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QuickTime 6 Is Out
flamingnight writes "If you go to Apple's QuickTime page, you'll notice that QuickTime 6 has been released. No mention of QT 5 anywhere on the site. Features include the long-awaited MPEG-4 support, 50+ input/output formats, and plenty of A/V codecs and video effects (see Apple - QuickTime - Specifications for a full list)." It's available for Mac OS 8/9, Mac OS X 10.1.3+, and Windows 98/2000/NT/Me/XP (does anyone actually use Windows Me?). Just remember that your QuickTime 5 key won't work with QuickTime 6.
Just remember that your QuickTime 5 key won't work with QuickTime 6.
Oh damn... now I'll have to wait until a new key generator is released... err, um, I mean, I'll have to go re-buy it. Yes, off to buy it I go!
DAMN YOU, SORENSON! A pox upon your house, and a pox on Steve Job's house too, for good measure. Wake me up when QT for linux ships.
Does this mean I need to buy another key to get Quicktime 6 to work even if I already bought one for 5?
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Let the file association war continue....
I do, you fat bitch.
It's available for Mac OS 8/9, Mac OS X 10.1.3+, and Windows 98/2000/NT/Me/XP (does anyone actually use Windows Me?). Does anyone actually use OS8?
There are so many different great streaming alternatives to the old-fashioned QuickTime format, why hasn't QuickTime lost it's punch? Maybe it's just the old apple-dedicated trying to support their company. ASF is just too good to go on with QuickTime...
Considering MacWorld begins in less than 48 hours, why release now? I would have thought this would have been the big thing during the keynote along with Jaguar.
Are they trying to one-up the Corona announcement from MS?
does anyone actually use Windows Me?
Yes, I use it as my Windows box. It gets booted every few months, when I either need to test something or I need to get my internet checkers fix. ME is XP without the security flaws, the NT kernel, and the bloat.
There is no reasonable defense against an idiot with an agenda
:wq
Now will someone point me to a decent howto on how to get .mov, .qt or .mpeg/.avi/MPEG4/Divix :-) to play on my kde desktop? I've tried this in the past and all I ever get are tons of headaches and eventually I just give up.
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Nice job Apple (for once.)
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Prepare for the usual download horror story.
It takes 15 tries to get a valid download going and then they may claim all those downloads as actual indipendant users.
Just my imagination of course.
So, does this mean that they have finally worked out a license deal for MPEG-4, and if so, what is it?
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QuickTime is one of the few reasons I reboot under Windows from time to time. Gotta watch that Two Towers trailer... :)
Still can't import an mpeg-2 video. My capture card has a hardware mpeg-2 encoder. Figures... :-(
I use it all the time work. You might know it better as Winbloze Xp.
I tried getting my QuickTime 5 to download the update, but it hadn't heard of it, so I went to the site and am downloading now...So it is out for Windows.
I'm always amazed by Apple removing any reference of previous products from their site the second a new one is released...
They do it with computers all the time, how do they get rid of their current stock? Sell them to VAR's?
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and an odd unfinished area for training. Looks like things are getting together technically before the legislation can smother it.
I really hated when Quicktime would take over .PNGs in Mozilla. Besides the unneeded hand-off, Quicktime's PNG support was incredibly bad and broken.
Crossover plugin seems to still be downloading QT5 installer. Has anyone got QT6 running under crossover?
Evidence that nobody gives a flying fuck about the luser (Linux user) base.
No mention of Linux.
No mention of (Open,Net,Free)BSD.
interesting idea. that's one way to limit the server load.
does anyone actually use Windows Me?
Yes, a whole bunch of people, but they think they are running Windows 2000. I've had to break the bad news to four people so far when I helped them fix their computers. Great MS marketing. Millenium? 2000? whats the difference.
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Can any one say me if he/she can veiw the solaris trailer?
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Has anyone had the same results as well?
