I would love to hear someone dispute this with logic. That I would know how to deal with. No one does that. They only dispute it with emotion, and with blind assertion, and refuse to believe it, but they can give me no rational reason to follow them....
That is because the hatred of guns is based on superstition. They believe that the guns contain "evil spirits" that can take over good people. They do not see that themselves, but listening to their words makes it evident.
... "Road Closed" and "No Left Turn" work just as well, and those signs have existed for longer than most of us here have. You don't have to worry about hacking, they're sturdy against most impact damage, and you don't need electricity keep them going..
It's not the electronic signs, it being too lazy to use a decent password!
Because real machines are even less perfect than people.
So you're saying, for example, that hammering a nail with your bare hand is going to be less error-prone than using a hammer as the means? Or that a person running at oh, 100 km per hour is going to be involved in less accidents than a car going 100 km per hour?
Some are better at some things than others, in both senses of the phrase. It doesn't mean that one is better in everything. That's only in comic books... 8-)
... Isn't there a kill switch engineered in at the hardware level?
Hell, why would you create a self-replicating autonomous swarm in the first place?...
See the X-Universe series of video games and stories, by Egosoft, available on Steam and other places. This series is the longest run of space sf games that I know of.
See "Xenon" and "The Terraformers" in the online encyclopedias. (Yes, plural.) The terrans thought they had a good reason... 8-P
"AI's can usually be tricked by injecting surreal elements to the conversation or asking about current events, or recent things."
Completely unnecessary. Simply carry on a conversation that requires a building on previous discussion. Every one I've ever encountered failed within a dozen exchanges. The most common technique the "AI" programmers use is to pretend to deflect the conversation. Usually quite lamely.
That's a memory limitation. These days, even though the CPU speed has plateued, the disk size is still getting larger. So memory limitations are not as significant. Unless the software is set to erase it, but that is a programmer mistake...
... My simple definition of AI is any program capable of making something smarter than it. Humans fit that definition, as most children are smarter than their parents....
Not true. The children just -think- they are smarter than their parents. Twenty years later, if they survive, they are amazed how much smarter their parents have become!
It only passed because 90% of humans respond on the internet with no more thought than a computer! 8-)
Standard word patterns that are sent as a "symbol" no more advanced than pictographs, just because it is what they heard "cool" people say. People can think, but they often don't...
... But I'm not advocating belt & suspenders programming. That's usually bad engineering. Bridge builders don't decide to just toss in a few more girders "just to be on the safe side". Writing algorithms that are robust and resilient without being redundant takes a very thoughtful approach.
They used a dangerous speed hack, in a message that was used occasionally and was non critical. The speed hack was why the out-of-range was not detected. That is not good programming, or good judgement.
Yikes! I saw that in Vermont when I was up there years ago.
They get something like that down south, too, when it gets so hot that the asphalt starts to melt. Apperrently, not only does the underlayment support the surfacing, but the surfacing supports the underlayment.
Zazzle is probably erring on the side of not getting sued.
Zazzle probably uses automatic software for this, just like some others. And software has no more common sense that the programmer that wrote it, which is often not much. They probably didn't even know what was happening...
I remember the Howdy Doody show on TV. I remember Brillcream... and used it. I graduated highschool before the moon landing.
I have -shoes- older than you !! 8-b
He,He... And get off of my lawn.
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There can be more than one way to do things. If the user does something expecting a result, then if possible that result should occur. Some things are mutually exclusive, but the idea that there is only one way to do it shows a lack of imagination. And maybe some hubris.
By the way, I have a programmer's text editor that has the autosave configurable. And also has a save-as. I find that they work well together if the autosave is not set too short.
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The change to Save-as had the unfortunate effect of lost functionality. If you do not see this, then you are a part of the developer's problem. The users want to save the current state without saving over the previous state. The "upgrade" is destroying the previous state. The new version looses functionality. If the developers do not think that is important, and the users do, then the developers are automatically wrong...
Can we stop using the term "engineer"? It's not only meaningless, it does a serious disservice to actual engineers.
A Software Engineer is a person with degrees and experience in both Engineering and Programming/Computer Science. There really is such a thing. And it makes a difference to the resulting applications.
(Of course, a lot of people claim a lot of things and the term is sometimes abused.)
"Politics and the English Language", George Orwell.
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Objective considerations of contemporary phenomena compel the conclusion that success or failure in competitive activities exhibits no tendency to be commensurate with innate capacity, but that a considerable element of the unpredictable must invariably be taken into account."
That sounds clear to me... Maybe you are reading it in the wrong dialect? 8-)
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Your logic is also impeccable!
I would love to hear someone dispute this with logic. That I would know how to deal with. No one does that. They only dispute it with emotion, and with blind assertion, and refuse to believe it, but they can give me no rational reason to follow them. ...
That is because the hatred of guns is based on superstition. They believe that the guns contain "evil spirits" that can take over good people. They do not see that themselves, but listening to their words makes it evident.
They just want to drive it. 8-P
They probably promised each of the voters a ride...
people getting fed up with the gov are going on killing sprees. Gov at fault, let ban it.
Sounds like a good idea to me! 8-)
... "Road Closed" and "No Left Turn" work just as well, and those signs have existed for longer than most of us here have. You don't have to worry about hacking, they're sturdy against most impact damage, and you don't need electricity keep them going..
