Sun tried to jack up the prices on IBM from what I heard/remember about the whole fiasco.
As an IBMer and much longer Linux lover I wouldn't be working for the company if I didn't see anything but good intentions. I believe that IBM honestly believes in Linux. Not just that it will do well, but that its the best solution up and coming. I won't tell you to trust them/us. Do what you like. But I say I trust them. Their support for Linux is great for the community if you ask me.
IBM promised to bring more and more stuff to Linux..And they are doing it
In this article at ZDNET, they talk about how IBM is releasing their Small Business Pack for Linux. They are trying to port more and more over to Linux. A lot of people don't seem to give them credit. I support this outright...and hope they release more stuff under a more flexible license like the GPL. I think that every corporation can see the light eventually. Here's to hoping.
I called my uncle who is a lawyer in my area to ask him about this one once. My question was concerning a failed drug test tht my friend had. He failed it due to incomplete results. Basically..what he found out later is that the company lost his sample and could not finish testing. He started his job one month late because of this. (While he had to wait for the next training courses) My uncle said for me to tell my friend just to have a lawyer call them and they will settle. They paid 3/4 of one month salary + lawyer fees for him in the settlement.
I'd tell your friend just to threaten a lawsuit for loss of wages and grief caused by misinformation. They will never win it and probably will just settle.
My real problem with the hoopla of too many distros is bigger companies complaining about the lack of standards. People complain about companies like the one I work for or whoever only supporting selected few distributions...well...if every distribution wasn't so different it would be an issue. This doesn't bother me...its actually something I like. I like the fact that no one person's machine is like mine. But the more distributions there are trying to make themselves look unique the less they adhere to certain standards which have developed. Hell..what am I talking about. There aren't any standards.;-) And here is the beauty of that..
The great thing is that those standards aren't as important if the software is open source. So maybe this lack of standardization is helping bring more companies to look into open sourcing their products...which in turn converts them (because they'd see the obvious beauty in open source immediately if they have half a brain)..Wow...what a thought..more distros bring more variety...more variety brings less standards...less standards help people to see the light!
So come on SCO...anyone else want to start a distribution? This is GREAT! I welcome them all!
This is the article I think you are talking about. I think you are talking about the electronic states in magnetic nanostructures, which would have been in that research article. If not, sorry for the mistake. Its an interesting article nonetheless.
That was a dumb way to put it...but what I meant is the recent Linux movement in big corporations. Had to clarify..the way I said it sounded really bad.
Marketing done by IBM is a weird thing. I have no clue what you do or where you do it...but IBM doesn't go much for bragging rights on this kind of stuff. Its more like...let's sell it to the people who use our products and optimize our products for it. I will say this for IBM...as a Big Blue employee but a much longer Linux lover...IBM is really going with this Linux thing. I almost feel as if it being pushed more than AIX. Course..being the Linux guy in my area...I see more of Linux than anything.
So heck...if they are bringing this to their big buyers and saying..."Use AIX or Linux"..AWESOME! At least they give the option.
Ya know...my slashdot time (kinda like "Internet time" but only based on posts, polls, slashbacks, and geeks in space epsiodes...was all messed up due to that. stop that!
I mean...come on...do i not have the freedom to say anything anymore? Will someone enlighten these companies that this stuff makes me want to not buy their products. How does this make your products better if you don't know what people think of them. How bad are your products if you have to protect yourself from being spoken about negatively? Will someone get a clue.
Imagine if M$ did this. By calling them "Micro$loth" you'd violate: "4.You are not allowed to vary the spelling, add or delete hyphens (even for normal hyphenation at the end of a line of text), make one word two, or use a possessive or plural form of the Marks.
5.You may not use the Marks in a derogatory or defamatory manner, or in any negative context. Such us will terminate your license to use the Marks."
"7.You may not use the Marks in a manner that is likely to cause confusion with, dilute or damage the reputation or image of Apogee or any of its products."
With one lil Micro$loth comment. Hell...whats even funnier is if I didn't know how to spell Apogee(r) and spell it "Apo-gee" I violate number four.
This world is getting stupider.
The stuff in the quotes comes right off the Apogee link.
I know at places I have worked that many of our powerful computing systems have seti@home running. I know of a Sun Enterprise 450 that gets great stats.:)
I tried to use Flashcom for a job I was doing. It took them 6.5 months and no connection. So the people got pissed at me and dropped my contract. Flashcom is the problem. here is what they did in my area. Flashcom orders its dsl through northpoint. Northpoint hires out Bell Atlantic to do all the wiring and equip. Which then means you can get Bell Atlantic DSL (*HOW COOL IS THAT...this is the way to go*). Then...they hired some other contractor to come out and hand me an IP address. So really...all flashcom is is a billing agent. Their tech support people are morons. And...don't tell them you are using a not M$ product...or that's their excuse. If you work for flashcom and are reading this...sorry. But your company sucks!