This greatly disturbes me. Apple makes the trailers available for free download, yet keeps you from saving the file on your hard drive. I used to save every trailer from every cool movie that's come out in the past few years. Now I can't?!
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Here's how to get rid of the QT nag screens. QT will nag you the first time it's launched each day (or some increment of time). When you choose "Later" it sets a value in the registry to remind you tomorrow.
So, set your clock forward about twenty years (make sure you close any meeting reminder software first) and then launch QT. Tell it "Later" and then set your clock back. Haven't tested this with QT6, but it worked with 5.
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Does anyone know if Quicktime 6 supports AVI and DV files over 2GB? Quicktime 5 cuts off all video beyond the 2GB mark on AVI and DV files.
Yes! The ultimate codec! You have no idea how long I've been looking for one of those.
IWARS.
People, in general, disappoint me. Politicians even more so.
Hm, I can't help but fear that this may have a negative impact on the acceptance of Linux among the all-important college student and single IT worker demographics.
Basically, Linux has caught on with people who, due to constant exposure to Windows, hate Microsoft. These people happen to be largely male, largely affluent, and largely large (ha ha).
These days, if you're going non-Windows, you don't have many choices. Basically, it's down to Linux and Mac. And when these anti-MS geeks choose their OS, they will choose the one of these that best suits their needs. QuickTime 6 will give them the ability to watch their multi-gig porn collections and pirated DIVX files, without all of the messy command line mucking about that is necessary for multimedia under Linux.
As a Linux user, I wish Apple hadn't released this. Or at the very least, that Slashdot (a pro-Linux site) hadn't reported it. *sigh*
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Hmm...looks like they slipped up at least once:
"Crud! Hey, Steve, where did you put that neuralizer we borrowed from Z?"
"Over in that cabinet. It's next to the reality distortion field generator."
only several million people...
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There is no reason to mention *BSD matey. Not only they are not obligated to do so, but the *BSD people are pretty happy about it. They just wanted their code to be reused. I will not build a statue for them, not now, not ever. Apple diserves the statue for making the system user-friendly. Keep this in mind: nobody cares whether your code is hacky or not. History repeats itself all the time.
It is soo stupid. You might think that they would at least correct some of their really obvious botches [Iarchitect.com] from the earlier version(s).
But not Apple.
Everybody knows that we are the evil boys, making noise with deadly toys.
...that wasn't true today I'm afraid.
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Strangely enough, yes. Mac OS 8.6 was BULLETPROOF. I remember running an ALPHA version of ASIP 6.0 on 8.6 for several months without a reboot. I've also had production machines that have gone well over a year 8.6 w/o anything bad happening to them.
Compared to the bloat and (early) instability of OS 9, OS 8.6 made them lean, mean, classic Mac OS machines. Really the only reason not to use that as a reference release would be if you were short on RAM.
Hire a Linux system administrator, systems engineer,
Just in time for the MacWorld Keynote webcast on Wednesday.
but what I want to know:
was Apple able to strong arm the removal of the bullshit MPEG-4 money making scheme that its patent holders initially pressed?
My mommy says that when all the evil monsters go away then we can have quicktime in linux.
kyjello is too damn smooth to make a signature.
except that it crashes every 15min XP crashes every 30.
I have WinMe running some dynamic DNS software, Netscape and telnet once in a while. It does not crash. Again, it does not crash. It's been running for a few weeks, the last time it restarted was when my power went out and my UPS ran out.
By itself, Windows never crashes. It just can't handle running programs!
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...and Quicktime 7, though it would be very unstable, is suspected to exist.
Beta only seems to work for Google. Such a shame.
From the MacOS X "Jaguar" AD:
"UNIX-based core updated with GCC 3 compiler, CUPS printing, POSIX additions and next generation IPv6 and IPSec networking."
It's nice how they use opensource and they give nothing in return... by the way does apple use GCC to build macos x ?
Oh wait, that comment was already written...
