Ya know...I don't actually have a windows partition...hence the reason I only named Quake and UT. But I will say that with my glide drivers my Voodoo3 card works pretty damn spiffy. hey...and any game that has Tux on the back (check out the back of any UT box) is damn cool with me.
Getting back to your M$ babble..I thought Win2k had no DirectX now and none planned in the future....But I am no Mindsweeper Champion and Solitaire Expert....so what do I know?
I could see its use...games...have your friends bring their computers over to your house for a good old game of UT or Quake or summin. Or do some 3d renderiung on the fly...you could find summin.
Who fragged me this time? Oh its that damn Blake guy...anyone know how to get past Blake on UT?
WYF? "I come from a different time and a different ethic" WTF???? This kid is younger than me. And that ain't saying much. I have been round long enough that I used to hang out in IRC channels when only the 31337 were on. But everyone cool has since left...or so I thought. WTF?
lots of people are engineers at IBM...does this mean anything?
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These companies cannot deny the Open Source movement is getting strong. It will be interesting whether they choose to deny the Open Source community or not. I know my roommate who works for a local consulting firm that has a couple deals with DSL providers where they install DSL in an office and do routing via an OpenBSD box. they'd never get those modems for this reason. It will be interesting if they don't open source them. I can't see them gaining a great deal of support from small business who rely on things like BSD to do IP forwarding.
I'll tell ya...I lost a shit load...I was hoping VA Linux would do what Redhat did at first and I had bought them at 30 originally....then I also lost a lot on Redhat, Caldera, and lately Corel (that was a horrible investment)..
But..I don't think we need everyone to sit here and bitch about how the Nasdaq went down 354 pts and the whole market now blows ass. If you are an investor then you know it happened to all the stocks...not just the Linux ones. Read up on it. The correct headline is...Open Source software based companies took a hit as did the rest of the market. BFD.
First...I should say I know nothing about gaming really...
But..is it possible that the hard drive could not only be used for online access...but for larger games and FMVs...throw a SCSI card in there and a nice 10000 RPM hard drive and all the sudden you could quickly take a compressed video and use the hard drive to store it temporarily. It seems like a way to avoid running out of space..even though I know they are like DVD size...but..hey...my copy of Goodfellas is 2 sided...as many other DVDs are...so this could be a good way to help with large games?
Have Rob post a EVERYONE DOWNLOAD THIS FILE PLEASE new story for a large file on a site.
but...seriously...to stop DDOS's wouldn't you need to get every bass ackwards educational network to update their stuff. And how often does that happen? I know my college's sysadmins suck.
In my opinion...the way these things often work...
1) People buy LinDVD... 2) People realize this a good thing and that it should be Open source. Otherwise they see the usefulness moreso than they do now. 3)People then support open source DVD projects.
And we all know that the more support the better the project goes. But see...I beleive that a lot of Linux users don't even bother having DVD-Roms while there is no way to play the DVDs. I never have bothered purchasing one. So, if this product came out and was relatively inexpensive I might buy a DVD player....spurring on to supporting the Open Source DVD software..because it should be free. that is what I believe. Hell..I might even try to get the guys at work into it...and I work with some pretty damn good programmers now. Pretty soon...it spreads like wildfire. And boom...it can work.
I guess the assumption that I make is that people will see LinDVD and support an open source similiar project. I guess thats how I work so I assume others do the same. I think Open source DVD would be cool right now...but its not something I am really into. However...if I used a program that wasn't open source regularly...I would be into finding an Open Source solution.
You see Linux/OSS as a product(s), whereas he and many others see it as a philosophy that has helped to produce some great software in a way that gives people more freedom rather than seeking to take away people's rights. Coming from that point of view, it's morally indefensible to take a course of action that reinforces the control of an industry group that seeks to take away the rights that OSS/free software propronents seeks to protect. Since you don't seem to hold those same beliefs, it's not a moral issue for you since, as you said, you just want to see more software out there for Linux.