So if you are in Pittsburgh at least...order Flashcom and they will screw you over...but eventually they will have Bell Atlantic put in the equip for you so you can switch to their service
Riddle me this. Why do I not post anomously if I am so wrong? Thats my real email address and real web page.
All I am saying is that if a company puts money into a program and wants compensation for it...then if you want to use that...you should properly compensate them...give them what they deserve...not what you are bound to give them. Its not what is morally or legally right necessarily...its more...a matter of respect..Some people never paid for shareware either...yet they'd probably bitch if the program didn't work right...you see? its respect for the authors' wishes...and if they want me to pay for their product AND I like it and can't find an alternative..I respect them enough to pay for it..the only person I disrespect is your mother for raising such a ignorant coward who would make such dumb comments and hide. Legality was the question. Should we be illegal about this? Depends how you feel about being illegal...to each his own. Should we disrespect another person? Well...maybe thats how you were raised...but not me.
I definitely don't disagree. I guess I skimmed what you said too lightly. I apologize. I was very impressed with how much he went into the specific files instead of the gui things though.
What I meant was that I want to stress that this was not totally a Redhat specific course...and what I mean by that is not that we delved into the other ways things are done....but you don't have to be a redhat guru to take this. I myself use Debian as well as redhat at home and SuSE and Redhat in the workplace. And I can honestly say that if I knew jack about Redhat specific stuff I still could have passed...just from the knowledge of the other distros and linux in general.
And I also wanted to stress that compared to any formal training I have ever had...Randy would rank in the top 3. He knew his stuff..could answer questions...and expanded on everything. It wasn't as if he was reading a script like some courses.
a & b) Laws are supposedly made to support the masses. Perhaps those complaining of injustice aren't vocal enough in the right channels. Laws are/should be changed if that is what is best for the general public.
c)Speeding does not deprive any deserving individuials of compensation for their work. Piracy of someone elses work deprives them of what they deserve. If you say they don't deserve it...then don't use it.
Free as in beer or speech? your choice. I choose speech.
Working within the realms of the law is as important as anything. The moment you become a criminal you taint your appearance to outsiders. The general public does not listen to the ramblings of criminals...no matter how great your ideas may be. Like it or not as Open Source advocates we are forced to work within the realms of the laws. Those are the laws that protect us...and our freedom. We are free to do a lot of things. Pirating is illegal. if you want to use software or music that people want you to pay for...then you have to pay for it. That is how they make a living. If you don't like it...write the software or music yourself.
Just because I support Open Source software, does not mean I take everything as free and noone can/should make money for it. At least not for me. That is borderline socialism. I don't think people shouldn't make money for their hard work.
As for music...the honest only time I have ever done much MP3 stuff is to preview music and see if I like it enough to support the author by buying his/her album. Same reason i download evaluations of software before I buy it. This is why, for me, Napster is alright. And this is why I believe it should be legal. But..if everyone took it like I did...I don't think we'd be having these problems right now.
First of all.. Two weeks ago, I wrote a long winded review for/. and they declined it.
I must say I full heartedly agree with this guy. Except I must say as a guy who has been through training courses from Sun Microsystems and from IBM (my current employer) that my teacher was excellent. I had a gentleman at redhat named Randy Russel who knew his stuff...at least a good bit more than me. Even better...he knew how to teach. The course was good..although I didn't learn a ton. but without the course as a review of everything I am not sure I would have done as well on the test. And their helpful hints on troubleshooting were excellent...and things I necessarily haven't done in depth.
The other thing I didn't agree with is the RedHat Specificness. Although it was obviously a bit specific...my instructor pointed out the "other" traditional ways to do it...and many times stated a preference to editing files rather than gui tools. the only real redhat specific thing they did was there was no telling you how to build non-rpms....but hey...you have to expect some redhat specificity.
I do agree with this as well. DO NOT BUY THE STUDY GUIDE IF YOU ARE TAKING THE COURSE. There is no need. They are dumb.
The cert ws worth it...it wasn't easy (for the general public) and it will weed out those who do not have linux experience...but for those of us like myself who have been using it exclusively for 2+ yrs...(myself around 6)...it was easy.