But For the longest time I was running 8.5 (*NOT* 8.6, 8.5!) simply becuase I never had to reboot. If it isn't broke, don't fix it! (however when I wanted some more applscript support and usb I had to upgrade to 8.6)
P.S.- not only does that machine still boot into 8.6 and linuxppc, but it also boots into 7.6! Why? I have some old sound apps that only run under it. So be it.
Heck, if I want to use my powermac as a glorified Apple ][gs (running bernie ][ the rescue!) I can do that too! I'm crazy!(plus it also lets me play NEUROMANCER)
In the future, I would want to not be isolated from my friends in the Space Station.
ps. I know you can buy software that will make it work on linux, but you know someone will still post it.
So it can playback and (presumably) encode an MPEG-4 stream. What would be much more insteresting is if they start using MPEG-4 as the "default" codec instead of sorenson (e.g. on apple.com/trailers). That could make life much easier for linux users who want view said trailers.
Simple. Once you do this, you will never have to worry about Quicktime ever when using a KDE desktop on your UNIX system.
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Now that's just what I need, another bloated-crashing constantly-software from Apple! Yeah !
I hope you don't share network drives, etc...
WindowsME had this slight oversight in the security program. You share a drive and all I had to do is guess the first character in your password. I get it right and I am in. but I guess that isn't as bad as XP.
Your right;)
All your media file extensions are controlled by this pig of a program. It wants to rule the world or something.
Ah, nothing like seeing Apple/Akamai stand up to slashdot like noone else can. I had use Internet Explorer instead of Mozilla just so I could see what the download speed was (mozilla doesn't display final speed when download is complete). 10 MB/s (that's Megabytes). Talk about no slashdot effect at all!
What?
It's not as bad because it's nearly impossible to get ME to talk to other machines on the network. I guess they figure you wouldn't put that much effort into sharing stuff with someone you didn't implicitly trust...
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I don't use quicktime myself so I'm wondering if apple has changed their EULA from 5 to 6. Also what sort of DRM quicktime has (if any) bundled along with it. Basically, is the nag window to purchase the pro version the only downside to using quicktime 6? If so perhaps this is now a good alternative to MS mediaplayer.
Please peruse the EULA. We all know what fate befell the poor saps who installed the latest MS Media Player! This could be a big winner if apple can show MS up with a few nice blatant ads in with their system ads. Trouble is, sooner or later they'll have the DRM noose around their necks anyway, if not already.
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Still no linux version, what a shame, and don't point me to that codeweavers junk. Linux users shouldn't have to pay and run it un-native when its free and native for everyone else.
Still no Vorbis support listed in the codecs section!
Would it have been SOOOOO hard to build in a Vorbis decoder from xiph.org's BSD-licensed reference decorder? HUH? WOULD IT?
*sigh*... Oh, well. Perhaps some day they'll give in and build in Vorbis support.
Any Mac-aware types care to guess on if/when this'll happen?
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Why doesn't apple support (export) mpeg-2? Its really $*&% inconvenient not to be able to export to a SVCD ready format, and I thought apple was the media monster...
Thank god for transcode!
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I declare an OS war! Let the fighting begin!
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could you please tell me if they fixed the flickering window? in qt5 it was like the only program that flickered really really badly when any other windows were moved around. i guess cause it didnt use the normal windows widgets? and i think when moving the window around it also flickered. and no i dont have a slow system/videocard.
Three simple letters. That's all I wanted. How long must us iTunes whores be slaves to the mp3 format? Maybe the next iTunes release will support it, but I figure that if it's not in QT, it's not gonna be in iTunes.
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Anyone out there have Final Cut Pro and installed QT6 (without getting a new key)?
I would like to be able to use the free parts of QT6 (Downloading trailers for one), but still be able to use FCP at full QT5Pro strength. If anyone out there has already done this, please post your experience. Thanks in advance!
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Not any more
Yes, it's time once again for file-format(and codec) roulette. Where you install an update to your media player, and wonder, which files that used to not play will play, and which files that used to play will not (as some obscure alpha codec you downloaded last year gets overwritten by it's broken progeny, or removed altogether by the installer looking to "tidy things up").