Thanks for telling me what I think and believe. Wake up when you get a clue. you don't know me..you may know someone like me...but thats doesn't mean anything
I understand what you are saying. I am just not naive enough to believe that everything can make huge leaps and bounds. I take things in stride. and as I see it bringing DVD to Linux is one step towards the ultimate goal....free open source DVD players...I don't see it as a step back. I am sorry if we don't see the fututre in the same way...but that doesn't mean I don't understand or hold the same values that OSS/free software people do. So, I will ignore your assumptions...but thanks.
My major contention is that Linux distributions and services are gaining a lot of ground right now. And those distributions and services are bringing the OSS movement with it. I do NOT believe that Linux is the only player out there. I just believe Linux is opening the world's eyes to things other than Windows and Mac...and a lot of that has come about thanks to the wall street fellows. As for your scenario...
1. Adoption of LinDVD kills open source DVD development due to lack of interest and the fact that people don't want to take on scary lawyers to work on an open source product That doesn't happen. VMWare is an awesome product..I bought it..use it..and so do many others. Now...has FMWare died because of it?
2. The MPAA decides to form a trust with Microsoft and Apple, and eliminate the license for LinDVD. IF this happened the MPAA would lose most of their ground in law suits. This would be a stupid stupid move for them and they would not be able to easily win a law suit against an open source DVD package.
3. Linux is again left without a DVD player and no open source alternative. And ya know what would happen if this happened? another open source project would come about. that is one of the beautiful things behind the open source movement. its everyone working together. How many hurdles have been dodges already? This would be another set back...yes...but I doubt this will happen.
----- I don't ask you to agree...just think about it all.
You have it right and wrong as I see it. On the one hand supporting this is supporting the MPAA. On the other hand supporting this is supporting Linux. A DVD player is much needed in the community for Linux to gain more momentum. If you don't support it you don't support something in the linux community and people (the dumb bandwagon stock market people) start to wonder why a unique product like a Linux DVD player fails...and then boom you have them pulling money out of many Linux products. How does that work to the Linux community's advantage.
So choose your battles:
If you are trying to win a OS battle then support LinDVD.
If you are trying to win the MPAA battle, which is much smaller in comparison, then you choose not to support it.
What I am going to do? Support LinDVD but also support OpenDVD and those trying to bring it free. My concern is bringing more open source to the public first...and a DVD player is a good step.
Any decent web admin has seen or looked at IBM's websphere package. I think between this and the Websphere package...IBM has a good focus on where they want to go. And they are taking the Linux route. I say more power to big blue. -- Seen Pirates of Silicon Valley? Does Jobs really hate IBM that much??
I think that if it gets to the point where this goes crazy...the comp. geeks will unite to use a different protocol or something. kinda the evolution of the net. more regulation just causes more underground. more underground...means more people joining in. and the laws will be realized as stupid. kinda like prohibition...they tried it...and people went underground soo much the underground was too big to cover. so they gave up realizing it was stupid. --- my analysis of history can suck. so don't kill me too bad. just my $.02
If I tell someone that they are an asshole...and can prove it in court...can I post it on my web page? What if I include pictures of the people and not names?
Here is the link The page is half in German and the rest in English. It tells you how to do mods (playstation modchip like) to avoid region problems and whatnot.
Just looking in the last day...he posted one article at 1:22 AM and the next morning one at 8:42 AM Thats more than 8 hrs of possible sleep time...I wish I had that. don't you look at/. every night right before you go to sleep and every morning before you take a piss?;-)
One of the things I love about my setup is I have 3 buttons....highlight and click a button...works in 90% of the apps...go spend the $25 for a nice logitech 3 button and your ctrl-c ctrl-v problem is solved.
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Ya know...I don't actually have a windows partition...hence the reason I only named Quake and UT. But I will say that with my glide drivers my Voodoo3 card works pretty damn spiffy. hey...and any game that has Tux on the back (check out the back of any UT box) is damn cool with me.
