the music that I hace coppied off of the streaming service...
This is why the DMCA is bad, under the "Fair Use" laws you have the right to make copies of music you have purchased for personal use. However, under the DMCA, if the music is encrypted, any attempt to break the code is illegal, even if it is for "Fair Use" purposes. Further any tool you use to break the code is also illegal even if it also has non-infringing uses, which might otherwise be protected under "Fair Use". This is the reason why it is thought the DMCA is not about copy protection, but control, greed, corruption and power.
This just seems like a trick to get us using Windows software on our scared open source platforms.
I think you have hit on it. When one of us buys a machine with Windows pre-installed and install Linux, sure Microsoft has sold a license (good for MS), it will never have to support (also good for MS). However the down side, for MS is no future revenue, because we will not be in the MS upgrade cycle. If MS can get the Linux community to start using.NET, then we can be put on the upgrade cycle, which means continued revenue for MS. How many of us would start using the.NET version of Office XP or Internet Explorer, my guess is a great many.
Not to mention that Bakula is entrenched in the minds of most Sci-Fi fans from his role in Quantum Leap.
This is called TypeCasting, the bain of all actors and very few deserve it. Please give him a chance, he may suprise you. I am glad they broke with tradition and picked up a well known successful actor, if nothing else, he brings experience of a long running TV show with him.
I have no problem paying for the education of any kids I might have. I don't expect you to pay for my kids' education and I don't think I should have to pay for your kids' education.
So what you are saying is only those children whose parents can afford to send them to school have the right to an education. I have news for you friend, that IS Elitist. A policy such as this would set back the U.S. 100 years in a single generation, simply because half the population would never learn to read. Would you seriously want to live in a nation of burger flippers ? Our education system may not be fantastic, but it at least provides the opprotunity to learn, which would not be there under your system and a great many intellegent children would never reach thier potential or even have the chance to reach thier potential, and that is just wrong.
Don't copy.NET, _skip_.NET. Do the next great thing!
Now this is the best statment I've heard on/. for ages. We should not be thinking about what Linux needs to catch up with Microsoft, we need to think of what can we develope that will force Microsoft to play catch up with Linux.
Think about it, if we took the campaign contributions out of politics, we would become an aristrocracy, with only those people who have enough personal wealth to run for office would govern us.
I doubt anyone wants to eliminate campaign contributions completely, what needs to be eliminated is influence peddling, huge campaign contibutions given with a wink and a nod. Think about this, I give a couple hundred dollars a year to campaigns, mostly local and state, this usually gets me a nice form letter reply. When Michael Dell or Bill Gates gives hundreds of thousands to campaigns, you can bet they do it in person and make it very clear what needs to happen in order get another huge contribution. As for an aristrocracy, isn't that what we have now ? Both the Senate and Congress are full of very wealthy encumbents who are backed by other wealthy people such as Michael Dell and Bill Gates, and belong to a Royal Family (the Republicans and Democrates) this pretty much constitutes an aristrocracy in my book.
DVD (see this artitcle although I still don't understand why people are so bent on seeing a dvd on their massive 21 inch monitor rather than their 36 inch tv).
Its not my 21 inch monitor, at home, I want to watch DvD's on, it is my Dell Inspirion 3800 Portable running RedHat 7.1, on airplanes and motel rooms, that I want to play DvD's on. Also some of us use computers as all-in-one entertainment centers and have them hooked up to our 36 inch TV's.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
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As you cling to the arbitrary notion of privacy, you're doing little more than empowering men to rape and torture women.
Since you beleive this, you need to put up or shutup, put up webcams in your bathrooms and bedrooms, better yet every room in your house and stream it to a website, I will be waiting for you to post the URL here on Slashdot.
Mabye I can build my own Tivo. Does anybody know how to setup a linux box to function like a tivo? (Matrox card?)
It is very easy to put the hardware together. A Celeron/Duron in the 600Mhz area, motherboard (with integrated sound/video), 128 MB RAM, a DvD drive, 20 GB Hard Drive, wireless keyboard/mouse, speakers and a TV tuner card with s-video out. If you shop hard you can assemble this for $500-$600. Both Windows and Linux has software which allows you to record off of the TV Card, but if you want to be able to watch TV and record something else, you will need to purchase two TV cards. At that point all you need is someone to write a program which will download the TV listings from TVGuide.com, search the listing for the shows you want and setup a scheduler program to record the show.
