You would be surprised how many people I spoke to knew nothing of this, most likely the single biggest and most important event that will EVER occur in that area.
I'm not surprised at all. Those in authority had no interest in letting the young people know about their defiance of authority. It might have given the youth some dangerous ideas.
The fact that the parlor trick also works for single photons is however cause for some concern.
Light travels as a particle AND as a wave. This is why the same result is achieved using a single proton.
Third, I think you are relying on Stephen Hawking's opinion, because he happens to be the famous guy. I don't think many of the people posting on slashdot know enough about physics to judge who is the better physicist.
Are you saying that you believe "shadow photons" to be more likely than wave interference for the phenomena we're discussing here?
Hawking describes this type of thing in A Brief History of Time. This is NOT proof of a paralell universe, it's proof that light travels as a wave as well as a particle.
I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to, but if I had to guess, it would be because the situation was different. It wasn't a case of the U.S. government being forced to fight for its own survival, so there wasn't the imperative to declare the American civilians in question "enemy combatants" like they certainly would be in the case of a revolution.
To give more details, the questioning was framed to guage the willingness of American Marines to fire upon American citizens who forceable resisted attempts to disarm them.
The press in the U.S. is starting to talk about how the goings on at Abu Ghraib are not an isolated incident. And if it's not an isolated incident, then only one of two things are possible:
You leave out a third possibility. War is hell. People exposed to hellish conditions will behave unpredictably.
Then how do you explain the 2 million dead Vietnamese compared with the 50 thousand dead U.S. military personnel?
I do believe that the 2 million figure also includes dead South Vietnamese.
No, sorry, Vietnam illustrates vividly how a purely civilian population has no chance against a well-trained and well-armed military.
It serves to illustrate how you don't need to kill more of the enemy to win the war.
Another fine example is Afghanistan. With minimal help from the US, the Afghan freedom fighters did a hell of a job against the Soviets.
And you keep talking about what the government would do when fighting for its own survival. I submit to you that once wholesale butchery of civillians is even considered, the government that we have now will already be dead.
Then I hope you enjoy living in the police state he so obviously wants to create for the rest of us.
Don't like how I'm voting? Blame the Democrats who have forced me into it. I'm not really a Bush supporter. I was opposed to entering Iraq. I think we need a new middle east policy. And I think that the president is making a huge mistake with his current middle east police, but I'm pro life and pro second amendment. I have no choice other than Bush in November.
That example is irrelevant here, because the government in question has somewhere between a thousands to one and a millions to one advantage in firepower, depending on which weapons they choose to deploy.
Vietnam?
The peashooters the civilian population controls will make barely a dent in the outcome.
Vietnam?
And since the military will do whatever it's told to do, as long as it can be convinced that the people it's targeting are "the enemy", there's little hope of the military siding with the revolutionaries.
If this is a foregone conclusion, why then did the Clinton Administration ask the Marines if they'd be willing to fire on American civillians?
The experience in Iraq with respect to the handling of prisoners proves that the military as a whole has no problem ignoring even the most basic of civil rights and treating "the enemy" like dirt.
The 7 individuals implicated in no way represent the whole of the US military.
So: case closed.
Only in your mind.
The 2nd Amendment doesn't mean shit anymore like it did back when it was drafted, because modern weaponry is so advanced and lethal that those who wield them have an advantage over those who don't so large that the framers couldn't possibly imagine it.
Vietnam? Farmers with cheap Russian and Chinese rifles as well as some home made booby traps did a pretty good job against these advanced military weapons.
Oh: and Bush will win this next election, because the people who make the voting machines will make sure of it. Count on it.
Weird, I always thought the first amendment was more "powerful" than the second one...
Then apparently you haven't put much thought into it.
When someone attempts to subvert your other rights like, for example, your right to vote. What makes you think that these same people won't try to subvert your right to free speech?
It's your right to keep and bear arms that protects those other rights. Some people say "That'll never happen in America. Well, the truth is that it has.
The Battle Of Athens is a great example of how corruption in the goverment can be stopped by an armed populace.