It's not the electronic signs, it being too lazy to use a decent password!
Because real machines are even less perfect than people.
So you're saying, for example, that hammering a nail with your bare hand is going to be less error-prone than using a hammer as the means? Or that a person running at oh, 100 km per hour is going to be involved in less accidents than a car going 100 km per hour?
Some are better at some things than others, in both senses of the phrase.
It doesn't mean that one is better in everything. That's only in comic books... 8-)
If the evil AI's success rate is below 100%
Why would its success rate be below 100%?
Because real machines are even less perfect than people. Except in comic books. 8-P
I know, because I fix them...
... Isn't there a kill switch engineered in at the hardware level?
Hell, why would you create a self-replicating autonomous swarm in the first place? ...
See the X-Universe series of video games and stories, by Egosoft, available on Steam and other places. This series is the longest run of space sf games that I know of.
See "Xenon" and "The Terraformers" in the online encyclopedias. (Yes, plural.)
The terrans thought they had a good reason... 8-P
If you don't declare your variables explicitly, then you are building a "Bug Farm".
Never use undeclared variables, you will regret it...
"AI's can usually be tricked by injecting surreal elements to the conversation or asking about current events, or recent things."
Completely unnecessary. Simply carry on a conversation that requires a building on previous discussion. Every one I've ever encountered failed within a dozen exchanges. The most common technique the "AI" programmers use is to pretend to deflect the conversation. Usually quite lamely.
That's a memory limitation. These days, even though the CPU speed has plateued, the disk size is still getting larger. So memory limitations are not as significant. Unless the software is set to erase it, but that is a programmer mistake...
And then you want to replace them by software? That makes no sense.
Remember the old joke, about the man who lost his job and was replaced by "a button" that was not connected to anything...
... My simple definition of AI is any program capable of making something smarter than it. Humans fit that definition, as most children are smarter than their parents. ...
Not true. The children just -think- they are smarter than their parents. Twenty years later, if they survive, they are amazed how much smarter their parents have become!
It only passed because 90% of humans respond on the internet with no more thought than a computer! 8-)
Standard word patterns that are sent as a "symbol" no more advanced than pictographs, just because it is what they heard "cool" people say.
People can think, but they often don't...
Never use sarcasm or irony on the internet. Half the readers will think it is serious, and the other half are Trolls! 8-)
Yes, this is exactly what I was wondering. WHY?
If political speech is protected, why exactly are they tracking it? ...
You are forgetting that there actually are Real threats in there.
... OpenSource doesn't mean it's not written by people, with peoples' quirks and issues.
That's true.
But it is not an excuse.
... But I'm not advocating belt & suspenders programming. That's usually bad engineering. Bridge builders don't decide to just toss in a few more girders "just to be on the safe side". Writing algorithms that are robust and resilient without being redundant takes a very thoughtful approach.
They used a dangerous speed hack, in a message that was used occasionally and was non critical.
The speed hack was why the out-of-range was not detected. That is not good programming, or good judgement.
Windows don't have to deal with frost heaves.
Yikes! I saw that in Vermont when I was up there years ago.
They get something like that down south, too, when it gets so hot that the asphalt starts to melt. Apperrently, not only does the underlayment support the surfacing, but the surfacing supports the underlayment.
Clearly the solution is to have those people write custom code to do the job rather than using spread sheets.
Ha ha! Now that's a funny response. :^)
However, it is the correct one. He is not talking about the work you do...
Quickbooks is not a dedicated program, and it can not be code-reviewed, either.
He is talking about scientific programs that need to be reviewed by many other people, to a level that can not be done with off-the-shelf tools.
That type of progrm is often written in Fortran, mosly because it uses libraries that have been reviewed before and that reduces the work.
Zazzle is probably erring on the side of not getting sued.
Zazzle probably uses automatic software for this, just like some others. And software has no more common sense that the programmer that wrote it, which is often not much. They probably didn't even know what was happening...
I remember the Howdy Doody show on TV. I remember Brillcream... and used it. I graduated highschool before the moon landing.
I have -shoes- older than you !! 8-b
He,He...
And get off of my lawn.
There can be more than one way to do things. If the user does something expecting a result, then if possible that result should occur.
Some things are mutually exclusive, but the idea that there is only one way to do it shows a lack of imagination. And maybe some hubris.
By the way, I have a programmer's text editor that has the autosave configurable. And also has a save-as. I find that they work well together if the autosave is not set too short.
The change to Save-as had the unfortunate effect of lost functionality. If you do not see this, then you are a part of the developer's problem.
The users want to save the current state without saving over the previous state. The "upgrade" is destroying the previous state. The new version looses functionality.
If the developers do not think that is important, and the users do, then the developers are automatically wrong...
Can we stop using the term "engineer"? It's not only meaningless, it does a serious disservice to actual engineers.
A Software Engineer is a person with degrees and experience in both Engineering and Programming/Computer Science.
There really is such a thing. And it makes a difference to the resulting applications.
(Of course, a lot of people claim a lot of things and the term is sometimes abused.)
"Politics and the English Language", George Orwell.
...
Objective considerations of contemporary phenomena compel the conclusion that success or failure in competitive activities exhibits no tendency to be commensurate with innate capacity, but that a considerable element of the unpredictable must invariably be taken into account."
That sounds clear to me... Maybe you are reading it in the wrong dialect? 8-)