Of course it might be worth it to wait and see if any other companies decide to start making TiVO like devices to sell as hardware only, no service at all, but will cost more like $500 rather than TiVO's $300, in order to make money on the hardware. I am a happy TiVO subscriber, but I'd still buy one of these hardware only boxes if someone would put one out.
Which is the more immoral? The businessman who pays the bribe, or the politician who makes the bribe necessary?
Thats easy, both are equally guilty, just of different crimes, one making the bribe and the other recieving it, Which makes them both equal in thier moral corruption.
The notion that the GPL model will do anything is laughable, considering how many companies are making money on GPL software (a handful at most),
I am not sure why people keep saying nobody can make money on GPL software. I know several consultants who make plenty of money on GPL software. You'd be suprised how open a business is to GPL software when they are told, they can have it based on Microsoft software for $30K or based on GPL software for $10K. These guys aren't Bill Gates rich, but they are doing well and even the economic slow down hasn't had much of an effect on the their cash flow.
You have to keep in mind that OSS's primary distribution method is over the net. Bandwidth costs money, so OSS does, essentially, die if there is no money to be made.
This is completely wrong, bandwidth is not the only way to get Linux. I can order a copy of any distribution from CheapBytes for $3 plus shipping. Even if all the commercial Linux Distributers go under, there would still be Debian, eventually it would integrate all the best features of the other Distributions and the only people who are out anything are those who bought VA at $300 a share.
Windows is very easy to install, and I've done it a few hundred times. Turn on machine, place cd in drive, boot from cd, enter a few numbers. Not to difficult.
You left out, install chipset driver, reboot, install video driver, reboot, install sound driver, reboot, install modem driver, reboot, configure Dialup, reboot, install Network card driver, reboot, configure network settings, reboot, install DvD software, reboot, install TV Tuner software, reboot, run the Windows update, reboot. Now begin installing applications.
That however does not mean I should have to give up my ability to prevent corporations from gathering information on me, just because Sun Microsystems wants to make a few extra bucks selling my information to other corporations. If I wish to prevent insurance company from gaining access to my medical records, I should have that right. If I don't want my "Born Again Christian" boss to know that at home I access porn sites, I should be legally protected and he should not have access to that information. Constitutionaly protected or not, it is THE RIGHT THING.
Better delete your copies of bash, Perl, and Python then.
Again, it is all about security model, which Unix has and Windows 95/98/ME do not. A rogue perl script would not be able to delete system files, alter global configuration files or screw with other users files. Where as in Win 95/98/ME a VB script can do all of these things.
You may have noticed that VBScript viruses you pointed to only runs code at the users security level. Well, you would of if you had half a clue.
Which of course means under Win95/98/ME the virus can do anything it wants to include deleteing system files, altering the registry and screwing with other users files.
Does linux's bash scripts, frex, are an extreme and unneccessary security risk?
The answer is no, bash scripts are not a security risk. It is all about security model, the Unix security model does not lend itself to this type of exploit, while the non existant security model of Win95/98/ME and the barely exceptable security model of WinNT/2K does lend itself to this type of problem.
I do agree the problem is with users, they should not be opening attachments from unknown sources, but the fact of the matter is, they do and Microsoft should know this and take steps to prevent these scripts from doing stupid things.
You may have noticed that VIM exploit you pointed to only runs code at the users security level, not as root. You should also note, there is a fix for it. While with Windows, this has been a well known problem for a couple of years now, MS has even tried to fix it a couple of times, but still, up until even a couple of weeks ago, I am still recieving VB virus's in my email.
In my opinion there are three reasons why virus's are a bigger problem in Windows then any other platform.
1. More Windows boxes then any other.
2. Windows virus's are easier to write.
3. All the programers who could write Linux virus's are too busy writing Windows virus's
Agree. Windows 2000 makes unix look like child play. Once you can script the OS (vbs) you can automate anything in the console of GUI - it is very powerful if you know how to use.
You also just pointed out Win2K's greatest weakness as well. The problem with you being able to script the OS is so can anyone else simply by embeding a VB Macro Virus into an email or a Word document. I point to the Melissa and "I Love You" VB Macro Virus's which were nearly unstoppable last year, as examples of what is to come. I do not consider the ability to "Script the OS" to be an advantage, I consider it an extreme and uneccessary security risk.
Ever hear of someone choosing to switch to windows ?