I swear, with QT 3.0 I could play ANYTHING. Then with 4.0, a bunch of files just wouldn't play anymore, then with 5.0, a bunch more broke, and pretty much every new file coming out was in some bastardized version of DivX that either didn't work at all or had no audio, or had audio but no video, and I downloaded every codex imaginable, DivX, 3ivX, and every media-cleaner program, converter, translator, set of video tools, and nothing fucking fixed it - and nobody could offer a coherent explanation as to why.
So should I install QT 6 - and watch another round of the player helplessly trying to download codecs that aren't there, never were there, and never will be there, while the player shows a white screen? Or should I go back to QT 3.0, where I can simply watch everything. (except the DivX crap).
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In MacOS X videolan (videolan.org) had a problem with QT 6 Preview. Does anyone know if the problem persists with the real version of QT 6 or should I stay with QT 5?
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Yet Another Media Player.
:D
I already have one, I just need codecs.
I aint installing QT just to view quicktime format. Give me a codec and my current player will play it fine
Same for Real Media.
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In other words, why isn't MPEG the industry standard for video playback?
I'm looking to dump Windows Media Player once and for all -- I'll accept whatever version ships with Windows 2000, but I've grown wear of having to worry about EULA updates and security holes in my friggin' video player, of all things. That being said, are there any known evil features in Quicktime 6? Things that Apple has built into it that will affect the way I work, without exception? DRM is the obvious example of this, but any addition info would be welcome...........
But I never thought the quicktime format was all that good anyway....what is SOO hard about making a Linux port if they want the format to be more popular?
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I just bought the unlock license for QT 5 Pro a few weeks ago. I just called a friendly Apple sales rep and asked if there were any opportunities to get a discount on the QT 6 unlock, or a refund on the QT 5 license. She indicated that there were no such opportunities, but that I should check back later. If anyone finds different, let us know.
Quicktime Broadcaster has also been released:
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http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/broadca
When I tried to download the Dutch Windows version of QuickTime 6, I got a QuickTime 5 installer.
Ho hum. Still no Ogg Vorbis support.
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Ok, but keep in mind the story.
...
After all, a story was posted about a great program that doesn't run on the most popular OS around here. I wouldn't expect a run on the bank for that one
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honestly: who cares about another closed source video compression codec, when theres divx ?
beside for production of high quality porn nothing beats a g4 with final cut pro - but sadly thats all posible with this fuckin plattform
Windows ME is what made me switch to Mandrake Linux!!!
The cnet article on the QT6 release also mentions that the MPEG group will be releasing new MPEG4 licensing terms. The main change is that free mpeg4 streams will not be charged. This is great news!
On a related note - I've been trying to figure out how to set up mplayer as the "helper application" for .avi's and .mov's and so on in Konqueror, and the more I try, the stupider I feel.
The "substitution codes" for the command lines aren't well documented (e.g. "%U" for "URL" and "%f" for local file...what are the rest?) and I can't seem to avoid getting "can't find a plugin for ." (no typo - that's what the error box says)...
Playing "by hand" from the command line works fine, I just get lazy occasionally and want to be able to "just click on it and watch it..."...
Anyone got any good pointers to information about setting this kind of thing up?
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Great, another proprietary version of another proprietary set of codecs. What the hell is Apple thinking? Proprietary standards are no way to increase control of a market dominated by M$. If they would base QuickTime entirely on open standards, they might just have a chance at doing their part in weening people away from their competitors. Oh wait a minute. Linux is one of their competitors. Nevermind. (Or they could what's right and become a hardware ONLY company--seeing as how that's the only thing they're really good at.) But that would actually make sense.
Any other non-unix'd mac geeks lurking (and willing to out themselves) having similar troubles?
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Even with QT6, I still can't watch TmD movies. Am I missing something?
Those rips and others always work with avifile.
Oh well.