I just wanted to say I didn't use the palm looking model...it was the flip top model with the lil keyboard and all... So I apologize since my comments may not be as relevant
My girlfriend has a journada (she is a pharmaceutical sales rep...and thats what they give them for signatures and whatnot...)...
From what I have heard/seen....those thing have a ways to go...there were a lot of problems when her company tried to transition to them and those things are horribly undurable for being so transportable. I have droppped my palm down 11 concrete stairs (not on purpose I assure you) and not a problem. Hers fell off her bed on to the carpetted floor (while it was closed) and was busted.
Forget about durability...and the thing is still a lil pos. I guess I just have too big of hands...and too unsteady of hands..but the thing was hard to do anything on and hard to see. portability can only go so far...when it becomes eye straint to use it...forget it. if all her company wants is signatures that thing would be great...but they expect her to use it as a call tracker too...what a pain in the ass. I say give her a palm device and a laptop. Usability and portability can only go so far...until the monitors inside eyeglasses and stuff like that come more prevalent.
Intel makes Celeron to compete with AMD K6. AMD makes Duron to compete with Celeron. Intel makes Emeron to compete with Duron. AMD makes Furon to compete with Emeron.
for (int i=1; i>0; i++){ compete(INTEL, AMD_LATEST_CHIP); compete(AMD, INTEL_LATEST_CHIP); compete(Microsoft, COW_DUNG);//Can they ever win this one? }
ya know..as a guy who has been using Linux for quite some time...I remember back when StarWriter only had that damn german dictionary..and was real buggy for Linux..WordPerfect moving to Linux was one of the things that really helped give Linux a boost in my mind. Then they announced their plans for a distribution. I believe that initially Corel's support of Linux was one of the driving forces behind the recent growth of Linux. I am not saying it was THE driving force...and I will grant that companies like Netscape definitely were more important...but I will be one who would thank Corel for their support..even if it was because of their anti-MS mindset. Like it or not...they helped the Linux movement..and now they may be sunk.
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Thanks! ;-) (Just wanted to let you know that an IBMer was reading)
Sun tried to jack up the prices on IBM from what I heard/remember about the whole fiasco.
As an IBMer and much longer Linux lover I wouldn't be working for the company if I didn't see anything but good intentions. I believe that IBM honestly believes in Linux. Not just that it will do well, but that its the best solution up and coming. I won't tell you to trust them/us. Do what you like. But I say I trust them. Their support for Linux is great for the community if you ask me.
IBM promised to bring more and more stuff to Linux..And they are doing it
In this article at ZDNET, they talk about how IBM is releasing their Small Business Pack for Linux. They are trying to port more and more over to Linux. A lot of people don't seem to give them credit. I support this outright...and hope they release more stuff under a more flexible license like the GPL. I think that every corporation can see the light eventually. Here's to hoping.
I called my uncle who is a lawyer in my area to ask him about this one once. My question was concerning a failed drug test tht my friend had. He failed it due to incomplete results. Basically..what he found out later is that the company lost his sample and could not finish testing. He started his job one month late because of this. (While he had to wait for the next training courses) My uncle said for me to tell my friend just to have a lawyer call them and they will settle. They paid 3/4 of one month salary + lawyer fees for him in the settlement.
I'd tell your friend just to threaten a lawsuit for loss of wages and grief caused by misinformation. They will never win it and probably will just settle.
My real problem with the hoopla of too many distros is bigger companies complaining about the lack of standards. People complain about companies like the one I work for or whoever only supporting selected few distributions...well...if every distribution wasn't so different it would be an issue. This doesn't bother me...its actually something I like. I like the fact that no one person's machine is like mine. But the more distributions there are trying to make themselves look unique the less they adhere to certain standards which have developed. Hell..what am I talking about. There aren't any standards. ;-) And here is the beauty of that..
The great thing is that those standards aren't as important if the software is open source. So maybe this lack of standardization is helping bring more companies to look into open sourcing their products...which in turn converts them (because they'd see the obvious beauty in open source immediately if they have half a brain)..Wow...what a thought..more distros bring more variety...more variety brings less standards...less standards help people to see the light!
So come on SCO...anyone else want to start a distribution? This is GREAT! I welcome them all!
This is the article I think you are talking about. I think you are talking about the electronic states in magnetic nanostructures, which would have been in that research article. If not, sorry for the mistake. Its an interesting article nonetheless.
That was a dumb way to put it...but what I meant is the recent Linux movement in big corporations. Had to clarify..the way I said it sounded really bad.
