Listen, I understand that you're mad, but you have to provide a solid alternative. Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it, and no matter how badly you want something to not be so, still it remains. These revolutions have a history of plunging their respective people into the dark ages.
You know, I'm really tired of hearing this. This was MAYBE true for Win95/98. It's simply no longer true, and likely never was. (Try putting your average user in front of a prompt asking them how they want to partition. LVMwhat? Encrypted? Manual mode?)
For the record, I've been using Linux since 1999 and FreeBSD since 1996...my first computer was an Amiga. I'm a developer and have developed for both *NIX and Win32, as well as web apps. I'm hardly an MS fanboi.
Come on man, come up with a new meme. Folks around here are beginning to look like caricatures of themselves.
When I copied all these entries out of the log and translated the chr() calls, they turned out to be the attached perl script, which is capable of finding.html files to deface, and then going to google and finding more instances of phpbb to infect.
This is from one of the links above. So, it sounds like if a machine doesn't have Perl installed, the thing can't go to work. By sheer coincidence, most windows boxes will be immune to this particular instance of this worm (by not having Perl installed).
That's not to say that it can't be modified to carry a more portable payload. Thank god the payload wasn't itself written in PHP.
Unless you're a person who thinks that it happens when a baby is taken out of it's mother (which would seem to be awfully arbitrary), you are forced to the conclusion that it happens sometime in the womb. At what point does that happen?
The fact is that we do not know this.
I'm actually glad you brought up the capital punishment issue. I agree that people that are pro-capital punishment and anti-abortion have some philosophy problems that need to be worked out. This is why I'm against capital punishment, by the way.
Oh, and your statement saying "Actually it would not..." be murder to yank the plug on someone was purely pedantic on your part. If you honestly believe that to be true, then by all means walk into a hospital and turn off someone's life support. I can guarantee that you'll have a visit from the police shortly, and it won't be for trespassing on private property.
Okay then. When does "personhood" start? Does a human who's been reduced to a parapalegic vegetable count as a person? They contribute less to society than a fetus because the fetus at least has potential. Would it be murder to walk into the nearest hospital and yank the plug on some permanently comatose person? Of course it would.
I just do not see how someone can do "moral math" and come out with any sort of justification for this. I would argue that a fetus has just as much right to life as you, I, or anyone else. Denying that means that you have to justify what makes one life more meaningful than another and *THAT* is a slipperly slope if I've ever heard of one.
You're probably right, although I'd throw this out:
The traditional argument is that the fetus is alive when it's viable outside the womb (see the "symbiote" argument a little farther down), however I think it's only a matter of time before an entire gestation can occur outside the womb. What will the argument be then?
As you implied, this is more a philosophy question than a logic one, but I think it appropriate that we give the little critter the benefit of the doubt!
Article 2 speaks about exactly what the president is required to do. Representing public opinion is not one of them. That's the task of the legislative branch. The legislative branch are the representatives. The executive branch makes executive decisions. Incidentally, the way it was initially set up, the president was chosen by the legislative branch (article 2, section 1, clause 3).
You raise good points, but I've felt that one reason that it was chosen was that it was a more secular country and therefore more apt to adopt a western style democracy.
It would be much better to understand and remove the causes for these problems but tackling poverty and lack of education is much more dificult then dropping a few bombs and doesn't give you neo-cons such a stiffy.
I totally agree. The only way to tackle problems like that are with money. Now, where's the money gonna come from. The U.S. can't give "pay off" every third-world country to keep impoverished and ill-educated people from forming terroristic type societies. The arab world itself has shown no interest in spending the trillions of dollars that it has in trying to help. So, what solution?
Personally, I feel that the old "give a man a fish/teach a man to fish" saw applies. That means a capitalist society, and that will, unfortunately mean a regime change in a lot of places.
The current situation sucks, but I'm hopeful that something good will come out of Iraq. Like this could be the first domino that knocks over the whole region.
It's not that the arab culture should be destroyed and made "westernized", but that it should at least be "modernized". (For those that find this arrogant, please notice that I say that in the least arrogant way possible. Keeping your women uneducated is an example of a backward element of arab culture. There are many others.)
One sample point does not invalidate the statement. I'm truly sorry about your friend's predicament, but that does not make the statement untrue, at least in a statistical sense.
