completely off topic, but your chatbot is cool as shit...I just downloaded the CVS and have been talking to Anna for about 30 minutes! I think I'm in love;) hehe
But I never thought the quicktime format was all that good anyway....what is SOO hard about making a Linux port if they want the format to be more popular?
When it comes to Kernel config, even though I'm a CLI guy, I HAVE to use make xconfig. Usually I only have to change ONE setting, so make menuconfig can take me forever...
OK..you have a point...you can do./configure to use the standard options, or if you want more control, the COOL stuff can be added with command line switches. Learning the command line, ANYONE can be a power user. It's not hard..one just has to get away from thinking a GUI means easy. An example is in order..I odn't know of ANY way to do this in Windows.(never tried to find out actually)..but how do you find which directories take up the most space? du -sm $(find $1 -type d -maxdepth 1 -xdev) | sort -g
Put in file and make it a shell script... THAT's the power of the command line.
That was why I made my original port...how is a GUI with an OK button, different than a non-graphical installer with a "Hit enter to continue?". Do people really NEED the GUI when a text instaler does the SAME thing? Hit enter 10 times or the OK button 10 times (which the enter key should do anyway)...you're agreeing to the same question, no?
"I" was saying that a command line install is the same as a GUI install. The poster said he needed a GUI install. I was trying to imply that a command line install is the SAME. I am a cLI user myself, so I understand your argument
Although, I'd prefer if Ximian had a command line option. It's a real pain to ssh in and export X JUST to update damn software! If they had a ximian-update -all option, I'd be in heaven..how is that harder??
The install is only 1% of the entire system. An install takes anywhere from 10 minutes to 45 minutes. The REST of the time, you're using it. I cou'dn't care elss what pretty pics the installer has...once it's installed, I like the power of linux.
The question I have for you, is how is a graphical interface with a button that says OK? different from a command line message thats says "Hit enter to continue?"
I remember when I still used windows (97/98) and there were ALWAYS new tidbits I learned on a daily basis. Same thing now with UNIX/Linux..like here's a tidbit I learned today: find/home/me -type f | -name '*.gz' ! -perm -100 -atime +30 -print | xargs gzip -v
Automatically zips up all files that haven't been touched in 30 days...now, I could have said (damn..windows had this cool little app that did this for me), but every now and then , we find tidbits that make our lives easier. Linux didnt suck because it didnt HAVE this tool. I just didnt know. One can't possibly know how to do everything on a system at any point in time...
because maybe you can traverse multiple directories, or every file created on a certain date, or every file made by a particualr user, or every file that has the thirf letter of "l". You CAN drag to the recycle bin in Linux, however, I find it easier to type rm -rf | grep "Jul 11" to delete every file that was made on July 11th....
The reason I hate winodws, is that once I got used to every Linux utility, I felt CRAMPED on Windows. Sure, I can open the command prompt on windows, but no matter HOW hard I try, I still can't copy a CD and burn it with 2 lines on the command prompt. Absolutely impossible. While I work in a GUI, I have up to 4 shells open on my Linux desktop. I can edit config files faster than clicking checkboxes. ex: vi blah.config/search term:wq done
I feel useless when I can't run another unix program from another box. I miss emacs..oh man, there's SOOO much stuff I can't do in Windows. The shell is where it's at...the SHELL is what makes UNIX what it is.
Well, for me at least, I think it's rather hard to crack software....don't you have to get a hex editor and find the serial number somehow? You basically have to read hex/assembly..How come THESE guys don't charge for their time in cracking the software?
I haven't had to recompile the kernel to add new hardware in about 2 years....when every piece of hardware is compiled as a module, the probel is solbved
Or you can just wait until v. 9 is released (non-BETA). Most companies own't upgrade form 6 because alot of software is not "certified" with 2.7 or 2.8, like Oracle....
What is citrix used for? Well, for one it tries to make the the NT terminal server fast..it uses it's own protocol to highly compress audio and sound (I can get audio and video on a remote Windows conole!), and can even remotely display DirectX....it's just a layer added to Win NT Term Server to make it like a local connection....lime a TRUE X connection in *NIX..however, it costs THOUSANDS of dollars..I got this from my old job (a perf of being laid off:) ).I only access my windows machine thru citrix because I use it SOOOOO rarely and ir's DOWNSTAIRS in the basement:)
I have a curious setup... I have a small windows PC for experimentation that I run a Citrix Server on... I have screenshot of the new X11 (WindowMaker)running on Cygwin accessed remotely throught the Linux ICA client on WindowMaker! Go here:
http://cguru.ma.cx/cygwin.png
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Not everygame worked w/ Fastload...I rememebr you having to hold the reset button in the back to disable the fast load feature.....