Programs that are anti-Linux do not belong here.
Who cares about Quick Time - it is a useless
program and a useless file format.
Apple released on the same day MPEG-LA announced licensing fees for MPEG-4 Visual, Systems and MPEG-J patents. Details here.
Windows 2000 works well on low-Mhz machines too, you know: I have a Pentium Pro 200 with 256Meg RAM running it just fine. It's all about the memory, so add some (it's cheap) and get rid of ME.
I wouldn't even dare to run XP on my biggest machine which is a P-III 800Mhz with 786Meg RAM. It feels even sluggish on the Athlon 1.6GHz PC a friend of mine showed me (granted, only had 256Meg RAM..still wonder how such a CPU can be sold with so few RAM)
Before I get flamed to death for promoting Microsoft OSes, note that most computers I talk about are for family use and I would get lynched if suddenly my siblings cannot play their favourite games anymore. Only 4 out of 7 computers here run Windows 2000, so I think that's not a bad ratio. (Plus, I'm working on changing to Debian on the P-III)
Besides, what weird NIC makes problems with 98SE? Did you try to download the latest drivers from the manufacturer. Always works for me. Or give it a try at driverguide (Username: drivers, Password: all)
As you see, it's just a matter of choosing the right OS for the right hardware. Hey, a few months ago I installed Windows 95 OSR2 on a old P90 with 24Meg RAM...that's okay for the old lady that just want to email her grandkids and play a bridge game.
I only know one person that runs Windows ME, and she complains all the time about her computer. I already told her I would reinstall her machine with something decent, but she doesn't want to hear about it. Her loss.
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Actually, quicktime seems to work quite well on linux via, for example, mplayer, with the sole exception that I've run into of SVQ3 (Sorenson, of course). SVQ1 is even working now, with optimized code (also appearing in FFMPEG) based on the reverse engineering done by the folks working on Xine. Oddly enough, the specifications page for QT6 mentiones SVQ2 and SVQ3, but implies that it DOESN'T support SVQ1...
If the release of QT6 means that MPEG4 will become the "default" codec for QuickTime movies as time goes on (as some posts, As well as several of the QuickTime pages at Apple, are hinting), the "quicktime barrier" to video on linux will all but disappear, since as far as I can tell just about every variant of MPEG4 works on Linux in some form or another. I suppose this depends on how the dispute between Apple and Sorenson goes...(anybody heard anything about that lately?) and how long it takes someone to work out how to interpret the type of what I assume are "pointer files" or something of the sort on the previously mentioned apple Quicktime Mpeg4 page (mplayer seems to have trouble decoding them...)
Of course, somewhere in here I should insert the obligatory comment about Ogg Theora and how I wish they'd hurry up and get the mailing lists working and get a working prototype that I can test, but as I can't think of what to say, I won't....
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Finally someone making the right question. The Public Preview (which was the same as the final version except for the licensing) was out weeks ago. They were only working out on the licensing issues.
"Besides playing MPEG-4 and MP3 content, QuickTime supports timecode tracks as well as MIDI standards such as the Roland Sound Canvas and GS format extensions. QuickTime also supports key standards for web streaming, including HTTP, RTP and RTSP. Plus, QuickTime supports every major file format for images, including JPEG, BMP, PICT, PNG and GIF. QuickTime also features built-in support for digital video, including the DV camcorder formats, as well as support for AVI, AVR, MPEG-1, H.263 and OpenDML."
But if you drop twenty MP3 files on a quicktime window, it opens twentty instances of the player, instead of queueing them up to be played.
That is insane.
Has no one said to Apple that they have to have a PLAYLIST EDITOR with Quicktime?
Amazingly, you can use a playlist made by another application with Quicktime, but it cannot make and organize them itself. And that pathetic "favorites" thing is just that; a pathetic thing.
When you open the file dialog, you cannot select more than one file at a time to be played. And when you do open one, it opens in another instance by default.
