I haven't bought any CDs since this whole RIAA vs Napster thing started either. The only CD that I plan to buy is one that I've wanted since March, but it keeps getting pushed back. The current release date is October 3.
I figure that I'm still boycotting, because this is a CD I would have bought 6 months ago, but it's release was pushed back.
But to suggest that there's some kind of conspiracy to silence any anti-abortion opinion is just insane.
If you believe that, then you're either ignorant or a liar. FACE is even being used to arrest protestors who sit across the street from abortion clinics and pray. FACE is to prevent people for blocking clinics and threatening employees. If someone "feels threatened" by a group of people sitting across the street praying, that is enough for the police to roust them. It's not about protecting doctors anymore, it's about silencing people who disagree with the pro abortion position.
If they cared as much as they claim they do then why aren't they out there giving these woman help on alternatives to abortion, instead of making veiled threats towards the doctors?
No threats were made, the claim that there was is an obvious attempt to silence people who hold a different opinion. It's a violation of the ACLA's first amendment rights.
Why not go the ultimate step and volunteer to adopt and raise these children themselves?
Why not hold people accountable for their own actions?
And I agree with you about trying to compare with commercial farms and slaughterhouse to death camps, but how many meat packers do you know that have been gunned down by a animal rights activist? It's all in the context.
In other words, it's different when it comes to abortion doctors. Or people who agree with you.
Doing my taxes makes me uncomfortable, changing a nasty diaper makes me uncomfortable, the thought of some loons putting up my name and all my vital information on a list with the names of others (and some that have been crossed out because they're murdered)... well that threatens me. And yet again it's all in the context.
You have no right to anonymity. If you're ashamed of what you do, maybe you shouldn't be doing it.
Every time someone tries to urge someone to stop doing something, be it smoking, eating meat, or aborting pregnancies you could call it psychological warfare, calling it that doesn't make it wrong.
If they weren't intending to threaten these people or intimidate them then ask yourself what they were intending when they put this up with dripping blood font and compared it to the Nazi War Crime Trials?
It's about trying to change minds. If you think that eating meat is murder, you'd be just as free to compare commercial farms and slaughterhouses to death camps. Have you ever seen an abortion? It can be a bloody procedure, what's wrong with depicting it in that light?
Things which you find uncomforatble aren't threats just because you don't want to see them.
Since then, felonies have been expanded to include nonviolent crimes, and such a categorical permission is no longer constitutional. How lives could be "in danger" from someone's cracking into a corporate website is uncertain.
Police must be prepared to use deadly force at any and all times, even traffic tickets can get them killed. If they police are serving a warrant, and you reach for some unknown object, you WILL get shot.
I say that if we could get enough volunteers to follow those listed doctors we'd accomplish several things. I mean silent people with laptops, cell modems and cameras.
1. Someone is going to be less likely to murder one of them if there are 10 witnesses nearby.
2. If we can let everyone who looks at one of the doctors know how s/he makes a living perhaps some of them could be shamed into a different profession.
3. If there is video of us being nothing but non-violent, the police would have a harder time justifying the abuse that pro-life demonstrators have had to endure in the not so distant past.
Crossing out the names was just unnecessary and proved the writer's intent to incite violence.
No it doesn't, that's a lie. Or are you going to tell me that no abortion doctors were murdered before Horsley and the ACLA went into operation?
Perhaps it's a celebration of what has happened to these people, but NO WHERE on the site was anyone encouraged to use violence. The goal of the Nuremberg files website was to gather information on abortion doctors because the ACLA and Horsley believe that one day there will be trials held against them. Many Nazis escaped the Nuremberg trials because of lack of evidence, they wish to see nothing like that happen again.
If their stated goal is truly what they want, the "incite violence" arguement goes out the window.
I think the cleaner solution would have been for some white hats to hack it and quietly replace the doctors' names and addresses with those of the site maintainers and anti-abortion activists involved.
Defacing someone's web page is NOT a white hat activity.
The list provides people with fuel to add to an already rising violent group.
What do you think about telephone directories? In my local yellow pages there is a big section titled "abortion". If someone has it in his mind to off an abortion doctor, Horsley's site doesn't do much to help him.