Instead of paying to access the University network and paying to access Napster... why not just BYOA, download LimeWire and be free of the following evils:
Because most people are not using Macintoshes. The rest of us are using Kazaa.
I used to know a guy that used to hit on girls by saying "Let me hit 'dat!"
You need to be really muscular and reasonably financially well off for that one to work.
I think he's still a virgin.
So, he's fat AND broke huh?
Conversely, I used to have to carry a stick around, because when a chick asked me what I did, I told them I hung mufflers, or I fixed broke-ass cars, or something to that effect.
I try to keep it more general. "I fix things when they're broken". When they ask for more details, I keep it general but truthful. "Computers, Cars, whatever someone is willing to pay me to fix."
It depends on the crowd, but I'm pushing 30. Chicks my age LOVE IT when a man is handy.
It's highly unlikely a fatal dose would make it into anybody's single glass of water before the alert got out.
Why do you assume that the goal is to kill? Imagine if you could give the entire city of Chicago diarrhea for two weeks.
Cryptosporidiumparvum is something that can be grown near the site of deployment. No need to go about sneaking huge volumes of it across the country.
Most of its victims make it not too much worse for the wear, but just think. If they could deliver it to a city like Chicago(I left out LA and NYC because of all of the bottled water drinkers in those places), what do you think it would mean to them? Remember the cheering in the streets on 9-11? Imagine the entire world laughing at us because everyone in the Windy City has the shits.
In many ways, terrorists are like hackers/crackers. They know the systems and the vulnerabilities and then they exploit them both.
Hey, wait a second... we're playing the game not to get the maximum lives returned, but instead to avoid the worst-case senario that has only struck once. That's somewhat a broken logic.
That all depends on how you gather the data set. How many hijackings of American planes since 2000 have resulted in the hijackers letting any/all of the hostages live?
We can't take the motives of DB Cooper or some radical from the 1960s into account when discussing possible hijackingf of today.
When a player is at a casino, the lure of the possibilty of a big jackpot convinces them to play games where the probabity of coming out positive just isn't there.
Stick with games like Craps, or Black Jack where the house's advantage is less than 1%. The house wins on volume.
Somehow, the concept of multiplying odds by result values is something average people just can't comprehend because emotions get in the way of cold logic... we act based on the possible emotional outcome rather than more likely outcome that logic would lead us to look for.
As you said before, we had no idea that terrorists would send their operatives to flight school so that they could crash planes into buildings. Well, until they did it.
Today, if some Saudi or Afghan immagrant tried to sign up at flight school, I'd be willing to bet that the FBI would conduct an investigation.
We have to find a way to cut back on unnecessary risks without going overboard. I'm personally not willing to give up any of my freedoms in exchange for "protection from terror". But, I don't have any problem with people at least thinking about the activities that they take for granted.
How does Canadian corporate life compare to that of the US?
My guess would be that in Canada they pile more shit upon you, because they're safe in the knowledge that you will not crack under pressure and come into the office one day with an Armalite AR-10 and take some 7.62mm Nato justice into your own hands.
Probably just a script that said "rm -rd ~/*" or something. On MacOS, you can pretty much make a script like that, give it whatever icon, and leave it lying around for dumb people.
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You would be surprised how many people I spoke to knew nothing of this, most likely the single biggest and most important event that will EVER occur in that area.
I'm not surprised at all. Those in authority had no interest in letting the young people know about their defiance of authority. It might have given the youth some dangerous ideas.
LK
The fact that the parlor trick also works for single photons is however cause for some concern.
Light travels as a particle AND as a wave. This is why the same result is achieved using a single proton.
Third, I think you are relying on Stephen Hawking's opinion, because he happens to be the famous guy. I don't think many of the people posting on slashdot know enough about physics to judge who is the better physicist.
Are you saying that you believe "shadow photons" to be more likely than wave interference for the phenomena we're discussing here?
LK
You are very arrogant.
You'll get no argument from me on that point.
I'm sure Deutch is very intelligent.
I know that Stephen Hawking is very intelligent.
To call him an idiot because you disagree with his hypothesis about quantumn mechanics makes you sound like an ass wipe.