Marketing done by IBM is a weird thing. I have no clue what you do or where you do it...but IBM doesn't go much for bragging rights on this kind of stuff. Its more like...let's sell it to the people who use our products and optimize our products for it. I will say this for IBM...as a Big Blue employee but a much longer Linux lover...IBM is really going with this Linux thing. I almost feel as if it being pushed more than AIX. Course..being the Linux guy in my area...I see more of Linux than anything.
So heck...if they are bringing this to their big buyers and saying..."Use AIX or Linux"..AWESOME! At least they give the option.
My favorite quote is in this washington post article where it says...when talking about one of the orders
"The company contends that [this will] harm the product's reputation when it breaks down."
Could M$ OSes break down more?
Maybe even Rob, Jeff, and the others will read this book and stop doing Pepsi promos on Geeks in Space. Pepsi sucks! ;-)
Should have been ATTBUSINESS.NET. Duh! ;-)
Ya know...my slashdot time (kinda like "Internet time" but only based on posts, polls, slashbacks, and geeks in space epsiodes...was all messed up due to that. stop that!
I mean...come on...do i not have the freedom to say anything anymore? Will someone enlighten these companies that this stuff makes me want to not buy their products. How does this make your products better if you don't know what people think of them. How bad are your products if you have to protect yourself from being spoken about negatively? Will someone get a clue.
Imagine if M$ did this. By calling them "Micro$loth" you'd violate:
"4.You are not allowed to vary the spelling, add or delete hyphens (even for normal hyphenation at the end of a line of text), make one word two, or use a possessive or plural form of the Marks.
5.You may not use the Marks in a derogatory or defamatory manner, or in any negative context. Such us will terminate your license to use the Marks."
"7.You may not use the Marks in a manner that is likely to cause confusion with, dilute or damage the reputation or image of Apogee or any of its products."
With one lil Micro$loth comment. Hell...whats even funnier is if I didn't know how to spell Apogee(r) and spell it "Apo-gee" I violate number four.
This world is getting stupider.
The stuff in the quotes comes right off the Apogee link.
I know at places I have worked that many of our powerful computing systems have seti@home running. I know of a Sun Enterprise 450 that gets great stats. :)
I tried to use Flashcom for a job I was doing. It took them 6.5 months and no connection. So the people got pissed at me and dropped my contract. Flashcom is the problem. here is what they did in my area. Flashcom orders its dsl through northpoint. Northpoint hires out Bell Atlantic to do all the wiring and equip. Which then means you can get Bell Atlantic DSL (*HOW COOL IS THAT...this is the way to go*). Then...they hired some other contractor to come out and hand me an IP address. So really...all flashcom is is a billing agent. Their tech support people are morons. And...don't tell them you are using a not M$ product...or that's their excuse. If you work for flashcom and are reading this...sorry. But your company sucks!
So if you are in Pittsburgh at least...order Flashcom and they will screw you over...but eventually they will have Bell Atlantic put in the equip for you so you can switch to their service
Riddle me this. Why do I not post anomously if I am so wrong? Thats my real email address and real web page.
All I am saying is that if a company puts money into a program and wants compensation for it...then if you want to use that...you should properly compensate them...give them what they deserve...not what you are bound to give them. Its not what is morally or legally right necessarily...its more...a matter of respect..Some people never paid for shareware either...yet they'd probably bitch if the program didn't work right...you see? its respect for the authors' wishes...and if they want me to pay for their product AND I like it and can't find an alternative..I respect them enough to pay for it..the only person I disrespect is your mother for raising such a ignorant coward who would make such dumb comments and hide. Legality was the question. Should we be illegal about this? Depends how you feel about being illegal...to each his own. Should we disrespect another person? Well...maybe thats how you were raised...but not me.
I definitely don't disagree. I guess I skimmed what you said too lightly. I apologize. I was very impressed with how much he went into the specific files instead of the gui things though.
What I meant was that I want to stress that this was not totally a Redhat specific course...and what I mean by that is not that we delved into the other ways things are done....but you don't have to be a redhat guru to take this. I myself use Debian as well as redhat at home and SuSE and Redhat in the workplace. And I can honestly say that if I knew jack about Redhat specific stuff I still could have passed...just from the knowledge of the other distros and linux in general.
And I also wanted to stress that compared to any formal training I have ever had...Randy would rank in the top 3. He knew his stuff..could answer questions...and expanded on everything. It wasn't as if he was reading a script like some courses.
a & b) Laws are supposedly made to support the masses. Perhaps those complaining of injustice aren't vocal enough in the right channels. Laws are/should be changed if that is what is best for the general public.
c)Speeding does not deprive any deserving individuials of compensation for their work. Piracy of someone elses work deprives them of what they deserve. If you say they don't deserve it...then don't use it.