I did once for a couple of weeks. I got tired of having to fight with Linux to do the simplest things and I wanted USB, DvD and all sorts of things I thought Linux couldn't deliver. I had forgotten why I switched to Linux in the first place. I am not going to go into detail about how horrible Windows was (anyone who says its easy to install Windows, has never done it), but I can tell you I am back to Linux, I have USB, DvD and all that other stuff, I have vowed never to return to Windows.
If I were an Ad Exective, I'd be looking for a way to advertise to people who use the fast forward button. The obvious way is to have static signs in the background which are easily read even at FFwd speeds. A clever producer however could come up with a long slow gesture done by the actor, which may or may not be meaningful at normal speed, but when viewed at FFwd speeds takes on a completely different meaning, or the meaning becomes obvious.
StarOffice is no substitute for MS Office, unfortunately.
I have everyone send me there documents in HTML, even MS Office reads that. If I recieve an MS Office file and StarOffice won't read it, I send it back and request the document in HTML format.
I consider it interesting that the Porno industry has been one of the few industries that seem to be pretty good at Self-Regulation. Most sites already require some sort of age verification and you almost never see a porno site advertised on sites targeted at teenagers. Too bad other industries aren't as good at it, like both the Tobacco and Alcohol. Both had to be forced into not targeting teenagers with thier products. Had the government not stepped in our children would still be subjected to beer and ciggarette commercials during saturday morning cartoons.
If YOU think that computers shouldn't crash then you're living in a dream world.
I freely admit I live in the dream world where I beleive computers SHOULDN'T crash, now if I could just get the dream world were computers DON'T crash. Unfortunatly we have low expectations of computers and both the hardware and software manufacturers have been very good at living down to those expectations and even encouraging them.
(Sure you can do that too, but who wants to have a monster like that in your living room sounding like a jet engine?)
I have been replaced my entertainment center with a celeron 700 a while ago, if you take steps to ensure it is quiet, such as buying decent fans and placing the system to minimize noise, it isn't a problem.
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This raises the question: It is illegal under the DMCA to crack encryption no matter how trivial, but it is legal to make coppies of music for personal use. Does this mean that I would be within my rights if I were to develop a mechanism to copy and store streamed music from subscription music services such as are being developed now? - this assuming I could play the music that I hace coppied off of the streaming service...
This is why the DMCA is bad, under the "Fair Use" laws you have the right to make copies of music you have purchased for personal use. However, under the DMCA, if the music is encrypted, any attempt to break the code is illegal, even if it is for "Fair Use" purposes. Further any tool you use to break the code is also illegal even if it also has non-infringing uses, which might otherwise be protected under "Fair Use". This is the reason why it is thought the DMCA is not about copy protection, but control, greed, corruption and power.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
This just seems like a trick to get us using Windows software on our scared open source platforms.
I think you have hit on it. When one of us buys a machine with Windows pre-installed and install Linux, sure Microsoft has sold a license (good for MS), it will never have to support (also good for MS). However the down side, for MS is no future revenue, because we will not be in the MS upgrade cycle. If MS can get the Linux community to start using .NET, then we can be put on the upgrade cycle, which means continued revenue for MS. How many of us would start using the .NET version of Office XP or Internet Explorer, my guess is a great many.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
Not to mention that Bakula is entrenched in the minds of most Sci-Fi fans from his role in Quantum Leap.
This is called TypeCasting, the bain of all actors and very few deserve it. Please give him a chance, he may suprise you. I am glad they broke with tradition and picked up a well known successful actor, if nothing else, he brings experience of a long running TV show with him.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
I have no problem paying for the education of any kids I might have. I don't expect you to pay for my kids' education and I don't think I should have to pay for your kids' education.
So what you are saying is only those children whose parents can afford to send them to school have the right to an education. I have news for you friend, that IS Elitist. A policy such as this would set back the U.S. 100 years in a single generation, simply because half the population would never learn to read. Would you seriously want to live in a nation of burger flippers ? Our education system may not be fantastic, but it at least provides the opprotunity to learn, which would not be there under your system and a great many intellegent children would never reach thier potential or even have the chance to reach thier potential, and that is just wrong.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
Don't copy .NET, _skip_ .NET. Do the next great thing!
Now this is the best statment I've heard on /. for ages. We should not be thinking about what Linux needs to catch up with Microsoft, we need to think of what can we develope that will force Microsoft to play catch up with Linux.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
Think about it, if we took the campaign contributions out of politics, we would become an aristrocracy, with only those people who have enough personal wealth to run for office would govern us.