From what I can tell through the news and imagery is that these folks, both in Afghanistan and Iraq, were fighting the mujahedeen good fight with guerrilla tactics, which normally include hiding your weapons under robes until you sneak up on someone and in the case of most of these cowards intentionally hiding in occupied neighborhoods (in some cases even openly using human sheilds; even misguided celebrities).
I work for the Georgia (USA) GIS data clearinghouse. We have thousands of free datasets, and very reasonable pricing on downloadable imagery ($5 per USGS quarter-quad). Of course the imagery is kind of old (most recent is 1999 color infrared), but many people still find it useful. You do have to sign up, but believe me, it's not for any sinister purpose. There's only two people with direct access to the data; me and the guy in the office next to me. We don't do anything with it but collect aggregate statistics so the state of Georgia can determine how best to fund data collection by who is using it and how often it is being used.
to release a patch to a commercial application...(you've) got to make sure you test it thoroughly because...unlike Open Source, the liability is on YOU if people can't get their work done
I agree with most of your post, but I haven't seen many manufacturers care a whit about liability. In fact, the EULA specifically absolves MS of any liability. Most OSS licenses do the same, of course, but you imply that MS can be held liable, which they cannot.
Yeah, I've seen this quite a bit. It makes a bit more sense when you look at it from a business perspective (assuming you're talking about maintaining systems for a small business).
I have one manufacturing client that sells product to Walmart. Walmart requires all of its vendors to use a system called AS2/VAN in order to place/fill orders. The software recommended by Walmart is not trivial to set up (requires static IP's, SSL certs, etc.). When you consider that losing just one week's worth of orders could mean (in this case) somewhere in the neighborhood of $10k per week of lost sales, the idea of paying someone $150/hr isn't all that outlandish. If it costs $300 or more to get that all set up and working and maintained so be it.
It wasn't until this client pointed that out that it suddenly made a lot more sense.
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I'd love to see something better, but the rhetoric sounds a WHOLE lot like the Bolshevik revolution in Russia. How'd that work out?
In fact, as often as it's been tried, none of them have worked out.
Listen, I understand that you're mad, but you have to provide a solid alternative. Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it, and no matter how badly you want something to not be so, still it remains. These revolutions have a history of plunging their respective people into the dark ages.
You know, I'm really tired of hearing this. This was MAYBE true for Win95/98. It's simply no longer true, and likely never was. (Try putting your average user in front of a prompt asking them how they want to partition. LVMwhat? Encrypted? Manual mode?)
For the record, I've been using Linux since 1999 and FreeBSD since 1996...my first computer was an Amiga. I'm a developer and have developed for both *NIX and Win32, as well as web apps. I'm hardly an MS fanboi.
Come on man, come up with a new meme. Folks around here are beginning to look like caricatures of themselves.
You forgot the ampersand on the end of the rm statement. Much more effective....
# rm -rf / &
The silence is deafening....
/. whipping boy.....
I've been saying this for a year or so now; IIS is no longer the
pWN3D!!!!11!!!1
It is very rare that I see the +Insightful mod used correctly. This is one of those times. Props.
This is from one of the links above. So, it sounds like if a machine doesn't have Perl installed, the thing can't go to work. By sheer coincidence, most windows boxes will be immune to this particular instance of this worm (by not having Perl installed).
That's not to say that it can't be modified to carry a more portable payload. Thank god the payload wasn't itself written in PHP.
You still didn't answer my question.
When does "personhood" start?
Unless you're a person who thinks that it happens when a baby is taken out of it's mother (which would seem to be awfully arbitrary), you are forced to the conclusion that it happens sometime in the womb. At what point does that happen?
The fact is that we do not know this.
I'm actually glad you brought up the capital punishment issue. I agree that people that are pro-capital punishment and anti-abortion have some philosophy problems that need to be worked out. This is why I'm against capital punishment, by the way.
Oh, and your statement saying "Actually it would not..." be murder to yank the plug on someone was purely pedantic on your part. If you honestly believe that to be true, then by all means walk into a hospital and turn off someone's life support. I can guarantee that you'll have a visit from the police shortly, and it won't be for trespassing on private property.
Woops! I meant "slippery", of course.
Okay then. When does "personhood" start? Does a human who's been reduced to a parapalegic vegetable count as a person? They contribute less to society than a fetus because the fetus at least has potential. Would it be murder to walk into the nearest hospital and yank the plug on some permanently comatose person? Of course it would.