What this case is about is one group of people trying to silence people who feel differently than they do. If planned parenthood had put up a similar list, giving the same information it would have been considered a public service. Just because it was a group opposed to abortion who placed the information on their site, it's considered a "threat". Where does that end? If someone feels threatened, does that mean that you threatened them? FACE has even been carried to such an extreme that a man was sentenced to over a year in jail for parking a truck across the streed from an abortion clinic.
Linux will suffer the same fate that Apple did if they keep trying to go after the same market as M$. The clueless desktop user market belongs to M$ for the forseeable future. DVD, absolutely, USB, definately, Winmodems? Fuck no!. We use linux because of speed and stability, a software driven modem takes away from the available system resources.
Go for the high end, go for the power users, M$'s foundation is too big to wear away, but you can leapfrog them and take the top.
A license that allows open source code to be included in a program that is distributed in binary form only. Let the MPAA prove that it's the verboten code if they can't get access to the source.
"What's that you have, a warrant? I'm sorry, but my hard drive just crashed 5 minutes ago, have a look."
Here in Pittsburgh, you NEED to have a degree of some sort to get in the door at IT companies. They ignore that fact that you may have integrated databases on multiple platforms, built 100mb lans from the ground up and can make a machine sit up and bark, if you don't have that paper (or at least proof that you're working towards it) you're SOL.
Sounds like Pitt. A friend of mine changed his major from Computer Engineering to CompSci because there were only like 2 classes different between Electrical Engineering and Computer Engineering...
But the scanner came with a license, which restricts your usage and specifically says the scanner is not your property.
Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I was underthe impression that the only agreement that one was subjected to was presented upon installation of the windows software for the scanner. If that is the case, If one does not agree to that license, then how does DC expect to hold them to it anyway?
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I haven't bought any CDs since this whole RIAA vs Napster thing started either. The only CD that I plan to buy is one that I've wanted since March, but it keeps getting pushed back. The current release date is October 3.
I figure that I'm still boycotting, because this is a CD I would have bought 6 months ago, but it's release was pushed back.
LK
For instance, connect your soundcard "out" to your "in" and record--there's no getting around that.
That may not degrade the signal enough to get rid of any watermarks.
LK
Sounds a bit like Poe.
But to suggest that there's some kind of conspiracy to silence any anti-abortion opinion is just insane.
If you believe that, then you're either ignorant or a liar. FACE is even being used to arrest protestors who sit across the street from abortion clinics and pray. FACE is to prevent people for blocking clinics and threatening employees. If someone "feels threatened" by a group of people sitting across the street praying, that is enough for the police to roust them. It's not about protecting doctors anymore, it's about silencing people who disagree with the pro abortion position.
LK
If they cared as much as they claim they do then why aren't they out there giving these woman help on alternatives to abortion, instead of making veiled threats towards the doctors?
No threats were made, the claim that there was is an obvious attempt to silence people who hold a different opinion. It's a violation of the ACLA's first amendment rights.
Why not go the ultimate step and volunteer to adopt and raise these children themselves?
Why not hold people accountable for their own actions?
LK
And I agree with you about trying to compare with commercial farms and slaughterhouse to death camps, but how many meat packers do you know that have been gunned down by a animal rights activist? It's all in the context.
In other words, it's different when it comes to abortion doctors. Or people who agree with you.
Doing my taxes makes me uncomfortable, changing a nasty diaper makes me uncomfortable, the thought of some loons putting up my name and all my vital information on a list with the names of others (and some that have been crossed out because they're murdered)... well that threatens me. And yet again it's all in the context.
You have no right to anonymity. If you're ashamed of what you do, maybe you shouldn't be doing it.
LK
The dripping blood obviously couldn't have been used because they people who run the site feel sorry for the children whose blood was spilled. Right?
LK
The whole thing is psychological warfare.
Every time someone tries to urge someone to stop doing something, be it smoking, eating meat, or aborting pregnancies you could call it psychological warfare, calling it that doesn't make it wrong.
If they weren't intending to threaten these people or intimidate them then ask yourself what they were intending when they put this up with dripping blood font and compared it to the Nazi War Crime Trials?
It's about trying to change minds. If you think that eating meat is murder, you'd be just as free to compare commercial farms and slaughterhouses to death camps. Have you ever seen an abortion? It can be a bloody procedure, what's wrong with depicting it in that light?
Things which you find uncomforatble aren't threats just because you don't want to see them.
LK
Since then, felonies have been expanded to include nonviolent crimes, and such a categorical permission is no longer constitutional. How lives could be "in danger" from someone's cracking into a corporate website is uncertain.