I doubt anyone wants to eliminate campaign contributions completely, what needs to be eliminated is influence peddling, huge campaign contibutions given with a wink and a nod. Think about this, I give a couple hundred dollars a year to campaigns, mostly local and state, this usually gets me a nice form letter reply. When Michael Dell or Bill Gates gives hundreds of thousands to campaigns, you can bet they do it in person and make it very clear what needs to happen in order get another huge contribution. As for an aristrocracy, isn't that what we have now ? Both the Senate and Congress are full of very wealthy encumbents who are backed by other wealthy people such as Michael Dell and Bill Gates, and belong to a Royal Family (the Republicans and Democrates) this pretty much constitutes an aristrocracy in my book.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
DVD (see this artitcle although I still don't understand why people are so bent on seeing a dvd on their massive 21 inch monitor rather than their 36 inch tv).
Its not my 21 inch monitor, at home, I want to watch DvD's on, it is my Dell Inspirion 3800 Portable running RedHat 7.1, on airplanes and motel rooms, that I want to play DvD's on. Also some of us use computers as all-in-one entertainment centers and have them hooked up to our 36 inch TV's.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
As you cling to the arbitrary notion of privacy, you're doing little more than empowering men to rape and torture women.
Since you beleive this, you need to put up or shutup, put up webcams in your bathrooms and bedrooms, better yet every room in your house and stream it to a website, I will be waiting for you to post the URL here on Slashdot.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
Mabye I can build my own Tivo. Does anybody know how to setup a linux box to function like a tivo? (Matrox card?)
It is very easy to put the hardware together. A Celeron/Duron in the 600Mhz area, motherboard (with integrated sound/video), 128 MB RAM, a DvD drive, 20 GB Hard Drive, wireless keyboard/mouse, speakers and a TV tuner card with s-video out. If you shop hard you can assemble this for $500-$600. Both Windows and Linux has software which allows you to record off of the TV Card, but if you want to be able to watch TV and record something else, you will need to purchase two TV cards. At that point all you need is someone to write a program which will download the TV listings from TVGuide.com, search the listing for the shows you want and setup a scheduler program to record the show.
Of course it might be worth it to wait and see if any other companies decide to start making TiVO like devices to sell as hardware only, no service at all, but will cost more like $500 rather than TiVO's $300, in order to make money on the hardware. I am a happy TiVO subscriber, but I'd still buy one of these hardware only boxes if someone would put one out.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
Which is the more immoral? The businessman who pays the bribe, or the politician who makes the bribe necessary?
Thats easy, both are equally guilty, just of different crimes, one making the bribe and the other recieving it, Which makes them both equal in thier moral corruption.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
The notion that the GPL model will do anything is laughable, considering how many companies are making money on GPL software (a handful at most),
I am not sure why people keep saying nobody can make money on GPL software. I know several consultants who make plenty of money on GPL software. You'd be suprised how open a business is to GPL software when they are told, they can have it based on Microsoft software for $30K or based on GPL software for $10K. These guys aren't Bill Gates rich, but they are doing well and even the economic slow down hasn't had much of an effect on the their cash flow.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
You have to keep in mind that OSS's primary distribution method is over the net. Bandwidth costs money, so OSS does, essentially, die if there is no money to be made.
This is completely wrong, bandwidth is not the only way to get Linux. I can order a copy of any distribution from CheapBytes for $3 plus shipping. Even if all the commercial Linux Distributers go under, there would still be Debian, eventually it would integrate all the best features of the other Distributions and the only people who are out anything are those who bought VA at $300 a share.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
Windows is very easy to install, and I've done it a few hundred times. Turn on machine, place cd in drive, boot from cd, enter a few numbers. Not to difficult.
You left out, install chipset driver, reboot, install video driver, reboot, install sound driver, reboot, install modem driver, reboot, configure Dialup, reboot, install Network card driver, reboot, configure network settings, reboot, install DvD software, reboot, install TV Tuner software, reboot, run the Windows update, reboot. Now begin installing applications.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
That however does not mean I should have to give up my ability to prevent corporations from gathering information on me, just because Sun Microsystems wants to make a few extra bucks selling my information to other corporations. If I wish to prevent insurance company from gaining access to my medical records, I should have that right. If I don't want my "Born Again Christian" boss to know that at home I access porn sites, I should be legally protected and he should not have access to that information. Constitutionaly protected or not, it is THE RIGHT THING.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
Better question;
Why Can't I have more privacy online than in the real world ?