And for all of that boasting about being able to open 200 file formats, saying file> presents you with "new player" or "open movie". When you open a file, movie or not, it opens in a new player (by default), so the "open new player" is.
For all this, Quicktime sounds better than Freeamp and Winamp to my ears; I would use it all the time if it had a sensible playlist. Yes yes I know "Go get OSX / Itunes". It's on my list.
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I'm definitely not upgrading to QT 6 Pro, since I just got QT 5 Pro before the announcement of 6 Pro.
Thanks to MPEG4IP MPEG-4 streaming capabilities, from an encoded MPEG-4 file (it has a converter, that can take XviD encoded AVIs and output .mp4), or live Video4Linux encoding. If only they could get rid of the patenting issues completely...
"... Updated User Interface"
Considering that the QuickTime UI got a place in the User Interface Hall of Shame the old-fashioned way (it *earned* it), any change in the UI is likely to be an improvement.
... heard of editing video on their computer, specially digital video. Duh!
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Don't forget that the standalone installer for QT 6 is at:d alone
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/stan
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Gee tops... I just downloaded it (WinXP) and still found:
.mov file... I make MPEGs or Divx... :)
* It still puts an icon on the desktop and quicklaunch bar without asking
* It now puts a system tray icon also without asking, did it use to do that?
* It still always starts up with the damn 'Register now' dialog. Don't they make enough money via making it one of the standards out there and virtually forcing any company serious about video on the web to purchase QTPro in order to create compatible video? (I have no problem with that as a way of making money, I completely agree that if you're creating content for the web using their system, then, yup, pay for it, their prices are reasonable... but surely I shouldn't be bugged about the fact that this product exists when I have no desire to ever create a
* Still can't play fullscreen unless you pay for it
* I still don't see why it's so damn loved... as cludgy as the interface of WMP is, at least I can easily create playlists by dragging my files into the player, can always play fullscreen and I don't have to put up with any 'register now' pretty please' dialogues.
Of course I _have_ to have QT on my system if I want to watch all the latest movie trailers in nice quality, but their software isn't nice, it's intrusive, and I don't like that.
(Of course it has nothing on Realplayer... man I dislike that!)
The Apple site lists AVIs as a supported format. But that's not very specific, is it? Are the Indeo 3/4/5 codecs supported in OS X now? I'm still running 9.2, because of the superior multimedia support, and more attractive font smoothing.
(does anyone actually use Windows Me?).
Came on my laptop, a ToeCheezba Satellite, runs tolerably well, and is absolutely not worth the aggravation to upgrade.
I'd sooner invest in a dot com than try to install my RH7.2 distro on here.
Since you asked.
Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
I just downloaded and reintsalled 5.0.2 this morning!
*Finally* an industry standard for streaming. This means the end of the Sorenson codec that has caused so many aches to Linux users.
d _t op
Real and Apple have commited to MPEG-4, the specification is open and there is no implementation fee (only a fee for non-free streams, ie free streams are not charged!)
http://news.com.com/2100-1023-943990.html?tag=f
This means that the new LOTR trailer and all future trailers can be viewed w/o proprietary codecs. Now all we need is for someone to deliver a MPEG-4 codec for Linux. I would help writing one, but I have no prior video experience.
We need to rally behind MPEG-4 and bring it to our platform. Else we'll see Microsoft stealing the market with a DRM based proprietary WMP codecs!!
Is there anyone working on MPEG-4 codecs for Linux besides these guys ?
My 5 key worked in the Beta 6 to get to MPEG4. Made a few MPEG4 sound and videos. The sound is very good quality and low size. I use MP3s at 196K and got better quality with the MPEG4 at 128k! Will try to get full 6 and see if the 6 beta pro is lost.
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why buy quicktime pro when you are just viewing movies? That is the most annoying nag screen ever! first it takes two minutes to load quicktime then shows me that shit!!
iMovie kept crashing on me randomly, though I think it was tied to certain plugins, not sure. The game Black and White wouldn't even start up at all with QT6 Public Preview.