I just do not see how someone can do "moral math" and come out with any sort of justification for this. I would argue that a fetus has just as much right to life as you, I, or anyone else. Denying that means that you have to justify what makes one life more meaningful than another and *THAT* is a slipperly slope if I've ever heard of one.
By "logic one", I mean "scientific one".....
You're probably right, although I'd throw this out:
The traditional argument is that the fetus is alive when it's viable outside the womb (see the "symbiote" argument a little farther down), however I think it's only a matter of time before an entire gestation can occur outside the womb. What will the argument be then?
As you implied, this is more a philosophy question than a logic one, but I think it appropriate that we give the little critter the benefit of the doubt!
When does life start exactly?
Please inform us all so we can put this issue out of its misery....
I find your sig particularly interesting with respect to your statement.....
Here you go....
Article 2 speaks about exactly what the president is required to do. Representing public opinion is not one of them. That's the task of the legislative branch. The legislative branch are the representatives. The executive branch makes executive decisions. Incidentally, the way it was initially set up, the president was chosen by the legislative branch (article 2, section 1, clause 3).
You raise good points, but I've felt that one reason that it was chosen was that it was a more secular country and therefore more apt to adopt a western style democracy.
I totally agree. The only way to tackle problems like that are with money. Now, where's the money gonna come from. The U.S. can't give "pay off" every third-world country to keep impoverished and ill-educated people from forming terroristic type societies. The arab world itself has shown no interest in spending the trillions of dollars that it has in trying to help. So, what solution?
Personally, I feel that the old "give a man a fish/teach a man to fish" saw applies. That means a capitalist society, and that will, unfortunately mean a regime change in a lot of places.
The current situation sucks, but I'm hopeful that something good will come out of Iraq. Like this could be the first domino that knocks over the whole region.
It's not that the arab culture should be destroyed and made "westernized", but that it should at least be "modernized". (For those that find this arrogant, please notice that I say that in the least arrogant way possible. Keeping your women uneducated is an example of a backward element of arab culture. There are many others.)
My $0.02
One sample point does not invalidate the statement. I'm truly sorry about your friend's predicament, but that does not make the statement untrue, at least in a statistical sense.
To quote Neil Boortz:
"Poor people are poor because they do the things that poor people do"
Do you have any linkage to back this up?
From what I can tell through the news and imagery is that these folks, both in Afghanistan and Iraq, were fighting the mujahedeen good fight with guerrilla tactics, which normally include hiding your weapons under robes until you sneak up on someone and in the case of most of these cowards intentionally hiding in occupied neighborhoods (in some cases even openly using human sheilds; even misguided celebrities).
Does that activity not invalidate clause #6?
I work for the Georgia (USA) GIS data clearinghouse. We have thousands of free datasets, and very reasonable pricing on downloadable imagery ($5 per USGS quarter-quad). Of course the imagery is kind of old (most recent is 1999 color infrared), but many people still find it useful. You do have to sign up, but believe me, it's not for any sinister purpose. There's only two people with direct access to the data; me and the guy in the office next to me. We don't do anything with it but collect aggregate statistics so the state of Georgia can determine how best to fund data collection by who is using it and how often it is being used.
The clearinghouse main page
Direct link to the data
There's also good imagery on the USGS site for free, but you have to use their viewer to view it (it's not downloadable...).
And as far as open-source GIS, has anyone here tried GeoTools? That's the most complete OSS GIS toolset I've seen.....
True enough.
I've always wanted to see what would happen if a business went after someone hiding behind one of those EULAs.......
I agree with most of your post, but I haven't seen many manufacturers care a whit about liability. In fact, the EULA specifically absolves MS of any liability. Most OSS licenses do the same, of course, but you imply that MS can be held liable, which they cannot.
Yeah, I've seen this quite a bit. It makes a bit more sense when you look at it from a business perspective (assuming you're talking about maintaining systems for a small business).
I have one manufacturing client that sells product to Walmart. Walmart requires all of its vendors to use a system called AS2/VAN in order to place/fill orders. The software recommended by Walmart is not trivial to set up (requires static IP's, SSL certs, etc.). When you consider that losing just one week's worth of orders could mean (in this case) somewhere in the neighborhood of $10k per week of lost sales, the idea of paying someone $150/hr isn't all that outlandish. If it costs $300 or more to get that all set up and working and maintained so be it.
It wasn't until this client pointed that out that it suddenly made a lot more sense.
Please point out to me where the guy used "OK" and "Cancel" in his post. He was talking about the placement of the buttons. Not the text on them.