Why should you be able to harass people or doing various types of crimes with the possibility of being anonymous?
Who do you trust more to do the right thing, the Government and Big Business or Individual People ?
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
Better delete your copies of bash, Perl, and Python then.
Again, it is all about security model, which Unix has and Windows 95/98/ME do not. A rogue perl script would not be able to delete system files, alter global configuration files or screw with other users files. Where as in Win 95/98/ME a VB script can do all of these things.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
You may have noticed that VBScript viruses you pointed to only runs code at the users security level. Well, you would of if you had half a clue.
Which of course means under Win95/98/ME the virus can do anything it wants to include deleteing system files, altering the registry and screwing with other users files.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
Does linux's bash scripts, frex, are an extreme and unneccessary security risk?
The answer is no, bash scripts are not a security risk. It is all about security model, the Unix security model does not lend itself to this type of exploit, while the non existant security model of Win95/98/ME and the barely exceptable security model of WinNT/2K does lend itself to this type of problem.
I do agree the problem is with users, they should not be opening attachments from unknown sources, but the fact of the matter is, they do and Microsoft should know this and take steps to prevent these scripts from doing stupid things.
You may have noticed that VIM exploit you pointed to only runs code at the users security level, not as root. You should also note, there is a fix for it. While with Windows, this has been a well known problem for a couple of years now, MS has even tried to fix it a couple of times, but still, up until even a couple of weeks ago, I am still recieving VB virus's in my email.
In my opinion there are three reasons why virus's are a bigger problem in Windows then any other platform.
1. More Windows boxes then any other.
2. Windows virus's are easier to write.
3. All the programers who could write Linux virus's are too busy writing Windows virus's
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
Agree. Windows 2000 makes unix look like child play. Once you can script the OS (vbs) you can automate anything in the console of GUI - it is very powerful if you know how to use.
You also just pointed out Win2K's greatest weakness as well. The problem with you being able to script the OS is so can anyone else simply by embeding a VB Macro Virus into an email or a Word document. I point to the Melissa and "I Love You" VB Macro Virus's which were nearly unstoppable last year, as examples of what is to come. I do not consider the ability to "Script the OS" to be an advantage, I consider it an extreme and uneccessary security risk.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
Ever hear of someone choosing to switch to windows ?
I did once for a couple of weeks. I got tired of having to fight with Linux to do the simplest things and I wanted USB, DvD and all sorts of things I thought Linux couldn't deliver. I had forgotten why I switched to Linux in the first place. I am not going to go into detail about how horrible Windows was (anyone who says its easy to install Windows, has never done it), but I can tell you I am back to Linux, I have USB, DvD and all that other stuff, I have vowed never to return to Windows.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
If I were an Ad Exective, I'd be looking for a way to advertise to people who use the fast forward button. The obvious way is to have static signs in the background which are easily read even at FFwd speeds. A clever producer however could come up with a long slow gesture done by the actor, which may or may not be meaningful at normal speed, but when viewed at FFwd speeds takes on a completely different meaning, or the meaning becomes obvious.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
StarOffice is no substitute for MS Office, unfortunately.
I have everyone send me there documents in HTML, even MS Office reads that. If I recieve an MS Office file and StarOffice won't read it, I send it back and request the document in HTML format.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
, or unfairly regulating it,
I consider it interesting that the Porno industry has been one of the few industries that seem to be pretty good at Self-Regulation. Most sites already require some sort of age verification and you almost never see a porno site advertised on sites targeted at teenagers. Too bad other industries aren't as good at it, like both the Tobacco and Alcohol. Both had to be forced into not targeting teenagers with thier products. Had the government not stepped in our children would still be subjected to beer and ciggarette commercials during saturday morning cartoons.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
If YOU think that computers shouldn't crash then you're living in a dream world.
I freely admit I live in the dream world where I beleive computers SHOULDN'T crash, now if I could just get the dream world were computers DON'T crash. Unfortunatly we have low expectations of computers and both the hardware and software manufacturers have been very good at living down to those expectations and even encouraging them.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.
(Sure you can do that too, but who wants to have a monster like that in your living room sounding like a jet engine?)
I have been replaced my entertainment center with a celeron 700 a while ago, if you take steps to ensure it is quiet, such as buying decent fans and placing the system to minimize noise, it isn't a problem.
Jesus died for sombodies sins, but not mine.