After rolling back to Quicktime 5 I was a happy camper again.
Gah, and no Mpeg2 support still. Everyone knows all the good pr0n is mpeg2. ;)
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Even Real made a version of Realplayer for Linux.
Yeah, this is exactly why I won't be replacing any of my open OSes with MacOS X: they want to be in Microsoft's shoes.
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This may be a dumb question (because since I run Linux and I own an old fashioned TV, and I love to go to movies in old fashioned multiplex's I have never really been into online video.) But if I were to run into some movie files online..and it wasn't advertised what codecs they required (or what version of what codec), how would I determine what codec (or what version of said codec) I needed to be able to partake of the wonder in front of me? It has always seemed pretty confusing to me. At least with audio if the extension is .mp3 I could be confident that 99% of players that advertised themselves as mp3 players would do the trick.
(+1 Funny) only if I laugh out loud.
I wounder how 6 is working out on the darkside.
Because some of us cherish what limited memory we have?
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If you use VLC to read .avi's and sundry .mpg's, don't upgrade to QT6! Especially if you are on a G3! QT6 hoses this program so badly it will only just barely work in "Thousands" color-mode on a G4. It is useless on a G3.
You have been warned.
I have a box (P3-500/768mb RAM) whose sole mission in life is to test stuff. It's had WinME on it for almost 2 years. Out of the box ME was a mess -- couldn't do anything without a crash. But!! I turned off Restore, I ran 98Lite in default mode, and I forced a DOS boot via the MFD patch. (And I make a point of quitting and restarting if I accidentally run the "new" help engine, because it WILL cause a crash, usually about 15 minutes later.) Since being beaten into submission, WinME has not crashed ONCE, even tho it's also the test box for hordes of ill-behaved applications of every description. (Tho WinME still has terrible resource management, which limits multitasking to no more than two apps, and it slows down to unusable after about 4 hours of real work, apparently due to piss-poor swapfile management. Gotta try it with the swapfile disabled, like I run Win98 on an identical system.)
... and the biggest reason of all: I install ZERO M$ software other than Windows itself. M$'s own apps are Windows' worst enemy. (Did you know that OfficeXP overrides WinXP's system DLL protection??)
.. um, CNet, I think. (Over 30% negatives, mostly from clueful people who reported problems in great detail.) So... I'm looking for an alternative to QT (preferably free) that can play these newfangled AVIs that insist they need QT5. Any suggestions?
But... *none* of my WinBoxen crash
Now, that said... I also don't install stuff that gets such horrible user reviews as QT5 did over on
~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
butter when watching streams the interfeace is clean and elegant. Man I love this computer company.
I wonder if history will remember that it was Apple (part of the patent group) that fought the proposal to charge a fee to the end user for every second of every stream viewed? And won.
Thank-you Apple. Really.
Apple is now allowing downloads without entering an email address. They explicitly set the email address field off in a seperate box from the OS choice. The "Download" button is centered below both of them and can clearly be used with the email field empty. And the email field is under the heading "Subscribe to Newsletters". Very nice. How's that for privacy ? The two subscriptions checkboxes are even off by default.
The EULA is standard boilerplate for Apple. It has all their usual media, disclaimer of warranty and tranfer of license clauses (You are permitted to sell your used Apple software). They also disclaim any responsibility for third-party websites. Lastly, they note that the MPEG-2 components are licensed solely for consumer use and not for " ENCODING VIDEO INFORMATION FOR PACKAGED MEDIA" (whatever packaged media really means), and then gives contact info for MPEG LA, LLC for other licensing arrangements (no URL). The Pro EULA may differ.
Not bad. It says absolutely nothing about user created content. Since the free version doesn't allow much creation, the Pro version may again have a different license.
Text of EULA follows.
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When did Slashdot get so marginal? How can anyone not realize that the number of Win ME users dwarfs the number of Linux users?