I'll side with Hawking over someone who is presenting parlor tricks as "proof" of his theory.
LK
Hawking describes this type of thing in A Brief History of Time. This is NOT proof of a paralell universe, it's proof that light travels as a wave as well as a particle.
LK
I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to, but if I had to guess, it would be because the situation was different. It wasn't a case of the U.S. government being forced to fight for its own survival, so there wasn't the imperative to declare the American civilians in question "enemy combatants" like they certainly would be in the case of a revolution.
To give more details, the questioning was framed to guage the willingness of American Marines to fire upon American citizens who forceable resisted attempts to disarm them.
The press in the U.S. is starting to talk about how the goings on at Abu Ghraib are not an isolated incident. And if it's not an isolated incident, then only one of two things are possible:
You leave out a third possibility. War is hell. People exposed to hellish conditions will behave unpredictably.
Then how do you explain the 2 million dead Vietnamese compared with the 50 thousand dead U.S. military personnel?
I do believe that the 2 million figure also includes dead South Vietnamese.
No, sorry, Vietnam illustrates vividly how a purely civilian population has no chance against a well-trained and well-armed military.
It serves to illustrate how you don't need to kill more of the enemy to win the war.
Another fine example is Afghanistan. With minimal help from the US, the Afghan freedom fighters did a hell of a job against the Soviets.
And you keep talking about what the government would do when fighting for its own survival. I submit to you that once wholesale butchery of civillians is even considered, the government that we have now will already be dead.
Then I hope you enjoy living in the police state he so obviously wants to create for the rest of us.
Don't like how I'm voting? Blame the Democrats who have forced me into it. I'm not really a Bush supporter. I was opposed to entering Iraq. I think we need a new middle east policy. And I think that the president is making a huge mistake with his current middle east police, but I'm pro life and pro second amendment. I have no choice other than Bush in November.
LK
that they didn't build this just to win 2 grand from distributed.net.
LK
is it a Beowulf cluster?
LK
Hitler was right.
Stalin was left.
They were both left. Unless you expect us to believe that National Socialism was right...
Mussolini was right.
LK
That example is irrelevant here, because the government in question has somewhere between a thousands to one and a millions to one advantage in firepower, depending on which weapons they choose to deploy.
Vietnam?
The peashooters the civilian population controls will make barely a dent in the outcome.
Vietnam?
And since the military will do whatever it's told to do, as long as it can be convinced that the people it's targeting are "the enemy", there's little hope of the military siding with the revolutionaries.
If this is a foregone conclusion, why then did the Clinton Administration ask the Marines if they'd be willing to fire on American civillians?
The experience in Iraq with respect to the handling of prisoners proves that the military as a whole has no problem ignoring even the most basic of civil rights and treating "the enemy" like dirt.
The 7 individuals implicated in no way represent the whole of the US military.
So: case closed.
Only in your mind.
The 2nd Amendment doesn't mean shit anymore like it did back when it was drafted, because modern weaponry is so advanced and lethal that those who wield them have an advantage over those who don't so large that the framers couldn't possibly imagine it.
Vietnam? Farmers with cheap Russian and Chinese rifles as well as some home made booby traps did a pretty good job against these advanced military weapons.
Oh: and Bush will win this next election, because the people who make the voting machines will make sure of it. Count on it.
God willing. I will be voting for him.
LK
So now you'll have to worry about smelling like rotten eggs when you charge up your PDA.
LK
like hackers won't figure this out within a day or two
Can you say iOpener?
LK
Scared, of what? A cure to a plague?
Do these people also soil themselves at every sunrise?
LK
Let the orgies begin!
LK
Weird, I always thought the first amendment was more "powerful" than the second one...
Then apparently you haven't put much thought into it.
When someone attempts to subvert your other rights like, for example, your right to vote. What makes you think that these same people won't try to subvert your right to free speech?
It's your right to keep and bear arms that protects those other rights. Some people say "That'll never happen in America. Well, the truth is that it has.
The Battle Of Athens is a great example of how corruption in the goverment can be stopped by an armed populace.
LK
With all that spyware? Christ almighty.