I was gonna say that...the Adventure Construction Set came out before the 286 even existed
completely off topic, but your chatbot is cool as shit...I just downloaded the CVS and have been talking to Anna for about 30 minutes! I think I'm in love ;) hehe
But could it run APache? :) hehe
What command line mucking around? an example?
that's funny...a few weeks? My Linux box has been up for 10 months straight! And it would have been more if I didnt add memory.
But I never thought the quicktime format was all that good anyway....what is SOO hard about making a Linux port if they want the format to be more popular?
When it comes to Kernel config, even though I'm a CLI guy, I HAVE to use make xconfig. Usually I only have to change ONE setting, so make menuconfig can take me forever...
OK..you have a point...you can do ./configure to use the standard options, or if you want more control, the COOL stuff can be added with command line switches. Learning the command line, ANYONE can be a power user. It's not hard..one just has to get away from thinking a GUI means easy. An example is in order..I odn't know of ANY way to do this in Windows.(never tried to find out actually)..but how do you find which directories take up the most space?
du -sm $(find $1 -type d -maxdepth 1 -xdev) | sort -g
Put in file and make it a shell script...
THAT's the power of the command line.
That was why I made my original port...how is a GUI with an OK button, different than a non-graphical installer with a "Hit enter to continue?".
Do people really NEED the GUI when a text instaler does the SAME thing? Hit enter 10 times or the OK button 10 times (which the enter key should do anyway)...you're agreeing to the same question, no?
"I" was saying that a command line install is the same as a GUI install. The poster said he needed a GUI install. I was trying to imply that a command line install is the SAME. I am a cLI user myself, so I understand your argument
I agree, look at SMIT on AIX...perfection of system configuration
Although, I'd prefer if Ximian had a command line option. It's a real pain to ssh in and export X JUST to update damn software! If they had a ximian-update -all option, I'd be in heaven..how is that harder??
The install is only 1% of the entire system. An install takes anywhere from 10 minutes to 45 minutes. The REST of the time, you're using it. I cou'dn't care elss what pretty pics the installer has...once it's installed, I like the power of linux.
The question I have for you, is how is a graphical interface with a button that says OK? different from a command line message thats says "Hit enter to continue?"
I remember when I still used windows (97/98) and there were ALWAYS new tidbits I learned on a daily basis. Same thing now with UNIX/Linux..like here's a tidbit I learned today: /home/me -type f | -name '*.gz' ! -perm -100 -atime +30 -print | xargs gzip -v
find
Automatically zips up all files that haven't been touched in 30 days...now, I could have said (damn..windows had this cool little app that did this for me), but every now and then , we find tidbits that make our lives easier. Linux didnt suck because it didnt HAVE this tool. I just didnt know. One can't possibly know how to do everything on a system at any point in time...
Obviously , you've never hacked the kernel...I consider kernel hackers an elite group, and I respect them.
because maybe you can traverse multiple directories, or every file created on a certain date, or every file made by a particualr user, or every file that has the thirf letter of "l". You CAN drag to the recycle bin in Linux, however, I find it easier to type rm -rf | grep "Jul 11" to delete every file that was made on July 11th....
The reason I hate winodws, is that once I got used to every Linux utility, I felt CRAMPED on Windows. Sure, I can open the command prompt on windows, but no matter HOW hard I try, I still can't copy a CD and burn it with 2 lines on the command prompt. Absolutely impossible. While I work in a GUI, I have up to 4 shells open on my Linux desktop. I can edit config files faster than clicking checkboxes. /search term :wq
ex:
vi blah.config
done
I feel useless when I can't run another unix program from another box. I miss emacs..oh man, there's SOOO much stuff I can't do in Windows. The shell is where it's at...the SHELL is what makes UNIX what it is.
Well, for me at least, I think it's rather hard to crack software....don't you have to get a hex editor and find the serial number somehow? You basically have to read hex/assembly..How come THESE guys don't charge for their time in cracking the software?
I haven't had to recompile the kernel to add new hardware in about 2 years....when every piece of hardware is compiled as a module, the probel is solbved
Or you can just wait until v. 9 is released (non-BETA).
Most companies own't upgrade form 6 because alot of software is not "certified" with 2.7 or 2.8, like Oracle....
What is citrix used for? Well, for one it tries to make the the NT terminal server fast..it uses it's own protocol to highly compress audio and sound (I can get audio and video on a remote Windows conole!), and can even remotely display DirectX....it's just a layer added to Win NT Term Server to make it like a local connection....lime a TRUE X connection in *NIX..however, it costs THOUSANDS of dollars..I got this from my old job (a perf of being laid off :) ).I only access my windows machine thru citrix because I use it SOOOOO rarely and ir's DOWNSTAIRS in the basement :)
I have a curious setup...
I have a small windows PC for experimentation that I run a Citrix Server on...
I have screenshot of the new X11 (WindowMaker)running on Cygwin accessed remotely throught the Linux ICA client on WindowMaker!
Go here: http://cguru.ma.cx/cygwin.png
I use Mozilla on Linux and I got the HOWTO...whats wrong with it?