I use Win ME, it came with the 2.2 gig comp, kinda hard to argue with, and the Apple programs on any windows system gets down right annoying
MOD THAT GUY UP:
Informative, underrated.
I was a bit annoyed by QT6 since it couldn't read my DivX files anymore, now it can.
You can't take the sky from me...
> Features include the long-awaited MPEG-4 support, 50+ input/output formats, and plenty of A/V codecs and video effects
How about the long awaiting checkbox that allows you to turn off the stupid "Upgrade to QuickTime Pro?" popup at startup?
For all the QT6 delays Apple caused by refusing to pay MPEG-4 license fees, you'd think they'd include open formats like Ogg Vorbis and VP3 as a bit of a retort. Why'd they exclude them?
(does anyone actually use Windows Me?)
I do. The CD makes an exellent coaster to keep those nasty water marks off my desk. AOL disks also work. just be sure to scuff the shiny side to prevent anyone from accidently loading that shit onto a computer.
When all else fails, run.
I swear these are my own words, or perhaps from MacCentral
The news that many streaming QuickTime providers have been waiting for is the thresholds that MPEG LA would allow. If your business has 50,000 subscribers or less, you do not have to pay MPEG LA any money for licensing fees. Once you reach 50,001 your company will have to start paying fees to the organization, but the first 50,000 remain free.
MPEG LA has capped the amount streaming content providers will have to pay at $1 million. Content providers have three options available to them to pay for the MPEG-4 license: a flat fee of $1 million for companies that know they will reach the cap in a year; $0.25 per user, per year after the threshold has been reached; or $0.02 per hour, per stream after the threshold has been reached. The latter two also have a $1million cap and the first 50,000 subscribers remain free.
With the release of QuickTime 6 today, Apple didn't rule out the possibility that Wednesday's Macworld keynote would be streamed in MPEG-4. If you don't have QuickTime 6 on your computer, the stream will still work -- in a non MPEG-4 format -- with QuickTime 5.
here. My windows 2k needed to be reinstalled, and it wasn't easy finding the download, so I thought I'd post it.
I just downloaded and installed QT6 on Win2k. Lousy performance playing AVI and MPG. Probably works better with Apple's proprietary format. It's hard to beat MS mediaplayer 6. I've also had good luck with the player that came bundled with my ATI Radeon.
http://qtcomponents.sf.net/
http://www.vp3.com/vp3/quicktime/index.shtml
Well done. Very neatly conquered.
Apple's mods work their way into gcc, freebsd, lib changes to netbsd etc.
mpeg-4's container is a ripoff of the qt container format.
quicktime isn't proprietary either, if it was apple wouldn't publish api specs for it. "quicktime is proprietary" is another moron linux user bs line which you gullible idiots parrot ad infinitum.
It's a pity that Apple can't hire two guys with long beard that can port the code to a Linux platform. Using the crossover plugin/wrapper is not satisfactory. I really have hard time getting over that quicktime is that widespread that it is. If I would produce a movieclip I would make it in such format that is true cross platform, i.e mpeg so every soul with a computer could watch it. But that's just me, why would anyone care?
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Free (beer&speech) Live Streaming has been available for years already, in the form of Apple's Darwin Streaming Server. MPEG4, MP3, QuickTime streaming, live streaming, you name it.
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Set your current year to 2099. Run QuickTime. Watch the uncaught Integer Overflow exception!
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It's the awful truth.
And QT still can't handled PCX. Argh!
You can still get it here
Lose the die_spammer_die for email
Has it been thirty days or less? If so, then you should dig as there is normally a thirty day policy of either rebate or upgrade keys.
... that's your problem. QT6 has been in preview and "ready to ship" for a while.
Call Apple directly and be insistant.
If it's been more than thirty days
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Wow what a deal! That's less than a dollar per feature! That's so "kewl". Ok all 18-34 Slashdotters, let's all move to Mac! (C)2002 Apple Marketing Division
MPEG-2 available here as a separate install and charge. Why it's extra I dunno, but it is in fact available.
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