Police must be prepared to use deadly force at any and all times, even traffic tickets can get them killed. If they police are serving a warrant, and you reach for some unknown object, you WILL get shot.
LK
I say that if we could get enough volunteers to follow those listed doctors we'd accomplish several things. I mean silent people with laptops, cell modems and cameras.
1. Someone is going to be less likely to murder one of them if there are 10 witnesses nearby.
2. If we can let everyone who looks at one of the doctors know how s/he makes a living perhaps some of them could be shamed into a different profession.
3. If there is video of us being nothing but non-violent, the police would have a harder time justifying the abuse that pro-life demonstrators have had to endure in the not so distant past.
LK
Crossing out the names was just unnecessary and proved the writer's intent to incite violence.
No it doesn't, that's a lie. Or are you going to tell me that no abortion doctors were murdered before Horsley and the ACLA went into operation?
Perhaps it's a celebration of what has happened to these people, but NO WHERE on the site was anyone encouraged to use violence. The goal of the Nuremberg files website was to gather information on abortion doctors because the ACLA and Horsley believe that one day there will be trials held against them. Many Nazis escaped the Nuremberg trials because of lack of evidence, they wish to see nothing like that happen again.
If their stated goal is truly what they want, the "incite violence" arguement goes out the window.
LK
I think the cleaner solution would have been for some white hats to hack it and quietly replace the doctors' names and addresses with those of the site maintainers and anti-abortion activists involved.
Defacing someone's web page is NOT a white hat activity.
LK
The list provides people with fuel to add to an already rising violent group.
What do you think about telephone directories? In my local yellow pages there is a big section titled "abortion". If someone has it in his mind to off an abortion doctor, Horsley's site doesn't do much to help him.
What this case is about is one group of people trying to silence people who feel differently than they do. If planned parenthood had put up a similar list, giving the same information it would have been considered a public service. Just because it was a group opposed to abortion who placed the information on their site, it's considered a "threat". Where does that end? If someone feels threatened, does that mean that you threatened them? FACE has even been carried to such an extreme that a man was sentenced to over a year in jail for parking a truck across the streed from an abortion clinic.
LK
It's constitutional for police to use deadly force against ANYONE if they believe that lives are in danger.
LK
$25 for DVD media > $1.50 for CD-R media.
If you want to protect your movies, put them somewhere safe AFTER you back them up.
LK
Linux will suffer the same fate that Apple did if they keep trying to go after the same market as M$. The clueless desktop user market belongs to M$ for the forseeable future. DVD, absolutely, USB, definately, Winmodems? Fuck no!. We use linux because of speed and stability, a software driven modem takes away from the available system resources.
Go for the high end, go for the power users, M$'s foundation is too big to wear away, but you can leapfrog them and take the top.
LK
A license that allows open source code to be included in a program that is distributed in binary form only. Let the MPAA prove that it's the verboten code if they can't get access to the source.
"What's that you have, a warrant? I'm sorry, but my hard drive just crashed 5 minutes ago, have a look."
LK
Rather than type
"turn left", "open door", "blow motherfuckers' heads off"
Most of us would rather , ,
LK
5 show up from time to time at my group's meetings. Granted most of them are wives or daughters of male members, but still they're there.
Someone HAS to have this stuff. WHO'S GOT IT?
LK
A tower attached to a cable that ascends into the heavens. This is by no means a "NEW" idea.
It's great that my grandchildren may actually see it happen, but it's not new.
LK
Here in Pittsburgh, you NEED to have a degree of some sort to get in the door at IT companies. They ignore that fact that you may have integrated databases on multiple platforms, built 100mb lans from the ground up and can make a machine sit up and bark, if you don't have that paper (or at least proof that you're working towards it) you're SOL.
LK
Sounds like Pitt. A friend of mine changed his major from Computer Engineering to CompSci because there were only like 2 classes different between Electrical Engineering and Computer Engineering...
LK
wonder what getting laid feels like?
It's wonderful, like warm apple pie.
LK
But the scanner came with a license, which restricts your usage and specifically says the scanner is not your property.
Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I was underthe impression that the only agreement that one was subjected to was presented upon installation of the windows software for the scanner. If that is the case, If one does not agree to that license, then how does DC expect to hold them to it anyway?
LK