Getting back to your M$ babble..I thought Win2k had no DirectX now and none planned in the future....But I am no Mindsweeper Champion and Solitaire Expert....so what do I know?
I could see its use...games...have your friends bring their computers over to your house for a good old game of UT or Quake or summin. Or do some 3d renderiung on the fly...you could find summin.
Who fragged me this time? Oh its that damn Blake guy...anyone know how to get past Blake on UT?
WYF? "I come from a different time and a different ethic" WTF???? This kid is younger than me. And that ain't saying much. I have been round long enough that I used to hang out in IRC channels when only the 31337 were on. But everyone cool has since left...or so I thought. WTF?
lots of people are engineers at IBM...does this mean anything?
These companies cannot deny the Open Source movement is getting strong. It will be interesting whether they choose to deny the Open Source community or not. I know my roommate who works for a local consulting firm that has a couple deals with DSL providers where they install DSL in an office and do routing via an OpenBSD box. they'd never get those modems for this reason. It will be interesting if they don't open source them. I can't see them gaining a great deal of support from small business who rely on things like BSD to do IP forwarding.
I'll tell ya...I lost a shit load...I was hoping VA Linux would do what Redhat did at first and I had bought them at 30 originally....then I also lost a lot on Redhat, Caldera, and lately Corel (that was a horrible investment)..
But..I don't think we need everyone to sit here and bitch about how the Nasdaq went down 354 pts and the whole market now blows ass. If you are an investor then you know it happened to all the stocks...not just the Linux ones. Read up on it. The correct headline is...Open Source software based companies took a hit as did the rest of the market. BFD.
thats funnyI always went here or here for Enlightenment.
Isn't this another step to the the beginned realties of the evil technologies found in such movies as the Matrix...or Terminator for that matter?
All i know is I have been following white rabbits since I saw Alice in Wonderland...so I am good to go!
First...I should say I know nothing about gaming really...
But..is it possible that the hard drive could not only be used for online access...but for larger games and FMVs...throw a SCSI card in there and a nice 10000 RPM hard drive and all the sudden you could quickly take a compressed video and use the hard drive to store it temporarily. It seems like a way to avoid running out of space..even though I know they are like DVD size...but..hey...my copy of Goodfellas is 2 sided...as many other DVDs are...so this could be a good way to help with large games?
Have Rob post a EVERYONE DOWNLOAD THIS FILE PLEASE new story for a large file on a site.
but...seriously...to stop DDOS's wouldn't you need to get every bass ackwards educational network to update their stuff. And how often does that happen? I know my college's sysadmins suck.
In my opinion...the way these things often work...
1) People buy LinDVD...
2) People realize this a good thing and that it should be Open source. Otherwise they see the usefulness moreso than they do now.
3)People then support open source DVD projects.
And we all know that the more support the better the project goes. But see...I beleive that a lot of Linux users don't even bother having DVD-Roms while there is no way to play the DVDs. I never have bothered purchasing one. So, if this product came out and was relatively inexpensive I might buy a DVD player....spurring on to supporting the Open Source DVD software..because it should be free. that is what I believe. Hell..I might even try to get the guys at work into it...and I work with some pretty damn good programmers now. Pretty soon...it spreads like wildfire. And boom...it can work.
I guess the assumption that I make is that people will see LinDVD and support an open source similiar project. I guess thats how I work so I assume others do the same. I think Open source DVD would be cool right now...but its not something I am really into. However...if I used a program that wasn't open source regularly...I would be into finding an Open Source solution.
You see Linux/OSS as a product(s), whereas he and many others see it as a philosophy that has helped to produce some great software in a way that gives people more freedom rather than seeking to take away people's rights. Coming from that point of view, it's morally indefensible to take a course of action that reinforces the control of an industry group that seeks to take away the rights that OSS/free software propronents seeks to protect. Since you don't seem to hold those same beliefs, it's not a moral issue for you since, as you said, you just want to see more software out there for Linux.