Free as in beer or speech? your choice. I choose speech.
Working within the realms of the law is as important as anything. The moment you become a criminal you taint your appearance to outsiders. The general public does not listen to the ramblings of criminals...no matter how great your ideas may be. Like it or not as Open Source advocates we are forced to work within the realms of the laws. Those are the laws that protect us...and our freedom. We are free to do a lot of things. Pirating is illegal. if you want to use software or music that people want you to pay for...then you have to pay for it. That is how they make a living. If you don't like it...write the software or music yourself.
Just because I support Open Source software, does not mean I take everything as free and noone can/should make money for it. At least not for me. That is borderline socialism. I don't think people shouldn't make money for their hard work.
As for music...the honest only time I have ever done much MP3 stuff is to preview music and see if I like it enough to support the author by buying his/her album. Same reason i download evaluations of software before I buy it. This is why, for me, Napster is alright. And this is why I believe it should be legal. But..if everyone took it like I did...I don't think we'd be having these problems right now.
that's my $.02
First of all.. Two weeks ago, I wrote a long winded review for /. and they declined it.
I must say I full heartedly agree with this guy. Except I must say as a guy who has been through training courses from Sun Microsystems and from IBM (my current employer) that my teacher was excellent. I had a gentleman at redhat named Randy Russel who knew his stuff...at least a good bit more than me. Even better...he knew how to teach. The course was good..although I didn't learn a ton. but without the course as a review of everything I am not sure I would have done as well on the test. And their helpful hints on troubleshooting were excellent...and things I necessarily haven't done in depth.
The other thing I didn't agree with is the RedHat Specificness. Although it was obviously a bit specific...my instructor pointed out the "other" traditional ways to do it...and many times stated a preference to editing files rather than gui tools. the only real redhat specific thing they did was there was no telling you how to build non-rpms....but hey...you have to expect some redhat specificity.
I do agree with this as well. DO NOT BUY THE STUDY GUIDE IF YOU ARE TAKING THE COURSE. There is no need. They are dumb.
The cert ws worth it...it wasn't easy (for the general public) and it will weed out those who do not have linux experience...but for those of us like myself who have been using it exclusively for 2+ yrs...(myself around 6)...it was easy.
I just wanted to say I didn't use the palm looking model...it was the flip top model with the lil keyboard and all...
So I apologize since my comments may not be as relevant
My girlfriend has a journada (she is a pharmaceutical sales rep...and thats what they give them for signatures and whatnot...)...
From what I have heard/seen....those thing have a ways to go...there were a lot of problems when her company tried to transition to them and those things are horribly undurable for being so transportable. I have droppped my palm down 11 concrete stairs (not on purpose I assure you) and not a problem. Hers fell off her bed on to the carpetted floor (while it was closed) and was busted.
Forget about durability...and the thing is still a lil pos. I guess I just have too big of hands...and too unsteady of hands..but the thing was hard to do anything on and hard to see. portability can only go so far...when it becomes eye straint to use it...forget it. if all her company wants is signatures that thing would be great...but they expect her to use it as a call tracker too...what a pain in the ass. I say give her a palm device and a laptop. Usability and portability can only go so far...until the monitors inside eyeglasses and stuff like that come more prevalent.
Good point...my fault..i wasn't thinking. too much of that crack stuff.
Intel makes Celeron to compete with AMD K6. AMD makes Duron to compete with Celeron. Intel makes Emeron to compete with Duron. AMD makes Furon to compete with Emeron.
//Can they ever win this one?
for (int i=1; i>0; i++){
compete(INTEL, AMD_LATEST_CHIP);
compete(AMD, INTEL_LATEST_CHIP);
compete(Microsoft, COW_DUNG);
}
God I love endless loops.
ya know..as a guy who has been using Linux for quite some time...I remember back when StarWriter only had that damn german dictionary..and was real buggy for Linux..WordPerfect moving to Linux was one of the things that really helped give Linux a boost in my mind. Then they announced their plans for a distribution. I believe that initially Corel's support of Linux was one of the driving forces behind the recent growth of Linux. I am not saying it was THE driving force...and I will grant that companies like Netscape definitely were more important...but I will be one who would thank Corel for their support..even if it was because of their anti-MS mindset. Like it or not...they helped the Linux movement..and now they may be sunk.
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