Not at all. When KazaaLite was killed off Clean KMD took its place. No spyware here baby!
LimeWire is cross-platform. You can use it on Windows, GNU/Linux, FreeBSD, or OS X.
Of course it is, but I have yet to meet anyone in person who uses Limewire and is not a Mac user.
LK
Instead of paying to access the University network and paying to access Napster... why not just BYOA, download LimeWire and be free of the following evils:
Because most people are not using Macintoshes. The rest of us are using Kazaa.
LK
I used to know a guy that used to hit on girls by saying "Let me hit 'dat!"
You need to be really muscular and reasonably financially well off for that one to work.
I think he's still a virgin.
So, he's fat AND broke huh?
Conversely, I used to have to carry a stick around, because when a chick asked me what I did, I told them I hung mufflers, or I fixed broke-ass cars, or something to that effect.
I try to keep it more general. "I fix things when they're broken". When they ask for more details, I keep it general but truthful. "Computers, Cars, whatever someone is willing to pay me to fix."
It depends on the crowd, but I'm pushing 30. Chicks my age LOVE IT when a man is handy.
LK
It's highly unlikely a fatal dose would make it into anybody's single glass of water before the alert got out.
Why do you assume that the goal is to kill? Imagine if you could give the entire city of Chicago diarrhea for two weeks.
Cryptosporidiumparvum is something that can be grown near the site of deployment. No need to go about sneaking huge volumes of it across the country.
Most of its victims make it not too much worse for the wear, but just think. If they could deliver it to a city like Chicago(I left out LA and NYC because of all of the bottled water drinkers in those places), what do you think it would mean to them? Remember the cheering in the streets on 9-11? Imagine the entire world laughing at us because everyone in the Windy City has the shits.
LK
In many ways, terrorists are like hackers/crackers. They know the systems and the vulnerabilities and then they exploit them both.
Hey, wait a second... we're playing the game not to get the maximum lives returned, but instead to avoid the worst-case senario that has only struck once. That's somewhat a broken logic.
That all depends on how you gather the data set. How many hijackings of American planes since 2000 have resulted in the hijackers letting any/all of the hostages live?
We can't take the motives of DB Cooper or some radical from the 1960s into account when discussing possible hijackingf of today.
When a player is at a casino, the lure of the possibilty of a big jackpot convinces them to play games where the probabity of coming out positive just isn't there.
Stick with games like Craps, or Black Jack where the house's advantage is less than 1%. The house wins on volume.
Somehow, the concept of multiplying odds by result values is something average people just can't comprehend because emotions get in the way of cold logic... we act based on the possible emotional outcome rather than more likely outcome that logic would lead us to look for.
As you said before, we had no idea that terrorists would send their operatives to flight school so that they could crash planes into buildings. Well, until they did it.
Today, if some Saudi or Afghan immagrant tried to sign up at flight school, I'd be willing to bet that the FBI would conduct an investigation.
We have to find a way to cut back on unnecessary risks without going overboard. I'm personally not willing to give up any of my freedoms in exchange for "protection from terror". But, I don't have any problem with people at least thinking about the activities that they take for granted.
LK
Well now we KNOW you're lying.
Not necessarily. Making your job sound cool to women is a lot like marketspeak.
You're not a "code monkey", you're a "database consultant". You're not "at the bottom of the ladder", you're "approaching your career goals".
Women use words differenly than we do. Once you learn that, you'll get a lot more chicks.
LK
but since I have no experience with it, can anyone give me a link to a tutorial?
LK
A quick look at the political and activist webby winners indicates to me that the majority of them are left-leaning. Is this a coincidence?
LK
How does Canadian corporate life compare to that of the US?
My guess would be that in Canada they pile more shit upon you, because they're safe in the knowledge that you will not crack under pressure and come into the office one day with an Armalite AR-10 and take some 7.62mm Nato justice into your own hands.
LK
I was thinking the same thing.
LK
Probably just a script that said "rm -rd ~/*" or something. On MacOS, you can pretty much make a script like that, give it whatever icon, and leave it lying around for dumb people.
/*".
He should be thankful that it wasn't "rm -rf
LK