Thanks for telling me what I think and believe. Wake up when you get a clue. you don't know me..you may know someone like me...but thats doesn't mean anything
I understand what you are saying. I am just not naive enough to believe that everything can make huge leaps and bounds. I take things in stride. and as I see it bringing DVD to Linux is one step towards the ultimate goal....free open source DVD players...I don't see it as a step back. I am sorry if we don't see the fututre in the same way...but that doesn't mean I don't understand or hold the same values that OSS/free software people do. So, I will ignore your assumptions...but thanks.
My major contention is that Linux distributions and services are gaining a lot of ground right now. And those distributions and services are bringing the OSS movement with it. I do NOT believe that Linux is the only player out there. I just believe Linux is opening the world's eyes to things other than Windows and Mac...and a lot of that has come about thanks to the wall street fellows. As for your scenario...
1. Adoption of LinDVD kills open source DVD development due to lack of interest and the fact that people don't want to take on scary lawyers to work on an open source product
That doesn't happen. VMWare is an awesome product..I bought it..use it..and so do many others. Now...has FMWare died because of it?
2. The MPAA decides to form a trust with Microsoft and Apple, and eliminate the license for LinDVD.
IF this happened the MPAA would lose most of their ground in law suits. This would be a stupid stupid move for them and they would not be able to easily win a law suit against an open source DVD package.
3. Linux is again left without a DVD player and no open source alternative.
And ya know what would happen if this happened? another open source project would come about. that is one of the beautiful things behind the open source movement. its everyone working together. How many hurdles have been dodges already? This would be another set back...yes...but I doubt this will happen.
-----
I don't ask you to agree...just think about it all.
You have it right and wrong as I see it. On the one hand supporting this is supporting the MPAA. On the other hand supporting this is supporting Linux. A DVD player is much needed in the community for Linux to gain more momentum. If you don't support it you don't support something in the linux community and people (the dumb bandwagon stock market people) start to wonder why a unique product like a Linux DVD player fails...and then boom you have them pulling money out of many Linux products. How does that work to the Linux community's advantage.
So choose your battles:
If you are trying to win a OS battle then support LinDVD.
If you are trying to win the MPAA battle, which is much smaller in comparison, then you choose not to support it.
What I am going to do? Support LinDVD but also support OpenDVD and those trying to bring it free. My concern is bringing more open source to the public first...and a DVD player is a good step.
--just my $.02
Any decent web admin has seen or looked at IBM's websphere package. I think between this and the Websphere package...IBM has a good focus on where they want to go. And they are taking the Linux route. I say more power to big blue. -- Seen Pirates of Silicon Valley? Does Jobs really hate IBM that much??
I think that if it gets to the point where this goes crazy...the comp. geeks will unite to use a different protocol or something. kinda the evolution of the net. more regulation just causes more underground. more underground...means more people joining in. and the laws will be realized as stupid. kinda like prohibition...they tried it...and people went underground soo much the underground was too big to cover. so they gave up realizing it was stupid. --- my analysis of history can suck. so don't kill me too bad. just my $.02
What goes around comes around. The RIAA just stepped in it a lil too deep.
someone has to try to get the geek voice heard. My thanks and I assume many others go out to you!
If I tell someone that they are an asshole...and can prove it in court...can I post it on my web page? What if I include pictures of the people and not names?
root=power on every machine.
Check out these sites for more info on quantum computing
Qubit.org
Quantum computing and information at IBM
Here is the link The page is half in German and the rest in English. It tells you how to do mods (playstation modchip like) to avoid region problems and whatnot.
my bad...I can't add or subtract...and I forgot to use a calculator...that should be 7 hrs
Just looking in the last day...he posted one article at 1:22 AM and the next morning one at 8:42 AM Thats more than 8 hrs of possible sleep time...I wish I had that. don't you look at /. every night right before you go to sleep and every morning before you take a piss? ;-)
CTRL-C CTRL-V????
One of the things I love about my setup is I have 3 buttons....highlight and click a button...works in 90% of the apps...go spend the $25 for a nice logitech 3 button and your ctrl-c ctrl-v problem is solved.